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vxx, do games w 'Oh god': There's a buried Steam help page that shows how much money you've ever spent on the platform, and you may not want to know

Home - > Account - > Purchase History

I don’t know why you would use a third Party Tool that estimates your purchases, when it has always been right there in your account, without estimates.

Rentlar,

Main reason for me is that I have bought humble bundles, donated to gamejams, and gotten keys off of legit and grey-market sites in the past in conjunction with buying directly from Steam. Those aren’t included in the Steam spend category.

vxx,

The tool doesn’t know how much you paid for it, though, so it’s completely ignoring sales, donations and in app purchases, and just applies a price to it.

Jestzer,

To judge my friends, of course.

vxx,

Legit

dbtng,
@dbtng@eviltoast.org avatar

You should look at the External Funds thing mentioned in the article. It gives a different spending breakdown than Purchase History.

Help > Steam support > My account > Data related to your Steam account > External funds used. (Its the 13th item on a huge page full of stuff.)

gonzo-rand19,
@gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com avatar

This isn't a 3rd party tool, it's a separate Steam Support page that lists your total purchases. It basically takes the data from the Purchase History section (assuming that you usually pay directly and not using Steam gift cards) and totals it so that you don't have to do that manually.

samuelazers,

It’s been known for atleast 7 years: reddit.com/…/what_is_difference_between_totalspen…

edit: no need to point out those are 2 different links, ill leave this up

Abnorc,

Hahaha this takes me back. My first purchases in 2011 were a few TF2 weapons. I got my account a short time after it went F2P.

Goldholz,

You bought weapons?? In the mann co store?

Abnorc,

lol yes. I did it a few times before I realized that it’s not a good way to get weapons. Only lost a few bucks.

Edit: Should clarify, my parents bought them.

Hadriscus,

TF2 is free to play ??

bss03,

Don’t they make all their money on hats?

Hadriscus,

I don’t know… I haven’t played since 2007… hats ? I’m so out of the loop…

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

It is now. It wasn’t at first.

It was part of the Valve Orange Box and that was a big deal at the time. There was also a huge deal of whining from people who paid for it when Valve announced they were changing it to a free to play model.

Hadriscus,

Ok I see. yea my memory is of the orange box, on xbox. Or was it the 360 ?

who, do games w Hero shooter Highguard reportedly didn't even pay for the Game Awards slot that's earned it so much preemptive hate—the showrunners thought it deserved the spotlight

Easy Anti-Cheat - Requires manual removal after game uninstall Boot Protection - Requires both Secure Boot & TPM 2.0

VonReposti,

Why the fuck does a game require boot protection!?

who,

Almost certainly to protect invasive anti-cheat code that they expect your computer to run with system-level privileges.

msokiovt, do games w Uh oh: Ubisoft postpones its quarterly financial report at the last minute and halts stock trading
@msokiovt@lemmy.today avatar

They know. They’re done, and that’s that.

doctortran, (edited ) do games w The official Nintendo Museum appears to be emulating SNES games on a Windows PC, which is slightly embarrassing

Just for the record, this is exactly what any museum would do, because they’re not going to actually run anything on the original hardware. Those systems are part of the collection, and it behooves a museum to not put any wear on them.

Also because emulators can be managed remotely.

johannesvanderwhales,

Plus you can do stuff like reset the emulator to a certain state pretty easily. Without having to reboot the hardware or anything. So you could do an exhibit on level 7 and have the game queued up to the level the exhibit is about.

DarkMetatron,

That is highly depending on the type of Museum. Many Videogame and Computer Museums (at least in Germany) are showing the real Hardware running, some are even allowing the visitors to use and play at the old machines. And yes, they are often very used to repairing the hardware too.

I would expect from Nintendo that they would show and use real hardware in their museum, and not some emulators. Because I can see the games on an emulator at home (for example using my Switch Online or my SNES Classic), I don’t need a museum for that experience.

cryptiod137,

I know to be a certified museum in the US, you must work to preserve your articles in perpetuity, meaning anything that could be detrimental to the article is discouraged if not totally disallowed.

sneezycat,
@sneezycat@sopuli.xyz avatar

Unless they store everything in high vacuum and near absolute zero, it’s going to get oxidized and fail eventually. There is no such thing as perpetuity. Might as well give them some use.

cryptiod137,

You really think an old parchment document would survive being in a high vacuum and near absolute zero?

Yeah sure, nothing lasts forever, but the really not the point. Your goal is to attempt to preserve your articles forever.

Are you going to fall short? Absolutely, but your still required to attempt to do so. So you avoid doing anything directly harmful, such as operating an old computer, firing an old cannon, or diving an old car.

DarkMetatron,

Parchment would survive the vacuum and near zero most likely quite good, parchment is a type of leather after all and way more sturdy then paper, the process of thawing would be a way bigger issue. And should it ever thaw fast and uncontrolled that would for sure ruin it completely

aesthelete,

Your body is going to fail eventually, so you might as well stop brushing your teeth and start drinking scotch at breakfast. /s

sneezycat,
@sneezycat@sopuli.xyz avatar

More like I rather enjoy it while it lasts instead of going into a fridge to preserve it ;P

DarkMetatron,

Ok that is not the case in Germany, here you can have items multiple times, to have some to archive and some to use.

I can see that the preservation aspect is very valid for highly rare or one of a kind items, but that is generally not the case with retro hardware. Yes there are examples for that too (like C65 or other prototype stuff) but nobody would expect a museum to put that to use.

cryptiod137,

That’s the case… For now.

No one would have cared to preserve a Mosin Nagant from 1892 when they were making 500,000 of them, why would they? You can just go and buy more, the factory is right over there. Fast forward 132 years later, they are scarce antiques. And in another 100 years, there may only be a dozen left.

The entire field of computers as we know it, integrated circuits, is about half as old as that particular rifle, and the technology has changed so fast, it’s really crazy.

So while it might seem like that’s reasonable now, I mean the people who designed those systems are often still alive, even still working. Of course we can still fix and use them.

Now give it 60 or so years, your sitting around in you retirement community, sad you lost the auction for a 2003 eMachines tower PC with all the stickers still attached, kicking yourself about how you tossed one out back in the day.

At least you kept your Atari Jaguar, kept in a hermetically sealed container, that managed to save when you had to evacuate from the 2nd Finnish-Korean Hyperwar.

Edit: Abominable spelling

zalgotext,

They’re fucking Nintendo. They made the consoles they’re showing off in their museum. They absolutely have the ability to supply that museum with equipment and maintain it in perpetuity, because they fucking invented it

cryptiod137,

That’s not the point of it though. Not about whether you could fix or maintain it when operating it, it’s about not operating it if presents a notable risk of failure. The Smithsonian doesn’t start grinding cornmeal in a bowl from the Mississippians. The Connecticut Museum doesn’t take it’s colt rifles out the range for target practice. These organizations would use a replica to demonstrate what it was like, as opposed to risking damaging an original article.

Thats also not even necessary true either. While they may have invented there various consoles, at some point it will be nearly impossible to acquire replacement parts. They don’t manufacture the ICs or mainboards or the various discreet components. So if there’s no old stock, how would they “fix” a broken N64 (or later) console? It might be theoretically possible to fab a NEC VR4300 to replace a dead one, but probably cost hundreds of thousands, and it wouldn’t be broken anyway if you hadn’t left if running 16 hours a day so some sweaty tourists could play on real hardware.

And why would they? It would cost more, be more work, and have less reliable results than using a completely replacable computer running an emulator. The entire consumer facing side of the equation is worse if they run the games on the actual hardware, as long as the consumer doesn’t see it, which is really down to how they design the exhibit.

Do you think the public is understanding enough to accept that “The NES is really old and it broke so you can’t play super mario bros today”, when it’s the only day you are gonna be there? Temper tantrum, bad reviews, loss of face. From what I understand, Japan actually cares about all that, so Nintendo probably does as well.

DarkMetatron,

They could replace all the parts in a SNES or NES with components indefinitely, because inside are either off the shelf components or specifically made components made after schematics from Nintendo. So even if nobody makes such parts anymore at the moment there is nothing (but time and money) that would stop Nintendo to order new parts based on their schematics.

Most issues with old consoles can even be fixed by hobbyists and if they can’t that’s because they don’t have access to the needed information to create new versions of the tailor made components.

So there should be no issue for Nintendo to supply their museum with replicas forever. Yes it would cost way more money then using Emulators, but it would be way more appropriate for their own museum. But no they have chosen the lazy route.

deltapi,

Offering visitors a nes or SNES classic - which are recent, official, Nintendo products would be less embarrassing than using a windows PC.

zalgotext,

Oh no, poor Nintendo, how could they possibly afford a custom IC fab? They only have more money than God.

The way I see it, they have two choices. Make the investment to supply their museum with original hardware, or be ok with emulation. They’re trying to have their cake and eat it too, and that’s shitty.

cryptiod137,

That would just be wasteful, and wouldn’t really be the same thing? Analogue already makes N64 FPGAs make things that are almost N64s, and Nintendo doesn’t seem to care.

Your forgetting that Nintendo emulates there own games all the time, literally since the GameCube.

There argument has never been about what they can do, it’s about what you can do. Now they are wrong under US law, but it’s not like it’s hard to go find ROMs of these games, they aren’t even on torrents or shady websites, you can download them directly.

zalgotext,

That would just be wasteful

I disagree. If they actually care about the preservation of their history (which is the whole point of museums), they should be willing to invest a tiny fraction of their incredible wealth to do that, if they want to run it themselves.

Your forgetting that Nintendo emulates there own games all the time, literally since the GameCube.

I’m not forgetting anything. That’s my whole point. Nintendo has their own emulators, in both software and hardware. Why are they running some Windows emulator on a Windows PC in their own museum? It makes me think that they just took one of the myriad open source emulators (that they’re probably trying diligently to get shut down) and installed that, and it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re playing ripped ROMs on it, given that they include ripped ROMs on their own emulation libraries (that they charge people to access, btw). Because they’ve proven that they’re hypocrites when it comes to emulation.

There argument has never been about what they can do, it’s about what you can do.

Right, again, that’s my point. Emulation is fine and dandy when Nintendo does it, but not when anyone else does it, yet they still benefit from those other emulators. That’s shitty.

cryptiod137,

Or they could just, I don’t know, not burn out console after console running them constantly so they don’t have to spend exuberantly. That’s if the they can even produce that process node somehow. If not, making a new fab would cost 10s of millions, to produce old and completely antiquated hardware that they can already emulate on there current hardware.

What do think Nintendo does there development on? You think they run the unity editor on the Switch? They have probably used windows emulators for development since the Gamecube, and they absolutely have there own versions. Which open source emulators are they trying shut down? Something from this decade? If you mean Switch emulators, that’s just piracy, which I’m all for, but it’s not a exactly a moral high ground.

I thought they had included ripped ROMs, someone mentioned in another thread that were packaging the ROMs the same way. I’m not sure if that means the used the same tools or got to same result another way, buts it’s only a way of packaging ROMs.

It’s there IP, they can choose what’s allowed to be done with it. If they want to emulate it, they can. If they want it to only ever play on a N64DD, then thats also up to them. If they benefit from open source emulators, which I mostly doubt, then they as the fault on the emulator developer for being open source. Close it down, make Nintendo license it if you think it’s benefiting them unfairly.

I assure you they are currently runnng there in-development Switch2 games on in an emulated environment as we speak.

zalgotext,

Or they could just, I don’t know, not burn out console after console running them constantly so they don’t have to spend exuberantly.

  1. You’re grossly overestimating the number of consoles they would “burn through” by having a few of their original original hardware set up in their museum. If you’re worried about them running constantly, they could easily have a couple consoles per station that get swapped between throughout the day so that no one console is ever on for more than a few hours. People used their regularly NESes and SNESes for several years, I’m sure you could stretch that to decades of you had the expertise and resources of the company that invented the hardware behind you.
  2. You’re grossly overestimating the amount of money it would cost to maintain original hardware. As another user said, hobbyists can maintain an original system themselves for decades using mostly off-the-shelf parts. The rare occurrences where a proprietary Nintendo part needs replaced wouldn’t cost tens of millions of dollars. There’s thousands of shops that can manufacture small runs of custom ICs or circuit boards for a few thousand bucks. They wouldn’t need to maintain a custom multi-million dollar facility.

to produce old and completely antiquated hardware that they can already emulate on there current hardware.

Then emulate on your current hardware, if you’re going to use emulation! Don’t use a Windows emulator from who-knows-where, when you’ve repeatedly made clear that you’re against other parties emulating your hardware! That’s certainly more embarrassing by the way, if your Windows emulator crashes and museum goers are greeted by a Windows BSOD or whatever, instead of the Switch home screen or the Nintendo Online interface.

What do think Nintendo does there development on?

We’re talking about NES/SNES games here (which Nintendo doesn’t develop anymore, btw), because that’s what they were caught using a Windows PC and a Windows emulator for. So either they’re using someone else’s emulator, or they ported the emulator that runs on the switch to run on Windows (which would be a huge undertaking, considering the architecture and OS differences between a Nintendo Switch and a Windows PC).

If you mean Switch emulators, that’s just piracy

Emulation is not piracy.

I thought they had included ripped ROMs

Some of the ROMs on their official library contained signatures from popular ROM rippers, which indicates they straight up just downloaded them from one of the various ROM sites they’ve been trying to shut down for the last couple decades.

It’s there IP, they can choose what’s allowed to be done with it. If they want to emulate it, they can.

That’s fine, I don’t have a problem with anyone emulating anything, including Nintendo. My problem lies with their hypocrisy. If they want to emulate NES/SNES games in their own museum, go for it. But at least use your own emulator on your own hardware, given they have the ability to easily do that. Using a Windows PC and a Windows emulator for that is hypocritical.

cryptiod137,

NES and SNES processers? Those should be simple enough, although I’m not sure it would be 1 to 1 swap. Anything later? No.

You’d have to make the same processor on the same process node. That’s not even just to do transistor size, as that’s just one aspect of a particular companies process. No one has made 350nm MIPS dies since, well, the late 90s or early 2000s. So the equipment likely doesn’t exist anymore. I think they licensing is open now, but otherwise they would also need to relicense the design, which would be something that would be very hypocritical for Nintendo to do.

Sure a hobbyist could swap a dead passive component out, and probably fix a damaged trace on the PCB, that’s where it would stop. I’ve never seen a hobbyist or even small company make a PCB that complex. I know from personal experience that getting a batch of those made would run in the tens or hundreds of thousands. It actually may also need leaded solder, which would violate Japans version of RoHS. I’m not familiar enough with that standard to know if that would be permissable.

If hobbyist do have the capability to recreate the processor, why would a company like Analogue make an FPGA instead for there N64 clone? Think about all the development they put into that instead of trying to do what you’re suggesting is commonplace.

They don’t need to make an IC, the need to make the same IC. There are more powerful chips running smart toasters, and they cost a couple of dollars a piece, but that’s not the original hardware

Your also assuming that expertise and resources lies with the company, and not the staff themselves. I also know from personal experience how big of mistake that can be.

Anything later than an N64 is going to be progressively harder and harder to fix. By the end of the decade they will probably be emulating N64s. And so on and so forth.

The whole point is to not damage original articles, not to damage and then fix them. That’s what’s required of US Museum at least. It will matter more and more as the hardware ages and becomes scarcer.

On the next point, I think your giving the public too much credit. The BSoD is probably the most common failure screen in the world, but how many people would know to equate that with a windows PC and just with any computer?

What percent of the population knows what an emulator or emulation is? 1%? Maybe among people who are visiting the Nintendo museum, probably in the double digits, but not by much. The only embarrassment would be a reddit post, which would get turned into garbage news articles and shorts which everyone but us will forget about 3 seconds later. Basically every person that sees it would just be mad it’s not working when they happened to be there.

It’s is quite literally only there decision what hardware there IP can run on. In every legal way, they are the arbiters of that. Why are we supposed to care what emulator they use? If it’s open source, it’s as much there’s to use as everyone else’s. I wouldn’t run it on Windows certianly, but that is objectively there decision.

They probably have there own way on running NES/SNES games for development for Switch online or the NES classic, so your silly comment about them no longer developing those not only pointless but also probably wrong.

I’ve used mGBA on both my Switch and a PC, I’m not sure why you think that would be so hard. That’s literally made by a hobbyist, for a more modern system, and runs on several other platforms as well.

All emulation is probably (but not 100 certainly) piracy. It depends on how you read the law, but it seems clear to me that you can’t legally transfer software copies without transferring the original. Meaning for it to be legal, you would have to make the copy yourself, and continue owning the original. I say this as someone who fully supports pirating from AAA publishers, including Nintendo.

Can you provide a source for the ripped ROMs? I’ve been well actually’d on that before, now in both directions, but I can’t find an actual source.

These are in the most certain terms possible “rules for thee and not for me” but it’s there IP, and they get to set those rules. I wouldn’t describe there rights they fight tooth and nail for as hypocritical.

Funnily enough, I’m guessing the whole reason they are emulating NES/SNES is because they were having reliability issues.They probably picked the simplest thing they could get working on short notice.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Any other museum wouldn’t be a hypocrite for doing so.

DarkMetatron,

Even if they don’t use the real old hardware then at least they could have created something that is closer to the original hardware, for example a SNES/NES/N64 console based on FPGA in a recreated original shell. Anything but a stupid emulator running on a Windows PC.

lengau,

An FPGA seems like a lot of effort, but an SNES emulator running on a Raspberry Pi seems like it may have been a better option IMO.

DarkMetatron,

I am sure that Nintendo is using FPGA for internal R&D, so they have people capable of writing cores for FPGA. Add to that the fact that Nintendo has all the schematics and detailed information about the original hardware and designs.

Yes, a FPGA would have been work, but not lots of work for them. And we are speaking of 8 and 16 bit hardware, that is very small and limited hardware.

Besides that: Windows can run on a Raspberry PI, so maybe the emulator on Windows used by Nintendo is already using that. Who knows?

lengau,

Making an FPGA for all of this is far more work than pulling an open source emulator and sticking it on a machine…

DarkMetatron,

Yes, but Nintendo did neither the one nor the other.

lengau,

This looks a whole lot like it’s probably some random emulator they grabbed and full screened?

DarkMetatron,

Why should they do that? They already have their own SNES emulator with Canoe (used for example on the SNES Classic Mini). It is much more logical to assume that they compiled Canoe to run on Windows for this exhibition.

lengau,

I take it you’ve never ported an application to a different platform running on a different hardware architecture before.

DarkMetatron,

I have and if the code is well written and prepared then such a port can be done with just a recompilation for the different platform. Yes, often it is not that easy but the developers at Nintendo are neither dumb nor incompetent.

lengau,

You’re making my point for me though. Each of the other things you’ve suggested is more work than requires more expertise. Popping up an emulator on an existing box and dumping a ROM in there is something an intern can do.

All of these other things can be done, but they’re not as quick and simple, and that’s why we’re seeing this in the first case - Nintendo went with a quick and simple solution, and someone found a bug (it still plays Windows noises).

DarkMetatron,

You have your view at the world, a view where everyone is lazy on every level, and I have mine. Thank you for the nice conversation and have a great day!

finitebanjo,

This is a “Museum” run by Nintendo in Japan. Meaning they could have used or even created more original hardware to run the titles, but instead cut costs by using the same Emulators that they’re hoping to take down.

aesthelete,

Them being the original creator of the products doesn’t necessarily imply that they still have running production processes for every product that they ever made.

finitebanjo, (edited )

If I obtain all the original schematics and software and make 1 Nintendo internals for commercial purposes wothout their permission it would be illegal.

If they do it, it costs them the price of a couple of family dinners at most.

This museum IS NINTENDO. They are the only people allowed to do this job correctly.

aesthelete,

This is all just speculation. I have no idea how much it would cost for them to build new systems for every playable game in the museum.

Entirely aside from the could argument, I don’t really understand why they would do it.

finitebanjo,

Its probably against the Emulator’s License unless they built their own from scratch, and a Windows PC is actually pretty overkill.

aesthelete,

I suspect they have their own emulators.

I mean they have old games available for new platforms and have had that for multiple generations. One of the things you get with a Nintendo online subscription is a switch catalog full of a bunch of SNES and NES games for play on the switch.

Ultraviolet,

In other words, emulators are crucial for game preservation? This shows that Nintendo knows that, and when they say it’s not the case, they’re not simply wrong, they’re lying.

null,

Have they said that’s not the case?

theblackpaul,

Not in so many words, but this is from their official website:

“While we recognize the passion that players have for classic games, supporting emulation also supports the illegal piracy of our products.”

Source: …nintendo.com/…/intellectual-property-%26-piracy-….

ParadoxSeahorse, do games w US government uses Halo images in a call to 'destroy' immigration, Microsoft declines to comment

Where the Trump-as-Master Chief post is merely cringeworthy, the Homeland Security message is flat-out dangerous. Comparing immigrants in the US to a parasitic alien life form that infects and annihilates advanced societies is not deeply offensive, it’s also rooted in the worst of human history: As seen in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch of the Holocaust and “cockroaches” in Rwanda, to name a couple recent examples, dehumanizing the “other” so you can more easily inflict cruelty, injustice, and horrors upon them is hardly a new technique, and the US government’s messaging was not subtle.

You might think that using imagery from one of its best known videogames in a call to “destroy” immigrants would prompt Microsoft to action, or at least to express some small modicum of disapproval. For now, at least, you would be wrong: Rather like Nintendo, which eagerly picks copyright fights it knows it can win but kept its mouth tightly zipped when Homeland Security used Pokémon to promote violent immigration raids, a representative told PC Gamer that “Microsoft does not have anything to share on this matter.”

Unexpectedly good political commentary from checks notes PC Gamer

Best_Jeanist,

Also if Trump is any Halo character, he’s the Prophet of Truth

ThatWeirdGuy1001,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

Nah truth was actually well spoken and was a decent leader. He’d be regret.

Best_Jeanist,

In Contact Harvest, Truth learns of a new species that has been discovered, and apparently the old Forerunner scanners say the humans have a lot of holy Forerunner artifacts that are indicated by this symbol:

https://discuss.online/pictrs/image/9d731eb1-cc3b-4b3b-ae52-cd7efc1f713f.png

Truth goes to talk to the old Forerunner AI kept prisoner in the basement and says “You guys didn’t provide a legend with your scanners, what’s this thing?”

Mendicant Bias the Forerunner AI explains, “Oh, that’s the symbol for Reclaimer. Reclaimers are the people my old bosses chose to inherit our empire after they all kicked the bucket.”

Truth says “Wait, you’re saying this is a planet full of demigods?”

Mendicant Bias is like “Yeah, haha, I guess if you insist on worshipping my creators as gods, then you’d better start worshipping these people instead from now on. They’re supposed to be your new bosses.”

Truth says “No, absolutely not. I worked much too hard to become a space pope and I’m not letting the second coming of Jesus get in the way of my plans. I’m going to declare a space jihad against these new aliens so nobody finds out they’re demigods.”

Anyway, the new species were humans and the Covenant declared a holy war and nearly wiped humanity out. Truth also ordered a genocide of the Sangheili after the Sangheili generals started asking a few too many tricky questions like “why are we having a space jihad against the humans they seem nice”

BreakerSwitch,

Honestly PC gamer has been pretty solid lately. Not sure why. Almost makes me nervous.

Ashtear,

Staff shake-up last year. Phil Savage and Tyler Wilde have really stepped it up and let their writers sound off.

Like any of the major sites though, the news side still has its share of articles generated from one-liners sourced from interviews ran elsewhere.

BreakerSwitch,

Good to know! I’ve just been having regular encounters with high quality content from there, rather than being a regular reader, so I haven’t had any awareness of anything in the background. In a world full of “gaming journalists have no place in an era of AI” this is really heartening to hear

inclementimmigrant, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

So a 4070 is a leaf blower to this asshole.

Well I’ll gladly not buy this game then.

kn0wmad1c,
@kn0wmad1c@programming.dev avatar

The game runs fine on my 4070 Super ¯_(ツ)_/¯

randombullet,

At what resolution, frame rate, and settings? Trying to get a good grasp of the performance if I ever buy it.

kn0wmad1c,
@kn0wmad1c@programming.dev avatar

5120x1440p
60-80fps

I followed this guide from gearbox for the settings, except I turned off volumetric cloud shadows and turned up DLSS to Quality

randombullet,

Nice. Thanks for the info. I’ll probably grab it in 3 years lol

kn0wmad1c,
@kn0wmad1c@programming.dev avatar

Lol hell yeah

flop_leash_973, (edited ) do games w Nexus Mods' new owners promise they won't monetise the site to death as users panic at the whiff of venture capital

Won’t monetize it “to death”, just right up to the line of death.

UnrefinedChihuahua,

Define "death."

  • Some lawyer, probably.
Atropos,

'E’s only mostly dead.

drasglaf,
@drasglaf@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’ll always be at 1HP from now on.

Telorand, do gaming w Discord confirms it's moving toward 'becoming a public company' as it hires a former Activision executive as its new CEO

Two alternatives:

  • Revolt. Has the Discord style down, made in Europe.
  • Matrix. Focused more on privacy.

Both have self-host options.

arsCynic, (edited )

Never heard of Revolt before, nice.

As a community I’d use Revolt if my game/mod/whatever is built upon extensive bot functionality, and Matrix if not.

TheRtRevKaiser,
@TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org avatar

I can’t tell for sure, but it doesn’t look like Revolt has voice chat yet? Which was what attracted my friend group to Discord initially.

Telorand,

I’m not sure, either. I haven’t used it yet, though that might come sooner than later after this announcement.

SweetCitrusBuzz,
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

Yeah, sadly most open source alternatives to discord either cannot do voice/video chat or cannot do it as well or seamlessly as discord did, partially because federated voice/video chat is not really a solved issue and partially because of money. Though even most of the centralised ones don’t really have voice/video chat that works well except for a few like Signal because they have the resources.

Another problem is it’s based on p2p a lot of the time, whereas I think things like discord partially use their servers to facilitate it, I’ll check on this though.

msage,

Jitsi

SweetCitrusBuzz,
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

Jitsi doesn’t have e2ee except in a few situations and they don’t seem interested in bringing e2ee to all platforms, or they can’t. It also is somewhat buggy with disconnects etc. Also it’s meant for one off calls or meetings compared to discord, but yeah, it’s okay for some situations.

Natanox,
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Matrix could’ve implemented it with classic TURNS for a while now so the feature at least is there for those needing it, but they dug their own hole instead and focused so hard on their idea of a protocol they created software that hardly can do anything, and what is should be able to do it does really badly. Also for some reasons it was more important to throw away he concepts of “Communities” and build… “Places”. Now Element is a convoluted mess that <Error Decrypting Second Part of this Message>

SweetCitrusBuzz, (edited )
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

Yeah, the people behind it always seemed to be more interested in getting corporate funding and thus gave corporations more what they wanted/needed instead of typical users and mods. This is part of the reason why I’m no longer interested in matrix main and more hard forks of it.

Inktvip,

Discord routes over their own servers and uses a private I3Dnet backbone to spread the signals across the world. The latter is one of the reasons why discord video is very good.

If discord did any p2p there would be stories all over of people getting ddos-ed after joining a voice call / screenshare.

In general, discords tech is pretty solid overall. The platform itself is just getting shittier.

SweetCitrusBuzz,
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

Thanks for the info!

Yeah, sadly.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Three, before there was Discord there was TeamSpeak and they’re still fighting

Mesophar,

Ventrilo would like a word as well

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Have they had any recent developments?

TeamSpeak has been working on a new TeamSpeak 6 client and server that allows users to set up effectively their own personal federation of gaming servers with text, voice, and video chat rooms in a modern cross platform client that supports Windows, Mac, Linux and mobile operating systems.

They’ve also built up their own infrastructure so less technical folks can directly rent servers from them rather than needing to buy through a third party.

Die4Ever, (edited )
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I’ve got 2 gaming Discords I want to bridge with Matrix (and maybe Revolt too?) can you suggest an instance? one is for Deus Ex Randomizer, and the other is for The 7th Guest fan club

Note that when you join a Space, you are not automatically joining all the rooms inside it.

this is going to be a bit painful for people who are used to Discord

you can search public rooms but not public Spaces? how do you find Spaces? they should’ve copied the good parts about Discord lol (EDIT: I found the way to search public Spaces, I guess it can’t search across instances though which is a shame, it probably wouldn’t require much disk space to index the name and description of every Matrix Space)

I don’t even see rooms linking back to their Space?

tchncs.de has a lot of public spaces, I created my account using my Google but it just assumed my username :(

moonleay,
@moonleay@feddit.org avatar

Small note on Revolt: You can’t chat with other people which are on other servers. Revolt does not federate and is not encrypted!

Dasnap, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

Crypto, followed by NFTs, followed by LLMs… The GPU market has been fucked for years now. Whenever something starts to drop off, another tech bro idea that requires 10,000 GPUs to process takes its place.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Truly just the brute force solution. Need a shitload of compute? GPUs can do it! No one stops to think if we really need it. It’s all about coulda, not shoulda. Yeah, ML and AI has a place, but big tech just thinks “slap an LLM everywhere”. Just such horseshit

omarfw,

The tech industry chases acquisition and investor money only now, not consumer demand or innovative achievement. It’s all just people trying to get rich, mostly so they can escape the effects of late stage capitalism.

merc,
@merc@sh.itjust.works avatar

The Crypto to AI transition was brutal. Just as demand for GPUs was coming down because people were starting to use ASICs to mine Bitcoin, along comes AI to drive up non-gaming demand again.

The only good news is that eventually when the AI bubble pops there will be massive R&D and manufacturing geared towards producing GPUs. Unless something else comes along… But really, I can’t see that happening because the AI bubble is so immense and is such an enormous part of the entire world’s economy.

LiveLM,

Petition to shoot the next tech bro with a “innovative” idea

amanneedsamaid, do gaming w The eagerness to grave dance on unpopular games has become a bad habit

Thats a weird way to say the industry’s been releasing shitty games.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Yeah this entire piece comes off as “LEAVE THE BILLIONAIRE COMPANY ALONE”

Butterbee,
!deleted4292 avatar

Won’t somebody think of the shareholders?!

thingsiplay, (edited )

The poor shareholders.

(Edit: I just read my own comment as “The poor shitholders”.)

Fisk400, do gaming w Atari vanquishes its most ancient foe by acquiring Intellivision, declares end to 'the longest-running console war in history'

Now they are both lifeless husks strung up in the office of an investment firm that is collecting their decomposition juices in a rusty bucket.

makingStuffForFun,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

Award for comment of the day.

lowleveldata, do games w The wild successes of Helldivers 2 and Baldur's Gate 3 send a clear message: Let devs cook

As if managers & stakeholders would listen to sense

Badeendje,
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

They should manage the organization and stay the fuck away from the product.

Only really mature product owners that understand what they are doing and LOVE the product they are making should be allowed near your product… and they will work with devs to make something wonderful.

Satisfactory, Valheim, manor lords, enshrouded… just a few examples of product that is loved. And it shows.

picnicolas,

But product make money… and we want money now.

zalgotext, do gaming w Bethesda says most of Starfield's 1000+ planets are dull on purpose because 'when the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there' but 'they certainly weren't bored'

Exploring is supposed to be a reward in itself

Oh yes, exploring 6 levels of nested menus is incredibly rewarding

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

Pro tip: if you just fast travel between Far Harbour and Nukaworld over and over you get the same experience as Starfield for free

stevedidWHAT,
@stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world avatar

Bahahaha

Heard if you 3D print a copy of no man’s sky you actually just get starfield

RememberTheApollo_, do games w Game marketing company takes down blog post bragging about how good it is at astroturfing Reddit after Reddit finds the post
@RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world avatar

r/gaming is shit. Bunch of sycophants all soft criticizing games like a review magazine afraid of offending the makers while talking about their playthrough. Go figure. Heaven help you if you have an actual opinion outside of the box, or don’t know some bit of terminology or lore about a game that is “common knowledge”.

theoneandonlyeggboi,

Don’t forget the lack of accountability among mods in reddit.

They can remove whatever they want, and we wouldn’t even know it was there. This alone causes people to self-censor.

brucethemoose,

That’s basically all large fandom/hobby subs now, in my experience.

And yeah, don’t forget the shallow memes or fear of arbitrary banning.

Pauce,

Yeah if they hit critical mass the quality drops significantly. I’ve bookmark a handful of my niche subs that haven’t hit that point yet but I saw it all the time over the years on there. Even something as straight forward as a liminal space, not as a term but there is a lot of writings on the topic, subreddit just turns into everybody posting pictures of there closets and and any old building.

87Six,

I was hated on Reddit for not hating the main character of Horizon Zero Dawn. God forbid someone enjoys a woman speaking.

vithigar,

I never understood the hate for Aloy. She was at worst bland with a pretty heavy helping of “I’m better at everything because I’m the main character”, but she’s hardly alone in that, and it doesn’t usually attract that much ire.

I really didn’t understand the complaints that she was unattractive or even outright ugly.

sugar_in_your_tea,

That fits pretty much every game where you control a main character. MCs rarely have a suitable explanation for why they’re so special beyond the rule of cool. Why can Gordon Freeman take out teams of special ops? Because he’s the MC. He’s a pretty bland character that doesn’t say anything, but he’s loved by millions.

krooklochurm,

Also Aloy was fucking hot.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Freckles AND a jawline? Unplayable.

Sturgist,
@Sturgist@lemmy.ca avatar

Second hand too busy to properly operate the controls eh?
I get it, I get it.

SippyCup,

She doesn’t have massive tits and dresses like you’d expect someone surviving in a robot dinosaur apocalypse to dress. So, not porn/isn’t sexy, therefore game bad.

It boggles my mind that people fucking care. It’s not like porn isn’t freely available on the Internet, and porn of those characters specifically isn’t easy to find. But if you’ve seen some of the criticism coming from that crowd about Ghost of Yotei it’ll make sense.

What’s sad is Yotei has plenty of faults they could criticize instead. But they can’t see past women as purely an object for sex so here we are.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

The degree to which people will idolize God of War’s Kratos and shit all over Horizon’s Aloy is crazy, given how these are functionally the same character.

I really didn’t understand the complaints that she was unattractive or even outright ugly.

She didn’t look like the silhouette on a truck’s mudflaps. So she’s hideous by default. But then nobody seems to qualify as “hot enough” anymore. Sidney Sweeny isn’t hot enough. Taylor Swift isn’t hot enough. Ciri from the Witcher isn’t hot enough. Freya Allan from the TV Show of the Witcher isn’t hot enough. Fucking Jessica Rabbit isn’t hot enough.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty sure Horizon Forbidden Dawn was well liked, despite having a woman speaking, but Horizon Forbidden West was hated on for changing the design of her.

87Six,

They didn’t really change the design as much as she was just not a teenager anymore…

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

They changed her design to fit some arbitrary anti-beauty standard. I don’t find the change egregious, but it’s obvious why it was done.

87Six,

Yea, nah, she’s beautiful in forbidden west, idk what kind of unrealistic beauty standards you expect.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t. I just recognise there’s a change and people didn’t like it. Nobody had issues with a woman being the main protagonist.

SippyCup,

I was banned from r/gaming for daring to go against that grain, and as I understand that is typical. It was about a game I liked too , just wished they had taken a few risks. I think it was Breakpoint. I had some very harsh things to say about the Ubisoft formula and how much better that game could have been if they had embraced the sneaky techie gameplay instead of the looter shooter bullshit they’d done instead. What’s funny to me is that shortly after release they updated the game to get rid of the looter shooter bullshit. So I clearly wasn’t alone.

RememberTheApollo_,
@RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world avatar

That sucks.

I left myself after being shouted down over criticizing a game for restricting player kits. The game was more fun without the restrictions, but fuck me for wanting more freedom in player classes.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Bunch of sycophants all soft criticizing games like a review magazine afraid of offending the makers while talking about their playthrough.

Almost as though its a heavily astroturfed community and many of the accounts are exactly this.

Heaven help you if you have an actual opinion outside of the box

That’s just social media in a nutshell. You’re either a loyal footsoldier or a radical insurgent. But you need to find your opposing faction and do battle with them. And then, if you get too confrontational, the Mods/Admins need to ban you for doing exactly what the site incentivizes.

voytrekk, (edited ) do games w Battlefield 6 players are crying out for a 'real' server browser, and it's about time we demanded the basic FPS feature that Call of Duty killed

It would be nice if we had both options. Let people matchmake for the default experience and let those that prefer custom servers to use those instead. There are problems with using only community hosted servers, such as game rules and less ideal admins.

That being said, the longevity that community servers offer is likely the reason they have been scrapped by EA. They want everyone to move to the next title that comes out like what people do with CoD.

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