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dopeshark, do games w Here are all the Golden Joystick Awards 2023 winners
@dopeshark@lemmy.world avatar

Starfield for the xbox? Poor xbox…

plumbus,

I‘m quite enjoying it.

9715698,

Me too, and I don’t recall much other competition. Forza Motorsport had promise, but definitely needed another 6mo to cook

BorgDrone,

Me too, and I don’t recall much other competition.

That’s mainly because the xbox gaming landscape is a wasteland.

plumbus,

I‘m quite enjoying it.

BorgDrone,

What are you playing Starfield or the other game?

plumbus,

Right now I’m mainly playing Starfield, have started Alan Wake remastered and only quickly tested Forza Motorsport.

Before Starfield came out I played through some of the Game Pass Library: AC Origins, A short Hike, Bramble, Quake II, Lego Starwars, Lego City Undercover, Planet of Lana, Tunic, lots of Witcher 3, A Plague Tale Requiem, High on Life, Starwars Jedi Fallen Order and many more.

BorgDrone,

So basically a both xbox games (Starfield & Forza) and a bunch of old, multiplat and indie games.

Not really a good reason to get an xbox over a PS5 which has a string of amazing exclusives. Let alone the fact that there is no VR support on xbox (why even bother releasing a racing game without VR in 2023?).

plumbus,

I paid 500€ for a Xbox Series X and three years of Game Pass Ultimate, and as I said twice before:

I‘m quite enjoying it.

BorgDrone,

Imagine having to play mediocre games for three years.

altima_neo, do games w After 27,000+ Steam reviews, Overwatch 2 is graded as 'Overwhelmingly Negative'
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Because it’s s shit game

Contend6248,

From a shit company.

They earned their reputation pretty hard

Copernican, do games w $843 million lawsuit against Valve already has its own website: "The Steam Claim" accuses the biggest store in PC gaming of "overcharging" players

How is Lemmy so anti corporate, but bends over backwards to defend steam as an immaculate corporation. I love steam, and 90% of my game purchases or from their store. 5% are from stores that let me redeem steam keys.

I think their market position should have some scrutiny.

catloaf,

Lemmy is not a monolith.

Copernican,

Obviously. I’m Lemmy and against that. But there are dominant pov’s on Lemmy that saturate threads and are reflected in up votes and down votes

Fubarberry,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

A few reasons:

  • I feel like any other major company with Steam’s marketshare would be far less consumer friendly than steam.
  • Steam funnels a lot of money into Linux, and Linux is very popular on Lemmy. If you use Linux, you are benefiting from Steam’s success.
  • Steam is just nice to use, and has good deals. It’s nice to have my games in one place, and I don’t know if any other storefront with as many nice user benefiting features as steam.
Copernican,

I agree with all these things. But I dont understand the hail corporate mentality of being upset or knee jerk defending steam. I’m curious to see where the suit goes and evaluate if I should consider joining a class action suit as I learn more.

vaultdweller013,

I think theres also the secondary unstated factor some of us have, that being that Steam is working as a solid buffer against more malignant groups. The fact that Steam is for a lack of a better term incorruptible is frankly very useful, especially with groups like the Saudis and China investing a lot of money and influence into gaming recently. Better a flawed but ultimately decent corporation than whatever the fuck the Saudis or China would replace it with.

Kedly,

Its more we’re defending against Steams competition and dont want to see them gain any ground (Except itch and GoG, they’re cool)

the_toast_is_gone,

They’re not immaculate. They used to outright deny people the right to refund their games, but they turned that around after a massive lawsuit from a government agency. Good change! I support that. But they’re not behaving in an anti-competitive manner. What, are they supposed to intentionally make themselves worse in the hopes that other stores pop up? That’s not how any of this works.

SuperIce,

Mainly because Steam actually provides a really good quality service. Most corporations over time charge more while getting worse on quality. People can sell their games for cheaper on Epic which only has a 12% fee, but Epic’s service is much worse.

furikuri,

Yup. If Steam wasn’t around I’d have the joy of choosing between Epic, Origin, GOG (actually not bad but no official Linux client can be annoying), or GFWL (which would probably still be around in this situation)

Kedly,

We’ll let their position have some scrutiny when the PC marketplace has some actual decent competition, I’d rather not shoot the PC gaming sphere in the foot just because Lemmy hates corporations.

UKFilmNerd, do gaming w After 23 years, developer reveals he snuck a cheat code past Sony that turns a cult-classic horror game into a godsend for retro enthusiasts
@UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk avatar

What the article didn’t mention, and it says in the video, Alien: Resurrection was possibly going to be a multi cd game at one point and the dev was experimenting with the code to get that working.

Lemmitor, do games w Destiny 2's new $15 "Starter Pack" is a bunch of junk and the last thing the MMO needed right now

They’re squeezing whatever they can out of this game before its final whimper. The only people that would buy this $15 pack are people who don’t know anything about the game. Marketing it as a “starter pack” is so disingenuous that I can’t believe that Bungie had any other motive in mind than to con a few unaware people who are unlucky enough to pick up this game on a sale.

Maybe if they’d finally do something about the new player experience (specifically, the lack of one) this game could actually go back to its heyday. But they’re just committed to enshitifying it further with FOMO tactics, convoluted expansion/season pass/dungeon pass models.

I mean just try selling your friends on a game when you explain to them how much the upfront cost is to actually play the “real” game.

kryllic, do games w More than Skyrim or Fallout, Todd Howard says Starfield was "intentionally made to be played for a long time" and Bethesda's looking 5+ years ahead
@kryllic@programming.dev avatar

They released the game 5 years too late, it was clearly made for a different market

sirico, do games w Doom: The Dark Ages is introducing big changes to combat because id Software came to one core realization: "Every projectile mattered in the original Doom"
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Could have been Hexen

grrgyle,

God please

Hypx, do gaming w Starfield design lead says players are "disconnected" from how games are actually made: "Don't fool yourself into thinking you know why it is the way it is"
@Hypx@kbin.social avatar

Without delving into the question over how good the game is, this sounds like a company that simply has the wrong processes in place. A case of "working hard" instead of "working smart." As a result, they waste a lot of time and resources on things that ultimately don't matter. I'm sure the person in question worked really really hard on the game, but it's mostly pointless and ineffectively effort.

Stillhart,

…this sounds like a company that simply has the wrong processes in place

LOL! OMG, I totally thought you were talking about their process for dealing with negative press/reviews. What’s funny is that your comment basically applies to both your point and mine and that kinda reinforces the point for both versions…

LucidNightmare, do games w Diablo 4 dev on winning players back with Season 2: "It feels like it's enough of a motivating factor for people to come back and play"

“Ah, yes. I am developer of game, and I promise it’s fun to play! You’ll have so much fun! Please play our game, my paycheck depends on it!”

mrbogus, do games w More than Skyrim or Fallout, Todd Howard says Starfield was "intentionally made to be played for a long time" and Bethesda's looking 5+ years ahead

Vast and “Empty” ==/== years of content

jordanlund, do xbox w Starfield surpasses 6 million players to become Bethesda's best launch yet, beating Skyrim and Fallout
!deleted7836 avatar

Forget Barbenheimer, I’m going full on Balder’s Field and playing both.

So far, Baldur’s Gate III seems deeper. Just starting on Starfield.

melroy,
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Still existentialism related.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

its kinda wild to me that balders gate 2 was i think 23 years ago and then i suddenly hear about 3

Nahlej,

I’m nearing 100 hours in BG3 and absolutely loving it. I’m not even into the full Act 2 yet, still making my way through the act 1 - act 2 transition/passages.

Choices matter, characters matter, story matters… shit is so fun

I’ve got Starfield through gamepass just waiting to go but I’m still trying to get motivated to start…

Corran1138,

If it helps, you have to put in some work. The first group of missions for the Freestar Rangers has a dialogue option where you can ask for a promotion and the Marshal laughs in your face and tells you to get back to work. That’s like 5 missions in and 3-4 hours. No taking the faction over in a couple of hours.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

BG3 is definitely the deeper game IMHO.

Starfield has some charm – it’s also got a lot of slog and grind and some serious issues with immersion.

RightHandOfIkaros, do xbox w This website has the interactive Starfield maps that should've been in the game

I’ve been loving the default map in the game. Its kinda like going back to the days Bethesda would write out navigation instructions in the quest and let the player use their brain to figure out where to go instead of marking it with a gigantic exclamation mark.

supercheesecake,
@supercheesecake@aussie.zone avatar

Yeah Morrowind was great for that. Felt more old school RPG where you actually had to explore to complete quests.

AlexRogansBeta,

What are you talking about? You don't need to listen to a damn word anyone says. Just follow the waypoints, fast travel to everything. The game is a menu navigation simulator.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

i actually loved needing to remember where stores are, makes me feel like im actually there as a dumbass tourist

WilloftheWest, do gaming w Final Fantasy 6 director is still pushing for a remake

I need a HD train suplex.

nzodd,

Son of a submariner, that would be swell

tyfi, do gaming w Final Fantasy 6 director is still pushing for a remake

My all time favorite

Draedron, do gaming w Helldivers 2 gets delisted in more countries without PSN access, blindsided devs call for it to be "available worldwide" | Gamesrader

Funny how many gamers fall for their good cop bad cop ploy. Fuck both of them.

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Except Arrowhead isn’t some sony-owned subsidiary studio, whose every statement is little more than puppetry.

They are an independently owned company, in a publishing deal with Sony.

By sabotaging the product like this, Sony is straight up stabbing them in the back as a business partner.

Sony can survive botching a game. Arrowhead might not. They’re being polite, but if I was at Arrowhead, I would be fucking livid with Sony right now.

Their supposed sponsor, a rich entity with more than enough capital, is literally trying to risk their lunch because it wants even more.

ImplyingImplications,

They signed a contract with Sony saying they’d require PSN to play the game. They knew this would be a requirement. It’s not like PSN suddenly isn’t available worldwide. They were fine with the deal until players got upset and now they want out of the deal to save face.

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

The problem was never the PSN requirement, it was dropping it on people months after launch. No one would be pissed if it had been enforced from day one.

They don’t want out, they want sony to wise the fuck up and get with the program.

All I’m saying is, this isn’t some planned-in-advance good cop bad cop routine.

Agreeing to terms isn’t the same as watching your business partner mismanage the customer base to the point your lunch goes up in flames.

Sony is the publisher. Launching the game in countries that don’t even have PSN is 100% on them. Sony is taking action that makes no fucking sense in context, no matter what Arrowhead agreed to.

ImplyingImplications,

Lay with dogs, get flees. I don’t pity Arrowhead for signing an anti-consumer contract with an anti-consumer company for money and then realized it hurt their image with consumers. This is the consequences of actions. Maybe their next game will be self published. That was always an option. They didn’t pick that. They picked this.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

That’s all well and good, but then you take issue with the companies involved for completely different, industry spanning, reasons.

That’s not a retort to what I was saying.

ImplyingImplications,

Yes, you’re right. Arrowhead aren’t playing good cop. They deeply regret their decision. As they should. They ruined an amazing game by giving control of it over to Sony. I still agree with the OP. Fuck Arrowhead for ruining an awesome game by giving Sony control.

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Your approach to discussion is similar to that of a wrecking ball.

Next time, just add a single sentence along the lines of “still glad seeing everyone involved anti-consumer bullshit crash and burn”.

That’s still a valid take. But you’re not gonna see the improvement in the industry we all want realized without caring about the nuances, or acknowledging how and when most people actually care.

reksas,

i wish people knew better than buy stuff from certain companies. But they dont and they dont care, so everyone who does care shall suffer.

Kecessa,
hglman,

I think the reason I’m most glad I’m not a lawyer is bc then I would believe that that tiny text is a meaningful gotcha that some how justifies Sony being stupid. No, it wasn’t required bc you could play without signing in. Tiny words don’t define reality.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

I know. But that doesn’t matter much in the face of how it actually got handled and the community reaction it led to.

homesnatch,

There were mixed messages from the beginning… The FAQ stated that PSN login was optional.

thudge_mcgerk,
@thudge_mcgerk@kbin.social avatar

The PSN account being mandatory was always a thing. The only reason why it wasn't implemented was technical issues at launch.

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