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dan1101, w The Escapist: The Problem of Voting With Your Wallets | Cold Take

TLDW?

xkforce,

Most “normal” gamers dont care about the same things gamers that are more invested in the hobby do. I.e by and large, the “average” gamer isn’t voting with their wallets against the enshittening of the industry.

dan1101,

That’s what I feel, there are so many consumers now that products that aren’t good or exploit their users can still have a healthy market.

Chetzemoka,

There are so many consumers MONOPOLIES now that products that aren’t good or exploit their users can still have a healthy market.

FTFY

explodicle,

Can’t one just download Tux Racer or something?

Justdaveisfine,

Poorly summarized: People have already voted with their wallets, which is why live service games and microtransactions are prevalent - They’re catering to a market that buys them.

drspod,

TLDW: 8 minutes of vacuous navel-gazing which could have been distilled to the following 4 sentences:

But who involves themselves that much with games? Critics, journalists and enthusiasts. But what percentage of the whole do these people make? If you’re watching this video right now I imagine you’d be considered an outlying statistic a few steps away from the average demographic the industry continues to target.

conciselyverbose,

The funny part is people who will blindly watch any random word vomit on YouTube are who some of these trash games are targeting.

dan1101, w COVID And Working From Home Made Starfield Development "Very, Very Slow," Todd Howard Says

That’s pretty obvious from the planet surface and travel system. Apparently virtually every pixel of a planet surface is another procedurally generated map, but the UI and gameplay make them hard to access and not really useful anyway.

simple, w Steam players hate NBA 2K24 almost as much as they hate Overwatch 2

Yeah but every NBA game gets flooded with negative reviews and these people will buy it again next year. It doesn’t matter how many negative reviews it has if it sells well.

I always have a laugh when half of these reviews are “wow guys this poorly rated game that everyone told me is garbage turned out to be garbage. They’re making the same game every year!”, fast forward to them posting the same review next year.

WarmSoda,

I got Madden 22 for free and for awhile I was enjoying it. It was my first Madden game since the 360. So I start going to forums for the game, and every single post was about how bad the game is, highlighting ridiculous bugs, shitty AI, missing features.

Then details about Madden 23 started to come out and everyone that was tearing 22 apart was absolutely in love with every little thing that was shown.

I stopped reading those forums. It was surreal.

GreenMario,

Civilization series is notorious for that too. Civ -1 is always the best of the series and current Civ is the worst.

WarmSoda,

At least civ tries new things. But yeah the constant release of a new game with less features is pretty common.

Slwh47696,

Man I remember being on the Gamefaqs forums back in like 2005 or so, and people were complaining about this exact scenario back then. Some things never change

______,

I know someone who routinely preorders games and constantly gets disappointed and never fails to preorder again.

Triple A games most of the time. You can probably guess which franchises.

H2207, w COVID And Working From Home Made Starfield Development "Very, Very Slow," Todd Howard Says

Hopefully we’ll see a couple of those “plans” crop up during the game’s life cycle, and hopefully a couple (hundred) bug fixes.

Plus official mod tools but I’m not too eager for them, I have full faith the modding community will perform miracles even without them.

kilodelta, w Starfield user score drops to "mostly positive" on steam

Is it just me, or do the planets look like they have no lighting at all? (Playing on Xbox Series X)

AllonzeeLV,

They look completely lit to me, there’s just very little shade in most cases. PC RTX 2070. Stuck in the 30fps club with you though.

Ranvier,

There seems to be a bug with the main star/sun not showing up in some amd cards. I don’t recall if Xbox has this glitch, but it does use an amd card as well so seems possible. Hopefully Bethesda or amd or whoever is responsible for the bug can fix it soon.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

That’s a bug.

Izzy, w COVID And Working From Home Made Starfield Development "Very, Very Slow," Todd Howard Says
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People for once not being overworked has made it clear that the scope of modern AAA video games is unsustainable.

remus989,

Yep. Not every game needs to be a huge open world (or in this case galaxy.) Give me tight well written games that are complete on launch, that’s all I’m asking for.

Alto,
@Alto@kbin.social avatar

Titanfall 2's campaign is one of the best examples of this. Not very long, but high quality and ridiculously fun

108,
@108@kbin.social avatar

Trust me

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m playing Titanfall 2 multiplayer right now.
Best sub $10 game in a while.

Alto,
@Alto@kbin.social avatar

Words can't describe how happy I am that the official servers are back. One of if not the best FPS games in the last decade.

HidingCat,

I got this on sale, because I liked the original games premise but didn't want to buy a MP-only game. I've yet to play it though. XD I hope it lives up to expecations.

Dariusmiles2123,

Yeah a really great game for really cheap.

I haven’t tried the multiplayer but I loved the story.

Spudwart,

We really went from

2D platformer saturated To 3D platformer saturated To FPS saturated To Sandbox Saturated To 50+ hour $70 incomplete open world saturated

IHeartBadCode,
@IHeartBadCode@kbin.social avatar

scope of modern AAA video games is unsustainable

Helpful hint, it's not just video game programming. Those hijacked gas pipelines in the US, unsecured SCADA systems weren't because every sysadmin was falling asleep, it's because nobody pulling the trigger wanted to listen to the sysadmins screaming that blindly deploying shit without audits, was a bad idea.

In pretty much every single technological failure, there's usually a common thread. Someone did (or forgot to do something) in the name of profit.

ConsistentAlgae,

Sysadmin - can confirm.

Have a VP wanting to ram a newly acquired Europe entity through a migration and I am just yelling in every meeting about regulations. No one gives a shit so I’m just making them sign everything they say. CYA in full deployment.

TheDarkKnight,

On the acquired side, currently going through integration. We had a looking date to cutover a major portion of our systems and it was absolutely only a fail forward situation if it went south. Surprisingly, they recognized and listened to us saying it wasn’t ready and needed more time…got us six more months but definitely a rare moment from my experience in IT. Hopefully a sign that the new company knows what they are doing.

elbarto777,

I can side with what you’re saying, but I don’t understand how forgetting something in the name of profit in other industries has anything to do with the pace of game development.

ConsistentAlgae,

It fails downwards. And I know that doesn’t make sense but when you push something through as fast as possible everything below it falters.

QA is garbage, QC is garbage, development becomes garbage because of those fast timelines because something has to be cut. You can’t do everything you need to do with shorter timelines - and that’s where it becomes “in the name of profit”.

elbarto777,

You’re describing the state of application/game development, yes.

But again, what was that rant involving other industries about?

ConsistentAlgae, (edited )

Just that it’s fairly similar across other industries. It’s a pretty common thread in most industries when people try to force things through without planning properly.

Also I wasn’t ranting about other industries, just making a note that it occurs everywhere. Profit for profit sake has made a lot of industries worse, including the gaming industry.

Edit: do you think QA/QC and development work only occurs in the gaming industry?

PenguinTD,

Many modern AAA games has become glorified toilet paper rolls. They tried to keep manufacture then in hopes to milk everything possible, then when you are at the end of roll they hype and sell you a new one. Make them feel like you absolutely have to play the next installment to get a closure or something new branching out.(prequel/sequel/reboot/timelines/etc.)

It was unsustainable at the pace and amount pre-covid, unhealthy for hardcore gamers as well. We have to actively not buying and playing new games cause I can play certain amount per day/week.

With covid and post covid, I actually finished more games compare to before. Well, the extra 2 hours not needed to commute I can do whatever I wanted.

Thebazilly, w Starfield Is Seemingly Missing Entire Stars (the local 'sun') When Running On AMD Radeon GPUs

Now it is just Field.

poke, w [Rumor] Embracer reportedly considering selling Borderlands developer Gearbox

I hope Risk of Rain makes it out of this alright.

dudewitbow,

Gearbox only owns the IP, not the studio. So although ROR could die with gearbox, theres nothing stopping the dev from making a spiritual sucessor.

nanoUFO, w Roblox cancels videogame awards presentation after 'potential security concern'
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s a shame I bet a lot of people were very interested in the new dating system they were about to unveil. /s

nanoUFO, (edited ) w [Rumor] Embracer reportedly considering selling Borderlands developer Gearbox
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

My hope is that people leave and make a new studio and some new IP’s. These large publishers buying everything and then running into the ground due to endess growth is tiring.

kugmo, w [Rumor] Embracer reportedly considering selling Borderlands developer Gearbox
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Pipe dream, but sell Gearbox and try to keep the Duke Nukem IP.

nanoUFO, w Civvie11: TURBO OVERKILL - Saw of Theseus
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Apparently you can install linux on these things but I rather just support valve and have a polished linux experience along with giving money to a company that is improving linux gaming.

sirico, w Steam's Oldest User Accounts Turn 20, Valve Celebrates With Special Digital Badges - IGN
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I only signed up to play hl2 I think before that I used keys and CDs for things like ground zero

jcit878,

I remember a work friend burnt HL2 on cd for me and the only way to make it work was he also gave me his steam login. and the dude had a ripper username I still remember to this day, even though I havnt seen him in nearly 20 years.

mrpoo

hyperhopper, w Starfield overtakes Skyrim with concurrent Steam players

No duh, it’s the new space Skyrim. Not really news or unexpected.

Greylock, w Steam's Oldest User Accounts Turn 20, Valve Celebrates With Special Digital Badges - IGN
@Greylock@kbin.social avatar

aw, only 19 for me!

chaogomu,

Mine was 19 years, but I was military and got sent overseas for a few years. When I came back, I hadn't actually logged in for the entire time and my account had been reset.

iMastari,

In November it will be 19 years for me as well.

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