Save your money, buy a Steam Deck or a desktop PC, play games online with the internet service that you already pay a shit ton of money for, and don't look back. It's really stupid that we allowed game consoles to charge us to play online.
Steam deck is a great way to get into PC gaming if you don’t have a lot of money or a PC. It can run a lot of games. Enough that you won’t get bored any time soon.
I would say a pc would be cheaper if ur on a budget as u can easily get a bunch of used hardware and rig it together till you can afford something better for an upgrade
Eh maybe if you’re hands on and want to take the time to find the deals on the parts. You could just dock a steam deck and plug in a key board mouse and monitor.
I’m not a console owner, are PlayStation owners really giving Sony $60 a year to play online multiplayer? It shouldn’t cost anything in the first place. If Valve or GoG or anyone else started trying to tell me I had to pay them extra to send certain packets through my router, I’d have a good laugh.
It used to be charging you to send packets through servers that they (in this case, Sony) own, but now that may or may not be the predominant use case in this era of games as a service where the developer needs to run the game through their own servers anyway. The reason Valve, Epic, and CD Projekt don't charge you for it is because you're paying for it every time you buy a game through their stores, which also used to be a less prominent situation on consoles, but now well more than half of games are bought digitally on consoles as well. So PC has taken more and more market share while consoles continue upping the price of their mandatory subscription fees for online play, and one day they'll sit there scratching their heads, wondering where all of their customers went.
I never did. I only got a PS4 for single player exclusives back in the day. Refused to pay for online access and had no interest in paying a monthly fee for rentals when I already had a backlog. And had my PC for everything else.
While this is true, it does at least provide access to a large library of games 🤷♂️ im certainly not thrilled about the increase but when your primary game platform is ps5, what can you do
Large library of games is factually incorrect, you just do not know the scale of games in existence. Far more titles in Steam, gog, itch io, and with emulation this all goes to the square power, the largest library of games is a PC.
I’m not a console owner, are PlayStation owners really giving Sony $60 a year to play online multiplayer?
It all started with the Xbox, since people did not questioned it and received it with open arms the others (Sony and Nintendo) just copied it. It's just matter of time we end up paying on PC too
PC gaming is actually a competitive market that would still give players options to escape that (Gog, steam, Epic, itch and humble dumble, hell even Microsoft store and company launchers), it is not guaranteed to never happen because cartels happen, but it is far more hard and improbable than consoles, which are locked-down computers with unbreakable monopolies installed in then, at the mercy of the feudal lord of choice. PS: not to mention, Piracy, emulators and Libre games on linux.
Microsoft actually tried that during the 360 era with their “Games for Windows Live” service. You had to pay Live “Gold” in order to play online for those games, the exact same subscription required for online gaming on Xbox.
The whole service was so poorly done, so intrusive, and so un-PC, that it didn’t stick with PC gamers.
Nowadays, with quite a few PC gamers already paying for the Game Pass subscription and a rather streamlined experience for PC, I wonder if things would turn out differently somehow.
It was a discussion. And XBox Live was a significantly better experience than PSN. A lot of people were happy to have the premium online experience on PS4 vs the barebones PS3 experience.
To be clear, I had PS Plus on the PS3 when it was just unlocked (free-ish) games and extra discounts. And most of my favorite playstation multiplayer was on the PS3. So I was mostly indifferent to the change.
The news follows confirmation from Take-Two it plans to let go of 600 full-time workers to save $165 million annually, which was shared a few weeks ago. That is despite making billions upon billions of dollars as a result of the GTA series.
Why make billions of dollars when you could make billions and one? /s
And it’s capable of productivity with free tools like blender, visual studio code, and da vinci resolve. So that extra hardware can be used beyond just gaming.
I view my pc as a hobbyist’s tool, instead of solely a gaming device. It has helped me learn many things outside of gaming, all the information it can get me and all the things i can do on it are frankly overwhelming.
Totally worth what I paid for this pc, 100%.
Let’s not forget to mention the Steam Deck’s low price for pretty great PC gaming. Even more so for the refurbished entry models which are nearly the same price as the last GPU I recommended to someone (secondhand 6700 XT). I’ve been surprised how good of an experience I’ve had with Baldur’s Gate 3 on the Deck.
I’ve got premium till May next year, always buy on Black Friday sales, cancelled my renewal, I can’t justify that price. Hopefully everyone cancels their renewal, they get the message and undo the damage.
Yeah I’m not going to pay any more than what I already pay for PS+ just to help people on Elden Ring. I don’t play any of the shit they give you on PS+ anyway so I’m out.
I know it’s become a meme, but because capitalism. I’m surprised gamers more gamers aren’t against it because it only ever makes our favorite hobby so much worse.
I find 10$ a very decent value, far from greedy to be honest. This is not the same as TLOU part 1 where you had to pay full price even if you already had a previous version.
At least it seems decent. I’m a fan of Rune Factory franchise but can’t fathom the latest Rune Factory 3 Special, which is an AI upscaled of the original on NDS
At least it seems decent. I’m a fan of Rune Factory franchise but can’t fathom the latest Rune Factory 3 Special, which is an AI upscaled of the original on NDS
The tech difference between the PS4 and PS5 is massive.
It genuinely can be a complete overhaul, more than just graphically. Also worth noting is that the $10 cost is just the difference in pricing from last gen, and doing split gen like that has let them keep the PS4 versions the same pricing without making them rebuy games when they get a new console. They just make up the difference.
I don't and won't buy a lot of full priced games because I can wait, but their approach really isn't that bad.
I have trouble reconciling that with the PC market, where the same version of a game I bought 4 years ago would be able to run at better resolutions and frame rates the next time I get a new machine. From where I sit, it does just appear to be worse value in the console space.
Are they still going to auto renew this shit even though they massively increased the price? That should be illegal. I would have never seen the increase until after it was billed if not for this post.
Do you guys remember when prices used to go up like 3-5%? I guess corporations started taking notes from the fricken DMV.
Considering their subscription competitor costs $204 a year while they were at $120/yr, I think it’s pretty clear why they boosted the upper tiers so much. Even with this price increase, it’s still $44 cheaper than Ultimate and imo a better overall value in terms of game quality.
What’s really trash is that they’re increasing the price of the base PS+ membership, and by so much. It now costs $150 a year to play just Madden, CoD, or EA Soccer, on top of a minimum $400 console purchase. That’s absurd. I would say this is a W for Xbox, but they already tried to increase the price of Gold and they’ll definitely try again now that they know there’s no escaping it.
The base tier is entirely bullshit. You shouldn’t need to pay them money to access the internet that you already pay another company for. The base tier shouldn’t exist.
Oh yeach paying for playing online games is such a bulshit. I never really complained about it online beacuse i was buying ps plus on ps3 when it only gave you games ( beacuse i do buy it only for games and i would never pay it to play online games) so it never really affected me but this is such a bs. Im suprised there wasnt a bigger outcry against it.
Normally I’d say it’s a greedy cash grab, but it’s $10 upgrade path for existing owner, instead of reselling it for $50 - $70? Also there’s a new rouge-like / souls-like mode? Maybe branding this release as ‘remaster’ is not doing them any favor, it’d probably better for them to market it as free PS5 upgrade and a survival mode expansion for $10.
Ian Stokes (@IanVanCheese) from Twitter posted that “If I was Sony, I would maybe let my S-tier studio that excels at making new IPs and interesting games actually make new games, instead of forcing them to photocopy their previous A+ report card for eternity”
to which Jordan Middler from VGC (@JordanMiddler) replied “From what I was told from one person, this was more of a project for new hires to get them in the game. Druckmann’s team is full steam ahead on original. One doesn’t takeaway from the other afaik”
I really hope that Naughty Dog would move on to do something more cheerful than TLOU, the mood is just too oppressive and taxing, especially in TLOU2 where the game is very long.
I personally think TLOU2 is one of the most effective works of art in the entire medium and I love the game top to bottom, but I’m also overjoyed to hear they’re working on something else now.
I too hope it’s more cheerful, for the exact same reasons.
If you guys ever wonder why a seemingly modern computer goes for half of what a normal PC costs, this is why. They'll milk you dry with subscriptions like this
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