Dremor

Dremor, 27 dni temu

Language 😠.

Yes, I know I’m kinda strict on that, but there are no reason here to come to insults.

You got a good point here, and the message you answered to got downvoted to oblivion.

If you disagre, downvote away, don’t feed the possible troll with your anger.

Dremor, 27 dni temu

Maybe because all AI generated assets got removed?

Honestly, as a programmer that uses extensively AI to debug, and do various tedious tasks like unit tests, I think the whole anti-AI craze of late is more bullshit than sane arguments.

It’s an invaluable tool for many cases, and as soon is it is not used to replace someone, I don’t see the problem. They where used by artists, to be used as placeholders while working on the gme, not by executives seeking to make some more bucks by not hiring anyone.

They forgot some of them in the final game? Shit happens. You cannot expect someone to go through every single texture in a game that probably got thousands, if not tenths of thousands, just to make sure none was forgotten.

Anyway, that’s blown way out of propositions, and feels more like some people trying to get views by hating on something popular than having real concerns about it. Especially since Blue Prince does use AI assets in the final product, and strangely no one bats an eye.

Dremor, 27 dni temu

It’s is still their own artistic sensibility that made the art, not the AI. You will always be inspired by other things while doing anything requiring creativity.
Would being inspired by Picasso suddenly make one art worthless? Of course not. So why would being inspired by an AI generated example make it any different ?

Dremor, 26 dni temu (edited 26 dni temu)

Not before being unknowingly sold to the public

Well, if that was truly forgotten in the game at release, and removed once discovered, I don’t see any problem. The textures that are used now are 100% hand made by actual artist, to my knowledge.

My problem with AI is its heavy usage of plagiarism and vast degree of power consumption, as well as the price hikes its caused for many computer parts.

I entirely agree with you there.
The plagiarism problem is in my opinion partly resolved by open datasets (OpenOrca, and the like), which means the user has the possibility of choosing to not rely on plagiarism. Problem is that the models trained with those dataset are rarely available on public platform, which is another reason why I use my own infrastructure.
Personally I use Mistal-7B-OpenOrca on a locally run Ollama, which reside in my homelab.
The power consumption is a problem, and the reason why I use my own dedicated hardware for anything related to AI (which has also the advantage of heating my home a little bit, so nothing is lost 😆).
I even invested in a laptop with dedicated AI hardware to be able to make it as efficient as possible. And of course got hit by the AI taxe, albeit I was lucky to get 32Go DDR5 at only twice the usual rate instead of five time the usual rate as it is currently the case.

Whenever anything is attempting to make money, it should be put under the highest scrutiny. It does not matter who’s pushing it. Similarly, I find it odd that we’re assuming the inner workings of Clair Obscur’s workplace

You are partly right. But when machine replaced some of the human hard labor in industry, we welcomed it. Who would want to make a car with a hammer when an hydraulic press is available? AI is a tool that should be used to ease the burden of doing repetitive small task in order to focus on what’s one want to do. Can I blame someone for using placeholder texture, being AI or from an asset store, instead of spending days making the rocks look just right when you aren’t even sure the project will ever be funded?

But I don’t think they the the kind of guys to seek wealth or fame. They put their energy in a project they believed in, can we blame them to have used the tools they had in hand to try making the most of their limited budget ?

If you replaced AI here with anything defamatory, like pictures of penises placed by an enraged employee after being fired, then even having a few would be devastating on sales. The single fact that we’re okay with a few means that, over time, that bar will likely be pushed further down the road “oh, it’s just this one character that practically never shows up” “oh, it’s just the skyboxes, they’re basically not noticeable anyway” “who cares if the early access uses AI voices? They’ll be replaced eventually!”

You’d be surprised how often it happen for former angry employees to do that. We even had example in some Disney, with very explicit scenes even going all the way to customers.
I never said that they where OK with it, just that no one can be expected to check every little texture without being expected to miss some of them. Human are prone to fatigue, and I saw many bugs going in production due to such errors of judgement.
As for using AI during early access, IMO it depends on the size of the project. And one man project ? Totally fine, even after launch. A full 400 men project from a big publisher? Not so much, they have to mean to do it by hand. Especially considering how expensive they sell it afterward.
Clair Obscur being a mostly 30 men project (plus some occasional extras), I, personally, don’t see AI usage as a problem as soon as it is sparsely used.

I assure you, AI is not popular. Studies have shown that AI is causing people more concern than excitement Not the most reputable source, but oh well

I’m speaking about Clair Obscur, not AI. Don’t you feel surprised that as soon as they get a big boost from the game award, you see people left and right creating dramas for whatever reason they find? Some forgotten AI texture in the final game? Really?

Blue Prince does use AI assets No it didn’t

My apology for jumping on that bandwagon. I’m unfortunately not totally immune to that either 😅

On the other hand, IGA did forbid AI on the whole project pipeline, and if I find it a bit overblown, it is their choice, and I’ll respect that.
What baffles me is all the hate Clair Obscur got because of that. The vast majority was made by hand, and the game is good. If the story was AI gen, or the music, I’d agree, but a fucking texture? In which way would it suddenly make a multiple year project shit like some pretends?

Dremor, 26 dni temu

I said “being inspired by”, not “using”. There is a difference.

Dremor, miesiąc temu

You may want to rephrase and clarify, and probably typecheck you text.

Dremor, miesiąc temu

Funny anecdote, one of Reddit server was named after that game : Untitled Goose Server. That was a pool on the gold only sub, I was the one proposing that name.

Dremor, miesiąc temu

Damn, already almost at 500! 😃

Dremor, miesiąc temu (edited miesiąc temu)

Note to the community :
self promotion is allowed on this community, what we disallowed is excessive self promotion.
Things like multiple post in a short timespan, not disclosing ones link to a specific game, or anything that is made to manipulate the community to make a game look better or more popular that it is really. Sames goes for new account posting ads to games, never to be seen again

So let’s check here:

• He disclosed his link to the game : yes
• Posted about it multiple times is a short time : I didn’t see anything like that, but feel free to report if it is the case
• Is active : yes
• No suspicious link : yes

In my book, this is 100% legit. No need to report.

Dremor, miesiąc temu

He is not making a expection to himself. Self promotion is allowed, if not excessive or from newly created account.

Dremor, miesiąc temu (edited miesiąc temu)

While I kinda admire your dedication at writing such lengthy insult, I’d like to remind you this is not an acceptable behaviour here.

Dremor, miesiąc temu (edited miesiąc temu)

Considering your own argument length, I don’t think he’d need to invest more energy to make a more compelling one to counter yours.

So either elaborate yours, or go look at at the concept of “Bullshit‑asymmetry principle” (and associated concepts) when you’ll have time.

Dremor, miesiąc temu (edited miesiąc temu)

Doomsider sure explained it better than you did, and he did defend his opinion, which you didn’t. Throwing strawmen arguments and insults around doesn’t do anything to allow meaningful conversations.

Dremor, miesiąc temu

FFXIV works great with a controller, I don’t see why GW2 wouldn’t with a similar gamepad oriented UI.

Dremor, 2 miesiące temu

“We are responsible for what we say and what we do, not the interpretation others do out of them.”

Please do not assume your understanding of the underlying argument has to be correct, or you’d risk falling to the strawman fallacy.

As a moderator I like to see arguments around games, but I don’t want to see them degenerate into fight.

So could your rephrase without assuming your opponent intention without solid proofs?

Dremor, 3 miesiące temu

19th of September 2025, seem fresh enough to me, and the game isn’t the same. Maybe they once again changed their policy.

But the fact that it wasn’t NSFW at first may have worked in their defavor, that’s true.

Dremor, 3 miesiące temu

Maybe. We’ll see. I didn’t see it on the community, I through, considering how active the subject was at first, that it would be of interest to the community.

Dremor, 3 miesiące temu

Hi there little moth 😄

Dremor, 3 miesiące temu

I’ve been playing since the Little Prince season. Once a moth, always a moth 😆.

Dremor, 4 miesiące temu

Well, now that everyone who want to play day one bought it, the only remaining market are the people of !patientgamers that are waiting for a sale to buy it.

And considering it is on the game pass, 4.4 million is quite good.

Dremor, 4 miesiące temu (edited 4 miesiące temu)

That’s indeed what we asked to do next time for big events. But when no such big event occurs, it’s OK.

In my opinion, the following trailers are acceptable :

• Announcement of a new game -> so we can start talking about that game
• Announcement of end of early access or of game release (like Hades 2 recently) -> So we can talk about the game at its release state
• Major update of updates of a game (as soon as it isn’t too often) -> So we can discuss how that specific update make that game evolve, for better or worse. I’d honestly still prefer those one to be kept to their dedicated communities, but one from time to time won’t kill anyone.

Globally, that’s also a way to advertise dedicated communities for that specific game, so I think that’s alright.

We’ll discuss all of this with the incoming community rules update.

Dremor, 4 miesiące temu

Incredibly cursed. Who asked for this.

Their shareholders, I suppose.

Dremor, 4 miesiące temu

Same here, but the performances are abysmal on the Deck (15-20 fps on low), and crashes on every map changes. I’m gonna wait next week to see if it goes better with the first few fixes, and then I’ll chose if I refund it or not.

Dremor, 4 miesiące temu

Until recently I’d have agreed with you, but some recently released games (like E33) are either locked to very low settings (and still has bad framerate despite that), or even run like shit (Sword of the Sea) even on low.

So yeah, I’m kinda feeling the need for an upgrade right now, and as much as I hate Microsoft, depending on how it will cost I may be tempted… If it runs Bazzite well.

Dremor, 4 miesiące temu

I do already have a pretty powerfull desktop already (5800X3D, 32 Go RAM and RX 6800), but I just love the Deck form factor.
Especially that now I can play at work, which makes my noon brake a lot less boring. It is kinda harder to bring my desktop around 😅.

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

I hope you are not as sentimental as I am, or you may need to check your Kleenex reserve.

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

Meow !

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

Thread this one being a cross-post of. 😆

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

… Or installing Linux.

flyes away

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

Damn that was interesting. 😃

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

!reallyshittycopper

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

Deck perf are currently atrocious, but I’ll still buy it for later. I still have to finish the first one anyway.

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

So many people redeeming for a friend. 😆

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

Hey, we don’t kink shame here 😆.

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

Shadow of the Colossus should be in there too. It has pioneered orchestral music in video games and gad a huge impact on them as a whole.

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

To my limited knowledge, it was the first games where true orchestral music was used. It was influential enough to be remade for PS3 and PS4, there are few games to get such a treatment.

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

Possible. Might warrant more reserch on my part. Still, there is very few games to be remade for 3 consecutive console generations.

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

From my quick search, looks like it would be The Lost World: Jurassic Park, in August of 1997. Total Annihilation was released in September of 1997.

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu (edited 5 miesięcy temu)

That’s probably why it is pinned, to burry it away from everyone eyes 🙄.

I had multiples report about the various topics that popped over the weekend, because how many of them there was on a span of a few days. Moderating them was a nightmare, so I tried to politely ask everyone to consolidate on the same thread. Somehow it ended up in insults, so I had to close it. First I considered selecting another topic, but most of the remainding ones were to foccused on one part of the issue to do such thing.

Thus, the megathread.

Trust me, I’m not a fan of the concept either, mostly because how time costly it is to maintain it, but that the price to pay to not have to spend twice the time sorting repports on various threads.

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu (edited 5 miesięcy temu)

Nerd

Oh~. The very foundation of my existance was shook by that insight. Go on, tell me more…

No linking errors on my end. Skill issue probly

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7f6f995d-0f35-4c77-89dd-3c37f9c7dc22.jpeg

Or software issue. Looks like my dialer do not like that first link.

You DMed me after removing my second attempt

I don’t see anything on my previous post stating otherwhise.

This is just like the time you said “Harriett Tubman sucks and was an idiot” and then got mad at me for saying you suck in response

I don’t remember that one, care to provide a link ? If it was removed, mods should still be able to see it, even if you may not.

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu

Someone really want to make me cry~. Of laughter that is.

Dremor, 5 miesięcy temu (edited 5 miesięcy temu)

Later.

Edit : As it is the end of my watch, here you go. Now come back when you’ll have grown up a bit.