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Kyrgizion, do games w The median price of best-selling new games on Steam has dropped in the past 2 years, research finds: "Charging >$25 is getting trickier, as players compare value to the $10-$15 indie titles"
@Kyrgizion@lemmy.world avatar

Let’s see, 70-100+(!) bucks for the (yawn) twentyseventh COD with a 4 hour campaign, or 20 for a game that is complete and lasts for dozens if not hundreds of hours?

Yeah, my choice is easily made.

Malix,
@Malix@sopuli.xyz avatar

it kinda feels like the more expensive a game is, the less value it seem to have.

zecg,
@zecg@lemmy.world avatar

That’s exactly it, was looking for this comment.

PerogiBoi,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

The most expensive game I own is Baldurs Gate 3 (@ $70 CAD) and it’s the only game that was worth full price in my 12 years of activity on steam and over 250 games purchased. My next most expensive game was $30 CAD and I only bought a few games that high.

bobo1900,

Don’t forget that Fallout New Vegas regularly drops below 15$ with all the DLC

grillgamesh,

factorio has mods that last thousands of hours. they’re free additions, and the full game with its dlc is only like 60USD. is ridiculous.

THE FACTORY MUST GROW THE FACTORY MUST GROW THE FACTORY MUST GROW THE FACTORY MUST GROW THE FACTORY MUST GROW

SaraTonin,

I’ve got something like 200 hours in Vampire Survivors, and it cost me less than a fiver

wizardbeard,

The price has crept up with the paid expansions, but holy shit do NOT sleep on the Castlevania one. It doubles the base game content, and fits in great.

SaraTonin,

I’m burnt out on it at this point. In the whole bullet haven gameplay loop.

chemical_cutthroat, do games w The median price of best-selling new games on Steam has dropped in the past 2 years, research finds: "Charging >$25 is getting trickier, as players compare value to the $10-$15 indie titles"
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

Not only that, but charging full price for a game and then charging $15-20 for cosmetic DLC is fucking wild. If I’ve paid you $60+ for a title, I expect the full experience. If you want to add some shit a year down the line to lengthen the life, I’m on board, but day one DLC that costs more than the base game was played out the moment Bethesda graced us with horse armor. I’ve gotten more joy out of Vampire Survivors than I have out of any Ubisoft and EA games in the last 20 years combined.

unexposedhazard,

I was considering buying Risk of Rain 2 on sale yesterday for 9€ but buying all the DLCs costs 45€.

moncharleskey,

For what it’s worth, only one player needs the DLC for everybody in the session to use it, which is pretty cool of the devs to allow that in this day and age.

unexposedhazard,

That is very interesting 🤔
Thanks!

kuberoot,

Unless something changed, players who don’t own DLC can’t play as the DLC characters. I believe they can interact with all the rest of the content normally, just locked to the vanilla character selection (which is still broad and fun enough, and further expandable with mods).

unexposedhazard,

Yeah thats about what i expected.

ramsgrl909,

This is one of my favorite games and I haven’t bought any DLC, my friend has and I mooch off of them when we play :)

erin,

As the other commenter said, only one person needs the dlc to play the (non-character) DLC content. It also frequently goes on pretty big sales, though right now it’s probably full price since the newest (and imo, best) DLC just dropped. Each DLC is a significant content expansion to the game, and is absolutely worth the asking price (except maybe seekers, which fell a bit flat for me on release. It’s since been rebalanced).

If you wanted to weigh which DLC to consider getting, I would recommend Void if you like the idea of modified items that do cool shit, an alternate ending to the game, and some cool new mechanics. It comes with a dope sniper survivor and a void survivor that trades health for damage or vice versa.

Seekers comes with an alternate path of stages leading to an alternate (very challenging) boss. I find that the seekers boss is a severe difficulty check compared to the ease of reaching the boss, compared to the void boss which you only fight late in a run or after a different boss. Two of the survivors feel lackluster to me, but False Son is an absolute beast and the only melee character capable of truly tanking rather than using i-frames or mobility.

Alloyed Collective is the newest, and comes tons of new mechanics (free for everyone but expanded on in the DLC), a new path to follow, SEVERAL new super interesting boss fights, tons of new stages, and tons of new enemies. Overall, super worth it. The characters it adds are a drone controller (a previously unviable play style) and a loot gremlin that gets tons of really awesome interactions and A Cube.

My list would be Alloyed, Void, then Seekers. Alloyed and Void add the most to the base game, Seekers is mostly alternate stuff that won’t touch your runs, though the new shrines are pretty useful early game.

Multiplexer, do games w The median price of best-selling new games on Steam has dropped in the past 2 years, research finds: "Charging >$25 is getting trickier, as players compare value to the $10-$15 indie titles"

And compared to the 10 year old titles on sale that actually work well and look great on 5 year old mid-range HW…

zecg, (edited )
@zecg@lemmy.world avatar

That’s another problem, even if we disregard optimizations, AAA games from 2015. look better than modern upscaled stuff, Unreal Engine seems to be easy enough to use nowadays that big vertically-integrated slop publishers replaced seasoned developers with the cheapest of zoomers.

Adulated_Aspersion, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales

A significant portion of the Nintendo library would launch into the stratosphere in terms of overall sales if they would port to other systems, such as PC.

Change my mind.

Yots92, do games w Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies"

🥱

Give me a proper remake of Koudelka or Galerians, and make Fighting Layer (1998) available officially, who cares about this uninspired slop.

garretble, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

Rockstar probably: “Well we just can’t afford to do a 60fps patch with these sales numbers…”

(I know it’s because they are greedy shits and just want to do a HD version or something on PS6.)

bassomitron, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales

I really tried to enjoy RDR2. It’s got some great qualities, and the acting, writing, and cutscenes are phenomenal. But… The gameplay… I’m all for slowburn walking simulator type games (e.g. I loved Detroit Become Human, among others).

But with RDR2, the world is so massive and yet there was no sense of excitement when finding stuff. You get just about all your upgrades fairly early in the game. There’s no sense of character gameplay progression. And after just a few hours of traveling around, it felt like I quickly had seen all the random event variations on the roads/trails (e.g. stop bandits hijacking a wagon, robberies, etc). I don’t know, it just felt like a hyper realistic GTA5: Western, but without all the plethora of goofy shenanigans that game has.

Doomsider,

I to have tried getting into it without success. Maybe I will be able to return to it someday.

A similar thing happened with Cyberpunk. I revisited it after stopping just after the first act and had the most fun I have had with a game in a long time.

Squizzy,

I dont know, I have heard valid complaints but the western setting doesnt allow for much other than bandit themed random encounters and favours. There are other more out there ones that hint to larger things like time travel etc.

wrekone,

You make some very good points. I loved RDR2, but felt like two-thirds of the way through the game it became main story and nothing else. I thought the side quest content was really good, but there needed to be a lot more of it. The “random” events were awesome, but when they were eventually all completed, it made the world feel somewhat empty in comparison. That said, it’s still one of my favorite games. I’m on a playthrough right now where I mostly just mess around in the world. I like how slow-paced it is. You can just do whatever. Eat, drink, fish, sleep, fight, hunt, cook, ride, shoot… There’s no end to the number of personal side quests you can make up.

HailSeitan, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales

Why should we care about this particular horse/kart race?

some_designer_dude, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales

I rage quit this game after a bunch of hours. Pretty annoying how pretty much every action gets a bounty put on you and then you’re bankrupted trying to pay it off so you can just get back to playing the fucking game without being harassed by every NPC.

Pretty, though.

vikingtons,
@vikingtons@lemmy.world avatar

My exact experience with it down to a T. Can definitely appreciate it for the technological marvel it is.

PalmTreeIsBestTree,

I never had that problem

FosterMolasses, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales
CodenameDarlen, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales

Thinking about pirating it, but I have other games in my pirate list

NaturalViber,

I’ve thought about pirating it too. Seeing as I bought the game years ago, but I lost my email account associated with the 3rd party login, thus not allowing me to play the game.

I never really played it. I started to, but then life happened lol. But I thought I’d go back and play it… nope, can’t remember my password and can’t recover my email.

AmanitaCaesarea,
@AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net avatar

If buying isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing

four,

If you had a DRM-free version on a CD and you lost that CD, would you just pirate that game? Not trying to judge or anything (I’ve sailed the seas myself), just genuinely curious

Sebastrion,

If it was a DRM Free version on a CD, I would probably have a backup on my HDD

yermaw,

Probably. The dev has already made the sale. The usual argument from pirates that will never be settled “I was never going to buy it anyway so they lost no money”. But this way they’ve already made the sale. No harm no foul. With the receipts to back it up.

Squizzy,

Yes

AmanitaCaesarea,
@AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net avatar

Yes since i’ve already purchased it once. Unless there is a good steam discount. And maybe of it’s truly a masterpiece then I would buy it again at full price.

nutsack,

do you have the credit card that was used?

Twongo, do games w GTA 6 dev Rockstar says recent firings were due to leaks of "confidential information" and were "in no way related to people's right to join a union"
@Twongo@lemmy.ml avatar

i would’ve pirated it anyways

thelosers5o, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales

Nintendo doesn’t report digital sales of their games… so RDR2 has sold more than Mario kart 8 physical sales. The impressive part is that it’s still likely so far behind Mario kart 8’s total sales count.

I am a bit surprised of the bad reporting in this article to not realize that distinction

deceiver,

the numbers include digital sales

www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/…/switch.html

“*Software units include the downloadable versions”

thelosers5o,

I stand corrected!

Coelacanth, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales
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I want to finish it some day but I also kind of get sick of it quickly whenever I try to play it for extended periods and actually do main story missions.

Fucking around in the open world and fishing and hunting and all that is great though.

thenose,
@thenose@lemmy.world avatar

Soooo many cutscenes

TheRealKuni,

I was the same way. I suggest you do finish it though, especially if you’ve done some of the side missions along the way. I don’t want to spoil anything, but the way they work actions you made, missions you did, and choices you took into the end is really cool and it made me get all verklempt.

the_crotch,

The progression of Dutch’s mental state, the condition of the gang, and Arthur’s changing attitudes towards life are really well written. The story is long but it’s wonderfully done.

calamitycastle, do games w Red Dead Redemption 2 overtakes Mario Kart 8 as the 4th best-selling video game of all time, boasting 79 million sales

Is there a mod for this that cuts out all the fiddliness and just lets you do the fun stuff? I got maybe 10h into it but it was still teaching me new controls and mechanics… Idgaf about crafting, funding the camp and horse husbandry, I just want to ride around shooting bad hombres and do the story like rdr1… Is this just not the game for me?

TheRealKuni,

You don’t have to do any of that other stuff. Is ancillary. The game will reward you for it, but it’s completely unnecessary.

Hawk,

This is my sentiment with all recent Rockstar games.

Fantastic settings, great stories, but so much bloat. It’s cool that there’s so much stuff to do, but all the interruptions from actually playing the game are so tiresome.

comeonitsnotlike,

This was kinda me too, hence me stopped play it after some 20h in, and let it rest for half a year… recently I decided to give it another go, and when you get the hang of the huge amount of controls in this game, ie; when you can play “smooth” with the controls and the animations that come with them different button clicks, it’s such a game changer (at least for me). Not gonna lie, it took me about 30-40 hours to get comfortable and be productive/effective with how to play this game (these kind of games aren’t my goto though, I’m more of a Tetris guy, haha)

calamitycastle,

Interesting to know though. It sounds bananas in a way though doesn’t it… Like a workweek of training to get good enough to just functionally play a game seems crazy to me, (no judgement!)

comeonitsnotlike,

Agree. But again, I’m not used to these kind of games so the average player might get the hang of it in a couple of hours… (plus, the first 20:ish hours I mostly just took it all in, the views, the atmosphere of it, like a digital walk in the nature… time just went by)

Headbangerd17,

I made it to the end since it was one of the only games I had at the time. Felt like the entire game was a riding horses and talking simulator. It’s so tiring going through the main story. Was ultimately disappointed in the end. Felt like they wanted to make a movie more than a game.

calamitycastle,

I do love a western though

PalmTreeIsBestTree,

That’s why I enjoyed it. I have a thing for borderline interactive movie games because I love movies.

the_crotch, (edited )

You can finish the game without crafting or funding the camp. You’re just locking yourself out of useful items and upgrades.

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