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falynns, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

Games were $60 three decades ago, inflation hits us all.

Gwingollor, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

Doesn’t matters the masses will complain online, bit still pay it.

als, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

Everyone can play your game 🏴‍☠️

MITM0, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

But can we focus on optimizing games so thst it runs on the most potato of potato PCs ??

I think that’ll work wonders along with the pricing

commander, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

I’ll play the game in like 4-5 years like how I played the first one years later for way cheaper. So cheap I couldn’t be disappointed with the writing and just enjoyed the solid but unremarkable game

endeavor, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

Microsoft makes the world worse again. Fuck ms, go linux.

FartMaster69, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

With all due respect, outer worlds is a $40 game at best.

Macaroni_ninja,
@Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

As a huge fan of Obsidian I strongly agree with you.

echodot,

I think I had it on my wish list because I was never going to pay full price and then when it came down in price I looked again at it and I just thought nah, I actually don’t care. So I never bought it.

They’re not exactly starting from a solid foundation.

If any game was going to get away with being $80 it’d be something like grand theft auto or one of the next call of duties, not this one. But maybe they’re trailing it on a game that they know will only be moderately successful at best anyway, that way they don’t lose huge amounts of money if it fails to win over players.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

Support your local libraries. My city’s library system is so good that I borrow games on release day all the time. You get them for 1-2 weeks, Most games that are older than a few weeks you can keep for up to 3 weeks, which gives me plenty of time to knock them off my list. Im sure I’ll get this one soon enough, im currently playing AC Shadows which I borrowed

Psythik,

Borrowing games from the library? How does that even work? Do they give you a Steam login and just change the password every 2 weeks or something?

Jankatarch,

Imagine they just crack it.

Bartsbigbugbag,

There’s these things called consoles, that let you put a disk in, they both contains the game and a license to play it. Though these days some games just sell an empty box with a code to download the game.

Psythik,

What a bizarre concept. I doubt they’ll ever catch on. We already have computers, and you don’t need any fancy “discs” or “empty boxes” to play games on them, either. Just download what you want straight from the internet.

Bartsbigbugbag,

It’s great, I can lend my friend the games he doesn’t have, and I can do the same with his games. In this way, we can play many more games than we have the money for. Especially useful since we’re in the US, and internet infrastructure is still poor here, his only option is satellite, which takes far too long to download anything.

Psythik,

Yeah but who needs friends when you have millions of random strangers on the internet to talk to? The infrastructure issue is a problem that I’m too urbanized to understand. My neighborhood alone gives me the choice of cable, DSL, fixed wireless, and fiber. Move to a place like this, and you won’t need friends or these newfangled “con-souls”.

Joeffect,

Unless it’s a switch 2 then all you get is a key on the cartridge… Biggest waste of time on both sides

Bartsbigbugbag,

Some games, some are on cart too. Switch 1 is actually probably the best because just about every game is fully playable unlike ps and Xbox which require patches often to run alright. Switch 2 I hear cyberpunk is fully on the cart, but I doubt many publishers are willing to pay for the bigger carts, so we’ll probably see a lot of third parties be just the key, which is ridiculous.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool,

Ah, you’re one of those who think only pc gaming exists

Panda,

Not sure how it works nowadays, actually! As a child I would borrow PC and PlayStation games from the library. They were physical copies of course. But with Steam keys and all I’m not sure!

mesitoispro,
@mesitoispro@ttrpg.network avatar

I honestly don’t know, but my local library apparently has something similar.

sevan, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

I bought the first one for $20. For the second I’ll play on Game Pass, if it is available, or again wait for $20. Maybe even less if I forget about it, which I might.

JcbAzPx,

One of the theories behind this game’s price is Microsoft is trying to force more people onto the premium game pass.

Kolanaki, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Wishes everybody could play

Good news!

As long as it doesn’t have Denovu, we can!

Blumpkinhead,

What is Denonvu?

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

A DRM that is notorious for being not only hard to crack, but also causes performance issues in the games that use it.

Maalus,

Denuvo, not whatever you said

Psythik,

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  • LunarLoony,
    @LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Oh no, someone misspelt a brand name, whatever shall we do

    Psythik,

    IDK but I hope someone comes along with an answer

    bjoern_tantau,
    @bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

    It’s what I do with Denuvo games. De non vue.

    Zedd_Prophecy,

    Fit Girl Repacks here we go.

    NigelFrobisher, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

    The evolution of game design has basically been dead for a few years now, so shouldn’t the process just get cheaper?

    Lemminary,

    For AAA games, maybe, but not for indie. The best and most innovative games out there are not made by major studios.

    mostlikelyaperson,

    Obsidian hasn’t been an indie for at least 7 years now.

    ms_lane,

    This is a ‘AAA’ game.

    Lemminary,

    I meant generally about game design. I’m not talking about this game, although it looks interesting.

    abbotsbury,
    @abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

    Fidelity and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the budget size

    LostWanderer, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

    I won’t buy this at full price, when Outer World’s two goes on sale at 50% or more off, that is when I will buy it! By then, all the major bugs should be resolved, and new content will be making this game even better. I blame Obsidian Games from not trying to shout down Microsoft and fight them in a Waffle House parking lot over this price.

    MimicJar,
    @MimicJar@lemmy.world avatar

    While the company would love you to buy it at launch for $80, they’re fine if you wait for a (first party) sale.

    Look at the first Outer World. At launch sold for $60. Three months post launch, $50. Six months post launch, $40. One year post launch, $30.

    If this new game sells the exact same, but starts at $80, they’re ahead. Even if the $80 number scares away a lot of people, they’re ahead. Only if it scares away a shit ton of people will it be a problem.

    LostWanderer,

    In a way, I hope it scares enough gamers away that it sends a message. I want there to be repercussions, Nintendo might get away with it (due to fanbase), but other companies need to be curtailed and fast!

    MimicJar,
    @MimicJar@lemmy.world avatar

    Nintendo gets away with it because their games rarely have a discount. An $80 game today will be $80 in a year. After several years you sometimes get a limited discount for their best selling games. A bundle or a voucher can be a small loss leader, usually if you buy one of something you buy another.

    The other thing of course is that Nintendo makes absolutely top tier games. The fan base is earned. You can buy a Mario or Zelda game, knowing nothing about it, and it’s going to be good. Pokemon is the obvious exception here, the mainline games are fine, but would be nothing without the brand. (I also won’t forgive them for Super Mario Party, that was a $30 game, not $60.)

    I don’t expect $80 games to go away, because as long as someone will pay it, it’s free money. But if sales slump too much in the long run I do see quick discounts, possibly even for Nintendo games.

    Soggy,

    Nintendo makes pretty good games but nothing about their product is “top tier”. The online experience is terrible, their flagship games suffer from framerate dips, pop-in, and stuttering because they don’t invest in better hardware, and speaking of hardware they went with the same will-break-down-and-drift sticks because they’ve been coasting for ages. Meanwhile they’re suing fan projects into the dirt and growing increasingly out of touch. (Sony and Xbox are hot on their heels, the big three could really do with some outside competition)

    MimicJar,
    @MimicJar@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh I absolutely agree there are plenty of criticisms about the company itself and their other offerings, but the games are absolutely top tier.

    Their online is miles behind, games from Smash Bros to Mario Maker to Mario Kart could all be improving with better online, but since they were terrible at online I never used them, but those games were still excellent.

    A lower powered system or poorly optimized game has some frame rate dips or stuttering, but never in a way that gameplay was affected. I know people will disagree but I’ve never had an issue with it.

    Yes, joycon drift is a real problem. But that’s a hardware problem. We should absolutely give Nintendo shit for hardware problems.

    Suing fan projects or being aggressive about YouTube/Twitch take down, all fair. Fuck Nintendo for all that.

    But all of that is different from their games being solid. I don’t blame people who choose to emulate their games, they’re awesome games.

    I’ll give you that Sony might be competitive, I don’t see Xbox/Microsoft anywhere close. I think Valve and the SteamDeck are probably 4th in the race, but Valve has to actually make a game. They made great games and should continue to do so.

    Soggy,

    The fan base is earned.

    This is what I have a problem with. The fan base WAS earned but now is taken for granted.

    You can’t just pretend that online play isn’t important for multiplayer games. It’s a huge knock against the titles you mentioned.

    Kirby and the Forgotten Land tries so hard to keep gameplay smooth that any enemies more than like 15 feet away drop to 8fps and it still dips when there’s too many effects on screen. Breath of the Wild simply banishes mobs that get too far away (or just run for too long) to keep the memory functional (and many things don’t even render at the edge of bow range). Super Mario Odyssey also aggressively culls actors and gets a bit sad when you force too much on screen (high up in Metro Kingdom, for example) It might not matter to you but it impacts the game enough for me to notice it.

    I simply don’t think that you can trust a Nintendo game to be worth the day 1 cost.

    MimicJar,
    @MimicJar@lemmy.world avatar

    I suppose the reason I’m so forgiving of the online features, is that I don’t use them. They’re a nice little addition for sure, but I do not see them as core to the game.

    I think it’s embarrassing that they’re sooooo far behind. Definitely if they’re a thing you’re expecting, it’s going to sour your view of the game.

    Performance is a personal thing.You’re not alone, it’s a common complaint, I won’t deny that. I’ve played all three of those games, Kirby, Zelda & Mario but never remember having an issue. I’m sure I did, but it never stuck with me. I remember Arceus looking like an GameCube game. But I also remember completing the Pokedex 100%.

    I was burned by Super Mario Party, so that franchise is dead to me. Maybe others will burn me too.

    I think the Switch 2 launching with just Mario Kart was a huge mistake. No Mario. No Zelda. I can’t remember the last time that happened. Donkey Kong is coming soon, and it’s supposedly similar to Oddessy… But we’ll have to see. There are great DK games, but he’s no Mario and it’s been a while.

    Lemminary,
    valkyrieangela, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

    GabeN save us

    GeneralEmergency,

    Yes. The libertarian monopolist will save gaming.

    Rai,

    Ah yes, classic Steam, paying devs big money to make their new release exclusive to Steam and unable to be purchased on any other lau—oh wait, that was another company?!

    Well, at least now you have the capitalist monopoly here to save you! All hail!

    GeneralEmergency,

    You are aware there were other digital distribution platforms that Steam put out of business, by those practices.

    Hell. They made publishers release physical disc copies of PC games, only for forced Steam integration, locking the on disc content behind a wall.

    Bentheredonethat, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

    When game prices reach 80 dollars, I reach an era where games have ceased to be that important. Path of exile all year long

    M137,
    @M137@lemmy.world avatar

    You don’t need to get just new games. Do what a ton of people do: wait till they’re on sale. There is literally no hurry, wait till any game reaches the price point you think its worth. And then you get the best possible version of the game, both in terms of patches, most of the time with DLC included and the modding community has had time to make stuff (if that’s relevant).

    KairuByte,
    @KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    🏴‍☠️

    fxomt, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

    Heavy respect to obsidian. Outer worlds is a great game, i wish i could buy full price going to obsidian only. Fuck M$

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