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atro_city, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Don't like this? Sign the EU petition Stop Killing Games.

Minizarbi,
@Minizarbi@jlai.lu avatar

Yea I was thinking about this !

uis,

I wish I could sign. Sadly, not all european citizens are EU citizens.

Sylvartas, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"

Good to see we’re finally fighting back against Fandom

w3dd1e,

Fandom is icky. A few years ago, my mom was getting scammed by some conspiracy guy from LinkedIn who offered her a “job.”

These dudes set up their own fandom wiki to try to make their bullshit seem real. I can’t remember the name of the people involved but one guy was claiming that he was owed 300 trillion dollars by the government. (Can’t remember the exact number but it was astronomically high. More money than exists kinda high)

NuXCOM_90Percent,

A lot of devs of “wiki games” have been doing this lately.

Digital Extremes/Warframe did it a month or two back. And a lot of people have speculated that wiki.warframe.com/…/WARFRAME_Wiki:Stakeholder_Ana… and the old fandom equivalent “explains” it but that is inherently tinfoil and biased speculation.

NigelFrobisher, do gaming w Helldivers 2 gets delisted in more countries without PSN access, blindsided devs call for it to be "available worldwide" | Gamesrader

Pray that I don’t alter the deal further.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w After 11 years, Xbox One emulators are finally coming to PC - but they're not actually using emulation at all

Nobody was missing out on anything. All of 343s Halo games have been garbage, but Halo 5 takes the garbage cake home.

The translation layer is awesome for every other game though.

tacosanonymous,
@tacosanonymous@lemm.ee avatar

I was a big LAN player in the heyday of the original, even got through 4.

That trash game came with the xbone I bought for my wife and I still couldn’t play it.

Microplasticbrain,

343 just sucks at making good halo stories, great gameplay (on infinite atleast), but they just don’t know where to take the story. I was disappointed in 4 skipped 5 and infinite was another halfbaked story that just felt empty.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Half of Halo 4 was the best Halo story. The other half of it was the worst Halo story.

RightHandOfIkaros,

343 is okay at making gameplay, but they are not good at making Halo gameplay. I mean, Halo 4 was just Call of Duty with Halo window dressing. And it makes sense because 343 was so proud to announce that they hired people who hate Halo to work on Halo. Well look how that turned out.

fox2263,

They capitulate too much.

As the other reply said, half the (H4) game was good. But they listened to the haters and changed up H5 dropping or rehashing the majority of things from H4. Then they capitulated again and threw everything out for H6 and gave us essentially H7 in all but name.

Years spent bringing everything to a head for 6 with Cortana, the Guardians, even Halo Wars. Then it’s all confined to audio logs.

I want to finish that damn story 343. Not whatever the fuck Infinite was.

Microplasticbrain,

Yea infinite was strange because the whole thing was like a prologue

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve said before, Infinite feels like the DLC to a Halo 6 game that was never released.

catloaf,

Isn’t that true of all Halo games though? I’ve only played 1 and 2, but the writing in those was just not good at all. I can’t imagine subsequent games being even worse.

MossyFeathers,
@MossyFeathers@pawb.social avatar

I couldn’t get through Halo 4’s campaign when it was released as part of the MCC, nor was I able to get though Halo Infinite’s (it wasn’t bad, just… meh; nowhere near as good as the Bungie campaigns but not trash either, just not as good). I would still like the option to play Halo 5 on PC just so I have the ability to play the main campaign, plus I’ve heard it’s the best multiplayer Halo? But yeah. Even if I never actually play it, it’s nice to have the option.

On a tangential note, I think 343’s Halo games would have been considered good if it wasn’t for Bungie’s Halo. I don’t think their campaigns are honestly bad, per se (though again, haven’t tried to play H5), they’re just bad in comparison to the “OG” games.

WhyFlip,

Pew pew pew!

simple,

Yeah there’s a reason there hasn’t been much interested in Xbone emulation, almost everything worth emulating has gotten PC ports over the years or is also on PS3 which does have a good emulator. Maybe if Sunset Overdrive was still a console exclusive I’d bother, but I guess this is cool for some peeps.

TrustedTyrant,

Forza horizon 2 is the only game I can think of that I would use this for.

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

Halo 5 had a lot of problems. Bit it’s a damned masterpiece compared to Infinite.

Halo 5 had great gunplay, Warzone Firefight was a blast, the Guardians were a great stand-in for the Halo rings, Cortana was an intimidating enemy by the end of the game, the lootboxes were actually better than the armor cores and marketplace from Infinite.

There are A LOT of negatives in there too. But a lot of positives. Infinite is just a shitshow from the beginning.

BestTestInTheWest,

Do people not like infinite? A mate and I are playing coop currently and I’m really enjoying it.

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I have a lot of problems with it. Between the “story” and the copy-paste map. I would rather the game didn’t exist, because at least then they could make a follow up to 5’s end.

I really don’t want to spoil your fun if you’re enjoying it though. A lot of the gameplay elements are fun to play around with.

intensely_human,

Infinite has coop now??

russjr08,

As far as I recall, Infinite has had online co-op, just not local/split screen co-op.

But don’t quote me on that!

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

It did not release with co-op. I think they had to figure out how to make it work with the open world map and zip lining. When I had finished it, it still didn’t have it. When they added it, they also announced that they had stopped trying to make local co-op work.

russjr08,

Jeez, no wonder Infinite has always had such a bad reputation then!

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

As far as I know, they gave up on assassinations too. To be honest, by the time I finished the game, the missing features were at the bottom of the list of problems I had with it.

turtletracks,

The Master Chief Collection doesn’t have split screen campaigns on PC

So fucking upsetting getting it all set up only to be told it’s online only. It’s fucking Halo!!!

turtletracks,

Then even more pissed off that it’s in the console version. Why cut features between the two??

maxenmajs,
@maxenmajs@lemmy.world avatar

It’s in a more or less acceptable state now and I play it, but it sure doesn’t live up to the original 10 year live service promise.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Them just retconning Cortana was such a letdown. Honestly while 5 wasn’t great, it did set up infinite to be really really good. Then they went with a really boring alternative.

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

This is my biggest complaint. Halo 6 was set up to be an amazing game. Then Infinite ended up with zero story. The most interesting stuff in Infinite were the little flashback sequences that bridge 5 to Infinite.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

You can really tell that campaign took a back seat in the game. A shame because the open world was honestly a lot of fun, it was just empty and hollow because of such of a lame story. You could have been jumping between worlds fighting Cortana for the survival of the human race. Instead… we’re lost on a ring again, and we’re fighting a brute guy we don’t care about, while desperate for any actual story about what the hell happened

PraiseTheSoup,

Halo 5 is still the worst Halo game.

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I STRONGLY disagree. 5 was a letdown with some bright spots. Infinite is offensively bad with no redeeming value.

Even if you remove Infinite, 5’s combat is better than 4’s in every single way. I would split second worst between those two depending on what aspects you’re comparing.

PraiseTheSoup,

5’s combat is better than 4’s in every single way

Halo 5 has ADS and Halo 4 does not. This alone makes Halo 5 combat worse.

cevn,

Infinite is good now with the netcode having been re worked. It has a few poor maps and bad choices regarding forge and split screen. Ut actually playing the game is fun in most cases.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I played Halo 5 Forge on PC no scratch the Halo itch when MCC wasnt even announced yet (I felt so cool for knowing that exists).
If I could choose, I’d play Halo 5 Forge over Infinite. But I like the gadgets more than the booster feature.

curry,

It’s still important for video game preservation, no matter how crappy the games themselves might be.

Pratai, do games w More than Skyrim or Fallout, Todd Howard says Starfield was "intentionally made to be played for a long time" and Bethesda's looking 5+ years ahead

If that’s the case, wouldn’t they have made it interesting?

RealFknNito,
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

“basically we made a coloring book. It’s bland, boring, but some talented artists will add onto the poorly fleshed out systems later and keep it alive for five years. We love our modding community.”

Watching Bethesda scrape together this new IP and it just being… Average… Is disheartening. I hope they’re just channeling their good ideas in ES6 but I’m losing faith.

Zoomboingding,
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

I lost faith when the lead creative left like 6 years ago

neon_nova, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"

I avoid using fandom like it’s contagious. It’s so cluttered, when my blockers on images don’t load half the time. It’s a slow site.

It’s really the worst, I’d rather scrub through a YouTube video to find the answer I’m looking for rather than go to a fandom site.

Cris_Color,
@Cris_Color@lemmy.world avatar

You might like the indie wiki buddy extension, it can automatically redirect you to a independent wiki when you go to fandom (if there is one), remove fandom search results, and redirect you to a ‘breeze wiki’ page if there’s no fandom alternative

(Breeze wiki is an alternative frontend for fandom, much like invidious for YouTube. It guts all the ads and banners and garbage, and gives you a much simpler wiki page)

Elevator7009sAlt,

If you browse a lot on mobile and cannot install extensions, all you have to do is replace the “fandom” in the fandom wiki URL with “antifandom”

Cris_Color,
@Cris_Color@lemmy.world avatar

Oh nice! I use firefox on mobile so I can still use extensions (just have to enable developer settings), but that’s super handy for folks who don’t have that option!

umbraroze,

I’ve often been like “I don’t know why people complain about Fandom, this is fine”. And then I saw what the site looks like without uBlock. Sweet merciful heavens. Hey, there’s some ads. Let’s cram some ads in the ads. Some prime blank space? Shove some annoying video things in there. Autoplaying. See that navigation bar over there? Let’s make it pointless. (If you come to the article via web search, surely you want to read about some completely random stuff in another game!)

Fandom is garbage, Fextralife is garbage (and at this rate will probably be bought by Fandom one day). Indie wikis rule.

samus12345, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

If a game is deemed “woke” by right-wing shitheads, that’s like a seal of approval for me. Now, the game might still suck, but it’s not because of being inclusive and diverse.

Rose,

If it does “flop”, they undoubtedly would chalk it up to it being inclusive and diverse though. Otherwise they just quickly move on to the next target.

samus12345,

Yup, with movies and games alike if it’s “woke” and flops they always say that’s why, when the truth is it just sucked.

Aux,

It’s a lot easier - if Americans don’t like what Europeans are doing, then it’s a great thing they’re doing!

samus12345,

Plenty of American developers are making “woke” games. This isn’t a country-specific thing. But in general, yes!

Aux,

No one cares about woke bs.

samus12345,

No one who matters does, no. “Woke” is in quotes because it’s a bullshit term.

Aux,

No, woke is bs because it’s an American crap. Remember when CDPR got under fire for not having black characters in Witcher 3?

Here are some links to refresh your memory:

That’s your typical American woke mental diarrhea.

Once again - if Americans are complaining, then Europe is doing the right thing. It doesn’t matter what type of American is complaining.

Iambus,

This is the first I’ve heard of this game being deemed woke.

overload,

Didn’t you hear? Ciri is older and therefore ugly now. The worst offence that a designer could make for a female character.

samus12345,

If a game has a non-white or non-male protagonist, it’s automatically “woke.”

frezik, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

When does Ubisoft realize that “you never owned it” and “you can’t complain” are arguments for not buying their next game?

y0kai,

Why buy what you can’t own? ☠️

madcaesar,

They know. But consumers / voters are morons that will buy anyway, so they have no incentive to give a fuck.

frezik,

Will they? A lot of “live service” games are failing of late.

Krompus,
@Krompus@lemmy.world avatar

They can’t complain because they never got my money.

LordWiggle,
@LordWiggle@lemmy.world avatar

I think they are realizing. It’s why they are looking to sell assets to China I assume. Source

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e4342012-96b3-44f1-b74d-5282a6dacdee.jpeg

aeternum,

damn. their stock is almost worthless. Keep it going!

Evotech, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"

Best thing that happened to path of exile too, the devs provide the wiki platform for the community

www.poewiki.net

Very based

KickMeElmo,

Warframe just did it too. Fantastic move.

alphapuggle,
@alphapuggle@programming.dev avatar

Same thing happened with minecraft.wiki too, people finally got fed up with fandom’s bullshit

Klear,

Same with doomwiki.org and a bunch of others.

muix,

osrs.wiki lets just list them all

RedAggroBest,

I’m surprised the OSRS wiki isn’t mentioned more. The game itself is very community oriented as well.

Benaaasaaas,

OSRS wiki is BY FAR the best wiki in the entire industry.

2ncs,

That’s not the same, Mojang isn’t affiliated with the wiki at all.

bob_lemon,

The Guild Wars 2 (and 1) wiki is also hosted directly by the devs. It’s even accessible via chat command.

wiki.guildwars2.com

billiam0202, (edited )

The fact that in GW2 you can just type

/wiki subject

and get taken to the wiki page for subject is such an amazing and obvious command I’m surprised more games don’t do it.

omarfw,

Goddamn that’s awesome. Had no idea after hundreds of GW2 hours.

billiam0202,

Here’s the most useful one, IMO:

/wiki et

It takes you to the event timers page, so you can see when the world events are going to happen.

bob_lemon,

I also like /wiki ezd which opens a page telling you how to quickly do the daily and weekly objectives.

Fribbtastic,

Not only that but GW2 also can link items and skills in the chat so that someone else can view them. And the best part is that this also works with the wiki command.

So, for example, you found an item and want to know what it is and what you can use to for, just link it after /wiki and you are redirected to the full page of that item.

Unfortunately, I lately have issues with firefox in which the first wiki command somehow screws with my firefox and thinks that it needs to restart before being able to work correctly.

Toneswirly, do games w EA flop Immortals of Aveum reportedly cost around $125 million, former dev says "a AAA single-player shooter in today's market was a truly awful idea"

Peak player count was less than 800 players on steam… Flop is an understatement.

Those 100 workers EA laid off dont deserve to be thrown in the trash; why dont the execs take a nice paycut instead?

haui_lemmy,

I think companies that make profits should not be allowed to lay off people. You‘re welcome.

Edit: without cause

Phegan, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing.

aeternum,

I like the cut of your jib.

Blindsite,

The problem is it’s getting harder and harder to pirate games, especially games that are entirely online.

arc,

When you “buy” software, you’re buying a license that grants you permission to use it subject to the terms & conditions. The stealing as the law would see it is from using software without purchasing a license or using it in violation of the license.

It even extends to digital content people “buy” on Steam, or Google Play, or Amazon including books, music, and videos. You didn’t buy that content, even if you think you did. You bought a license to it which is why occasionally Amazon or whoever will just scrub the content from your account without your consent. That’s also why in some countries you pay VAT on e-books even though you don’t pay VAT on real books - because you actually bought a software license which is liable to VAT.

So the best advice is don’t buy digital media from online services. For games and software it is unavoidable but recognize you don’t legally own squat although most console games on disc or cartridge can still be sold second hand. But even that is being eroded. Nintendo apparently are planning to sell “physical” games in stores but you open it up and there is a redemption code inside. Sony and Microsoft have both tried to get away from physical media too.

LovingHippieCat, do games w Obsidian's new first-person RPG Avowed channels Baldur's Gate 3 in one key way: "The core of RPGs that makes them special is missable content"

Breaking News: RPG does what all RPGs do but we will compare it to only what one well know RPG does instead of simply saying it’s an RPG that does RPG things.

They could have said any other recent RPG game and it would have applied. Using Baldurs Gate 3 is probably just because Avowed is in the Pillars of Eternity world which was another isometric game, but still it’s just an RPG. It could just be channeling Pillars of Eternity instead of Baldurs Gate 3. Why do we have to use Baldurs Gate 3 for every comparison out there?

MarcomachtKuchen,

Because people like the game and like reading about it.

teft,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

BG3 is a great example simply because there is so much content you can miss. I’ve put 1300+ hours into it and I still see things I haven’t seen in any prior playthrough. Granted they aren’t large story things or quests anymore but still, even the little stuff adds up.

fushuan,

So, like skyrim, or oblivion, or pillars of eternity 1 and 2… BG3 is used because it’s famous.

teft,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve played those and BG3 has much more content. Especially missable content that depends on the choices you make.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

There’s at least an order of magnitude difference between how many people have played one versus the other.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Personally, I find it frustrating to see the buzz Baldur’s Gate 3 gets because I remember a time when games like BG3 weren’t a rare sight. I mean, shit, BG3 is just a logical evolution from BG1 and 2. It’s got modern graphics, modern UI, modern controls… Same basic gameplay, same kind of choice that can lead to many replays because there are so many ways to do any given quest, etc.

It isn’t that BG3 isn’t deserving of praise; it definitely is. But the fact it is like a breath of fresh air shows just how awful the industry itself is. They didn’t do anything that hadn’t been done before, and instead went back to old-school roots and fucking dominated the scene by simply not making their game watered down garbage with a lack of agency.

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

That’s the thing though - bg3 isn’t praised because it’s good relative to the state of the industry. It’s a game that did everything right, not just comparatively but in general

grrgyle,

I hadn’t really thought of it that way, but you’re right. I think it happened around the time every action genre starting introducing “RPG éléments” to the point that they became de rigueur.

It was only natural that RPGs themselves would borrow back from the action genres that were borrowing from them.

Anyway yeah, it’s nice to see a big RPG bring just an RPG.

theunknownmuncher,

So what you’re saying is that it’s a valid comparison?

icecreamtaco,
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

Man you sound really bitter over nothing

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Of all the callow villainry, I wish a comparison to Baldur’s Gate 3 was the worst I’ve heard. I have seen such articles talk about Avowed in terms of Skyrim, which was released closer to Banjo Kazooie than Avowed. No irrelevant remark is beyond them, no matter how patently inane.

simple, do games w Steam players hate NBA 2K24 almost as much as they hate Overwatch 2

Yeah but every NBA game gets flooded with negative reviews and these people will buy it again next year. It doesn’t matter how many negative reviews it has if it sells well.

I always have a laugh when half of these reviews are “wow guys this poorly rated game that everyone told me is garbage turned out to be garbage. They’re making the same game every year!”, fast forward to them posting the same review next year.

WarmSoda,

I got Madden 22 for free and for awhile I was enjoying it. It was my first Madden game since the 360. So I start going to forums for the game, and every single post was about how bad the game is, highlighting ridiculous bugs, shitty AI, missing features.

Then details about Madden 23 started to come out and everyone that was tearing 22 apart was absolutely in love with every little thing that was shown.

I stopped reading those forums. It was surreal.

GreenMario,

Civilization series is notorious for that too. Civ -1 is always the best of the series and current Civ is the worst.

WarmSoda,

At least civ tries new things. But yeah the constant release of a new game with less features is pretty common.

Slwh47696,

Man I remember being on the Gamefaqs forums back in like 2005 or so, and people were complaining about this exact scenario back then. Some things never change

______,

I know someone who routinely preorders games and constantly gets disappointed and never fails to preorder again.

Triple A games most of the time. You can probably guess which franchises.

Chainweasel, do games w EA flop Immortals of Aveum reportedly cost around $125 million, former dev says "a AAA single-player shooter in today's market was a truly awful idea"

Single player shooter’s aren’t bad or even unpopular right now. But I think people are beginning to realize that anything that has EA’s name attached to it is trash and just avoid it on principal.

Badeendje,
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

Jup, even new iterations of their older IP seem to be devolving instead of taking that which was fun and expanding on it.

Maybe they should use all these behaviour experts to investigate why people keep playing games instead of figuring out how to maximally predate on your customer base.

Ubi does the same. I found the last farcy so Uninteresting that I stopped playing somewhere mid game. And the first signals from their pirate game are also not encouraging, while I know many people that looked forward to it.

vexikron,

Everyone in the single player fps demo is replaying the old good games, or seeking out like custom doom wads or the occasional actually good indie fps single player game, having at this point long given up on large studios being able to make a compelling single player fps.

Sure, a lot of us enjoy lots of other kinds of games too, but good lord is there an unscratchable itch for a new, compelling FPS campaign thats actually interesting and challenging.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

It's boomer shooters or nothing in that space right now. We're starving out here. On my radar in the coming year or two are Mouse, Core Decay, and Agent 64, but no one knows what kind of quality we'll get out of those. Also, is it a crime to just throw in some competitive multiplayer that's meant to be played a handful of times with friends instead of being the next e-sport?

nuko147, do games w Well played, Todd: You can see Skyrim, or at least its tallest mountain, from the edge of Oblivion Remastered
@nuko147@lemm.ee avatar

This photo is the BG3 home screen lmao

HiddenLychee,

Yeah I mean they straight ripped it off lol

CosmoNova,

It’s also inspired by „the wanderer“ painting that has been referenced a million times without most people even realizing that yes, someone did that first.

FooBarrington,

Do you mean “Wanderer above the sea of fog”?

The greenery makes it hard for me to see that. I really love Elden Rings take on that painting:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a0e68b24-9de3-4a00-9b0f-815e92bf6a85.jpeg

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