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passepartout, (edited ) do games w Borderlands 4 boss tells players "please get a refund from Steam if you aren't happy" as Randy Pitchford continues his very public crashout over the FPS's performance woes
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Can someone find an excuse for how this behaviour is not just extremely short sighted / plain stupid? Never heard of the guy before, but he seems to behave like a petty little child throwing a tantrum for something that is obviously his or some of his near colleagues fault. Comparable level of stupidity to “Do you guys not have phones?” lol.

I think they would be better of by just ignoring or at least appeasing the crowd with something.

Edit: I read into some of his key moments as a person and comments he made on the topic. Yikes. Maybe he is trying to appeal to edgy kids so they nag their parents to buy better hardware. Maybe his brain got quadruple-A-fried over the years. But then again, maybe he is just another CEO asshole and has always been lol. It’s a shame, Borderlands 1 and 2 were great games back then. Just let a good game rest in peace, there is no need and no sense in milking every last drop out of every successful series. /rant

lath,

Musk/Trump type wannabe.

Zanshi,

Never heard of the guy before

Lucky you. Randy has a long history of being an insufferable asshole

bytesonbike,

Pretty much. Can’t remember what he did that ticked me off like 8 years ago.

I stopped buying and surprise surprise, got everything after Borderland 2 for literally free or like $2-3 at some point.

Exusia,
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There was his crashout before Borderlands 2 where Gearbox accepted a boatload of Sega money to help finish Colonial Marines, and instead outsourced the project. Gearbox kept the money in spite of the failure, and allegedly used it as funding for Borderlands 2. (They were sued by Sega for keeping the cash, but later dropped the suit)

He also crashed out during the Borderlands 3 leadup.

Groped the Claptrap VA 6 years ago because he was tired of voicing Claptrap “as a favor” and when offered normal market rates wanted more because Claptrap is iconic. Pitchford cornered him at the hotel elevator, grabbed the VAs junk and said “youre gonna do what I tell you to” -allegedly.

Other than that, about the same time, he left a thumb drive at a Medieval Times that had company secrets and squirt porn on it. Same thumb drive. Brother apparently can’t afford 2 thumb drives to keep his porn separate from his company secrets.

Pitchford is the problem with Gearbox, but as a whole he’s a far cry from being Rockstar or Nestle, so it doesn’t cross people’s Ick threshold to trigger boycotts.

slaneesh_is_right,

He’s the poster boy for being successful while being the dumbest guy in every room he enters.

fluxion,

Present times have shown us that a lot of CEOs are incompetent idiots with mental disorders

xxce2AAb, (edited )

No, in fact at this point, I struggle to imagine what value he could possibly provide his employer that could match or exceed the damage he’s doing. Certainly, everywhere I’ve worked in the games industry he’d have been out on his ass… some time ago. I clearly must be missing something. Who knows?

I mean, he’s the CEO, but there must be a board and a group of investors he’s answering to.

Rhynoplaz,

Yeah, I’m a longtime Borderlands fan who follows what’s going on with the franchise, and Randy just acts like a child who inherited a video game company. He usually says this dumb shit with a smile on his face, so I think he’s intending it to be in good fun, but it just does not come across that way.

passepartout,
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Could as well be the case. Would fit to the general theme of the series lol.

ShadowRam,

right?

Randy Pitchford has been this way for years.

I guess its news to some people Randy shooting off his mouth.

givesomefucks,

But then again, maybe he is just another CEO asshole and has always been lol.

When you fire everyone that disagrees with you, it doesn’t take long to loose the ability to handle criticism.

Like, there’s a very good chance this guy has had absolutely nothing but praise while “working” on this game. So now that people whose job doesn’t depend on making him feel like a genius are giving feedback, it literally breaks his brain.

He most likely genuinely believes the game is perfect and all the criticism is from “trolls and haters” who are just lying because their jealous of his genius.

There’s a reason this attitude is so pervasive among the wealthy.

passepartout,
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Now that I think about it, that has been one of my two blanket explanations for rich people being assholes.

The other one being the mix-up of correlation and causation (or even just the direction of causation). Money arguably does make you a worse person, but also being a bad person usually can make you a lot of money in the first place.

givesomefucks,

That feeds back into what I was saying, it’s the same thing.

The first couple times you dick someone over for money, you’re gonna feel bad.

But everyone at the company is going to pat you on the back and say you’re a genius cuz numbers went up.

Anyone who says it wasn’t worth the numbers going up, gets fired.

The wealthy live in a bubble where the only people they interact with only care about money

Our whole capitalist society is a giant feedback loop that concentrates wealth and strips the wealthy of their humanity.

It’s not like there’s some problem where something is broken, this is the natural and logical result of how we’ve spent the last couple generations

Unregulated capitalism always ends in an oligarchy with most people penniless

Dojan,
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Can someone find an excuse for how this behaviour is not just extremely short sighted / plain stupid?

It’s not. It works because he’s always operated like this and keeps getting away with it. People keep sucking up his garbage games so why should he change?

Ulrich,
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I think they would be better of by just ignoring

I mean the best thing they could do is to acknowledge that the game could use some optimization and promise to continue working on it. Even if they have no intention of doing so. But that might get them in trouble with Nvidia since they slapped an “Nvidia optimized” badge on it.

The worst thing they could do is say “buy a better PC”.

the_artic_one,

I think that sticker just means you sent Nvidia a pre-release build so they had time to add game-specific hacks to their drivers before your launch.

zalgotext,

Exactly, like what CDPR did with Cyberpunk - own up to the fact that it was shit on release, then take the time to fix it and update it. People flipped nearly overnight from having a negative opinion of the game to a positive one when they released the working version of the game (plus a really solid DLC, which probably helped too).

Ulrich,
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I still think it’s fucked up that CDPR and so many others have a “release it now, fix it later” mentality, but yes, at least they owned it.

Pika,
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I hadent heard of him until BL4 was released, but man does he seem like a real big piece of work lol

SweetCitrusBuzz, do gaming w "There will be a Stardew Valley 1.7 update": Creator ConcernedApe confirms another update to the immortal life sim hot off a new Haunted Chocolatier tease
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  • thingsiplay,

    Not adding a nonbinary does not make him a transphobe. Not every game, movie or story need a trans sexual character. It’s fair to ask for an addition in a “roleplaying” game (which it is here to be fair), but its not fair to call someone transphobe if he or she does not do it.

    etchinghillside,

    I had just finished reading a Steam thread on why a game didn’t have a female option.

    If I ever create a game I’m making the protagonist a slug or alien or something.

    Marshezezz,

    You should probably include a source of him being a transphobe if you are going to put that out there

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  • Marshezezz,

    Going straight to “you’re a transphobe” undermines the actual fight when real transphobia occurs and fucks it up for people who are seriously being harmed by actual transphobia. You aren’t helping anything with that. Considering the mechanics of the game, I could see where adding the option could take a lot of work. Maybe it does maybe it doesn’t, but that doesn’t equate to transphobia, you’re just being an asshole.

    TehPers,

    There are mods to do this.

    Would it be nice in the base game? Sure, but it’s not there, and speculating that he’s a transphobe because of that seems like a hell of a conclusion to make.

    Edit: I should add that the game via its special dialogue tokens, but not in the UI. This shows at least some level of support explicitly added by CA.

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  • Baizey,

    Why do you say everything in plural?

    Hexarei,

    Guessing possible DID

    BuboScandiacus,
    @BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

    without any pointless ad hominem attacks

    Well… Pointing that out after calling CA a transophobe for no good reason is certainly a choice…

    originalucifer, do gaming w "There will be a Stardew Valley 1.7 update": Creator ConcernedApe confirms another update to the immortal life sim hot off a new Haunted Chocolatier tease
    @originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

    at this point, just make the chocolatier the next update to stardew

    kinda smells like the same game

    Wisens, do gaming w "There will be a Stardew Valley 1.7 update": Creator ConcernedApe confirms another update to the immortal life sim hot off a new Haunted Chocolatier tease
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    The Haunted Chocolatier tease is that it’ll have farming.

    Mora,

    Would be funny if Haunted Chocolatier just became a stardew valley DLC.

    thingsiplay,

    Why not a separate update cross reference update between both games? I can imagine something Haunted Chocolatier related content (not the entire game) to be added into Stardew Valley that acts as a sort of “advertisement”, to get people familiar with the new IP. Or not. Just an idea.

    Wisens,
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    As much ad that would be cool, I want ConcernedApe to make it its own game. I don’t know how much net income he made from SDV, but he DESERVES another payday with HC.

    Also, he may have changed enough engine/code stuff in HC so SDV and HC aren’t compatible with each other to bundle together.

    mhague, do games w Battlefield 6's beta has only been running for a day, but it's already suffering from a FPS curse with cheaters breaking out the wallhacks

    No server browser btw

    hal_5700X, do games w Battlefield 6's beta has only been running for a day, but it's already suffering from a FPS curse with cheaters breaking out the wallhacks

    Will, you know what they say, “Nature will find a way.”.

    MyDarkestTimeline01, do games w Battlefield 6's beta has only been running for a day, but it's already suffering from a FPS curse with cheaters breaking out the wallhacks

    The problem with turning off cross play on Xbox is if they access through the game bar or game pass it treats it the same as the console.

    Fiivemacs,

    better to just turn the game off, refund it if you can and never buy their crap again.

    Killer,

    The beta is free

    Fiivemacs,

    still not worth it…

    AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor, do games w Battlefield 6's beta has only been running for a day, but it's already suffering from a FPS curse with cheaters breaking out the wallhacks

    But… but… the secureboot requirement and the anticheat were supposed to make the game free of cheaters!!i

    KiwiTB,

    It can help prevent various methods commonly used, but nothing can stop cheating. All you can do is minimise it.

    apprehensively_human,

    Counterpoint: you could not have TPM and secure boot requirements that needlessly alienates a large player base of Linux users.

    KiwiTB,

    That’s true. My machine doesn’t have a TPM. I understand they are trying to make things easier for their team, but I agree I’d rather have wider support.

    Ugurcan, (edited )

    Counter-counterpoint: Linux users are no users if a game is brimming with cheaters. Who the fuck plays a competitive multiplayer game full of cheaters only because it runs on Linux?

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    Every game has cheaters. If we could run our own servers, we could decide who we play with.

    Ugurcan,

    So you’re not asking for Linux support, but custom dedicated server support?

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    If we had private dedicated servers and the ability to play without anti-cheat, Linux support would be a non-issue. But because we don’t have that, anti-cheat is seen as a necessity, and we don’t have Linux support.

    wizzim,

    I don’t understand this point.

    Linux does support TPM and secure boot: wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot#What_is_UEFI_Secure_Bo…

    I thought the problem for Linux players was “just” the kernel anticheat ?

    Tar_alcaran,

    Let people run their own servers, allow blacklists and whitelists.

    Problem solved.

    ms_lane,

    But won’t you think of the profits!

    KiwiTB,

    That’s not going to solve cheating either, but I do prefer dedicated servers in general.

    echodot,

    It will result in cheaters getting instantly identified and banned so then it’ll be less fun for them, and they’re less likely to do it.

    KiwiTB,

    I wish it was that simple but it’s not.

    echodot,

    There’s lots they could do to minimise cheaters that they’re not doing. The main one being not sending the cheaters information in the first place.

    The wall hack cheat works because for some bizarre reason the server sends players information about the position of other players they can’t possibly see, players on the other side of the map for example, there’s no reason for the client to have that information. The cheaters cannot access information that isn’t given to them.

    KiwiTB,

    I agree that only sending absolute needed data is a great policy for stopping all sorts of cheating. I could see them skipping this step if they don’t have a way of doing it fast enough that won’t cause other issues like player pop in. That’s what it’s have to assume.

    nostalgicgamerz,

    Hopefully this beta is the feedback they need to plug these holes and block that kind of data for the full release

    KombatWombat,

    Yeah it’s not supported for my system so I can’t even launch it. But I was watching some friends stream it and it crashed for three out of four of them within two games. I don’t think any of us will be getting it after release.

    mugita_sokiovt, do gaming w Leaked Battlefield 6 release date semi-confirmed in standard and Phantom Edition post, and it looks like the threat of $80 games persists
    @mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online avatar

    Good luck getting my producer or myself to buy an $80 USD game.

    We’d rather play older ones that actually have an active community. Suckers.

    UltraGiGaGigantic, do gaming w Leaked Battlefield 6 release date semi-confirmed in standard and Phantom Edition post, and it looks like the threat of $80 games persists
    @UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml avatar

    See you in 3 years when youre $20

    reagansrottencorpse, do gaming w Leaked Battlefield 6 release date semi-confirmed in standard and Phantom Edition post, and it looks like the threat of $80 games persists

    I’ll probably skip it until it’s on massive sale, and keep playing Arma.

    Moonguide,

    Same. ArmA, Squad, and eventually 83 will be more than enough until bf6 is dirt cheap.

    reagansrottencorpse,

    Have you tried the star wars full mod for squad called galactic contention? It’s pretty fun.

    Moonguide,

    Oh yeah, probably my favourite squad mod. A little hard to believe that people will do that kind of quality work for free and consistently update it when any patch can and will invariably fuck mods up.

    hoshikarakitaridia, do gaming w Leaked Battlefield 6 release date semi-confirmed in standard and Phantom Edition post, and it looks like the threat of $80 games persists
    @hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

    Lol the premium edition will $110.

    They’re really trying to keep the server load low on launch are they. There’s gonna be a nice 6 players on a 64v64 map in a game mode that’s riddled with bugs.

    For some reason I have a bigger urge to jump in the Atlantic than to buy this game.

    Linktank, do gaming w Leaked Battlefield 6 release date semi-confirmed in standard and Phantom Edition post, and it looks like the threat of $80 games persists

    The threat of me not being willing to pay that for a game will continue to persist as well. Let’s see who breaks first.

    0li0li, do gaming w Leaked Battlefield 6 release date semi-confirmed in standard and Phantom Edition post, and it looks like the threat of $80 games persists

    Online-only too again? Price is not my main issue with this one if that’s still the case.

    hoshikarakitaridia,
    @hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

    Everything makes me think this one is silly

    • the price
    • the leaks
    • the development cycle
    • the way they talk about it
    • the publisher
    • the previous games

    And I’m saying this as a former battlefield fan, they’ve thoroughly run the series into the ground. It’s genuinely impressive, it’s not even lucrative anymore I don’t think.

    ganymede,

    another former fan here, could you pls expand a bit on what you’re feeling with these points and what it means? i don’t know enough about each of them to realise what you meant?

    hoshikarakitaridia,
    @hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

    These are the reasons that make me not want to consider buying the new battlefield.

    ganymede,

    thanks i got that far ;)

    but what is it about eg.

    • the way they talk about it?
    • the price?
    • the leaks?

    etc that makes you think its bad news?

    the previous games i’m 100% with you, 2042 was beyond embarrassing. the publisher, nothing need be said lol. the dev cycle i’m going to assume is suspciously fast?

    hoshikarakitaridia,
    @hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

    Well the price is $80+. GAMES with higher prices tend to do poorly a lot of the time. Additionally, this is a multiplayer game, so less people buying for the high price also means lobbies might be more on the empty side, which takes away the fun. And then there is also an argument that high prices cover a lower expectation of sales. Although this one might be my naivity about causality.

    They talk about the game in abstract terms, and in a way where the hype seems to be more important than the content of the game. Which to me is always a bad sign. If the game is good, why not talk about specifically what the must fun parts were for you?

    And even the leak itself suggests at least one person knows the price is a bad look for the content. So that person who has insight, knows it sounds bad. I will boldly infer, that that’s because it’s not worth $80. Which makes it also very probable that it’s far less than even a “moderate” $60, I can’t believe I’m saying this because that’s still an unbelievably high sum of money for a game.

    And with all these points remember, battlefield does not have the best track record, so only some of these details indicating a fishy smell will sound the alarm and make me reconsider buying. I don’t have enough trust to extend towards games published under EA, for obviously reason.

    ganymede,

    sound logic right here.

    that said the gameplay demos today weren’t terrible

    hoshikarakitaridia,
    @hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah they did look kinda cool, but I’m staying cautious for now, especially as long as it’s $60+.

    ganymede,

    agreed, not a single chance i’m pre-ordering

    Flamekebab, do gaming w Leaked Battlefield 6 release date semi-confirmed in standard and Phantom Edition post, and it looks like the threat of $80 games persists
    @Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

    Given the history of Battlefield, so what? Anyone buying at launch only has themselves to blame.

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