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TommySoda, do games w "I don't know" how much Borderlands 4 will cost, Gearbox boss says, but it had "more than twice the development budget for Borderlands 3" and "it might be" $80 like some Nintendo and Xbox games

Borderlands 3 was barely worth $60 and I still waited for it to go on sale.

Lightsong,

I bought it in Fall 2024 for like 25 bucks with all DLCs. So I’ll wait year or two with BL4 no problem, there’s plenty other games I can play. I never buy brand new games.

Jaysyn, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version
@Jaysyn@lemmy.world avatar

Oh look. Yet another reason to continue my Ubisoft boycott.

uis,

Boycott doesn’t work, grab pitchforks and torches(EU citizens only).

boonhet, (edited )

Well Ubisoft’s stock has tanked hard over the years as they’ve been doing shady things.

I’ve been very tempted to try their new Assassins Creed, but hey, I’ve managed to refrain from doing so.

I tried to sign that petition but for some reason I couldn’t. Don’t remember why.

uis,

Stock isn’t revenue.

boonhet,

It’s what the shareholders care about though.

uis,

Unless they want dividends

VitoRobles,

Oh boy. If you look at Ubisoft’s stock prices, it’s way down.

Like high 80s in 2018. And now it’s 8, roughly 1/10th if it’s value.

They aren’t going to survive another few years at this rate without some bangers. How stupid their leadership has been, with NFTs, with their sexual harassment lawsuits, with bonehead anti-consumer practices is just accelerating this downfall.

Jaysyn,
@Jaysyn@lemmy.world avatar

See, boycotts do in fact work. They may not work instantly, but they do work if it’s your actual customer base doing the boycott. The Bud Light boycott also worked. The Target boycott currently has their stock in a tailspin, regardless of what they are claiming are the company’s actual issues.

Caesium, do games w Pokemon Legends Z-A's visuals aren't "great" say former Nintendo marketing leads, but hope Switch 2 could allow Game Freak to "go back to the drawing board"

Maybe Game Freak shouldn’t be the guys making Pokémon anymore

echodot,

Have they discovered terrain yet, or is the landscape still a flat plane?

LongboardingLad, do gaming w Popular Female Skyrim Modder Has Abandoned Her Work Due to Daily Harrassment

Stuff like this is why I don’t tell people I game. The Gamer Stink is real and I don’t want to be guilty by association. Seriously, go touch grass. The things that you’re denigrating someone else for are pixels and code on a computer. Find some way to not be garbage humans.

Her music is interesting. Hope she ends up happier

HubertManne, do gaming w Publishers are absolutely terrified "preserved video games would be used for recreational purposes," so the US copyright office has struck down a major effort for game preservation

can you imagine the horror if card game copy-writes were not enforced and people just opened up a pack of cards and played them willy nilly!!!

Mike1576218,

Not that it means a lot, but any inndvations it the “pack of card” games lately?

Faydaikin, do gaming w Starfield design lead says players are "disconnected" from how games are actually made: "Don't fool yourself into thinking you know why it is the way it is"
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

Gotta love Bethesda going all “You think you want it, but you really don’t.” Like Blizzard back in the days.

I have to admit, I find the entire thing immensely entertaining.

sukhmel,

What game did Blizzard try this with? I’m just too ignorant about their games beyond Warcraft and Diablo, or was it that WoW add-on that killed WoW popularity back in the days?

Faydaikin,
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

It was about WoW Classic. Here’s the clip

But in the end WoW Classic did indeed become a thing.

sukhmel,

So, they were right about knowing better, after all 😉

I actually think that this is a marketing fallacy some (?) big corporations use to create a self fulfilling prophecy of what people want. Wery rarely is it really a novel thing that just requires users to understand how good it is, very often it’s just gaslighting

Faydaikin,
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

In Bethesdas case, they’ve been going down this road for a while now and have just refused to listened to any criticism along the way.

Eventually that turned into F76 and Starfield.

The fact that they are telling people “they are wrong for finding the game boring” is funny. But that Beth won’t learn anything from this is just sad.

tacosanonymous, do games w Destiny 2's new $15 "Starter Pack" is a bunch of junk and the last thing the MMO needed right now
@tacosanonymous@lemm.ee avatar

Bungie always seems to forget the “service” portion of GaaS.

They favor the FoMO model.

Macaroni_ninja, do games w Here are all the Golden Joystick Awards 2023 winners
@Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

Really there was nothing better than Starfield on Xbox this year? Smh

andrew_bidlaw,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

At least it’s a new game. PS got RE4 remaster. It’s not bad but funny.

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a remake. But yeah, not different enough to justify calling it a totally new game like you can with 2 or 3.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Dead Space was on the nominations list…

WarlordSdocy, do games w Cities: Skylines 2 "absolutely cannot" have the decade of DLC features that the original game added | GamesRadar+

This is the classic problem with all paradox games that I don’t really have a solution for. Like as players we want them to support the game for a long time and keep updating it, but unless that’s through dlcs then they can’t really do that without getting paid somehow. The other alternatives are just not doing any updates and releasing a full new game every couple years which would probably have less features added compared to doing dlcs. Or having a subscription that you pay to get new updates which while I’m personally fine with I know a lot of people aren’t. So that just leaves the current strategy of constantly doing dlcs and every once in a while releasing a new game and bringing over as many dlc features as they can to the new one while not making the development time unreasonable.

TheActualDevil,

There’s one other option:

They could make games outside newer versions of the same game. Game studios used to (and many still do) make a game, put it out, then get started making a whole different game. Even with the modern ability to update games,

  1. Put game out
  2. Update game to deal with unforeseen bugs found once the masses have access
  3. Maybe put out 1 DLC if you want
  4. Make a new game now. A different game.
Cethin,

But they point the comment above is making is that the years of support add a bunch of features that wouldn’t exist otherwise. Sure, they could just not. Why would they do that though if they have a team who knows how to work on a thing and people willing to pay for it.

For example, BG3 exists because the studio continued to make games in the same style in the same engine for a very long time. They became absolute experts in it, and continuously improved their tools and techniques. You don’t get that by constantly making new different games.

bighi,

To be honest, I’d prefer for them to keep expanding a game I like. That’s what kept me playing SC1 for the past 65 years (or however long it has been since the game has been released).

Not_Alec_Baldwin,

Star Citizen only feels like it’s been in alpha for 65 years.

AngryCommieKender,

I think they were referring to StarCraft 1. Hence the 1.

billiam0202,

No, clearly they’re talking about Sim City on SNES!

Rentlar,

That’s the FIFA, Madden model… release a game, fix a couple things, improve a thing here and there, pull a new roster in and voilà! This year’s new sports game.

SchizoDenji,

They can transfer a person’s purchased DLCs to next game.

eluvatar,

That would require that DLC to work in the new game. Which would limit what you can do in the new game to make it compatible. Not going to happen.

Not_Alec_Baldwin,

Yeah people don’t seem to be understanding that this is a technical and pragmatic issue, not a business decision.

It’s the “new and improved” problem. If it’s new, it’s not improved. And if it’s improved, it’s not new.

If you want a new, cutting edge game, you aren’t just improving the old game. So the old stuff likely won’t be compatible.

If you want an improvement/extension of the old game, you won’t be getting a shiny new game.

They made the choice to make a shiny new game but they need to try to prevent the inevitable backlash from people being upset that they’re favorite X/Y/Z is missing.

eluvatar,

Yeah it’s very different these days. In the past DLC was just content (like extra levels) and people don’t expect that in the new game (maybe more levels than when the first game came out), but now DLC usually adds features as well as levels and people want all the features in the new game too.

SchizoDenji,

I’m not saying that they literally have to use the same files. But they can transfer the purchases.

Cethin,

You’re saying remake all the DLCs and not have people pay for it I assume. How the hell are they going to afford that? That’s not mentioning they might not want to make identical DLCs, and many of the features from them are included in vanilla now.

SchizoDenji,

They aren’t some poor indie devs who are bootstrapping themselves, dude.

Cethin,

When did I say that? I just let you know Paradox aren’t the developers like you seem to think. They still need to keep the lights on though. Honestly, tiny indie devs can afford to do crazy things because there are a lot fewer people on the line who need to get paid. The larger the studio, the more careful they have to be. An indie game can run on passion alone.

Melkath, (edited ) do games w Payday 3 is 14 days away and the devs have already revealed a full year's worth of DLC

Just got access to the beta and I gotta say, I was hyped and now I'm not so sure.

I like the vaulting. The weapons feel a bit crisper.

The new skill system seems weird. The cops are now bullet sponges.

Beyond that, I don't see a major difference. Certainly not enough for me to leave behind my 200 bucks worth of DLC in PD2.

xcxcb, (edited )

I have access too and it looks like online matchmaking is not optional in this one. It’s going to be a hard pass from me especially when randos can’t get past the first mission on the easiest difficulty.

Also the gunplay is not great, the iron sights feel awful to use especially.

Melkath,

Ya, there is zero local play. 100% drm.

You have to play on their servers.

You can ready up the second you get into an empty lobby, but I don't see any way to just simply choose single player.

That means that if their matchmaking system is down, you don't get to play. And funny enough, their matchmaking system was down all night last night.

My overall largest gripe though is that in PD2, I love how if you are accurate with headshots, helmets pop with a single tap and you can just mow through 30 cops in seconds. In PD3, its taking me 2 to 5 headshots after the first wave. On the easiest setting.

UnderpantsWeevil, do games w After Apple originally announced the first version of Halo in 1999, Xbox apparently called Bungie and said "'Steve Jobs can't have that. We're going to buy you.'"
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Having a nightmare vision of the future where Apple releases it’s own gaming console

radix,
@radix@lemmy.world avatar

The Pippin 2.

deranger,

How is this a nightmare vision? Proprietary bullshit, which is what consoles are, is what Apple does better than the others. M series chips seem ideal in terms of hardware, and a consolized Mac mini would be pretty dope.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

It doesn’t even exist and I’m already getting insufferably smug Apple heads telling me it’s the best one.

brucethemoose,

M chips are super expensive. They’re optimized for low clockspeed/idle efficiency and pay through the nose for cutting edge processes, whereas most gaming hardware is optimized for pure speed/$, with the smallest die area and cheapest memory possible, at the expense of power efficiency.

And honestly the CPU/GPU divide over traces is more economical. “Unified memory” programming isn’t strictly needed for games at the moment.

And, practically, Apple demands very high margins. I just can’t see them pricing a console aggressively.

deranger, (edited )

Good points. Mac mini is pretty cheap though, cheaper than most consoles.

Wispy2891,
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

It is “cheap” because they are hoping that someone is stupid enough to pay the upgrades like $200 for 256gb of extra SSD. Or that it later leads to purchasing more Apple devices.

It’s a gateway drug

Clent,

I love this Apple hater threads. You people are so unhinged about this stuff. It’s great!

Wispy2891,
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

Charging $200 for having 256gb of extra SSD space on a $700 computer (cost for them: $2) is textbook definition of scam.

The price is actually good for the Mac mini but clearly they sat on a table for hours discussing how they can fuck the end user like “and for the SSD, let’s make a board that LOOKS LIKE a standard M.2 drive, has almost the same dimensions and connector, BUT we don’t include a controller on it, so it’s not electrically compatibile with existing drives and we can charge a 10000x markup on it”. And all the marketing managers in the room started clapping

Clent,

It’s the part where you have to resort to asserting that it works because people are stupid, that is hilarious. It’s so wonderfully reductionist.

brucethemoose,

The base Mac Mini is not super powerful. Physically, the silicon comparable to AMD Strix Point, which you’d find in any AMD laptop.

I am not trying to rag on Apple here: their stuff is fine. It’s ridiculously power efficient. It’d be beyond excellent for a handheld like the Steam Deck, or a VR headset.

…But a plug in gaming console? That’s more ‘M4 Pro’ silicon. And what they charge for that speaks for itself.

LifeInMultipleChoice,

I mean didn’t Microsoft just bring Apple back from going bankrupt around that time. Had to have competition so they wouldn’t become declared a monopoly. So you bail out your friends

Coelacanth, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I want to finish it some day but I also kind of get sick of it quickly whenever I try to play it for extended periods and actually do main story missions.

Fucking around in the open world and fishing and hunting and all that is great though.

thenose,
@thenose@lemmy.world avatar

Soooo many cutscenes

TheRealKuni,

I was the same way. I suggest you do finish it though, especially if you’ve done some of the side missions along the way. I don’t want to spoil anything, but the way they work actions you made, missions you did, and choices you took into the end is really cool and it made me get all verklempt.

the_crotch,

The progression of Dutch’s mental state, the condition of the gang, and Arthur’s changing attitudes towards life are really well written. The story is long but it’s wonderfully done.

Plebcouncilman, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 dev calls Randy Pitchford's $80 Borderlands 4 comments "gross" because it implies the FPS is more important than "making it day to day"

I’ll buy this when it’s $20 with all expansions in two years.

It’s not because of Randy Bobandy here, him making an inane, alienating comment is his gimmick at this point and should be expected. It’s t because I found that if I play a game on release I end up playing the worst version of the game. And then I never play expansions because I rarely replay games and I’m not about to play an expansion to a game I haven’t played in a year without replaying the base game again.

So I buy games a year late, at half the price. I love gaming.

Zulu,

Love doing this with modern atlus games. Cant wait to buy the “royal golden reloaded remaster collection” edition for $20 from a used/third party retailer.

cyberpunk007, do games w "I don't know" how much Borderlands 4 will cost, Gearbox boss says, but it had "more than twice the development budget for Borderlands 3" and "it might be" $80 like some Nintendo and Xbox games

Aaaaaand I’ll wait for a sale. If I consider it in the first place. Gaming is so saturated, all these days 1 buyers are fucking us over.

To these orgs, I say, bro - have you seen my backlog?

tatann,

Even worse than my backlog, there are all the comfort games I play every few years and which takes me months to complete (cause some of them are fairly long like The Witcher 3) and thanks to my crappy memory, multiple choices and mods I can enjoy them as much every time

cyberpunk007,

Been having that itch for witcher 3 again. What an amazing adveture

tatann,

I have trouble letting 2 years go by not playing it, I can’t wait for the remake of the first one

cyberpunk007,

I made it so far in that one, I think, then I practically skipped tw2 and went straight for 3 and soon became so hooked. It’s crazy how huge and dense that world is, with scenery that never looks repeated.

tatann,

Ooh you should give the 2nd another chance, they f’ed up the combat (I think they wanted to copy Souls games) but the story is great and honestly it still looks fine for a 2011 game

It’s more war/politics oriented, and the story is about clearing your name and recovering memory and less about saving someone/the world

If the combat part is the issue, some mods can improve that (or make you hard to kill)

PancakeTrebuchet, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Things like this make it really easy for me to not buy anything from Ubisoft.

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