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robdor, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Ubisoft can’t be mad at me for not burying any of their games because they don’t make any games.

cyberpunk007, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

I’ve been avoiding Ubisoft games for quite some time. And blizzard. And a handful of other studios because of these bullshit shenanigans.

Lost_My_Mind, 6 miesięcy temu

I wish people would take your stance on GTA 6.

Instead, I’m sure it’ll be like “100 billion copys sold in first hour!”

uis, 6 miesięcy temu

This is why boycott doesn’t work. They copy each other. So, grab pitchforks and torches(EU citizens only).

KingThrillgore, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Gaslighting. That’s a new strategy and a new low.

dissentiate, 6 miesięcy temu

Gas lightning is one of the many disgusting tactics corporate lawyers build their careers on.

Zess, 6 miesięcy temu

Go and learn what gaslighting is so you don’t look so stupid next time you say it.

njm1314, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Ubisoft you can’t complain if I pirate your games, because I never actually bought them and you weren’t deceived by a lack of purchase.

cyberpunk007, 6 miesięcy temu

This is the correct response.

SpicyColdFartChamber, 6 miesięcy temu (edited 6 miesięcy temu)

Hijacking.

Are you European Union Citizen? Do you like games?

Do you want to own games again? and not just “License” them? Then please join the Stop destroying Videogames Initiative.

Initiative - citizens-initiative.europa.eu/…/000007_en

(Only sign if you are a EU citizen!)

It’s an initiative to get the European parliament to discuss the matter all together, and Iirc, it already has some members that support it. (So It’s not just any ordinary petition that will go nowhere.)

We have already collected 42% of the 1 million signatures from European citizens required. But the deadline is June 2025 and if we don’t get enough signatures by then, it won’t be looked at by the European commission. So to at least get the matter to be discussed, please sign!

(ONLY FOR European Union citizens! No one else! Please do not sign if you aren’t an EU citizen. Also No Brits! there’s another initiative for the UK.)

Short video explainer about the initiative - youtu.be/mkMe9MxxZiI

For more info visit www.stopkillinggames.com

You can also view the petitions for other countries - (Australia, Canada, UK, Brazil… and more)

Lost_My_Mind, 6 miesięcy temu

ONLY FOR European Union citizens! No Brits!

signs anyways…is American

SpicyColdFartChamber, 6 miesięcy temu (edited 6 miesięcy temu)

No, please don’t sign if you are American. That can harm the petition with false signatures.

This is strictly ONLY for European union citizens!

Don’t worry, you can still help by spreading the message among your EU friends or family members(You don’t have to be a gamer to care about this or vote in this!). A lot of the exposure to this initiative is lacking when it comes to non-english speaking EU citizens. You can help there.

huppakee, 6 miesięcy temu

reads a request… doesn’t care… is American 🇺🇸

inclementimmigrant, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Oooooooooh, fuck you Ubisoft.

dumbass, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Hey Ubisoft, you can’t complain when I pirate your stupid games, because there’s nothing to own apparently.

Aatube, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Can't Stop Me

toiletobserver, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Take them to small claims for theft. I’ll bet they don’t show up. Then they won’t pay you, so you get a court order and sheriff to recoup your money in assets. Take anything you want and put it on eBay. Collect your money.

Embargo, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

I have the fucking disc to prove I do own it, you arseholes.

Stovetop, 6 miesięcy temu

Sadly, the legal interpretation of copyright says you own the plastic, but not the data it contains. It sucks but it’s not just Ubisoft.

Embargo, 6 miesięcy temu

Well… I can’t say I’ll feel for them when they inevitably complain about myself and many others cracking their games.

catloaf, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Literally just let people host private servers. It worked fine for decades, and still does.

imrighthere, 6 miesięcy temu

The HalfLife model worked exceedingly well, until gaben fucked it all up.

huppakee, 6 miesięcy temu

But then they don’t get money, and they really like getting money.

uis, 6 miesięcy temu

Wait until some blizzard empoyee comes out and tells how it is expensive for publisher to not pay for hosting.

base, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

The best part is they havent made a compelling game in 10 years. So i wont buy a game of them ever again either way. Its an easy life tbh.

ElectroVagrant, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Ubisoft cannot complain when gamers “pirate” their games then.

If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t theft and all that.

p03locke, 6 miesięcy temu

Goddammit… get the quote right:

If buying ain’t owning, piracy ain’t stealing.

Beacon, 6 miesięcy temu

Whose exact quote do you think you're quoting? Every time i hear this phrase it's always said the way OP said it, never the way you said it. Also please try to talk to people in a less pissy way

RightHandOfIkaros, 6 miesięcy temu

Piracy was never stealing, in so far as legality is concerned in the USA, at least.

Stealing requires the owner of the stolen thing to be deprived access of that thing. If someone steals your car, you cannot access it anymore, since it was removed from you by the thief.

Piracy copies your car, meaning you still can access your car but someone else can drive a copy of your car. The first example is a major inconvenience to you, the second example has absolutely no negative effect on you.

It is why instances of piracy that make it to a court of law are tried as Copyright Infringement cases, and not theft or piracy cases. When your ISP spies on you and sends you a letter after you pirate something in an insecure manner, you get sent a Notice of Copyright Infringement, not a Notice of Theft.

AtariDump, 6 miesięcy temu

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/14a9ee93-c5cd-4399-b156-a149877d129b.jpeg

Viking_Hippie, 6 miesięcy temu

In fact, I downloaded a Rimac Nevera just yesterday.

For Cyberpunk 2077, but still. Would, could, did.

state_electrician, 6 miesięcy temu

Exactly. It also means you’re being sued by the copyright holder and not the state. You won’t go to prison for this shit, as opposed to actual theft.

Owlboi, 6 miesięcy temu

Not only is that not a quote, but its not even right. Piracy was never stealing, its copyright infringement.

Fingolfinz, 6 miesięcy temu

Thanks for the clarification, it really drastically changes the meaning when said like this versus op…

Reality_Suit, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

They could always release the source code.

mp3, 6 miesięcy temu do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

If buying isn’t owning, surely that means pirating isn’t stealing.

MudMan, 6 miesięcy temu (edited 6 miesięcy temu) do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

I've been increasingly frustrated with clickbaity coverage and headlines. Credit to Polygon for being just as obviously opinionated as Gamesradar but titling and writing their piece way more professionally.

I mean, yeah, Ubisoft's lawyers are arguing that the arguments of a lawsuit against them are wrong, that's hardly surprising. Given that they're being sued for taking down an online game they would certainly argue that they had no obligation to keep the game online indefinitely.

It's an interesting case and there are... creative arguments on both sides, but being mad that Ubisoft would argue that the text of their EULA applies seems so weird.

For the record, and because I'll be hounded for this, I've signed all relevant petitions to request regulation about digital ownership that creates an obligation to provide offline versions or access to server code. I'm all for making it illegal to build planned obsolescence into software. That doesn't mean I'm not bothered with bad journalism that I happen to agree with.

TachyonTele, 6 miesięcy temu

Hounded? Seriously? Lol

MudMan, 6 miesięcy temu

Be honest, you were ready to do some hounding, saw that tackled preemptively and decided to pivot. I can see the hounding intent from here. Those ears are so droopy you're becoming a better boy as we speak.

TachyonTele, 6 miesięcy temu

Are you a crazy person?

MudMan, 6 miesięcy temu

Not gonna lie, that one led to some introspection and I thank you for the opportunity.

TachyonTele, 6 miesięcy temu

Enjoy the rest of your week!