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Bentheredonethat, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

When game prices reach 80 dollars, I reach an era where games have ceased to be that important. Path of exile all year long

M137,
@M137@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t need to get just new games. Do what a ton of people do: wait till they’re on sale. There is literally no hurry, wait till any game reaches the price point you think its worth. And then you get the best possible version of the game, both in terms of patches, most of the time with DLC included and the modding community has had time to make stuff (if that’s relevant).

slazer2au, do games w Well played, Todd: You can see Skyrim, or at least its tallest mountain, from the edge of Oblivion Remastered

You can see the mountain range that borders 2 countries? Stop the fucking presses.

EighthLayer, do gaming w Star Wars Outlaws doesn't let you free aim and fire from your speeder because Massive didn't want you to "feel as if you can ride in and assault people"
@EighthLayer@lemmy.world avatar

But it’s called Star Wars Outlaws.

BruceTwarzen,

Disney outlaws.

Hadriscus,

Star Wars In-Laws

Aatube, do gaming w Popular Female Skyrim Modder Has Abandoned Her Work Due to Daily Harrassment

now before anyone gets misled by some of the reddit threads gamesradar linked to, some quotes from the relevant reddit thread:

I worked extensively on most of her mods. In the period immediately following the Daegon 2.0 controversy, I tracked down several recurring trolls (people here might remember them as cycling through Reddit usernames like "SeranasStankPussy" and other such things) as originating from literal Kiwifarms.

She made a female follower mod called Daegon. It was a suggestive follower with sexy voice and looks, and "bratty princess" personality.

There was an idea about developing romance option for the follower. The fans were so excited about it. However she ended up adding a bodyguard character as Daegon's romantic partner instead of opening the options to player. Daegon also had a major backstory rewrite, which was deemed as straying too far from TES lore. Fans felt betrayed. The backlash was so fervently hostile that anything the author posted always received downvotes and she was demeaned/harassed for posting anything (something like "you dare to show your face here?"), even when it's not related to Daegon.

At the time, she removed the old version and people leaked her discord server chat, which was very hostile and demeaning to the people complaining.

Basically: the mod author developed and people on her discord developed a para-social relationship and it went as expected. You can search this sub for that whole thing

There's more details on her discord (as usual):

my photos get passed around on skyrim servers, im called a slut and whore, and for what?

gamesradar linked to a few of the threads that got overwhelmed with trolls, who amplified how she blocked users (some of which inappropriately) from her mod pages and claimed she encouraged her fans to doxx people based on a single out-of-context screenshot of a random discord fan.

Track_Shovel,
@Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net avatar

Christ, humanity at its best.

winterayars,

Sounds like the exact kind of entitled, whiny man babies i was expecting.

YarrMatey,

This is a both sides suck here for me.

I read a few of the reddit threads and there were legitimate criticisms that the follower started out cringey and edgy but a lore-friendly bratty elf and then after some big update the follower was turned into an over-the-top melodramatic edgy super evil non-lore-friendly entity (vampire demon dragon princess from another reality that is more powerful than any of the gods of TES) who now had a boyfriend equally evil with many voice lines about how much the two of them were horny for each other, and like to burn down inns full of people for fun.

There were some cringey guys upset they were being cucked, too many gamers in general are obsessed about the possibility of being cucked by some pixels and are ridiculously fragile about it.

But the mod author lashed out at both the trolls and people caught in the crossfire, the community became more upset, just an angry cycle. People asked about being able to download the old version before the changes since the mod author hid the older version - Nexus doesn’t allow mod authors to delete their work anymore so people’s mod lists don’t break but they for some stupid reason allow mod authors to hide older versions from users which can only be accessed by having the right link and it is a pain to get. Eventually the mod author releases the older version again as its own mod. But at this point the community hates them because of an image showing someome on the mod author’s discord talking about doxxing anyone who upset the mod author which the author offered gleeful support of.

There was a guy in the thread (ZootAllures9111) who said he helped develop and code the mod (you quoted him in your comment) and he said that practically all criticisms were trolls from kiwifarms, and that the person who wanted to doxx others on the discord was just being silly and edgy and only disingenuous people would take their silly edginess at face value. Also that they won’t play “this game with you” when asked how the mod author responded to this person wanting to doxx people because (CW:transphobia) the only image you need to look at is some random troll on a website called kiwifarms complaining about being a third wheel to two horny NPCs in the mod and something about being a cuck and that other followers don’t need sex to sell basically. Then when someone in the reddit thread asks why they keep posting and deleting their same comment with someone else chiming in confirming they also noticed this, the guy offers a reasonable explanation about network issues and then says, “I remember you from the comment sections of our mods now by the way, you are exactly as disingenous as I thought yesterday and you’re not gonna get anywhere pretending otherwise.” Which the innocent guy replies, “You should maybe take a break because you’re getting paranoid now. I’ve never used your mod, have no intention to, and the first time I’ve heard of all this drama was when this thread came up.”

Why mention this? Because I think it is shitty to “joke” about doxxing people and defend this “joking” and call everyone speaking out a troll from kiwifarm and I can see why the community doesn’t like the direction the author took and how annoying it is to not be able to go back to an older version of the mod. And I’ve read the threads, they were not overwhelmed with trolls unless you think people who criticize a mod author are always trolls. But I also think it is shitty and unacceptable how much harassment the author got. They are not the first author to get harassed off of Skyrim modding, even Vilja’s author was chased off for IMO stupid reasons. The Skyrim modding community is full of assholes, both mod authors and users alike. It used to be routine how many mod authors would lose their shit and delete their mods.

Aatube,

i get that there's valid criticism, but the amount of bad was incongruent with the amount of vitriol in that era that were so demanding

the mod author lashed out at both the trolls and people caught in the crossfire

where tho

it is shitty to "joke" about doxxing people

definitely, but none of us have seen the context. i've been having trouble finding the discord server, and it'd be great if you could find it and the context

they were not overwhelmed with trolls

that's how they read, especially when you compare their comments to the reddit post i linked. not even the sympathy for a person who leaves explains the difference to me

YarrMatey,

I typed a long ass comment on my phone and summit crashed not saving any of it, fucking hell. Anyway I have to refind all the comments again.

Here is where:

u/WoodenRocketShip

People absolutely dragged the mod and the mod author when the update with her boyfriend came out. Normally if people got that mad over something that happens in a mod you’d get pushback from others saying that it’s just not for you and it’s not your place to judge, but the mod author was also silencing critics and absolutely going off with her army of followers, so yeah no pushback everyone was on the same page. For a couple of weeks she and her mod were the big bads of this subreddit.

u/Live_Hippo_5885

That’s a bit wild silencing your critics changing her race and backstory is a bit drastic but it’s their mod I suppose, I don’t really care that she has a boyfriend I like having a bro to adventure with dude’s just kind of a dick imo.

u/WoodenRocketShip

Yeah see if it was just that, then I’d just chalk it up as a mod that I’m uninstalling and never thinking about it again as I barely liked Daegon before. If the mod author didn’t go around silencing criticism in the mod’s comments, some of which wasn’t even criticism and was from genuine fans curious about certain things, then I don’t think many people would have said anything.

People on this thread claimed they were banned for not liking the mod, asking questions about the mod, etc. before the comments section was removed altogether.

The context of the discord image joking about doxxing given by the Zoot guy defending the mod author is that it was a random discord user who they did not know who was known for being overdramatic and later on they think someone else told the user to cool it. Doxxing is serious to me so I do not think this context absolves the image, it feels worse since the mod author doesn’t even know the person and just gleefully agrees with them to the point another rando has to tell them to stop. I think the mod author is immature and the random user probably a teenager. It’s the only thing that makes sense why they would joke like that. I’m not digging for the discord, I’ve not only already wasted enough time with this comment since summit crashed on me but also find it a waste of time.

The thread talking about the mod author leaving was very sympathetic. My original comment had the top 9 or 10 comments and a few replies from the thread to prove to you that it was not overwhelmed by trolls. But there is no way I’m doing that again. Just read it yourself. If you still think they are not sympathetic enough then something is seriously wrong with your interpretation.

Aatube,

I actually read the part about banning too many people, though I wouldn't characterize it as "lashing out". I'm pretty sure I included a quote about it but I didn't. Weird.

I wasn't saying they weren't sympathetic enough, I'm saying that the amount of criticizing here is way too little compared to the two threads linked in the article to shrug off as caused by sympathy.

YarrMatey,

I think it is lashing out to ban people for no reason. They were so upset by the trolls that people with legitimate criticisms were banned (which Zoot says they never had an issue with, it was only trolls they did not like) and then people just curious about the mod and asking questions were also banned.

Sorry, I seem to be misunderstanding you because I do not know what you quite mean anymore. You said “that’s how they read, especially when you compare their comments to the reddit post i linked. not even the sympathy for a person who leaves explains the difference to me” which I thought meant there was an overwhelming amount of people who were trolls for not having sympathy for the mod author leaving. Now you are saying that people were criticizing too much in the other threads, and I’m not sure what is being shrugged off as sympathy.

Aatube,

Since she later reinstated and it was the only banning controversy, I don't think it's something work sticking to the record. "Lashing out" also has the connotation of straight-up attacking people, not just banning them. Not to mention I have yet to see receipts about the bans and for what messages.

So, the amount of criticism is way less in the thread about leaving than the thread, say, "I'm sad about Draego. Like the "pushback from others saying that it's just not for you and it's not your place to judge" was buried and never seen (by default sorting) in the Daegon threads. I don't think this difference in community opinion can be explained by just the sympathy for leaving alone.

FenrirIII,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

I had once respectfully provided feedback to that mod author because their female companion character (Daegon) was the worst kind of Mary Sue and complained nonstop. Author banned me from all their forums because they couldn’t accept valid criticism.

Metal_Zealot, do gaming w GTA 6 and Alan Wake parent companies are locked in a trademark dispute over the letter ‘R’
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

Remember when King tried to trademark the word Candy?

painfulasterisk,

I didn’t know about this one. The first one that popped in my head was this

“In 2016, the Fine Brothers, formerly known as FBE, attempted to trademark the word “react” for their reaction videos.”

Metal_Zealot,
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

Lol I forgot about that too! Fucking morons

kindenough,
@kindenough@kbin.social avatar

Me too, looked it up just now, still 20 million followers. Loads and loads of morons.

superduperenigma,

Remember when Apple invented rectangles with rounded edges?

DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

“this is Microsoft fault. Please don’t blame us.”

Gotta say props for having the balls to say that

BarbecueCowboy,

It sounds nice, and yeah, that’s primarily publisher responsibility, but developers are allowed to talk to their publishers about pricing strategy. Framing it as if they have zero responsibility is a bit of a cop out. Limited comments and we don’t have the full story, but it makes it kind of sound like they didn’t even bring it up.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

We don’t know if they tried to “talk” to Microsoft and they said “do as your fucking told.”

MyDarkestTimeline01,

Absolutely. Sure Publishers want their cut, but it’s an agreement between Dev and pub. This just feels like Bungie blaming Acti-Blizz for all the things people didn’t like about Destiny.

katze,

You’re trying too hard to put the blame on the wrong party.

BarbecueCowboy,

I already addressed that, but more than one party can shoulder blame at the same time, not everything is black and white.

kortex64,

Microsoft isn’t their publisher, they’re their owner. You’re utterly deluded if you think Obsidian is in any capacity to talk the price down with Microsoft, especially after Avowed failed.

LostWanderer, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

ROFL I guess these dudes want to live a power fantasy through Geralt instead of accepting the natural next step; since they are following the Witcher Books for the most part, Ciri was bound to be the lead character. I feel the Witcher 4 will be an excellent game, there’s interesting ground to cover with Ciri. The only bad thing will be if there is no first person mode, as I tend to avoid games with women as leads…I like to look at men from behind, not ladies. I hope the art team chose a design that doesn’t try to make her into a thirst trap (as that low-key makes me not want to play games with female leads).

FunnyUsername,
@FunnyUsername@lemmy.world avatar

i promise you’ll be able to trace her ass crack through her jeans

LostWanderer,

hurls a little in my mouth ROFL I hope not.

grue,

Wait, so are you the one who did this?

jjjalljs,

Maybe I spend too much time here because I knew what that was before I clicked it

LostWanderer,

ROFL Never, good looking male butts are so rare in video games… I could never do that to Astarion, as I don’t find it particularly overwhelming. I see so many guys that have occasionally well-defined cheeks in pants, it’s a feature, not a bug. This was a Kinsey Scale 2 guy who was way too uncomfortable with how often his eyes drifted to Asatrion’s rear, as that digital man has a whole bakery.

harrys_balzac,

Thong customization.

DeathsEmbrace,

If I can’t have stripes or polka dots this game is not worth it.

vxx,

I have a friends that’s the same. She refuses ro play witcher 3 because you cant pick a female character.

dragonfucker,

This is understandable if someone has a strong gender identity. Most people don’t have much of a gender so it’s less important to them.

kux,

Could also be about your conception of what you’re doing in a game - are you being the character, or controlling them

dragonfucker,

That’s why drag personally believes all RPGs with character customisation should have gender selection unless there’s a very good reason why not. The one good exception drag has seen is Pentiment - in that game you’re a mediaeval writer who hangs out with the monks at the Abbey. That story can’t be authentic with a woman player character. But that’s a very rare situation. Even games with named main characters can have gender select. Look at Prey and Mass Effect. It’s an accessibility feature.

kux,

Been meaning to try pentiment, is it any good?

dragonfucker,

Yes.

LostWanderer,

In first person, there is no issue playing a female lead for me. I just have an issue with the common thirst trap design which has been a default design choice in games. As a gay dude, I find that sort of objectification is gross (the same is true for lead men in games. Except in the games that’s the point).

Especially when the camera does that pan to that lady lead’s ass in third person…Its not the vibe I seek when playing a game. 🙃

Any game with a leading lady that is serving cunt without the objectification I can easily play. Bayonetta is an example of one such game, she’s a force of nature, it feels as if she has a strong sense of agency. She’s not been made just for the male gaze.

InternetCitizen2,
@InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world avatar

I guess these dudes want to live a power fantasy through Geralt instead of accepting the natural next step;

I thought this was going to say something about looking inward or something. Like being inspired to be the best self you can.

That’s on me.

And009,

Hope you didn’t skip tomb raider

LostWanderer,

I 100% did, as the weird torture porn-esque deaths bothered me. I could’ve played if that questionable design choice wasn’t made…

And009,

Got ‘The last revelation’ as a gift, those puzzle solving frustrations are etched deep down. Still far from the worsts.

Trainguyrom,

The death cutscenes were absolutely gratitudous in the first entry, but honestly, if you can get past that the whole series is quite good and it’s really great storytelling and acting watching Laura arc from terrified recent college graduate put into unthinkable situations that she must find a way to survive all the way to cocky know-it-all who must literally nearly end the entire world and accidentally kill many countless innocent people to finally find hubris and actually start being a decent human being

LostWanderer,

I did watch someone else play it (they cut out a lot of the death scenes). I liked the evolution of the character, as she grew despite being put in situations that were wilder than what any normal college graduate would face in the real world. Learning from her decisions, and not being broken by them, is something that I admire about the character building of Laura. I hope any future games won’t have those gratuitous as fuck death scenes or that lead dev dude who wanted players to feel ‘protective’ over Laura (dude was a weirdo).

Trainguyrom,

lead dev dude who wanted players to feel ‘protective’ over Laura (dude was a weirdo).

Oh yuck!

The good news is past the first game the death cutscenes are far less gratuitous, and honestly as long as you’ve got decent enough reactions you don’t see very many of them. The third game in particular puts a ton of effort into being respectful, including for example, actually having NPCs speak in local languages with English subtitles rather than a crowd in Mexico City all speaking English for example

LostWanderer,

That’s another detail that I loved, natural spoken language felt like an immersive choice, which served to make me feel like I was part of the game (even though I was watching someone else play). It sucks that more games don’t do this, especially if they are set in foreign places.

PanArab,
@PanArab@lemm.ee avatar

I like to look at men from behind, not ladies.

I’m the exact opposite, but nothing wrong with your preference.

Kelly, (edited ) do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"

They have taken the survivors.wiki domain.

I wonder if they are planning spinoffs with other themes?

Edit: typo

Mozingo,
@Mozingo@lemmy.world avatar

survivors.wiki *

Kelly,

Thanks

RizzRustbolt,

Accountant Survivors coming in October.

RightHandOfIkaros, do xbox w Starfield surpasses 6 million players to become Bethesda's best launch yet, beating Skyrim and Fallout

Good, the game is fantastic.

newthrowaway20,

I have complaints, but over all I’m having a lot of fun. Pretty typical with any Bethesda game to be honest.

Corran1138,

You’ll fix every complaint and be able to make every man in the game into a waifu once mods are officially added. It’s gonna be a game I play for the next 5-10 years for sure.

gravitas_deficiency,

Oh yeah. It definitely has that classic Bethesda jank in many of the normal places, but it still feels good in all the ways that matter. Like you’re finally awake.

Graphine,

Yeah. Skyrim is my top 5 favorite games of all time but I got issues with that game for sure. It’s not perfect. But damn is it a blast.

Feeling the same with Starfield, I got issues, but the core of it is so fun. Having way more fun with it than Fallout 4.

Quentinp,
@Quentinp@lemmy.ca avatar

Agreed it’s not perfect but it slowly sucked me in more and more. Ready for NG+

Graphine,

Fair warning about NG+: Think long and hard about it when you do. That is all.

Quentinp,
@Quentinp@lemmy.ca avatar

?

Ethanice,

It really is. I can't stop playing it.

worfamerryman, do gaming w Hades player beats unmodded 64 Heat difficulty run - "arguably unachievable in thousands of hours"

Website has a link to a Reddit post which is just a link to YouTube. How many jumps did I need to make to watch the video at the source?😂

wahming,

Aren’t all the videos linked directly from OP’s post?

RogueBanana,

I think he was just criticizing the journal website not op

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yeah, OP’s videos in the posts were the exact ones I would have linked. Go watch those.

Haelian’s reaction is more informative than just being an average reaction video, because he describes the decision making in the choices Angel1c made.

inclementimmigrant, do games w Borderlands 4 boss tells players "please get a refund from Steam if you aren't happy" as Randy Pitchford continues his very public crashout over the FPS's performance woes

Dude is a never ending source of stupidity.

So it’s been reported that the PS 5 suffers from performance issues, especially during long play periods due to being perfectly optimized and this is his latest response:

“Known issue of perf dropping on PS5 pro after several hours of continuous play,” he said. “Workaround until we patch: Quit game and restart. Sorry for the friction!”

Zahille7,

I mean, he’s an airheaded out-of-touch fellow-kids piece of shit, but he’s not entirely wrong about restarting a game if it starts getting fucky after several hours of continuous play.

Also, I’d suggest to just about anyone that they should probably at least get up and walk around, maybe get some fresh air, if you’re gonna be gaming all day. Your devices need breaks too.

treesquid,

He’s not wrong, but a game you have to do that to isn’t made very well.

BeardedBlaze,
@BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world avatar

Lol @ devices need breaks too. What an absolute nonsense.

Suburbanl3g3nd,

If you’re cold, they’re cold. Bring them inside

inclementimmigrant,

Honestly for a new game three or for hours sessions on a game like this is pretty normal and people are saying that it’s a constant drop in performance after just an hour or two and continues to get worse until your running like your in a 1070.

And no these consoles and computers are not expected to need a break after just a two hours of running, that’s not how good applications work.

chronicledmonocle,

Devices don’t “need breaks”. This problem is indicative of a memory leak, which means they coded something shitty.

Sure, playing for 7 hours straight is excessive, but this shouldn’t happen.

vaultdweller013,

The only games I know of that need to restart every once in awhile are Paradox games and ultra modded Bethesda games. Paradox because sometimes the game needs a restart to let the AI reprioritize and for Bethesda it’s because of memory leaks that become a problem after too many mods. The fact that Borderlands 4 is that bad out of the box is fucking sad.

Puzzlehead, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version
@Puzzlehead@reddthat.com avatar

If you have to buy it, you own it. Make it free to play but have in game purchases. Everyone knows free games can shut down any time. I play lot of mobile apps until I get tired of playing it, then delete.

I avoid buying games that requires online connection. It means the game is unplayable without it.

It’s sickening what companies can get away with just because it’s legal. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

Contemporarium,

Get balatro you’ll never get bored :)

funkless_eck,

I’ve beaten most of the Gold Stakes and all of the challenges, its not a forever game. But it is fun.

satans_methpipe,

Gambling isn’t the answer.

ohshit604,
@ohshit604@sh.itjust.works avatar

And lying isn’t the answer either.

Korhaka,

Seem a few comments recently that seem to think cards = gambling. Balatro doesn’t even use a vaguely standard deck of cards though.

Not that it would matter if it did. But would freecell be considered gambling?

rumba,

Balatro isn’t gambling so win:win

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

I’m tired of all the pixel art indie card games.

Blazingtransfem98,
@Blazingtransfem98@discuss.online avatar

There are better games to play if gambling is your thing.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ve enjoyed the hell out of Buckshot Roulette. It’s about playing Russian Roulette. With a pump action shotgun. There’s power-ups!

Contemporarium,

….what? If gambling was my thing I’d be gambling.

cyberpunk007, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

I’ve been avoiding Ubisoft games for quite some time. And blizzard. And a handful of other studios because of these bullshit shenanigans.

Lost_My_Mind,

I wish people would take your stance on GTA 6.

Instead, I’m sure it’ll be like “100 billion copys sold in first hour!”

uis,

This is why boycott doesn’t work. They copy each other. So, grab pitchforks and torches(EU citizens only).

ampersandrew, do games w 6 years and 1 prolonged delay later, Xbox is still calling "incredible" Hollow Knight: Silksong one of its "upcoming games"
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

There’s a beta test branch on Steam that was uploaded 5 months ago, and the game has been age rated in South Korea. Yes, that game is coming. For good reason, it’s also the belle of the ball when it comes to marketing deals, so as much as it’s a meme to say maybe it’s at the next Nintendo Direct, it might be at the next Nintendo Direct. For everyone’s sake, I hope it gets its release date soon so that we can stop talking about it.

JPAKx4,

If it was at the direct, they would have rolled with the “teasers” that people invented

burgerpocalyse, do games w Valve adds "all the Team Fortress 2 client and server game code" to its Source mod tools, letting modders "build completely new games based on TF2" and publish them on Steam

it only took 18 years and also several years of radio silence after some mod authors asked them to clarify the legality of their work

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