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FlashMobOfOne, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"
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This pleases me.

p03locke, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"
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Just wanted to point out that wiki.gg is out there as a replacement. There’s even a wiki.gg Redirect plugin for Firefox that takes you to the right place, if you hit a Fandom link.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

Relative to a fandom wiki: I guess? Although you are inherently going to have the same content theft problems where the vast majority of modern wikis are just ripped from the game guides that games media are still paid to prepare.

Relative to an official wiki with developer backing? No, it is not a replacement.

Also: I would generally be very wary of any of the plugins to redirect you since they have VERY broad permissions to… hijack your browser traffic. If you are keeping up to date and monitoring them you are probably fine but that feels like a great example in waiting to find out a bad actor pushed some code last week…

barryamelton,

and then wiki.gg gets bought, as other wikis got. No thanks.

Write content in a community mediawiki maintained by the community instead.

Blackmist,

Instructions unclear.

Locked it behind a Discord community instead. 🤡

lukstru,

I know this is a joke.

But seriously from my heart

Fuck you.

barryamelton,

Guess whose doing an IPO and will sell all its data plus get advertisements everywhere? Yep, Discord…

PM_Your_Nudes_Please, (edited )

For anyone looking for a wonderful example of this, check out the RuneScape wiki. It’s hosted by a company that is partnered with the game maker, and is fully maintained by the community. It is the single most expansive and in-depth wiki I have ever seen. It is truly the gold standard for what a wiki should aspire to be.

It has everything you could need to play the game, all the way down to automatic calculators (with built in character lookup functionality, using the game’s high score leaderboard system) to tell you things like how many of [x] resource you’ll need to get [y] experience, or what your estimated return on investment will be for turning [x] resource into [y] product.

The game has over 250 quests, (and not just basic fetch or kill quests like most MMO’s have) and the wiki has in-depth walkthroughs (including in-game screenshots) for every single one.

You can even open the wiki directly from the game. There’s a “Wiki” button on the chat box, so you can search the wiki directly via chat, and it opens in your desktop browser.

Matthew,

It took many years and plenty of iteration to make it there. It feels like a fever dream remembering the days Sal’s realm and tip.it were king. Remember when the game map wasn’t even in game, they just had a image linked at the top of the webpage?

Sylvartas, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"

Good to see we’re finally fighting back against Fandom

w3dd1e,

Fandom is icky. A few years ago, my mom was getting scammed by some conspiracy guy from LinkedIn who offered her a “job.”

These dudes set up their own fandom wiki to try to make their bullshit seem real. I can’t remember the name of the people involved but one guy was claiming that he was owed 300 trillion dollars by the government. (Can’t remember the exact number but it was astronomically high. More money than exists kinda high)

NuXCOM_90Percent,

A lot of devs of “wiki games” have been doing this lately.

Digital Extremes/Warframe did it a month or two back. And a lot of people have speculated that wiki.warframe.com/…/WARFRAME_Wiki:Stakeholder_Ana… and the old fandom equivalent “explains” it but that is inherently tinfoil and biased speculation.

Mendicant_Bias, do games w Tokyo Xtreme Racer is a novel throwback to classic PS2 racing games like Midnight Club

Any word on how it plays on the Steam Deck?

shadowedcross,
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Seems alright.

PieMePlenty, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"

Very nice to see. Might start playing again to 100% it (yet again) now that there’s an actual useful wiki for it. Always love to see pure media wiki usage. I wish we could just scrub Fandom’s one now.

ray1992xd, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"

Another step was made to reclaim the free internet! I bought dlc inside the game and I’m glad I did.

RichardDegenne, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"

We did the same for The Talos Principle Wiki.

The community is hosting its own MediaWiki rather than rely on Fandom.

CH3DD4R_G0BL1N,
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The Monster Hunter community just did the same: monsterhunterwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

Folks finally got tired of the several horrible options and did it themselves. There’s also a discord for coordinating contributions if so inclined.

duchess,

Honorary mention of Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages, which existed as a fan documentation hub since the mid 90s.

TreseBrothers,

Same for us with the Cyber Knights: Flashpoint wiki. More devs should learn that self-hosting a community wiki for their game is not that hard.

biofaust, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"

I wouldn’t be surprised if the initiative comes from the OG dev of the game, who is Italian: the efforts we go through since 1996 (all I can remember) to avoid ads and popups are of biblical proportions.

I can remember my father taking the PC away from me as soon as he saw I was exposed to one, going “I can take that away, it will be a minute”. It wasn’t a minute.

Thcdenton, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"
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Based dev. Fuck fextralife and fandom

Bloodyhog,

Wat?! Fandom has ads?! Never saw these. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Malix,
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fextralife

Sometimes it feels like fextralife is filled only with stub articles.

me: “Hmm, I wonder about [a thing] in [a game]”

fextralife’s entire article: “[A thing] is a thing in [a game]”

brilliant, thank you.

kepix, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"

shouldnt this be built in the game anyway?

bob_lemon,

It’s still a wiki, I.e. user/community written content.

ryven, do games w Tokyo Xtreme Racer is a novel throwback to classic PS2 racing games like Midnight Club
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The cars make contact so much in this game that it feels like a missed opportunity to not have damage, at least visually. I want to see those cars crumple!

I know it’s typically because of licensing issues, though.

tonytins,
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Can’t have their pretty little cars show a single dent.

Evotech, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"

Best thing that happened to path of exile too, the devs provide the wiki platform for the community

www.poewiki.net

Very based

KickMeElmo,

Warframe just did it too. Fantastic move.

alphapuggle,
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Same thing happened with minecraft.wiki too, people finally got fed up with fandom’s bullshit

Klear,

Same with doomwiki.org and a bunch of others.

muix,

osrs.wiki lets just list them all

RedAggroBest,

I’m surprised the OSRS wiki isn’t mentioned more. The game itself is very community oriented as well.

Benaaasaaas,

OSRS wiki is BY FAR the best wiki in the entire industry.

2ncs,

That’s not the same, Mojang isn’t affiliated with the wiki at all.

bob_lemon,

The Guild Wars 2 (and 1) wiki is also hosted directly by the devs. It’s even accessible via chat command.

wiki.guildwars2.com

billiam0202, (edited )

The fact that in GW2 you can just type

/wiki subject

and get taken to the wiki page for subject is such an amazing and obvious command I’m surprised more games don’t do it.

omarfw,

Goddamn that’s awesome. Had no idea after hundreds of GW2 hours.

billiam0202,

Here’s the most useful one, IMO:

/wiki et

It takes you to the event timers page, so you can see when the world events are going to happen.

bob_lemon,

I also like /wiki ezd which opens a page telling you how to quickly do the daily and weekly objectives.

Fribbtastic,

Not only that but GW2 also can link items and skills in the chat so that someone else can view them. And the best part is that this also works with the wiki command.

So, for example, you found an item and want to know what it is and what you can use to for, just link it after /wiki and you are redirected to the full page of that item.

Unfortunately, I lately have issues with firefox in which the first wiki command somehow screws with my firefox and thinks that it needs to restart before being able to work correctly.

theskyisfalling, do games w Tokyo Xtreme Racer is a novel throwback to classic PS2 racing games like Midnight Club

Having not played any of the previous games I wasn’t sure what to expect going in and I am sort of 50 / 50 on it in general.

It has a good level of polish for something that is at v0.15 or there abouts when I played but there were a lot of negatives for me for example the balancing on the last set of boss “fights” was horrendous but obviously it is early on and hopefully as development moves forward things like that will be addressed.

I hated the upgrade system however which is something I don’t think will change going forward, for example having to “upgrade” your wallet to hold more is stupid. Particularly when you are forced into a couple of boss fights back to back early on. These fights award you with a decent amount of cash upon winning but upon finishing them and returning “home” you are greeted with a screen informing you because those fights went over your wallet capacity that you just lose a couple of mil, which when this happened to me I could have really used for upgrading my car.

Ultimately even though it is less polished I think nightrunners is a far superior game following the same sort of gameplay loop and style of highway racing. It has a more striking aesthetic, the cars look better and have a lot more / better upgrade options, particularly visually. That is made by just one person too, I’m looking forward to its hopeful release later on this year.

Also if you like Japanese cars and modding then check out JDM: Japanese Drift Master due to release at the end of this month, based on the demo version last year this was a lot more fun for me than Tokyo Xtreme.

XeroxCool,

How would you describe the driving mechanics? I tried NFS Heat to feel that retro night vibe, but the mechanics were atrocious in my opinion. They’re too arcadey. Forza Horizon has become my standard for a balance between realistic (predictable) mechanics without punishing me for every mistake. I don’t mind Forza Motorsports but I’m more interested in cruising and racing stylistic cars more than perfecting lap times.

Is it open world? Japan and JDM aren’t that big in my automotive enthusiasm scale but there’s something deeply nostalgic when I can ride through some highway lights, virtual or real, that resemble the Japan track from Gean Turismo 1 or 2

theskyisfalling,

I would describe them as not great currently xD

I haven’t played Heat but like you I like the Forza Horizon balance of pretty arcadey feel with some sim elements mixed in without it really going too far to either extreme.

I don’t want to be excessively harsh on a game that is still pretty early in its development so far but also not having played any of the previous entries I dont know exactly what feel they are going for, so maybe this is already pretty close to their goal (which would be a shame I think)

As it is right now though it is very arcade-y feeling and in all honesty the “upgrades” didn’t really make the car feel any different as I spent money on the car, it was consistent throughout. The cars don’t really corner that well, you cant really initiate a drift or have any real control through the corners to that level, you can yank up the handbrake but the car doesnt slide in a nice, predictable manner at all. You can either use it to cut a lot of speed suddenly in a quick jab or hold it and spin out.

So generally you’ll be driving flat out dodging traffic until a corner at which point you’ll slam on the brakes to cut your speed enough to try and get around the corner without riding the walls (the races use a battle system with “health bars” to win or lose and hitting walls depletes your health bar)

As I said in the previous post as well the opponents definitely need balancing as well as you will often need to cheese the harder battles or just hope to god that they crash and you can get far enough ahead to win. A lot of the AI drivers will hook their front onto your rear and plow you into a wall which is extremely frustrating.

The game itself is set in an open world of sorts. So when you leave for the night you choose which highway entrance to enter on and in which direction. You are then free to cruise the highways (you start with a small loop and then a little more opens up as you play, I presume the full game will have a lot more) and challenge any other vehicle you see to battles. You can race all the civilian trucks or cars if you want or you search for other rival gangs. When you beat a certain amount of members from each gang then you unlock the boss of that gang for a boss battle.

Whilst cruising you are stuck going the direction you began with unless you pull into a parking spot. Here you can chat to random people about inane shit or challenge some others that are parked up. Here you can also leave the parking area to go in the opposite direction on the highway. It is realistic but also frustrating sometimes to try and find a parking area if someone you want to battle is on the opposite side, I wanna have some places where I could illegally switch sides really.

If you dont like JDM shit then I would say the appeal would be even narrower for you cause it is focused on those cars. This is what I love so what kept me involved to see it through but the selection of parts and wheels etc is honestly shite (nightrunners blows it out of the water by a long way in this aspect).

TLDR: you probably won’t like it that much based on what you said, even cruising the majority of the available world is really fucking long straights and is pretty boring and you dont even like JDM stuff :)

XeroxCool,

Thanks for all that extra detail. I’ll put it on a watch list to see where it goes. I’ll just go play in traffic for now

iAmTheTot, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"

Love this, and the site looks great. Wonder what software that is. Is it just mediawiki?

kilgore_trout,

Yes.

iAmTheTot,

Ah, perfect, thank you. I was particularly interested because I just recently dabbled with mediawiki and ended up going with dokuwiki.

hmmm, do games w Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"
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