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HipsterTenZero, do games w The Outer Worlds: Base Game | Free on Epic Game
@HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone avatar

to clarify, this is the Corporate Hellscape in Space rpg “Outer WORLDS”, not the comfy mystery game (with existential dread elements) “Outer WILDS”.

ekZepp,
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, i also mistake them the first time.

retrieval4558,

This is the reason I own it already

dom,

Man. Such a shame those games came out at the same time with effectively the same name

joe_cool,

Outer Wilds is probably older. There was a prototype in 2012 for the guy’s master’s thesis: www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2AIOT24MWk

And I remember playing a beta version 3 years before release or so with a few less planets and much more primitive graphics.

Tier1BuildABear,
@Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world avatar

Haven’t tried worlds yet but wilds is a masterpiece that blew my mind and ruined other games for me. Might be my top game of all time.

lobut,

I just started (Outer Wilds) the other day. Not sure what I’m doing, lol. I died the first three times by not wearing a suit. I bought it purely on the recommendation on another Lemming (Lemmy user?) and they said just get into it and don’t look into anything else. Looking forward to just trying things on my next run.

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

You lucky bastard (a lot of people wish they can experience the game for the first time again). Have fun!

Thassodar,

Good luck, I also bought it on recommendation and did not enjoy it. If you’re curious why let me know, I don’t want to shape your opinion on the game with my opinions.

Smokeless7048,

Yea, I watched a streamer play it (RT GAMES) and it’s the only game of his I wished I never watched, and just played myself

Tier1BuildABear,
@Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world avatar

I had a few things spoiled for me unfortunately, but the spoiler was so cool it prompted me to try the game, so net win? Lol, I’m jealous you get to go in blind! Can’t wait till I have Alzheimer’s and I can replay it for the first time. It’s definitely a game that encourages you to just try things to see what happens, I love it :)

pwalker,

Thx for the hint, it’s on Steam x-mas sale btw., including the DLC

TheActualDevil,

It also certainly doesn’t help me remembering which is which when in Outer WILDS you explore different worlds and in Outer WORLDS the tutorial area is kind of an overgrown wilds in which you explore very few worlds. When I have to talk about either one of them I just say “You know, the one with the crazy gravity physics and planets” or “You know, the one that’s basically just Firefly the video game.”

CaptainBasculin, do gaming w Git gud

git: ‘gud’ is not a git command. See ‘git -help’.

Norgur,

Why is this not an easter egg at this point?

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Because then it will be lame after a decade.

I cringe at all the Easter eggs and In-jokes of the 80s-90s.

odelik,

Which ones do you cringe at?

I find most of them amusing and witty. Especially things like WINE’s name being a recursion joke.

WINE Is Not an Emulator

onion,
hex,

YAML: Yaml Aint a Markup Language
PHP: PHP: Hypertext Processor

Trashcan,

Fyi - “gud” equals god in Norwegian.

So its even more potent 😄

TeoTwawki,
@TeoTwawki@lemmy.world avatar

so would it be like the god of gits or a god that is a git? asking for a friend dumb git

ech, do gaming w Never understood this

Turns out every game sounds bad if you purposefully describe it badly.

agressivelyPassive,

I mean, this is the essence of 95% of GTA missions. Just like 95% of RPG missions are a variation of clear dungeon, kill boss, retrieve item.

Lmaydev,

The key is making the dungeon/boss fun. The quests are just to lead you through the content.

If you don’t like fighting through dungeons and fighting bosses then the game may not be for you.

Like with GTA getting to places needs to be enjoyable.

ech,

And taking out 99% of the rest of the game built around the basic skeleton structure makes it sound bleak and boring.

PeriodicallyPedantic,

“clear dungeons, kill boss, retrieve item” is just “go from a to b, kill x at b, go from b to c”

fidodo,

Platformers are just running and jumping towards the right and repeating.

Alexstarfire,

Old school ones. Anything half modern lets you go left as well.

fidodo,

But the goal is always to the right (counting metroidvanias as their own genre)

Alexstarfire,

Not really. Super Meat Boy is a platformer and definitely isn’t always to the right.

DacoTaco,
@DacoTaco@lemmy.world avatar

Same thing with i want to be that guy

funkless_eck,

super metroid final boss is left

Honytawk,

Super Mario’s boss is right.

Both sides are equally bad.

0ops,

🤯

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Start game
Make number go up
Become better at making number go up
Make number go up more

Somehow almost every game ever made

MonkderZweite,

xkcd.com/722/

Hmm, reminds me of Hollywood hackers.

conno02, do gaming w RPG Maker on the Unity debacle
@conno02@lemmy.world avatar

its worth noting that this is the twitter account for the RPGMaker forums-- not the official RPGMaker iirc

DarkThoughts,

And the latest version is Unity based. Also, I'd say the only thing that prevents Enterbrain to do a similar move, is simply that they don't even have nearly the same significance & reach as Unity. RPG Maker always was a niche product, even if it a popular one at that. But you don't really see big commercial game releases that are based on it like you do with Unity.

We'll have to see how this Unity thing plays out, but if this isn't going to be the engine's downfall, then it will become a new norm for others to follow.

atocci,

Wasn't Undertale built in RPG Maker?

angstylittlecatboy,

No, GameMaker Studio. That engine had it’s own controversy over moving to a subscription model, but nothing as egregious as Unity.

dalekcaan,

That’s a shame. I remember messing around with GameMaker back in the day. It was a great way for a total beginner to make something playable.

Asudox, do games w Sony cancelled the PSN account linking requirement for Helldivers 2
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

“We’re still learning what is best for PC players” Well PlayStation staff member, it definitely isn’t having people create another account when they already have a Steam account.

best_username_ever,

Also gaming on a PC is 40 years old, what do they still have to learn?

mean_bean279,

Maybe a company that has (mostly) made consoles isn’t exactly playing games or has people on staff on the executive level that play(ed) on a PC. I’m 30 and outside of a brief time I tried to play on a PC I’ve pretty much been console my entire life. My first gaming experiences were all on console. It’s completely logical for a company to make a move like this when they have specialized in one area for a time.

LunarLoony,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It’s called market research.

Glide,

How much less bullshit PC players are willing to put up with compared to their console counterparts, apparently.

aksdb,

Uhhhh, people install shit like Vanguard just so that they can keep having their mother insulted in the ingame chat.

And many people put up with cascades of different lauchers (and accounts).

So I am glad that there was some push back this time, but it’s not like there would be some sane baseline of PC players in that regard.

xep,

It's almost as if cheaters ruin hyper competitive games like Valorant. How dare they try to keep the game free from cheaters. The nerve!

OsrsNeedsF2P,

As someone who rehosts an old game after the official servers shutdown, we have a dedicated servers for cheating and real moderators for the non-cheat ones. It works great but big corps don’t way to pay for mods.

I also wonder why big companies don’t do it to train ML algorithms on the cheat server data too…

PlexSheep,

Besides that, statistics is an unbeatable tool against cheaters.

aksdb,

Only if you want to cap the skill limit. Otherwise you would typically have a hand full of players that are genuinely just good or rather far outside the normal skill range. I guess with a lot of data collection one might be able to determine if there was some kind of natual progress or sudden skill jumps, but all in all it could weed out legitimate players.

PlexSheep,

You can detect the hit ratio for shooters and win rates for games with matchmaking, those are really good indicators for cheating.

Sonotsugipaa,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Agreed. For detecting cheaters, statistics work like a Dream

nekusoul,
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

I’d have a bit more symphaty if they at least tried to do the bare minimum before choosing the nuclear option.

Most notably, the PVE queues in LoL were infested with bots for years and you could tell them apart from real players before they even made their first move. Often times you’d be the only human player. If stuff like that wasn’t caught, I have serious doubts about their previous efforts to catch “real” cheaters.

aksdb,

Also there could (and should?) be “simply” two launch options. One with “hardcore anti cheat” and one with some much simpler anti-cheat. Then a lobby option what you want to allow. You want to play competitive/league/whatever? Then require the hardcore anti-cheat. Otherwise: why bother.

nekusoul,
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

Yup. At the very least, they shouldn’t have made it a requirement for TFT. If it were possible to cheat there that’d be more of a game design problem anyway.

Allero,

Honestly I’d rather have a cheater in my lobby than Riot Games deep into the sections of my PC they should never have accessed.

With that said, I do not play Valorant for this reason (and also because it would require me to dualboot since Vanguard cannot be ported on Linux, lol)

Jako301,

I’d be somewhat ok with Kernel anticheat if they would work, but the simple truth is that they do nothing of value. COD has Kernel anticheat with Riccochet and is flooded with cheaters. Valorant has only slightly less cause riot updates Vanguard more often.

But guess what, it usually takes 1-2 days for new cheats to reach the relevant forums, maybe a few days more until they are more widely aviable. At most cheaters have to spend another 5€ every 6 months, but that’s it. They don’t care, the amount of money spent on accounts every other month is already way higher.

The only two things anticheat like vanguard protects you from is script kiddies that google “valorant cheat .exe” and Linux only players. And the former could just as well be filtered out without Kernel level.

Melvin_Ferd, (edited )

Imagine doing this for all kinds of stuff like ads, over priced groceries, other games that required needless launchers.

Just surprising how this works so often and every time there are still people trying to convince everyone to just move on.

barsquid,

If people were capable of choosing long over short term value then the market might be working instead of the shitshow it is right now. IDGI either.

kakes,

“You guys actually want to play these things? Yeeesh.”

littlebluespark,
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

It’s all a fucking smokescreen. Man, people just eat that shit up. Every time. It’s almost like the game is saturated in satire and we’re spooning it down ourselves.

Oh, wait. fuck.

BruceTwarzen,

They are used to playstation players who buy a console for twice the price it's worth through discord bots. I don't think they even know what a backlash is

programmer_belch,
@programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Nowadays a console is just a locked down, less expensive pc. I think buying the components of a ps5 and assembling the pc is more expensive than just buying a console and liberating it, which is what I would do if I was to ever buy one.

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

which is why the steam deck was such a breath of fresh air, it’s what consoles SHOULD be.

A computer built primarily for gaming, sold at a reasonable price, that merrily lets you switch to desktop mode and launch excel for some office work if you want to.

mortemtyrannis,

They are learning what level of bullshit PC gamers will tolerate.

yamanii, do games w Sony cancelled the PSN account linking requirement for Helldivers 2
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Just another nail to the bootlicker’s coffin of “review bombing does nothing”.

Surreal,

Review bombing and mass refunding too. Hit them where it hurts

FeelzGoodMan420,

God I hate bootlickers. Fuck em.

Atomic, do games w Noooooo you can't make a microtransactions free game and finished too 😭😭😭

Why are they getting so much attention for it?

Nintendo does the same with BoTW and ToTK. Long dev cycles that releases a functional game without micro-transactions.

FromSoft does the same with most of their games. Where people actually beg them to release DLCs.

But no… it’s Larion they seem to go after.

Nintendo is huge. FromSoft has their own cult. But Larion? What’s can they blame there? Nothing. Most big studios that bitch about this is larger than Larion. Maybe because they are more scared that if Larion can do it. There’s no excuse anymore.

CaptPretentious,

I think it’s due to the little guy making a huge wave that other people don’t feel they’re “allowed” to make. These other devs work on “AAA” companies working on big name titles from studios everyone has heard of so. But now a small, indie studio comes along with a grand slam and they don’t like it kind of makes them look bad by comparison. Showing you can release a big complex game without it being an absolute buggy mess, doesn’t need microtransactions, doesn’t need to sell millions of copies to be considered a success, and isn’t just a copy paste of the previous game with a handful of modifications made to slap a new “FOR SALE” label on it…

Goronmon,

But now a small, indie studio comes along with a grand slam and they don’t like it kind of makes them look bad by comparison.

Larian is similar in size, if not significantly larger, than Bethesda when they made Skyrim.

Gogogadget,

Less established though. I'd say that Larian wasn't on most gamers' radar until Divinity Orginal Sin 2.

Misconduct,

Even then I feel like they were too underrated for their obvious potential. I’m glad the studio is fully in the spotlight now. With so many shitty companies out there it feels like they earned and deserve it. Now we just have to hope they don’t fall to temptation and turn to crap like so many others

Syo,
@Syo@kbin.social avatar

"AAA" in price tag only.

(Content may vary. Please purchase premium battle pass to see more details.)

Atomic,

You’re not referring to Larion as a small indie studio right? They are not a small indie studio.

AdmiralShat,

I personally think this is because gaming journalism isn’t real journalism. They don’t actually care, they just want clicks and perceived relevancy when people repost their tweets to reddit

Asafum,

“They don’t actually care, they just want clicks and perceived relevancy when people repost their tweets to reddit”

Kinda sounds like real media to me then lol they all suck if they’re major corporate media.

pomodoro_longbreak,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

A lot of journalists do care, but they also have a job to do and a boss that tells them which articles to write.

Like I don’t care about whatever business my company is competing in, but I’ll keep working for them because they pay me.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

but I’ll keep working for them because they pay me.

That’s just it, you can move to a different company that has a better working situation in environment. You just have to be a brave enough to fight the inertia that keeps you where you’re at.

And in fact, if you want your salary to steadily increase over your career, you’re supposed to move from company to company every couple of years.

pomodoro_longbreak,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah I’m thankful to have got that advice pretty early in my career. Generally get itchy feet around 3 years now.

FeelsGouda, (edited )

I think the “problem” for those people is that the game broke out of its bubble. nintendo, from soft and also larion up until now all had their own bubble of fans. Larion broke that mold and even people who have nothing to do with the genre celebrate it.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Critical mass has been achieved.

assassin_aragorn,

There was plenty of distaste for Elden Ring when it came out – devs at Ubisoft I believe ridiculed how the UI wasn’t informative and such.

I think AAA studios are terrified because they’re seeing just how much consumers value quality over quantity and MTX bullshit. Games that should be in self contained bubbles are now hitting mainstream and becoming absurdly popular.

CheezyWeezle,

Lmao Ubisoft of all folks should shut the fuck up about UI, they are literally the source of the meme about cluttered and overly complicated UI. If Ubisoft is complaining about a UI I have to automatically assume it is a good UI.

Also, if AAA developers have been paying attention for the last decade, they would know that consumers have valued quality and shown disdain for MTX since MTX started becoming pervasive. MTX overall can generate a lot of revenue, but it isnt sustainable, hence why there is always some sort of FOMO characteristic included with the MTX system, making things limited time and constantly shovelling low effort “new content” to fill out the MTX system.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

They’ve been working for almost a generation now on changing the mindset of gamers as to what they should expect from a game, and here comes a really good game from a little known studio doing exactly what games used to expect before the mind changing was attempted.

Blackmist,

Most of the Sony exclusives are the same. God of War, Spiderman, Ghost of Tsushima.

Just solid AAA single player games, no nickel and dime bullshit.

Every F2P model is predatory as fuck, and relies on taking advantage of whales over a prolonged period.

Not_Alec_Baldwin,

…but I paid full price for D4 and still got a half baked game with an invasive in-game shop.

GenericUsername28,

I’m as frustrated with D4 as the next guy, but I’d hardly call their in-game shop invasive. Their MTX has been minor and cosmetic thus far. There are far better examples including one within the Diablo universe.

Not_Alec_Baldwin,

The shop had an un-clearable red alert notification any time they released a new skin for your character chat.

The only way to clear it was to open the shop and scroll to find the new item and click on it, opening the store page. Then when you backed out it would go away.

You had to do this for every single item that was released.

Maybe I’m neurotic or autistic or OCD or all three but those stupid red alerts trigger me and I need to clear them all to keep playing the game.

I don’t even want the fucking store in my game. Give me an option to turn it off for fuck’s sake.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

While not exactly their in-game shop…

gamingideology.com/…/diablo-iv-unleashes-player-r…

Blackmist,

Not to victim blame, but if you looked at everything Blizzard have done over the last 10 years, and thought “maybe this one will be different” then perhaps the problem is you.

Not_Alec_Baldwin,

Not to X, but…

[Proceeds to X]

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

[Proceeds to X]

Sometimes, if the subject is important enough, you just have to X.

hglman,

Sure but don’t lead by saying you are not going to do x.

ruckblack,

I don’t think this comment really deserved this discourse, it seems pretty clearly tongue in cheek to me.

Not everything needs to be so dire.

Wilibus,

Don’t forget the battle passes.

Not_Alec_Baldwin,

Ironically I’m less concerned with battle passes as long as they don’t sell power. The actual mtx itself doesn’t bother me, I’ve easily spent hundreds in path of exile. But I prefer to enjoy the game first, and then at some point decide that I want to support the devs, and then maybe I buy something.

Wilibus,

Yeah it blows my mind how much I’ve spent on league supporter kits as well. Not sure if it is because I enjoy the game or I respect the business model.

I’m not against battle passes, but there are plenty of examples of how they fall under the predatory monetization category. Not selling power is hardly a justification that they aren’t unethical.

Hudell,

I realized I had overdone it when two weeks in they were going to send me a free hoodie shipped from a different continent.

At least I ran out of things to buy there.

msage,

Dota 2 did it really well, it was and still is an amazing game, and you couldn’t pay to get any gameplay advantage.

I sank a lot of money into it just to support such system.

bonfire921,

I agree with you, thing is: Nintendo produces Nintendo exclusives, so it doesn’t affect the gaming space as much as other games might

CoolBeance, (edited )

The lesson here is you can trust most big Japanese publishers/developers and it’s the opposite for American/European ones. Christ, Death Stranding was almost ruined by all the “subtle” product placements they put

chickenwing,

Kojima got away with his product placement in mgs3 because nobody in the west knew calorie mate was a real product lol.

mojo, (edited ) do games w Madden should not be 70$

then don’t buy it

people keep buying it, so why wouldn’t they raise the price?

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Typical moron gamer moment, though: Bitch about price, buy it anyway, leave a bad review at 500 hours played, and repeat next year.

BilboBargains,

They named this pathology The Maddening.

twistedtxb,
@twistedtxb@lemmy.ca avatar

Now that FIFA’s gone, EA needs another cash cow.

lud,

Fifa isn’t gone, only the FIFA in-game branding is gone. It’s just called FC24 instead of FIFA 24.

And most of the world that plays FIFA isn’t going to play an American football game. American football is completely different and not relatable to pretty much anyone except those from USA (or maybe Canada, dunno).

recursive_recursion, do games w This should be illegal
@recursive_recursion@programming.dev avatar

oh god this reminds me of Japanese man who married Hatsune Miku in hologram form can no longer speak to his wife of four years.

“The doting husband has gained thousands of followers on Instagram by sharing insights into his life with Miku, but things took an unexpected turn during the pandemic when Gatebox announced it was discontinuing its service for Miku.”

this is why I have trust issues with proprietary software

Surreal,

If that man harnesses the power of LLM like Chat GPT, he can continue talking with his wife

ChaoticNeutralCzech,

Until ChatGPT is shut down. Have control over your waifus, people!

smashboy,

Well, Llama 2 then.

magikmw,

At least the general idea behind language models isn’t proprietary and fairly well available in ooen source. Sure, GPT is better, but it could change.

GhostMatter,

Let’s take back the means of waifus!

Drusenija,

One could say you must seize the means of reproduction.

eestileib,

Representative Boebert has been a commie all along! 🤯

Honytawk,

Don’t think reproduction has anything to do with this.

recursive_recursion, (edited )
@recursive_recursion@programming.dev avatar

hmm not sure if that would work as the model that he was using would be different from what’s available so he’d probably notice some differences which might cause a mix of uncanny valley and surrealism/suspension of disbelief where the two are noticably not the same

plus using a chat-only model would be real tragic as it’s a significant downgrade from what they already had

his story actually feels like a Romeo and Juliet situation

brsrklf,

Doesn’t even take a change of service provider to get there.

Replika had what had very obviously become a virtual mate service too, until they decided “love” wasn’t part of their system anymore. Probably because it looked bad for investors, as happened for a lot of AI-based services people used for smut.

So a bunch of lonely people had their “virtual companion” suddenly lobotomized, and there’s nothing they could do about it.

SCB,

I always thought replika was a sex chatbot? Is/was it “more” than that?

brsrklf,

It’s… complicated.

At first the idea was it’d be training an actual “replica” of yourself, that could reflect your own personality. Then when they realized their was a demand for companionship they converted it into virtual friend. Then of course there was a demand for “more than friends”, and yeah, they made it possible to create a custom mate for a while.

Then suddenly it became a problem for them to be seen as a light porn generator. Probably because investors don’t want to touch that, or maybe because of a terms of servce change with their AI service provider.

At that point they started to censor lewd interactions and pretend replika was never supposed to be more than a friendly bot you can talk to. Which is, depending on how you interpret what services they proposed and how they advertized them until then, kind of a blatant lie.

Surreal, (edited )

LLM is capable of role-playing, character.ai for example can get into the role of any character after being trained. The sound is just text-to-speech, character.ai already includes that, though if a realistic voice is desired, it would need to be generated by a more sophisticated method, which is already being done. Example: Neuro-sama, ElevenLabs

FrostbyteIX,

Geez…that guy really needs to get laid by a Miku Robot.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Next thing you know, he doesn’t read the fine print, ther “brain” is internet connected and, sooner or later, he won’t have a Miku talking back to him again

Agent641,

“Megacorp killed my cyberwife” Is a heck of an vigilante origin story

CaptObvious,

I’d read it! :D

brsrklf,

Or, you know, supervillain.

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

“Ultraweeb’s Revenge: Coming this Fall!”

Kolanaki, do games w What game fits this?
!deleted6508 avatar

Factorio.

Bougie_Birdie,
@Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The factory must grow!

kakes,

Playing my first non-vanilla run with Krastorio right now, and it feels like I’m playing a whole new game. I can basically kiss my life goodbye… again.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

I've got 1500 hours on unmodified Factorio. If I installed mods I probably would waste away in front of my screen.

Which would be bad because then the factory would stop growing.

50MYT,

Install the Bob Angels suite of mods.

It’s the same game, just more ores, liquids, and things to do.

Takes about 120 hours to finish a run through.

kakes,

I’ve heard this pack can be overly complex, but I know one day I’ll give into it and never be seen again.

50MYT,

It’s not really.

Start with just Bob’s mods suite then.

That alone just adds the extra ores, and not too much else. Really good introduction to an easier overhaul mod. Takes.about 60 hours to finish at a first go

ExceedinglyPanWoofer,

I’m trying to do space exploration and Jesus it has a hell of a curve, especially if you’re playing alone

kakes,

Yeah, I was tempted to try K2 + SE, but the last ounce of my sanity kicked in at the last second. It’s definitely next up, though.

exoplanetary,
@exoplanetary@lemmy.world avatar

Spent like 80 hours in the last two weeks playing Space Exploration. Send help

50MYT,

It took me 500 hours to finish that monster

ouch,

Can’t find this game. Is the name written correctly?

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Space Exploration in this case is a mod for Factorio

MonkderZweite,

Factorio going Stellaris?

bridge_too_close,
@bridge_too_close@kbin.social avatar

I'll call it a night in a few minutes. I need more iron...

Noodle07,

It’s always cracktorio

gmtom,

No factorio would be this except its a positive review.

edgemaster72, do games w Sony cancelled the PSN account linking requirement for Helldivers 2
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

We’re still learning what is best for PC players

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/7ab8e40f-3160-4605-939d-9134f41b97c2/scale-to-width/755

We’ll keep you updated on future plans

Behind the scenes coming up with the future plans:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/87/e6/b7/87e6b7f695dc805d19b1e7bc94e87dd4.png

Allero,

Yeah, like, you know what is best for PC players, it just doesn’t come together with financial interest :D

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

and this is why i wish people would make it profitable, fuck AAA titles, give your money to indies who respect the consumers and actually just want to make a fun game.

I wish game devs would found a union that helps developers fund and publish games with no profit incentive, it seems like such an obvious thing to do and has the potential to revolutionizing how people create and play games.

No longer would we be beholden to companies, no longer would developers have to compromise their works for profit, no longer would players have to tolerate predatory bullshit.
Just good games made by passionate people who are happy to have people enjoy their works while being able to afford to live on it.

Allero,

That’s what I normally do - pirate or ignore AAA’s, but always buy indies.

The problem with the union idea is that most games just won’t pay off huge investments, so there needs to be someone competent who filters out profitable games, and funds games based on expected returns…and at that point we get, essentially, a publisher company. Or maybe a cooperative. But barely a union.

samus12345, do gaming w Peak graphic design
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

“I can’t wait to see their next brilliant logo design!”

https://fontmeme.com/images/Wii-Logo.jpg

ಠ_ಠ

pacmondo,

But the “ii” part bows to you! Its revolutionary!

dis_honestfamiliar,

Oh I thought that was like “we” cuz you play alone most of the time.

edgemaster72,
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

Random Nintendo execs show up to your house unannounced.

“We would like to play”

You stare at them blankly for a beat then shut the door in their faces. This is your time away from the world and its demands. No one will take that away from you.

frezik,

Just wait until you see the sequel to this one.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar
Kiosade,

That whole era had really shitty design. “Sleek this, minimalist that. Only black/white/greys allowed”. Got old real fast.

JayDee,

My brain just did some work. Now I can’t unseen this as that manly handshake scene from Predator. The two 'i’s are the guys, and the ‘W’ is a zoom-in of their handshake.

FiniteBanjo, do games w Sony cancelled the PSN account linking requirement for Helldivers 2

The lack of humility in their statement makes me think they haven’t learned anything.

RampageDon,

Yea, this reads more like a sorry, this was too forced we will do something more subtle in the future. Not an actual apology.

FiniteBanjo,

They don’t even say sorry. They did not use the words Sorry, Mistake, Problem, Wrong, or Fault. They say the approximation of “We see you’re absolutely outraged. We’ve decided to change our decisions. We are always improving.”

intensely_human,

Yeah but the humility in their actions shows they did.

FiniteBanjo,

AFAIK the game is still banned in countries where you can’t get a PSN account and also it still ships with a rootkit, so…

Statick, (edited )

People were saying that might have been Valve just covering themselves from potential lawsuits. We’ll just have to see if it’s reverted.

Nope nevermind, I was hopeful it was good guy Steam but it was in fact Sony. Fuck Sony. Will never buy another Sony game.

wildcardology,

Valve should have done that from day 1.

djsoren19,

They haven’t. Ghosts of Tsushima’s PC release is going to require account-linking from day 1 for the online component. The only thing Sony has learned is that the shittiness has to be ready and working from the start.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Translated: Dear suckers who keep giving us money for half-finished products. We are sincerely sorry, sorry for getting caught. We thought we could squeeze through with this one, but apparently our PC fans are not as gullible as our console fans.

resetbypeer, do games w "PSN isn't supported in my country. What do I do?" Arrowhead CEO: "I don't know"

Sony just did a Unity here. How the hell can you ruin such a beloved game in a single cheer stupid move, for the purpose of just gathering data. It’s beyond me.

masterspace,

I feel like Sony did a Sony here.

I’m old enough to remember when Sony shipped 22 million malware infested CDs because they were worried about Napster.

mnemonicmonkeys,

Also earlier this year they stole purchased content from millions of their customers

DogWater,

Also they bait and switched everyone with the advertising for the last of us pt 2.

AusatKeyboardPremi,

I am unaware of this one. Can you share what is this about, or share the relevant search keywords?

DogWater, (edited )

Spoilers ahead for the game:

Yeah so if you look at the pre launch trailers

::: spoiler spoiler Joel is portrayed as being a part of the journey of the game. He dies in the first “chapter”. They went so far as to switch a character out for him to make it look like he would be alive for the game. And then they try to make you sympathetic to the person who killed him by making you play as them for half the game. :::

It makes my blood boil how bad pt 2 is after the first one is one of the best games ever.

AusatKeyboardPremi,

Yikes. I am yet to play the game but I knew Joel dies in the second one, as it almost felt like a setup for his death was built-in.

However, I wasn’t aware of Sony going to such lengths to misdirect the game’s players.

Thanks a lot for sharing the context.

P.S. you might want to fix the formatting for the spoilers as it is currently not hidden.

DogWater,

I tried my best. I can’t tell when it works

AusatKeyboardPremi,

It is working now. :-)

JackbyDev,

Your spoiler syntax is incorrect (or not working on Jerboa).

DogWater,

I clicked the formatting button on boost…dunno why it ain’t working. Thnx I’ll mess with it.

DogWater,

I dunno why it won’t work. I put the content between the tags and formatting with spaces and without. No dice

Silentiea,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

spoilerYou need to put the text after the two spoiler words, not between them, no? The first sets up the tag, the second is the name

Fancy words for fancy peopleLike so, non?

DogWater,

That’s not working on boost for me looking at it

Silentiea,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Boost isn’t parsing spoilers right now, but if you view the permalink on the website it should render

DogWater,

Oh okay gotcha

echodot,

Did that actually break computers? I remember hearing about it at the time but I also don’t remember having a problem. I didn’t think I took any real precautions either, I just carried on as per and nothing ever happened.

vox, (edited )
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

the starforce driver sometimes prevented some exotic cd drives from working or caused bsods while playing audio cds, but the cases were relatively rare

nvm i didn’t realize they were talking about a different kind of drm

chiliedogg,

Not just any old malware, but insecure rootkits that allowed ANYONE to have total control over the system with their own malware above the OS-level with no way to even know the malware was there.

CorrodedCranium, do gaming w Classic Microsoft
@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

I’m honestly surprised they’re still updating Java edition

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

That’s the version people actually play, and which has the furthest developed systems to do bigger stuff. Look up PaperMC, it enables some wild stuff for Minecraft multiplayer.

The server options available for multiplayer in Bedrock are truly pathetic in comparison.

CorrodedCranium,
@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

I know. I’ve seen a lot of videos on the differences between Java and Bedrock, how Bedrock came to be, modding on Java like Feed The Beast, and multiplayer servers like 2BT2 (for those that don’t know FitMC has some good vidoes on 2B2T; it’s a neat rabbit hole to go down if you want to kill sometime).

What I am saying is I am surprised that Microsoft is still updating Java when there’s so much money to be made nickle and diming players in Bedrock edition. Like paying for skins for example. It would definitely piss off a lot of the player base but I don’t know if it would cause them to lose money in the long run. I imagine a lot of casual players are content using Bedrock and unaware of why Java is important.

dustyData,

Minecraft is already on the way out of the Zeitgeist of cultural relevance. The minecraft audience is mostly nostalgic grown ups now. Bedrock is kept alive by parents trying to have quality time with their kids on a safer or easier to maintain server space. The truly passionate and obsessed users, doing crazy and innovative stuff to their servers are still on Java edition. Kill Java and you kill Minecraft for all practical intents and purposes.

Kids are playing roblox now anyways.

CorrodedCranium, (edited )
@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

I feel like Minecraft surges in popularity pretty regularly. As long as people continue streaming it and posting videos of it I think that’ll remain the same. I don’t know if someone who is looking for a taste of what they saw online will know the limitations of Bedrock. They might just pick it up because it’s available on whatever platform they use.

I suppose killing Java might put a stop to the content that is being created with Minecraft and that might cause it lose its relevance but I don’t know if a majority of content creators are using Java or Bedrock.

dustyData,

Streamers almost exclusively use Java. There are certain popular games and mods that are only possible and/or easier to setup on JE. Achievement Hunter was one of the rare channels that used the console version at first and even them changed to the JE eventually. But they are not relevant anymore, weren’t for some time before their closure. Hyper massive servers, custom maps, automated gamerules with scripts, most of those things that make Minecraft creative and interesting to watch exist only on the JE.

CorrodedCranium,
@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

Achievement Hunter is what made me wonder. I knew they used Java for Galacticraft but I thought they used Bedrock for pretty much everything else.

I also don’t know how popular streaming Bedrock multiplayer servers is. I think they are called Realms.

dustyData,

The service for JE is called Realms and for Bedrock it’s Realms Plus. Certain server side mods aren’t possible on bedrock.

Wooki,

Nah.

Distance horizons is amazing.

Never seen so much buzz thanks to distance horizons and now every shader is building in compatibility to make some truely stunning visuals. Let alone the insanely amazing mods packs and general content!

dustyData,

It’s funny you bring that up. Because it’s par for the course. Bedrock is the prettier Minecraft, but JE is the gameplay Minecraft. Flashy shaders and shitty LOD have their splash for a few days. But ultimately they are not what Minecraft is about. Same thing happened with ray tracing. People think they want to play with those things because they’re shiny, but then they realize their old hardware can’t run it without lag, so they go back to their obby maps and squid game servers that look like shit but run at 60fps and are actually fun.

Wooki,

I agree for shaders, but distant horizons brings a level of immersion i have no felt to the game in a long time. Add this with the mod packs and its so good! (Ages fan here)

Retrograde,
@Retrograde@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, I’m running high detail shaders and distant horizons and my game runs like butter, as does my partner’s who has a 2060 ti.

You’d be amazed how well fabric java Minecraft can run. For me there is zero point in even entertaining the idea of using bedrock.

I also run a java server with the geyser mod which means that bedrock players can play on it if they need to.

Java will always be the superior Minecraft version.

Jakeroxs,

I wonder how many times I’ve seen people say Minecraft is out of relevance and yet…

dustyData,

I didn’t say it is out of relevance. I said it is on its way out of cultural relevance. As in, it’s slowly dwindling over time. Nothing extremely popular disappears over night. It will take decades. And it’s not that I don’t like it, I bought Minecraft on alpha 1 and something. 14 years ago. Have played every single update until recently, and played almost everything it has to offer.

However much I love it, I can also recognize that it is no longer like the heyday of popularity around 2015, when the default YouTube page was plastered with Minecraft let’s plays, and the only non-Minecraft streamers on the newly minted Twitch brand were WoW players and speed runners. Kids are no longer making Minecraft fanfic comics, and there’s fewer Minecraft themed birthdays. Again, the average Minecraft player has a higher chance of having kids by now than being a kid themselves.

Telodzrum,

Kids are all playing Bedrock on their Switches and iPads. Microsoft is just passing the long game.

lazycouchpotato,
@lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world avatar

Java is quite popular online due to all the mods and the videos people upload to YouTube using those mods, but I believe in terms of number of users, Bedrock outscores it quite a bit. The barrier to entry is lower – $7 on iOS/Android and most people have phones.

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

actually bedrock servers are way more capable, bedrock has proper reconnect packets, custom ui frameworks (i.e. servers can do proper themed guis that look fucking awesome instead of relying on chests) and custom 3d models.

reddithalation,

which they sell to you through microtransactions

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

???
this has nothing to do with my comment

reddithalation,

I’m just saying that yes bedrock (and it’s server) may have better mod features, but the mods end up being sold on the minecraft marketplace or whatever anyway. Yes you can download and install mods for free, but I bet the majority of players just buy them.

vox, (edited )
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

I’m talking about features available to server software, not addons.

bedrock servers can use custom 3d models natively, build fully custom native uis (instead of relying on chests) and reconnect players to other servers without resorting to terrible hacks like on the java edition
also bedrock server software itself is objectively much more efficient, there’s no point of even comparing it to the java server software, even unofficial servers like papermc.

It’s the main reason why cubecraft’s CTF mode is severely limited on the java edition, they basically crippled it just to allow the server to keep up

yes, the marketplace sucks ass but my point still stands.

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

People already pirate Java to shit, if they made it unavailable than that immediately legitimizes all of it under the game preservation argument.

CorrodedCranium,
@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

Does FFA stand for free for all?

Omega_Haxors,

I used better language this time

interdimensionalmeme,

Any argument in favour of respecting the minecraft copyright went out the window wheb The Hated One sold out the playerbase to microsoft for two billions.

Yeah, open source it you FUCK !

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