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KoboldCoterie, do games w Recommendation engine: Downvote any game you've heard of before
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

In Grotto, you play the role of a soothsayer living in a cave who is occasionally visited by members of a tribal society living nearby. They come to you with problems, and they want you to present your opinion, but you can’t speak. You have access to constellations of stars, which each hold different meanings, and you must present your answers in the form of a single constellation, which the petitioners are left to interpret.

You’ll feel a bit of frustration as your intended message is missed completely in favor of something that the petitioner wanted to hear, and the same constellation might mean different things to different people, but that’s just part of the game. The story unfolds around you and its progression is communicated to you only through the explanations your petitioners give for their visit. Each is a uniquely unreliable narrator, so what you believe is for you to decide.

Two endings, and an interesting story with some occasionally unexpected consequences that might make you feel bad, so if a game giving you a case of the sads is unappealing, maybe take that into consideration.

match,
@match@pawb.social avatar

fantastic game by the makers of Laika, check out their whole ludography

JoMiran, do games w Fuck Ubisoft.
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar
Katana314,

— A man that put his VR game exclusively on his own digital distribution platform.

TonyTonyChopper,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

…a platform that works much better than the others… and a game that has been made with more love than anything in the past half a decade

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You are fully justified to put your own developed stuff where youwant to.
On this one point I side with Ubisoft.

TwilightVulpine,

Yeah, this particular argument goes back around to validating Ubisoft

A_Very_Big_Fan,

The problem isn’t that Ubisoft is using their own launcher, it’s that their launcher blows ass

Wrench,

On their own game engine.

Built to showcase their specific VR hardware. That they built after getting burned from multiple VR companies who abused Valves good will of providing access to their patent protected VR tech for free, to help accelerate the VR industry.

osaerisxero, do games w Skill issue
@osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org avatar

🌏👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

🌏👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

I get the meme, but I don’t know how to apply it to this post.

Could someone elaborate?

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

osaerisxero,
@osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org avatar

The line at the bottom, the reply to the wall of text

"Noted. misogyny is a skill issue"

always has been

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Ahh, ok. Thanks. Was focusing on the body/paragraph of the text.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

PunnyName,

“Always has been”

Balinares,

I am in mad love with this Darmok-ass comment.

osaerisxero,
@osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Damon's Gatsby, his glass raised

TheDoozer,

Damon? Do you mean Dicaprio?

DannyBoy,
ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar
the_riviera_kid,

Darmok and Jalad when the misogynist raged.

TimeSquirrel, (edited ) do games w What are some video game quotes that is stuck in your head?
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

KILLING SPREE!

RAMPAGE!

DOUBLE KILL!

M-M-M-MONSTER KILL!

Edit: oh yeah and Duke at an arcade cabinet of his own game: "Don't have time to play with myself."

spankmonkey,
@spankmonkey@lemmy.world avatar

We had a silly mod for Unreal Tournament back in the day for LAN parties that switched out the headshot theme for crotch shots. Whoever did the voice was spot on with the game’s announcer.

CROTCH SHOT!

CROTCH SPREE!

CROTCH RAMPAGE!

CROTCH DOMINATION!

ramble81,

ULTRA KILL!

HOLY SHIT!

Yes that last one actually existed in UT2004

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Especially when you maxed the graphics

youtu.be/p6oEBrAYowg

Anticorp,

HUMILIATION

JustEnoughDucks,
@JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl avatar

Also in UT1999 right? It sits in my memory, but all my friends only played ut1999 until like 2012 lol.

fsxylo,

HEADSHOT

kozy138,

HEADSHOT!

mercano,
@mercano@lemmy.world avatar

I’m curious, what voice to people hear these lines in, the default epic male announcer voice, or the super horny female announcer alternative?

scorp,
@scorp@lemmy.ml avatar

Time to chooooose

caseyweederman,

KILLAMANJARO

bionicjoey, do games w Valve issues DMCA takedown for "Team Fortress: Source 2"

Valve are well within their rights here. This isn’t new content or transformative. It’s literally trying to remake the same game using the same engine. These devs knew they were playing with fire. Never come between GabeN and his hats.

Stovetop, (edited )

Makes me wonder where their line is between this and Black Mesa, though.

Mountaineer,
@Mountaineer@aussie.zone avatar

I’d guess the fine line is “Valve intend to earn money from something official in the future”

duplexsystem,
gamermanh,

Black Mesa is a remake of a single player game that Valve wasn’t planning on remaking any time soon, more profitable to make it official and take a cut

TF2 actively still makes them sht tons of money, no profit in splitting the fan base

Vespair,

Imo, Trademark. Black Mesa is a concept from Half-Life, but “Black Mesa” to the best of my knowledge wasn’t a registered trademark. “Team Fortress/Team Fortress 2” are registered trademarks however, and that significantly changes the value and functionality of the specific terms.

MotoAsh,

That would only allow them the name, not the content. They always had to get Valve’s permission.

Vespair,

Yes, but it’s easier to give permission to use concepts that don’t infringe on trademark than it is to give permission on something that could be argued in court as muddying a trademark.

I know they require permission either way, but what permission they’re actually asking for changes based on what terminology they use

MotoAsh,

Well my point is that since the content is directly related, it actually doesn’t matter what they called it. It would’ve been exactly the same amount of infringement if they called it, “happy fun times at the science lab”.

The only differnce is it would’ve been less obvious to identify.

Vespair,

I get your point, my point is the infringement would be less egregious without trademark and thus easier for Valve to turn a blind eye to, or even potentially officially endorse via some potential deal à la Black Mesa.

But hey, I am fully willing to concede that I am just a layman with enormous distance from this topic and no specific expertise or insider knowledge, so the possibility of me being wrong is high

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

But we just got Portal Revolution some days ago, on steam.

Potatos_are_not_friends, (edited )

My thinking is that it was hot garbage that was trying to milk the TF2 name to grow their own fanbase. And valve didn’t want to be associated with that.

My guess is that Black Mesa looks great, had passionate people who were really communicating and engaging with Valve/community, didn’t infringe on the Half-Life trademark and it felt like a step forward, which is why it was allowed to continue AND even be brought to market.

Cybersteel,
@Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

They got a taste of their own medicine. They should have gotten rid of those low effort, asset swop games on the store then.

Draedron,

It being within their rights doesnt make it less shitty. Fuck IP

Vespair,

Unfortunately it’s not just well within their rights, it’s their legal obligation. The stupid situation that is America means that for them to be able to maintain their claim of ownership on the IP trademark, they have to both actively use the trademark and actively police unauthorized use of the trademark by others. If they don’t, they risk losing the right to claim the trademark, which wouldn’t just mean independents running servers for the game, but also would mean unscrupulous entities could produce and sell merchandise featuring the trademark en masse without having to seek permission from or pay any commissions to Valve.

It’s shitty, but it’s more shitty because of the stupid system we’ve built than because of any intentional malevolence on Valve’s part, imo.

Important caveat: I am not a legal professional and it is entirely possible my understanding of trademark law is flawed, but this is my earnest understanding of the situation.

baggins,

DMCA has nothing to do with trademarks

Vespair,

Well then I got nothin’ 🤷‍♂️

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

No, it isn’t.

Petrella v. Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Inc.

It is hardly incumbent on copyright owners, however, to challenge each and every actionable infringement. And there is nothing untoward about waiting to see whether an infringer’s exploitation undercuts the value of the copyrighted work, has no effect on the original work, or even complements it. Fan sites prompted by a book or film, for example, may benefit the copyright owner. See Wu, Tolerated Use, 31 Colum. J. L. & Arts 617, 619–620 (2008).

eskimofry,

We need to change IP and copyright law to add a “use it or lose it” clause for games that have been left to languish for eternity.

A_Random_Idiot,

just result in companies releasing even shittier games just to protect their IPs.

Sorgan71,

Not eternity 95 years.

capuccino, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
@capuccino@lemmy.world avatar

Portal 2.

bamboo,

This was a triumph

I’m making a note here

“Huge success”

It’s hard to overstate my satisfaction

warm,

We peaked in 2011.

SaltSong,
@SaltSong@startrek.website avatar

Portal 1 was flawless. Portal 2 had a crucial flaw.

Specifically, it was not Portal 1. Everything else was perfect.

capuccino,
@capuccino@lemmy.world avatar

Are you saying that Portal 2 is not perfect due is a sequel?

SaltSong,
@SaltSong@startrek.website avatar

Not a sequel. Just because it’s not Portal 1. The fact that it’s second is not the problem. The problem is that the first one was flawless.

thatKamGuy,

So the gaming equivalent of ‘chasing the dragon’? That tracks!

SaltSong,
@SaltSong@startrek.website avatar

chasing the dragon

Huh. I guess it might be.

Far from my first game, but my first perfect game. Yea, I guess that does track.

Akasazh,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

Too few promises of cake

nogooduser,

In my opinion, Portal 2’s difficulty curve was off. It started in a good place and ended in a good place but was too easy for most of the game.

The two player section was fantastic though.

anamethatisnt, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Path of Exile, Titan Quest, Grim Dawn, Torchlight 2

toxicbubble, (edited )

this is the definitive list.

path of exile is most popular but has optional mtx(?)

titan quest and Torchlight are on multiple consoles. titan quest has a sequel in production

grim dawn is by the titan quest team, has a small file size, and runs well on older pcs.

glitches_brew,

Does Last Epoch belong on this list too?

toxicbubble,

I’ve only heard good things but haven’t tried it yet, probably does belong!

glitches_brew,

Ive had a ton of fun playing it!

PlantJam,

Yes it absolutely does belong! It’s officially launching on February 21, but it’s currently available in beta/early access.

Thorry84,

Yes! As a die hard Grim Dawn fan I can say Last Epoch is awesome. Grim Dawn is still better imho, but Last Epoch comes close. Both are excellent games one could easily put 100+ hours in and have a blast.

Croquette,

I just wish that I could start at a higher difficulty on Grim Dawn with the appropriate scaling. I don’t want to do the campaign 3 times just like old days.

Ketram,

Didn’t they just change the game with the last patch (still being updated, my God the devs are GOATed) so they you can play to 100 in any difficulty? I still imagine you get pasted in elite and ultimate if that’s your issue though.

Croquette,

I don’t know, haven’t played with that feature. The campaign with expansion is long enough that it was a pain to go through it to get to endgame.

It’s a good thing that you can skip that.

Ketram,

Yeah I’m hoping so as well, haven’t played since that patch. I got really burnt out spamming the story over and over too.

darth_helmet,

Path of exile charges for inventory QoL and with the ludicrous amount of different stuff that drops, it’s arguably kind of mandatory if you’re trying to complete seasonal objectives

bisby,

Its also free to play.

Or as some streamers say: its a $60 game with an incredibly generous free trial.

sadbehr,
@sadbehr@lemmy.nz avatar

For PoE you consider 30gb installed (on PS5 mind you) a large file size? Yes it has mtx, but it is not once pushed or advertised to you, and none of it is required for anything. They does improve the QoL of the game however.

CoD + WZ is around 240gb I think. Most modern AAA games are usually 90gb minimum.

toxicbubble,

true, I thought it was larger for some reason

sadbehr,
@sadbehr@lemmy.nz avatar

Some years ago they pretty much rewrote the entire base game code (or some parts of it) and tidied it up, reducing the overall size. It may be larger installed on PC (I’m on PS5) but I can’t imagine there being too much of a difference.

TheLugal,
@TheLugal@lemmy.world avatar

The MTX for PoE are within the “nice” ones. There’s extra stash tabs, but you don’t need to consider that until after the campaign. And then there’s cosmetics. No pay to win. And the MTX are on your account, so they will be on PoE2 as well.

GraniteM,

How is the couch co-op for Titan Quest? My SO and I spent a ton of time on Diablo 3 together and I might consider trying that again.

anamethatisnt,

No couch coop on PC, so I don’t know.
There is 2 player local coop for Playstation, XBox and Nintendo though
www.co-optimus.com/game/334/pc/titan-quest.html

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w UK petition of "Require videogame publishers to keep games they have sold in a working state" just got thrown back to the Government

This is honestly pretty funny. Even another government agency recognized how bad the response was. That was literally like someone asking how old you are, and you respond by telling them the definition of age.

pycorax, do games w Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators)

If Discord is going to be abandoned by people, I wish we’d go back to proper forums that’s much more accessible and searchable. Continuing down this road is just going to lead to the continued burying of useful information behind these services.

vividspecter,

I think there’s room for both, as in the old days there was typically an IRC channel along side forums that was typically a secondary channel (but not always).

But yeah, forums would be ideal, preferably with federation support so there is no need to make an account with every single one.

PassingThrough,

Well, you see IRC and forums went together because they filled two different needs and we understood that back in the day.

IRC was for chatting, short, quick real time communication that would be lost to the ether as soon as you signed off, unless you had a bouncer or log bot.

Forums were for long information, be that long posts or posts that needed to endure for a long time. Sure you’d get some one liner responses to those posts, but forums were not at all instant like IRC. Though the information did stay much longer, and was much more searchable and organized.

Discord has spoiled us, being quick and chatty while also allowing for longer posts and being searchable. At least within the Discord client. Shoot they even added those “forum” channels to replicate the old forum feel. But real time.

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

i wouldn’t say discord “spoiled” us by trying to reinvent forums, i’d say it unnecessarily blurred the lines. classic case of feature creep.

libra00,
@libra00@lemmy.world avatar

Forums are just not great for real-time interaction like discord chat is, not to mention the integration of voice chat, video streaming, etc is just too convenient to give up without replacing it with something similar. I too wish discord/whatever replacement gets attention was more searchable and kept stuff long-term, but… if you want to post info that lasts, post it on lemme and link it on discord or whatever.

Hyphlosion, (edited )

True, but I can’t help having nostalgia for ye olde forum days.

Edit: Not sure why I keep being downvoted. I never said forums would replace anything. I was merely acknowledging my nostalgia for old forum boards from a now bygone era. Didn’t realize having fond memories of a time period on the Internet was a bad thing. Jesus.

eronth,

Reasonable, but you’d be fooling yourself to act as if forums will meaningfully replace Discord for most users.

libra00,
@libra00@lemmy.world avatar

Fair enough.

I kinda don’t though. I quite enjoy real-time chat and voice and video with friends. It’s not like forums don’t exist at all anymore tho - you’re on one right now. I get my forum experience from places like reddit or lemmy, and I use them for very different things, so I’m glad both exist.

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

discord is not a forum (even if they want it to be with the forum channels), its never been a good location to store information. That being said, its amazing for real time communication unlike forums. I hate that devs use it for FAQ and bug forms and stuff. I stopped reporting bugs if it requires me to join a discord.

Korhaka,

Discord is more of a chat room than a forum though, lemmy is a federated alternative to forums.

SW42,

Amen! I remember the good old days of speciality community forums based on VB or even phpBB or in some cases Woltlab. I miss the simpler times.

criss_cross,

I think we just need to split roles again.

Discord did there best to be an all in one solution and we just need a return to real time chat and voice along with asynchronous communication like forums

mic_check_one_two,

We need both for different purposes. Discord is amazing for voice, video, and IM chatting. All things that happen in real-time. But forums are intended for a vastly different use case. Forums are play-by-post. They’re asynchronous. They’re meant for responding at your earliest convenience, not for talking to someone right now. The fact that so many people began using Discord as a forum replacement is a travesty, because Discord is a fucking atrocious medium for forums… Not due to any fault of Discord’s, but because they’re completely different use cases.

randomblock1,

You’re on a forum right now, no? I think a lot of Discords have accompanying Reddits and vice versa, hopefully they start using Lemmy. But forums are still popular. Just not Ye Olde BBS

pycorax,

Not nearly enough of them. Too many frameworks or libraries have their QnAs on Discord instead of a dedicated forum.

jedibob5, (edited ) do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

I wonder how much it has to do with how much of a shithole the Fandom network is. Between the godawful UX, aggressive SEO to bury competing wikis in search results, and scummy business practices that effectively prevent wiki admins from migrating to other hosts, the idea of maintaining a game wiki probably isn’t all that appealing these days.

I miss Wikia…

Illecors,

Would you care to elaborate on what’s preventing wiki admins from migrating?

jedibob5, (edited )

They don’t actually let admins shut down their wikis or remove content from them. They can leave and start a new wiki, but they have to leave the old one in place (for which Fandom could potentially just find new admins), and they can only link to the new wiki from the Fandom wiki for a period of two weeks. With Fandom’s SEO, there’s a good chance the Fandom wiki will still be ahead of search results of a new wiki even after migration. Source

ono,

I wonder if this could be mitigated (or even nullified) by a cooperative game developer, through DMCA takedown notices sent to Fandom. There is a lot of art on these wikis, after all, and I imagine the copyright holder has some say in who is allowed to distribute it.

Illecors,

Thank you. I’ve been dabbling with the idea of establishing a non-profit for my lemmy instance. I’m not a user of game/movie/etc wikis, but I do love looking after my servers. I wonder if a non-profit owned wiki site bear any weight over time.

DrQuint,

Man this was an issue already some 10 years ago when touhou wiki went self-hosted. It took a whole year for google to get memo and link the new one above the old.

Nowadays I assume it’s pretty much impossible to reverse the flow unless if your game is huge and highly sought after.

EnglishMobster,

What are they going to do? Ban them?

Honestly if I was migrating away from Fandom I’d do everything I can to burn every bridge. Go through and edit every page to have every link redirect to the better wiki. Ignore their 2-week period, and don’t inform the Fandom overlords that the wiki is being shut down (it’s not like they’re going to check without being prompted).

I’d make them ban me, and then good luck finding an admin.

jedibob5,

It’s not too hard to roll back changes on a wiki. Any attempts at sabotage wouldn’t be very difficult to undo.

AlexWIWA,

I am forever grateful that halopedia rolled their own wiki and was spared from the fandom plague.

deranger,

Another stark comparison is UESP vs. Fandom for elder scrolls lore. Fandom is absolute cancer, poor UX even with an adblocker.

AlexWIWA,

Yeah I find it completely unusable. I can’t use wookiepedia anymore because it is just awful to use. Like you said, it’s awful even with an ad blocker

bionicjoey,

UESP is such a gem

GrammatonCleric,
@GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Wikidot was the shit for Dark Souls games 😙👌

setsneedtofeed, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

objective

MEDIA APPRECIATION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY, GOOD NIGHT!

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8863b680-575d-42f6-be41-79d084a6a334.jpeg

pelerinli, do games w What are y'all buying on the steam sale?

Zero. I’ve too much already unplayed and unfortunately working now (sucks to be adult).

ColeSloth,

Buying a steam deck significantly increased by gaming time. The ability to immediately suspend and resume my gameplay, and not have to go over to my desktop helped a lot. I’ve played more this past year than I have in the last 3 years combined.

TwinTusks,
@TwinTusks@bitforged.space avatar

unfortunately working now

Try also have some kids

thorbot,

No thanks

Gabu,

I’m not a masochist, why would I do that?

TwinTusks,
@TwinTusks@bitforged.space avatar

Good thinking, I love my kids but they suck your time/energy and money like a blackhole.

JokeDeity, do gaming w Rant: Valve's new Steam Deck screws speak volumes about their ethos.

When Gaben dies there will be fucking riots.

Onihikage,
@Onihikage@beehaw.org avatar

I really hope he’s cultivating at least one successor within the company to carry on his vision.

yesman, do games w What are your favorite games for killing nazis?

Red Dead Redemption 2.

OK hear me out.

Sure the game’s setting predates the Nazis and there are none to kill in the game. However, there is an entire inexhaustible faction of Confederates to murder. But even better than that, the game gives you several opportunities to stumble on a Klan meeting.

These encounters are special because they’re a sandbox for creative butchery and guiltless massacre. Even the game’s honor system looks the other way while you toss a gallon of liquor onto the burning cross, dousing the Grand Dragon and all his Cyclopses, sending them in a screeching panic, fully engulfed, off a nearby cliff just like that dude in Lord of the Rings.

Ferrous,
@Ferrous@lemmy.ml avatar

It also has that one dude on the street in saint denis who

minor side character spoileris pushing his eugenics book.

LaserTurboShark69,

I save my moltovs for that guy and his books

noxypaws,
@noxypaws@pawb.social avatar

I hogtied him in front of everyone, put him on the back of my horse, rode up to a swamp, and threw him in right in front of a gator

Good times

ObstreperousCanadian,
@ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca avatar

Also, if you just watch them they accidentally light themselves on fire.

noxypaws,
@noxypaws@pawb.social avatar

Evey time I run into the RDR2 version of the KKK (Lemoyne Raiders?) I get so giddy and happy that I get the opportunity to find a new, creative, fun way to kill them all.

Probably favorite is to hogtie the ones I can keep alive, toss all the live and dead ones into a single pile, then light it on fire

Artyom,

Lemoyne Raiders aren’t the Klan. There’s actual klansmen too. You have to find them at night in the woods near Lemoyne, but they’re never associated with the raiders.

noxypaws,
@noxypaws@pawb.social avatar

I could have sworn I got some note off one of the hooded corpses that identified them as Raiders, and nothing actually using the actual KKK name, though it’s so obvious from the hoods and the cross that that’s exactly who they’re intended to be

Infernal_pizza,
@Infernal_pizza@lemm.ee avatar

SpoilerI love the part when you come across that old man who’s house etc has been repossessed and he wants you to go and retrieve some belongings. I initially I felt sorry for him so of course I went and did it, and then you find out he was a slave trader. I completed the quest anyway and liked the cut scene where Arthur just burns everything. Then before I rode away I shot him in the head and laughed when I saw it made my honour go up

noxypaws,
@noxypaws@pawb.social avatar

I loved the way that little discovery wrapped up. His body burned real good.

Eyck_of_denesle, do games w PEGI gives Balatro an 18+ rating for gambling imagery

Windows comes bundled with solitaire. How is it allowed in schools?

A_Union_of_Kobolds,

Give the kids Linux! Build a generation of superusers!

warmaster,

Supertux depicts imagery of speeding, misdemeanor and felony. +18 Age rating for Torvalds and all of his derivatives.

turbowafflz,

I think the current microsoft version of solitaire has microtransactions and ads so is actually significantly worse

vaultdweller013,

Why, how, the fuck do you add microtransactions to fucking solitaire?!

iAmTheTot,

It’s not really micro transactions as much as it is a monthly subscription to remove ads.

vaultdweller013,

Its fucking solitaire you can play the old version from windows 95 online for free. This is beyond fucking stupid.

iAmTheTot,

If that satisfies you then all the power to you.

FuzzyDog,

Real question, why wouldn’t the win95/xp version satisfy someone? Isn’t it the same thing with simpler graphics?

iAmTheTot,

I can’t speak for other people, I don’t even play solitaire. Realistically, I imagine most people get new PCs with newer Windows versions and play whatever solitaire is on there.

vaultdweller013,

Im a Utilitarian to a fault, of course I think the windows 95 version is just as valid. I wear everything down to scrap.

Zangoose,
@Zangoose@lemmy.world avatar

Step 1: Add ads into [insert app of choice here] that are really annoying

Step 2: Make people pay to get rid of them. Bonus points if it’s a subscription

Step 3: People hate your app but it’s the one that’s installed by default so they use it anyway

Step 4: Profit

vaultdweller013,

The fact that this business model earns moneu rather than car bombs annoys me.

RogueBanana,

They added micro transactions and ads to fucking solitaire? How have I not heard about this till now…

TriflingToad,

iirc it’s a subscription too

iAmTheTot,

This isn’t really new. Solitaire has had ads for over a decade now since Windows 8, and there is a monthly premium subscription to remove them. As I understand it they also don’t show during offline play, but might be wrong about that.

redhorsejacket,

Offline play? It’s SOLITAIRE. Offline play should be the ONLY play, by default.

Feeling like I took crazy pills this morning…

ggtdbz, (edited )

If it makes you feel better/worse, the subscription is shared across multiple games. I was playing a bunch of Microsoft Jigsaw at one point (don’t ask), and while you could play as much as you’d like for free, the fact that they squeezed ads into it to extort you (or more likely, clueless older people) really cheapened the whole thing.

They had a lot of pretty photos which were probably not free, but come on, this is Microsoft, they have the money. I think this should’ve been bundled with Windows for free. I truly think a lot of people might even look back on it fondly the way they do with a lot of the older bundled-in games. We will take for granted how much the default option with any sort of technology around us has an impact on us as kids. Maybe not everyone, but not everyone loved pinball or inkball.

Actual textbook enshittification: what was once a space for a nice default thing to fall back on if you were bored and had their operating system has now become an “opportunity” to “generate more business.” Very sad. Computers are impossibly wonderful machines, everyone who has access to one should be able to enjoy a few basic things, packed in, for free - with no strings attached (looking at you candy crush).

I’m sure there’s a nice free or paid jigsaw game made with love out there that could satisfy that itch I felt that one week in 2020. Hm.

Edit: I have now redownloaded Microsoft Jigsaw and might just expand this comment into a full post/rant about the state of modern consumer software through the lens of Microsoft’s current casual games suite

iAmTheTot,

There are daily challenges and things like that which is what I would refer to as online play. Not that crazy imho of you’ve put thousands of hours into vanilla solitaire that you may welcome something to spice it up.

RogueBanana,

Damn I have fond memories of those games back in xp and 7 era but ig enshitification is evitable when it comes to Microsoft

AwesomeLowlander,

You’re being funny, right? Tell me you’re just kidding

the_post_of_tom_joad,

I can’t see any news that you can ‘pay to remove ads’ but lots of “how do i remove ads in solitaire” with settings instructions or registry edits so i think op is only half right

AwesomeLowlander,

Jesus I’m so glad I moved to Linux

pixelscript,

I also don’t think it comes pre-installed anymore, you have to get it through Microsoft’s meme store that no one uses.

absquatulate,

MTX and ads? Then it’s clearly only 3+ and should be allowed lol

Maggoty,

Because you don’t place bets on your solitaire hand.

ech,

Maybe look into the game being discussed even a little before commenting on it.

Maggoty,

I did. I’m not going to go buy it for this though. They literally use poker terms, poker imagery, and real poker hands. Saying it’s just because there’s cards involved is disingenuous.

ech,

And yet you say it’s cause of “gambling”. So you’re either lying about looking into it or lying about what you saw.

Maggoty,

This is all on their steam page dude.

ech,

So lying about looking into it. Got it.

Overshoot2648,

You could use the same for majong or pachinko like games like Peggle. The issue is the actual gambling, not just the game elements or risk, reward, and points going up. Loot boxes are 10× worse.

Maggoty,

No, we know that stuff that glorifies addictive activities can recruit or cause relapse as well.

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