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enkonju, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

I actually enjoyed the first two Crew games and probably would have checked out Motorfest by now if they didn’t remove the first game from my library. But now, why should I ever buy another Ubisoft game when I don’t know how long they’ll bless me with the ability to play the games I’ve paid for? They even included expiration dates for their game keys and they’re acting like those dates were completely meaningless. So, even if they try to add an end of life date for future purchases, how would I know they’re not lying like they did with these original keys?

Narauko,

This is why I have stopped buying anything Blizzard. They removed the Warcraft 3 I payed for and replaced it with a completely unplayable something I didn’t want. Ubisoft has been on my shit list for a while for unrelated reasons too, but now they are on my never again list. And I never even played The Crew. Bad business is bad business even if it doesn’t directly impact me.

Duamerthrax, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Ubisoft can’t complain that I wont buy their games if I don’t really own their games.

uis,

Boycott doesn’t work, grab pitchforks and torches(EU citizens only).

Duamerthrax,

Ubisoft’s stocks aren’t looking great at the moment.

uis,

Ubisoft’s stocks aren’t ubisoft’s assets. It is opinion on how much they worth, not how much they have.

robdor, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Ubisoft can’t be mad at me for not burying any of their games because they don’t make any games.

cyberpunk007, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

I’ve been avoiding Ubisoft games for quite some time. And blizzard. And a handful of other studios because of these bullshit shenanigans.

Lost_My_Mind,

I wish people would take your stance on GTA 6.

Instead, I’m sure it’ll be like “100 billion copys sold in first hour!”

uis,

This is why boycott doesn’t work. They copy each other. So, grab pitchforks and torches(EU citizens only).

KingThrillgore, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Gaslighting. That’s a new strategy and a new low.

dissentiate,

Gas lightning is one of the many disgusting tactics corporate lawyers build their careers on.

Zess,

Go and learn what gaslighting is so you don’t look so stupid next time you say it.

njm1314, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Ubisoft you can’t complain if I pirate your games, because I never actually bought them and you weren’t deceived by a lack of purchase.

cyberpunk007,

This is the correct response.

SpicyColdFartChamber, (edited )

Hijacking.

Are you European Union Citizen? Do you like games?

Do you want to own games again? and not just “License” them? Then please join the Stop destroying Videogames Initiative.

Initiative - citizens-initiative.europa.eu/…/000007_en

(Only sign if you are a EU citizen!)

It’s an initiative to get the European parliament to discuss the matter all together, and Iirc, it already has some members that support it. (So It’s not just any ordinary petition that will go nowhere.)

We have already collected 42% of the 1 million signatures from European citizens required. But the deadline is June 2025 and if we don’t get enough signatures by then, it won’t be looked at by the European commission. So to at least get the matter to be discussed, please sign!

(ONLY FOR European Union citizens! No one else! Please do not sign if you aren’t an EU citizen. Also No Brits! there’s another initiative for the UK.)

Short video explainer about the initiative - youtu.be/mkMe9MxxZiI

For more info visit www.stopkillinggames.com

You can also view the petitions for other countries - (Australia, Canada, UK, Brazil… and more)

Lost_My_Mind,

ONLY FOR European Union citizens! No Brits!

signs anyways…is American

SpicyColdFartChamber, (edited )

No, please don’t sign if you are American. That can harm the petition with false signatures.

This is strictly ONLY for European union citizens!

Don’t worry, you can still help by spreading the message among your EU friends or family members(You don’t have to be a gamer to care about this or vote in this!). A lot of the exposure to this initiative is lacking when it comes to non-english speaking EU citizens. You can help there.

huppakee,
@huppakee@lemm.ee avatar

reads a request… doesn’t care… is American 🇺🇸

inclementimmigrant, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Oooooooooh, fuck you Ubisoft.

dumbass, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

Hey Ubisoft, you can’t complain when I pirate your stupid games, because there’s nothing to own apparently.

Aatube, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version
toiletobserver, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Take them to small claims for theft. I’ll bet they don’t show up. Then they won’t pay you, so you get a court order and sheriff to recoup your money in assets. Take anything you want and put it on eBay. Collect your money.

Embargo, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

I have the fucking disc to prove I do own it, you arseholes.

Stovetop,

Sadly, the legal interpretation of copyright says you own the plastic, but not the data it contains. It sucks but it’s not just Ubisoft.

Embargo,

Well… I can’t say I’ll feel for them when they inevitably complain about myself and many others cracking their games.

catloaf, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Literally just let people host private servers. It worked fine for decades, and still does.

imrighthere,

The HalfLife model worked exceedingly well, until gaben fucked it all up.

huppakee,
@huppakee@lemm.ee avatar

But then they don’t get money, and they really like getting money.

uis,

Wait until some blizzard empoyee comes out and tells how it is expensive for publisher to not pay for hosting.

base, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

The best part is they havent made a compelling game in 10 years. So i wont buy a game of them ever again either way. Its an easy life tbh.

ElectroVagrant, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Ubisoft cannot complain when gamers “pirate” their games then.

If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t theft and all that.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Goddammit… get the quote right:

If buying ain’t owning, piracy ain’t stealing.

Beacon,

Whose exact quote do you think you're quoting? Every time i hear this phrase it's always said the way OP said it, never the way you said it. Also please try to talk to people in a less pissy way

RightHandOfIkaros,

Piracy was never stealing, in so far as legality is concerned in the USA, at least.

Stealing requires the owner of the stolen thing to be deprived access of that thing. If someone steals your car, you cannot access it anymore, since it was removed from you by the thief.

Piracy copies your car, meaning you still can access your car but someone else can drive a copy of your car. The first example is a major inconvenience to you, the second example has absolutely no negative effect on you.

It is why instances of piracy that make it to a court of law are tried as Copyright Infringement cases, and not theft or piracy cases. When your ISP spies on you and sends you a letter after you pirate something in an insecure manner, you get sent a Notice of Copyright Infringement, not a Notice of Theft.

AtariDump,
Viking_Hippie,

In fact, I downloaded a Rimac Nevera just yesterday.

For Cyberpunk 2077, but still. Would, could, did.

state_electrician,

Exactly. It also means you’re being sued by the copyright holder and not the state. You won’t go to prison for this shit, as opposed to actual theft.

Owlboi,

Not only is that not a quote, but its not even right. Piracy was never stealing, its copyright infringement.

Fingolfinz,

Thanks for the clarification, it really drastically changes the meaning when said like this versus op…

Reality_Suit, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

They could always release the source code.

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