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Someplaceunknown, do gaming w The worst of both worlds
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This did not have to be live action

Apeman42,
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This did not have to be live action

kyub, (edited ) do gaming w Gamers Above 30, What Older Games Would You Still Recommend to Younger Gamers?

Generally, any top rated game from that period which doesn’t rely on “realistic” graphics but instead offers very good gameplay and is kind of timeless and ages well. For example, you shouldn’t play the original System Shock 1 anymore, although it was top tier in 1994, because its graphics are very poor for today’s standards, it’s UI has always been poor, and it’s a game that fully relies on immersion, but you can’t immerse yourself anymore if both graphics and UI are really poor. Instead, play the System Shock remake from Nightdive Studios which came out recently. It’s not the same, but it’s very similar, and much better nowadays. Also why you shouldn’t play the old STALKERs anymore, although they were amazing and it kind of saddens me to write this, but they really don’t offer much immersion today, which is why they didn’t age well. I’m writing this because I didn’t finish part 3 back in the day and intended to finish it like 2 years ago, but I couldn’t stand the dated graphics anymore. For a game which relies fully on immersion, that ruins it.

Here’s my list (not in a particular order), I’m focusing on PC games because I never really play that much console or handheld stuff:

  • Command and Conquer up until Red Alert (remastered version available). These are classic RTS games in a sci-fi war setting. Some say Total Annihilation was the best RTS during the 90s but I never played it.

  • Starcraft 1 (remastered version available). This game is also still being played competitively in multiplayer, with an active tournament scene, especially in South Korea. Also great in single player. Famous for its balance, at least on modern tournament maps.

  • Age of Empires 2 (remastered version available). It’s like a mix between a classic RTS and Civilization. Great game, lots of content by itself already, also tons of added content.

  • Jagged Alliance 2 (great community mods available). You can skip part 1, part 2 was absolutely amazing. A great strategy and tactics based game. It’s quite difficult, but great.

  • Doom 1+2 (remastered version available, very recently updated again on Steam (this month!)). Plenty of 3rd party engines like gzdoom also available which make them look and feel much more modern. Tons of community-made content as well. Special mention: John Romero, one of the original level designers, also made more content over the years (e.g. “Sigil”), which is great as well.

  • Quake 1+2 (remastered version and 3rd party engines available). These were among the first games fully utilizing 3D-accelerated graphics back in the day, so they pushed boundaries and they brought the pseudo-3D games like Doom 1+2 into a full 3D environment.

  • Baldur’s Gate 1+2 + its expansions (remastered version available). Also highly recommend version 3 of course but that’s not an old game. Plenty of mods available for them as well. These are all exceptional RPG games with great story and depth that no RPG fan should skip. They also age well because it’s just good 2D art.

  • Planescape: Torment (only if you a) liked Baldur’s Gate and b) don’t mind reading (it’s a lot of text) and enjoying a complex story with complex character interactions. Remastered version available)

  • Half-Life 1+2 (instead of HL1, play “Black Mesa” which is a great modern remake (not the same, but very similar and much better nowadays). For HL2, there are also some remastered versions or mods available, and Valve updated the game engine from time to time so when you download it today, it’s not the dated version from 2004 anymore). HL1 (1998) was one of the first FPS with a really great story line, voice acting, and stuff like that, which is why it pushed boundaries back when it was released. HL2 was just excellent overall and one of the first or the first game which introduced physics-based object manipulations, so it again pushed boundaries further)

  • Sin Gold was a great FPS from 1998 that got brutally overshadowed by Half-Life 1, but it’s still a great story-based shooter, more action-focused. Based on an updated Quake 1 engine.

  • Portal 1+2. Best to play them after you’ve played the Half-Lifes. Portal 2 (2012) is THE highest rated game on Steam (steamdb.info/stats/gameratings/). Truly great puzzle FPS set in Half-Life’s setting, which is why it’s useful to know about HL before jumping in (but not a requirement). Portal 1 also isn’t far off in rating. Portal 1 was basically a “side game” for the Valve game compilation named The Orange Box, Portal 2 was then a true AAA quality followup because Portal 1 was a huge success.

  • Deus Ex 1 (maybe. Graphics are really poor (they were already dated when it launched). But it was one of the first RPG-FPS with stellar level design and the freedom to approach every situation in different ways, so VERY good on the gameplay side). Deus Ex 2 is supposedly bad, so skip that. The newer ones like Human Revolution and Mankind Divided are decent but they’re not classics anymore they’re still “”“fairly recent”“”, around 2010 or so.

  • System Shock 2. It also looks very dated by now but there are some HQ mods available (improving models and textures) which make it more bearable. I’m hesitant to mention it because it relies a lot on immersion and it looks very dated. So according to my own recommendations, I probably shouldn’t list it, but it’s also great in level design and gameplay, and its art style never was ultra-realistic to begin with, so I’ll list this one as an exception. It’s very much worth playing, truly a great sci-fi/horror RPG-FPS and a worthy successor to part 1. Nightdive Studios might be working on an SS2 Remake or Remaster, if so then I’d say wait for that!

  • Monkey Island 1 + 2. Remasters available. Classic point-and-click adventures, timeless.
  • There are even more great adventure games from LucasArts or Sierra back in the day, but you’ll have to figure them out for yourself. I will only recommend Monkey Island because they were probably the most successful and well-known ones. For some of them, remasters are available, or you can play them using ScummVM. There were also other great adventures not from LucasArts or Sierra, like Simon the Sorcerer. The 80s, 90s and early 2000s spawned a lot of great point+click adventure games.

  • Diablo 2 (remaster available). D1 started the whole “genre” of hack&slay action RPGs but it’s rather poor in comparison and aged terribly, D2 is much better in all areas, so skip D1 and instead try D2.

  • Z (very unique and fun RTS game from the 90s. If you haven’t played it, you should! It offers very good and unique gameplay that no one else really tried to copy as far as I know, which is a shame. It truly emphasizes unit production time, speed and good timing). It’s also entertaining. And difficult.

  • Thief Gold + Thief 2 (remasters available I think, but even if not, despite the graphics being very dated, a lot of it is in shadows anyway and IMHO the general art style kind of ages well, though that may be subjective, and it’s also immersion-based, so YMMV, but I think it’s fine still). Also “The Dark Mod” as a community “continuation” of the series). If you like stealth FPS, you must play them. Thief 3 is also decent. Any Thiefs after that are terrible. There are amazing community-made mods/missions as well.

  • Alien: Isolation. This one is from 2012 I believe, so not quite old, but an honorable mention because it’s also an amazing stealth-based game. Its art style (like the first movies) also makes it age better. In fact I’d say this is one of the best horror-based stealth games ever made.

  • Heroes of Might & Magic 3 (I think in this case, the remaster is bad. Stick to community mods/patches). This one is still the best of the series, so you don’t need to play any other part. Ages very well because it has very beautiful 2D-based graphics. Great art and design overall.

  • There was one old RPG which supposedly aged very well but I didn’t play it yet. Maybe Albion or Lands of Lore, not sure what it was.

  • Tomb Raider 1-3 (remaster)

  • WH40k Dawn of War 1 is great if you like the universe and RTS games in general. Also the best in the series.

  • XIII (Thirteen) - but not the new remake, play the original. It’s a rather unique stealth-based, comic-look based FPS. Ages quite well because of its unique look (utilizes the kind of shading like Borderlands)

  • Elder Scrolls 3-5 are very good as well but you need several mods or engine enhancements, otherwise graphics aren’t that good anymore, and these are games which rely on good graphics as well for atmosphere/immersion. So they don’t age well by default, but thankfully they have a VERY active modding community which keeps these games alive. You can even make them look very modern, but it takes time and effort to do so.

  • Nethack (somewhat of a nerd game, terrible graphics by design (text-based art style), but amazing and very deep/complex gameplay, very rewarding to get into, if you don’t mind its presentation. In terms of gameplay depth it brutally outclasses most games on the market). There are also some other clones like Slash’Em which I didn’t play. Dwarf Fortress is probably similar in depth and presentation (but very different in gameplay and general type of game) but I also didn’t play it yet. If you know enough about Nethack it’s also not that hard, but getting to that point is very difficult and if you don’t know anything then it’s very difficult. (I’ve done 8 ascensions, i.e. 8 finished playthroughs).

  • Honorable mention because it’s technically not old but looks old: Return of the Obra Dinn. Don’t skip this one, it’s one of the best games I’ve ever played, I’m not kidding. It’s truly amazing, and it’s made by 1 guy. It’s a perfect example of why graphics fidelity in games doesn’t matter that much and you can create excellent, modern-feeling, stylish games regardless.
OrgunDonor,
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This is a great list.

I agree with your points on System Shock 2, I would also highlight that you could wait for the enhanced edition that Nightdive are doing of System Shock 2, and you could play their remake of the original in the mean time.

kyub,

Added it, thanks.

OBK,

Check out the STALKER GAMMA mod, I’ve played it and it’s great! (from a long time STALKER fan)

Essence_of_Meh, do games w UK petition of "Require videogame publishers to keep games they have sold in a working state" just got thrown back to the Government
@Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world avatar

That’s positively surprising, I expected them to leave it at that until petition reaches the second milestone (if that even happens). Let’s see if anything new comes out of this.

drz, do gaming w Who, in your opinion, is the most annoying character in any game?

Do you go to the cloud district often? Oh what am I talking about, of course you don’t!

deathmetal27,

I’ll have you know there’s no …

GarbageShoot, do gaming w I banned my kid from Roblox.... what next?

Minecraft seems like the obvious choice for kids who liked Roblox. Terraria is another. If they can only play on a server that one of them hosts, then no need to worry about outside users.

Good on you and the other parents for getting that shit out of there, kids don’t need addiction machines trying to pressure them into spending money.

Sky_Lobster, do gaming w I banned my kid from Roblox.... what next?

Minecraft?

WetBeardHairs,

That’s a good one! I’m kind of hoping to give him a copy of something as a gift - but he’s already got minecraft. I want him to have options.

can,

Terraria?

WetBeardHairs,

Oh that’s a good one

msage,

Also Calamity mod… it expands Terraria massively

Aatube,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

FTB modpacks?

WetBeardHairs,

Yeah they play stuff like bedwars.

Aatube,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

Ah. So they’ve never played co-op stuff before?

DARbarian, do piracy w What are good mullvadvpn alternatives with port forwarding
@DARbarian@artemis.camp avatar

According to r/VPNTorrents, Proton and AirVPN are the only recommended VPNs since they are the only well-established privacy-respecting ones left that still have port-forwarding. New ones are popping up with promise, like Azire and a couple others, but time will tell. As for Proton, I decided against it because of its limited port forwarding and lack of IPv6 compatibility and settled on AirVPN But Proton has genuinely great products if you're interested in the full suite. AirVPN, in my opinion, is just the last great VPN. Open-source & fully featured client, run by activists, anonymous accounts, crypto purchasing, IPv6 compatibility, full port forwarding, great support, Tor integration, the list goes on.

Dirk_Darkly,

You can add Windscribe to that list. They’ve been shown to respect customers and offer port forwarding.

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

They're super transparent with whatever they have going on with them. They had one probe within the last couple years but they don't keep logs so I'm not sure anything bad for the users is possible, and what VPN hasn't been asked for it's information lol

Imprint9816, (edited )

The issue is that authorities were able to retrieve the private key off the server. Yes, Windscribe adjusted afterwards but, it puts their security practices into major question. If you read their response to the situation it was a ton of side stepping the issue, trying to put blame on other VPNs, or trying to act like a government getting access to one of their private keys was not a big deal.

Windscribe is fine, back when they were shit-tier I grabbed a lifetime pro subscription for $30. For the common user, who just wants to download their very legal Linux ISOs on qbit its a good VPN. I just think Windscribe gets a pass on its history more so then a lot of other VPNs.

Imprint9816,

I think people forget how trash windscribe was for years or that they had one of their servers seized and private keys stolen in 2021.

They have made a lot of progress but its still odd how people ignore their past history.

Dirk_Darkly,

You might want to add the proper context that the servers were siezed by authorities (so not stolen) and they were very transparent about the fact that it was a legacy system. They also followed with a plan to rectify, including third part audits. Every organization makes mistakes, it’s how they respond that matters.

If you’re looking for a VPN provider that hasn’t had issues ever in their history, good luck. You’ll just end up with the ones who lie and cover up incidents.

evendude7763,

Did you read their comment?

’ they had one of their servers seized and private keys stolen in 2021 ’ they never said servers were stolen

Imprint9816, (edited )

“If you’re looking for a VPN provider that hasn’t had issues ever in their history, good luck. You’ll just end up with the ones who lie and cover up incidents.”

This is the type of ignorant statement makes it hard to take you seriously. First of all its not true, and if you really believed it, why waste time stanning for Windscribe? What’s your pitch? “They all suck so go with this one”

Sure, trustworthy VPNs are few and far between but they do exist. On the no port-forwarding side you have Mullvad, and IVPN and other newer ones that seem promising for now. On the port-forwarding side you have Proton and AirVPN with other newer ones that have some promise.

Even OVPN, who now has dubious ownership, has a far better track-record then Windscribe.

Sharpiemarker,

Well-recommended. Thanks for the information!

rambos,

Damn, I didnt have that good reasons, but I also got AirVPN (;

dutchkimble,

Is Nord not considered privacy-respecting anymore?

Squirrel, do gaming w The Steam Deck is changing how normies think of gaming PCs.
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First off: normies?

Second, you’re absolutely right. Steam did a great job with the whole Steam Deck Verified thing. It ensures that the game “just works”, which is someone that can’t always be said of PC games. It makes sense, given the near uniform hardware of the Deck, of course, but it’s still important for reaching the console and/or casual gamer markets.

And let’s face it, the Deck is just convenient as hell. It’s the mobile gaming solution I’ve wanted for decades.

Grimpen,

…but I totally get what he means. Some people just aren’t excited about fiddling with settings, hardware, software or otherwise. It’s just a pain. Even myself, I’ve noticed I’ve lost most of my appetite for twiddling with drivers and such so I get it. When I play a game, I want to play the game, not set up the game, tweak the game, etc.

This has always been one of the key advantages of consoles over PC gaming. You can go to Gamestop, buy the game, plug it into your console, and then play. Or at least you used to.

Consoles have gotten more fiddly over the years, and the Steam Deck meets them halfway. If you are okay with online game stores, managing storage space for your games, you are already good to go with your Steam Deck. If you want to, you can tweak your settings for more battery life or performance, or venture outside the Steam Deck Verified games.

NuPNuA,

Eh, it’s not always great, Baldurs Gate 3 is “Varifed”, but it took some fiddling with the settings to get it toba stable 30 with decent lod on my deck.

stappern, do gaming w Pirating games you own?

I wouldn’t call it pirating at that point.

scrubbles,
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Government probably would though.

stappern,

Nah

FinnTheFickle, do gaming w What type of game do you want to play that doesn't really exist?
@FinnTheFickle@compuverse.uk avatar

I had an idea of a game where you played as a photojournalist documenting the brutality of a near-future totalitarian regime. There would be elements of stealth because you’d have to evade the police to take your photos and you have pretty much no combat ability. You’d use your earnings from selling the photos to gradually upgrade your equipment, maybe starting off with a shitty cell phone camera and working your way up to professional quality full frame SLRs. I’d want it to simulate the workings of a real camera… f-stop, shutter speed, ISO, etc., so you’re challenged with getting good, usable photos in difficult conditions.

Coelacanth,
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You know, that sounds sick actually. Especially if it was more sandboxy than linear, and also had some kind of survival system (pay for food/rent) to add tension and encourage risk taking when snooping around.

LucyLastic,

A Spiderman game without the Spider part?

itsgallus,

So, just a man game?

Rodeo,

No gorls allowed

KanariePieter,

This is more or less what I wish Beyond Good And Evil had been. The combat in that game wasn’t good but I liked the idea of having to photograph evidence and getting photos of wildlife on the side to earn some money. It wasn’t nearly as fleshed out as your idea though.

PotentiallyAnApricot,

This is a really cool concept and I like it a lot.

ag_roberston_author,
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Beyond Good and Evil is this, but it’s almost 15 years old so not quite at that level of complexity.

NotASharkInAManSuit, do gaming w Three developers' different philosophies on difficulty for their games

I wasn’t expecting this post to bring out this kind of animosity in people. Jesus fuckin’ christ.

Video games are not a public service, there is no such thing as a 100% universally enjoyed video game for a reason. It’s ok that there are different types of video games, folks, be them too hard or too easy for your tastes, it’s kind of stupid to throw these kinds of stones about it.

I mean, is every book supposed to be palatable to everyone? Are we all supposed to feel the exact same way about every piece of art? This is like being mad that Guardians of The Galaxy involved sci-fi and super heroes and wasn’t a WWII documentary because that’s what you’d have preferred to watch.

groet,

Some books are written in smaller text than others. Some people have difficulties reading small text. Some people argue the enjoyment of such books is based on the small text. Others disagree and want to be able to experience the book with larger text.

NotASharkInAManSuit,
Nosavingthrow,

Some texts are too esoteric or hard to understand. Some people argue that the enjoyment of such books is based on the obscure meaning of said books. Others are stupid and should get better at reading comprehension. Git gud, shitter.

Soulg,

Get a magnifying glass then.

If s game is too hard, get good at it. If you don’t want to do that, then the game isn’t made for you. You’re not entitled to anything

thejoker954,

Dumbass - “easy” mode is the magnifying glass.

Guitarfun, (edited )

That would be more like a mod or trainer, which pretty much everyone agrees is completely fine. You can do whatever you want with your property.

Nosavingthrow,

Access to color blind mode, input changing, or speciallty is the magnifying glass/fony size change. Dumbing the text down to be more easily understood would be easy mode, dumbass.

thejoker954,

Not in his analogy. Fuckwad.

Nosavingthrow,

Yes, because his analogy sucks ass and doesn’t accurately reflect a relational aspect of two subjects by highlighting similar facets, dipshit.

Petter1,

Well said, nobody fucks about a book being written too complicated, they just roast readers who don’t understand it while they themself pretend that they understand, after reading interpretations.

Same with games that are hard in my opinion.

And there is a big difference between hard because designed hard, and hard because lazy programmed (stupid hitboxes, glitchy behaviour etc). But same goes for books: a book I would have written would not be hard to understand because it is designed like this, but because I am a confused neurodivergent/ADHS/autism who knows what guy writing my stuff all over the place with dump punctuation.

Iambus,

This is the dumbest thing I’ve read today

okmko, (edited )

Games, like movies, are easily consumed but difficult to create. As a result, everyone and their grandma can critique them and publish on the Internet which only further self-selects for the highly opinionated to do so.

But not all opinions are equal. You can be well studied in your field and generally intelligent, but if you don’t have a relevant background in the humanities and the sciences, you can have complex reasoning but without having the depth, the breadth, and the relevance in the analysis.

Case in point the first replier. The analogy is fine and the deductive reasoning is self-consistent, but they didn’t show the relevance to game design. (Ie. Why must the author make the text size bigger for people who can’t enjoy smaller text, and why must the same apply to games.)

That’s why gamers seem to be notorious for having takes that miss the trees for the forest.

(I am aware that I’m very much at risk of committing this very error with my post.)

curiousaur,

Exactly. Not all opinions are equal. If you suck at games, you shouldn’t even get an opinion, you should get a different hobby.

okmko,

I’m not disagreeing with you. But that’s the thing, being good at a game isn’t even an important qualification for insightful analysis which is why gamers tend to make poor takes.

The important qualifications are experience and formal knowledge in the arts and some of the sciences. The YouTuber Noah Caldwell-Gervais is a good example. The guy sucks ass at twitch mechanics (ie. playing games) but he’s extremely well-read and has extensive knowledge on many domains so he makes insightful analysis.

Miyazaki doesn’t even play his own games and probably sucks just as much ass at twitch mechanics but he’s able to consistently direct amazing games because of his extensive knowledge and experience apart from playing well.

stevedice,

I tried Dark Souls, got my ass kicked, tried again, got my ass kicked again, went “huh, guess it’s not for me” and moved on with my life. I truly don’t get this mentality where people think they’re entitled to play a game that was clearly not designed for them.

Rhynoplaz, do games w Sliced off the tip of my thumb, what are some good one handed games?

Welcome to the club! I did the same thing with a meat slicer about 20 years ago. My thumb was flat at the tip of the nail for a long time, but it’s grown back since then.

Turn based games are great for one handed, because you can take your time hitting the buttons. Maybe slay the spire, Inscryption or balatro if you haven’t tried those yet.

PacMan,

I second this is hurt my thumb real bad a few years back. Lot of the old Final fantasy games are great. I ended up most of the way the original VII on the PSX. Lot of the new ones are quick action. Chron Trigger and Earthbound are also good ones as well on the SNES

Rhynoplaz,

I did the same! Unrelated to my thumb, but I played through Final Fantasy 4-6 and had a blast. I started 7, but I might be the only person on the planet that doesn’t enjoy it.

msmc101, do gaming w The oldest Minecraft server, MinecraftOnline, is being shut down by Microsoft

“free speech” + “libertarian values” = rampant slurs and abuse

SnotFlickerman, do games w My AYN Thor

Damn it can play Mario Odyssey?? I am a little surprised it can emulate Switch games, but damn that’s cool.

I understand why it’s Android but that also feels so limiting in a way…

PerfectDark, (edited )
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

Yes! It depends on which Switch games, of course Switch emulation is a slippery slope of diving into drivers, settings and builds. But a lot of games run well!!

Even more surprising was WiiU (since that emulator is quite recent on the scene!), and PS3! WipEout HD: Fury was fun to play!

Little edit: I’ve actually got an article on Eden emulator coming up soon, I interviewed two of the devs, and I’m writing things up now. So if you’re interested in the ‘main’ Switch emulator being built and maintained, then keep an eye out for when I post it! You can just bookmark my author link here and when it’s up, it’ll appear there

Dudewitbow,

the bigger wall with switch emulation on android is that mobile companies are terrible at writing gpu drivers when compared to conventional desktop/laptop graphics vendors. its why for example the older snapdragon gen 2/3 outperform their newer snapdragon elite counterparts in emulation.

theres significantly more setup time on mobile because some of the jank doesnt “just work”

PerfectDark,
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The Snapdragon 865 is the undisputed winner of all for the Switch, even now after so much time has passed. Time will change that, and the community is what drives changes, but it’s definitely a unique scene!

SnotFlickerman,

If the SD865 is the undisputed champ does that mean that the Lite version is actually the best for Switch Emulation since that’s the one that ships with SD865?

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/107956e1-79ca-4422-8002-2d6ff7c2e4f9.webp

PerfectDark,
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

While it’s outdated, its the divers that make it the better option for Switch emulation! But, with time will come drivers which make the newer upgrades work as well, like 8gen2. Right now, it’s the community support that keeps the 865 being the most stable and the one I’d recommend the most (with Turnip) for Switch emu!

But as for everything else? It’s a weigh up for what is most important to you!

DaMummy,

The next Eden update focuses a lot on the snapdragon elite series, without even using turnip drivers.

dinckelman, do games w Thoughts on the humble bundle this month?

When the two flagship titles are sports scamware, and a largely discontinued set of expansions for a dying mmo, i dont even know what to say

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