The new-gen console is actually trending 7 per cent ahead of the PS4 in the United States launch aligned.
And how much do you think the drop in Xbox is? It’s way more than 7 percent. The problem for Sony isn’t that its console is dying; it’s that they’re approaching market saturation. They’ve got their market cornered in a way that they never have, and they’ve only got a 7 percent lead off of the last generation. Peak dollars spent on consoles was back in 2009, when all three consoles were in very healthy competition. Many PS4 users are happy to stay on PS4, because the games they play are over 10 years old, like Grand Theft Auto V and Minecraft, so there’s no need to upgrade.
Meanwhile, a console that launched with some idea of every game running at 60 FPS is now compromising on that (it was inevitable, but people believed otherwise). Games that used to be console exclusive are now coming out on PC, where you don’t need to pay a subscription fee to play online and your library always comes with the assumption that every game you have will be forward compatible. Even if you buy the new PlayStation, there’s no promise that your old games will run at better resolutions and frame rates. The controller you bought 10 years ago still works on PC, but Sony says you need to buy the new one, even if the game you’re playing uses none of its new features. The VR system you bought before doesn’t play the new VR games. For all sorts of economic realities, not the least of which are certification processes and licensing fees, there’s a good chance that game you really want to play is on PC long before it’s on console, in early access or otherwise. There are no competing storefronts for digital releases, so you can only pay what Sony says you have to pay. Consoles also aren’t even significantly cheaper than an equivalent PC anymore, and they run basically the same hardware under the hood, so the reasons for a console as we know them today to exist are fewer and fewer as time goes on.
Well, that's another reason to consider completely switching over to gaming on PC. The free games are nice, but the quality always varies month to month and I really have to wonder if it's worth it to stay subscribed.
This would be a game that can survive really well if it was ported to PC and supports user server.(to host their collection of dream projects.) Instead, it probably not gonna last for very long following similar treatment to PS3’s little big planet when player count taper out.
It’s really good prototyping tool as well for people wants to dip in to game dev. It’s more complex compare to say Mario Maker, but less overwhelming compare to using unity/unreal engine. And you already have all sorts of project asset template you can copy from.
I’d imaging some future gamedev actually started by making dream projects.
I think Dreams would also have done much better with a major underlying game instead of advertising itself as effectively a game engine you can’t profit from. LBP, Mario Maker, Halo, Far Cry, and others have an appeal to them because they’re complete titles that people enjoy, but have level editors (or are the level editor in the case of Mario) that allow players to easily express their creativity given the rules and assets of these games. I haven’t ever launched Dreams, but I’m over the moon waiting for Restitched. Brings me back to the days of waiting for my LBP pre-order to release.
This is a scheme to control the used console market so they can set their own prices. Hopefully people actually selling their own consoles and undercut them
i mean they’ve been doing refurbished consoles for multiple generations now, no? The only new thing is that they’re selling them directly from Sony’s site, rather than going through GameStop like they used to back in the day.
How would this control people selling their used hardware? I don’t see anything about Sony trying to disable resold consoles.
you’ll get “a product that works like new with genuine PlayStation replacement parts (as needed) that has been thoroughly cleaned, inspected and tested”. You will receive all the cables and paperwork you need for a PS5, and it comes with a 12-month manufacturer’s warranty
I have gone on top 100 lists and have played every top PS4 game or PS4 game above a 7 rating. But they’re done making new games for ps4. I don’t know why I got downvoted for that 🤷♂️
Yea you shouldn’t have been downvoted. I’m just waiting for the jailbreak to come out to start tinkering with it. I bought it to bust it open and run Linux and such. Not really to game.
Consoles will be around until the tech is sufficiently advanced as to negate their usefulness. There will come a day when a phone does everything a modern high end PC can. Bluetooth to a TV and play whatever you want.
Graphic fidelity is almost to a point where there isn’t much more needed in the way of processing power. Another decade. Maybe 2. Consoles will still exist for decades yet. But they’re going to become increasingly unnecessary.
Dedicated hardware still has benefits, having your phone notifications separate from gaming, if your phone breaks having your console break would suck, and imo a touchscreen will never surpass physical buttons on controllers so you’d still want those.
I personally hope the future looks more like a steam deck than a gaming phone.
In terms of touch screen control. The phone will just be the processing unit. It will wirelessly Stream the video to your tv while accepting controllers and other ik devices via bluetooth. Maybe with a switch like cradle. And I can’t play a lot of games with a controller… but my kids play fine with one… also on the touch screen. It’s what you are used to I guess.
I think it’s a bit shortsighted to assume gaming will have no use for significantly more powerful hardware in the future. even if not for graphics or VR, it could be greater use of AI, or something else we could never foresee.
I disagree. Your phone can happily do that today as long as you’re willing to play old games. This will always be the case, even when phones are able to play things today are now considered AAA, Desktop computers will be leaps ahead in what they can do.
considering that Sony doesn’t offer PS+ Day 1 Launches, unlike Xbox
They don’t offer them as often as on Game Pass, but there are some day 1 launches on Extra.
As with most subscription models, the value proposition will probably decrease as we move forward (one only has to glance at streaming services to see what awaits us in the gaming space imo…). Bummer, but expected.
I share your sentiment. I previously owned an Xbox 360 but had been in the Sony camp for the past decade. For a few months I had a gamepass subscription without an Xbox console and I’m currently a PS+ premium member. The fact that you get day 1 access to first-party titles from Microsoft AND they have a gamepass streaming app on Android and PC is huge. I may have to reconsider the value proposition of my Sony services.
I’m so looking forward to this. The game surpassed Bloodborne for me which says a lot about me considering Bloodborne was my first soulslike and the one I’ve spent the most researching, watching videos about, playing. Very excited
It does say a lot… Sony waited long enough for someone to come and eat their cake. That said, the world building and layers of lore are a universe ahead in bloodborne compared to P. P is a facsimile of a good soulsborne that only succeeded because Sony waited long enough for us to be so desperate as to accept anything. In a world a sequel to BB existed, P would likely fly completely under the radar.
New franchise needs to build a following first. The lower price point will get more people to try it. I’m sold already, but there’s a ton of people who have no idea what this game is still and won’t until it releases. I hope it’s as good as it looks, and I hope it succeeds and leads to more.
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