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DoucheBagMcSwag, do gaming w Sony raising PS Plus pricing by 33%

Does Sony really think they can charge more than fucking Game Pass???

Fapper_McFapper, do gaming w Sony raising PS Plus pricing by 33%

Well goodbye PS plus it was nice while it lasted. Jesus Christ why does every fucking service have to enshitify? Why goddamnit?!

Richie030,

I’ve got premium till May next year, always buy on Black Friday sales, cancelled my renewal, I can’t justify that price. Hopefully everyone cancels their renewal, they get the message and undo the damage.

Omegamanthethird,

I’m probably switching from Premium to Essential. I might drop it completely. I really don’t game online much.

whatthecaptcha,
@whatthecaptcha@lemmy.one avatar

Yeah I’m not going to pay any more than what I already pay for PS+ just to help people on Elden Ring. I don’t play any of the shit they give you on PS+ anyway so I’m out.

VentraSqwal,

I know it’s become a meme, but because capitalism. I’m surprised gamers more gamers aren’t against it because it only ever makes our favorite hobby so much worse.

NightOwl,

I stopped being amazed when console gamers argued on behalf of a billion dollar corporation for why online multiplayer had to be paid.

popcap200, do gaming w The Last of Us 2 PS5 Remaster Announced, Has a Brand New Survival Mode, $10 Upgrade Path

These remasters after only a few years are wild.

DebatableRaccoon,

I think the term you’re looking for is “greedy”

knokelmaat,

I find 10$ a very decent value, far from greedy to be honest. This is not the same as TLOU part 1 where you had to pay full price even if you already had a previous version.

DebatableRaccoon,

It’s 10 extra dollars for a game you already own which is why it’s greedy.

knokelmaat,

You are still able to play the PS4 version on your PS5, so no you’re not paying 10 dollars for a game you already own.

You’re paying 10 dollars for Dualsense rumble support, extra roguelike mode and lots of other PS5 specific updates like support for fast loading.

Never_Sm1le,
@Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id avatar

At least it seems decent. I’m a fan of Rune Factory franchise but can’t fathom the latest Rune Factory 3 Special, which is an AI upscaled of the original on NDS

Never_Sm1le,
@Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id avatar

At least it seems decent. I’m a fan of Rune Factory franchise but can’t fathom the latest Rune Factory 3 Special, which is an AI upscaled of the original on NDS

Thalestr,
!deleted6828 avatar

Gotta double-dip for more profit.

conciselyverbose, (edited )

The tech difference between the PS4 and PS5 is massive.

It genuinely can be a complete overhaul, more than just graphically. Also worth noting is that the $10 cost is just the difference in pricing from last gen, and doing split gen like that has let them keep the PS4 versions the same pricing without making them rebuy games when they get a new console. They just make up the difference.

I don't and won't buy a lot of full priced games because I can wait, but their approach really isn't that bad.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

I have trouble reconciling that with the PC market, where the same version of a game I bought 4 years ago would be able to run at better resolutions and frame rates the next time I get a new machine. From where I sit, it does just appear to be worse value in the console space.

conciselyverbose,

PC would just not offer the discounted last gen version.

And also can't do either the seamless loading (or the controller features unless it's hard wired) that are the defining features.

MossyFeathers, do gaming w OlliOlli, Kerbal Space Program Teams Shut Down by GTA Publisher
@MossyFeathers@pawb.social avatar

Just Take-Two being Take-Two.

Take-Two? More like, Take-Two-Massive-Shits-On-Your-Favorite-Games.

Anticorp, do gaming w Sony raising PS Plus pricing by 33%

Are they still going to auto renew this shit even though they massively increased the price? That should be illegal. I would have never seen the increase until after it was billed if not for this post.

Do you guys remember when prices used to go up like 3-5%? I guess corporations started taking notes from the fricken DMV.

gk99,

Considering their subscription competitor costs $204 a year while they were at $120/yr, I think it’s pretty clear why they boosted the upper tiers so much. Even with this price increase, it’s still $44 cheaper than Ultimate and imo a better overall value in terms of game quality.

What’s really trash is that they’re increasing the price of the base PS+ membership, and by so much. It now costs $150 a year to play just Madden, CoD, or EA Soccer, on top of a minimum $400 console purchase. That’s absurd. I would say this is a W for Xbox, but they already tried to increase the price of Gold and they’ll definitely try again now that they know there’s no escaping it.

…Other than buying a PC.

Skiptrace,

Gold is going away and getting a value increase. It’s becoming “Gamepass Core” it retains Online function, and gets 25 Gamepass Games.

Microsoft only increased the price by like, 2 dollars. Not this nonsense.

Anticorp,

The base tier is entirely bullshit. You shouldn’t need to pay them money to access the internet that you already pay another company for. The base tier shouldn’t exist.

szczuroarturo,

Oh yeach paying for playing online games is such a bulshit. I never really complained about it online beacuse i was buying ps plus on ps3 when it only gave you games ( beacuse i do buy it only for games and i would never pay it to play online games) so it never really affected me but this is such a bs. Im suprised there wasnt a bigger outcry against it.

XTornado,

I mean… Usually in this cases once they charge you you can still ask for a refund as long as it hasn’t passed a lot of days but yeah I agree is shit.

mino, do gaming w Sony raising PS Plus pricing by 33%

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  • red,

    The subscription also includes free games, though

    Aradina,
    @Aradina@lemmy.ml avatar

    Only if you continue paying. You lose access when you stop. So, they’re not free, you pay monthly for them.

    Whirling_Ashandarei, (edited )

    Those are the catalogue games, but you also get the monthly free games that once claimed are yours. They are considered “purchased” I believe.

    Edit: I’m wrong, did some googling.

    ScoobyDoo27,

    Those games are not purchased. You lose them when you unsubscribe to ps plus.

    Whirling_Ashandarei,

    Yep, just looked it up to make sure and I’m wrong. Wow, that sucks. I was already halfway out the door on my way to PC, this just confirms that.

    Gordon_Freeman,
    @Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

    To have access to those "free games" you have to pay first, so how come they are free when they are asking money for them?

    Free is this:

    https://www.gog.com/en/game/hero_of_the_kingdom_ii

    No payments required and you keep it forever

    NightOwl,

    “rentals” since they cease to work once the subscription lapses. Just like how Netflix isn’t giving away free movies and TV shows.

    JDPoZ, do games w Failing Manufacturers Are Pushing the Narrative That Consoles Are Dying, Says Ex-Xbox Exec
    @JDPoZ@lemmy.world avatar

    As long as there are killer 1st party titles exclusive to a console platform, there’s a reason to buy one.

    Personally, I love Zelda, Mario, and most recently I’ve been excited about the new Astro Bot game about to come out.

    Outside of Steam Deck emulation, you need a console to play those, and I do enjoy the convenience.

    The last Xbox worth buying was the 360, because all Xbox titles are released on other platforms now - eliminating the need for an Xbox console.

    SweatyFireBalls,

    I would agree with your last statement, but in the case of Xbox i think it is by design. They already excitedly talk about windows handhelds being the future and its because the console market has almost always been a loss, even back to the Sega selling massively under production cost to try and take ground from Nintendo. Games were always what made the profit.

    In the case of Xbox, their business model for a long time has been moving to a live service streaming model, i don’t think they want to be in the console market. If they can move their app on all kinds of devices, they can skip the investment of the console and instead focus on what the real profit driver was all along.

    MentalEdge,
    @MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

    As long as there are killer 1st party titles exclusive to a console platform, there’s a reason to buy one.

    Counterargument: some of us consider this kind of arbitrary BS a reason NOT to buy one.

    And that’s before you even consider the additional crap consoles pull, like Nintendo making the only way to back up your saves a fucking subscription service.

    bigmclargehuge,
    @bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world avatar

    Especially now that there are maybe 2 or 3 “killer apps” per the life cycle of a console at this point. Why would I pay $600 to buy a console, just for 3 exclusives?

    If there was an entire panel of awesome exclusives like back in the PS3/360 era, it would make more sense. But as it stands, the amount of good games on PC just dwarfs what’s on any console.

    9tr6gyp3, do gaming w Why Is No One Talking About 1950s Courier Game 'Deliver At All Costs' on PS5?

    cuz I don’t have a ps5?

    Linktank,

    Yeah, PS5? If you’re going to spend so much money, buy a PC.

    Blizzard,
    9tr6gyp3,
    viking, do gaming w OlliOlli, Kerbal Space Program Teams Shut Down by GTA Publisher

    I guess KSP 2 won’t ever be better than KSP 1. That sucks.

    cerebralhawks, do games w Fans Left Speechless as Capcom Locks Street Fighter 6 Finals Behind Paywall

    And people will still pay it, just like people bought Switch 2s in record numbers and just like the ROG Ally X (Xbox handheld) will sell well.

    I’m sure those who say they won’t are telling the truth, but most of them were never planning on buying it. Those who were will roll over like they always do.

    It’s sad, but I’m somewhat rooting for $80-100 games and other BS like this, because I know at some point the frog will jump out of the water, we’ll have another video game crash, and after a few years things will return to sanity. But unlike last time, we all have huge backlogs — it won’t hurt gamers nearly as much as it will big publishers. I think it may even be good for indies.

    What I’m really rooting for though: more indie games, more weird games, more dumb games that appeal to a niche and are loved by them for years to come that most people don’t get. A shift away from platform exclusivity. A shift away from Windows to both Mac and Linux. Something like Proton (LInux tool for emulating Windows games) on Mac. I’m fine with gaming being fine on Windows and Xbox, but it should still be fine if you don’t want to throw any money at Microsoft.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    This is something that used to be free and now costs about $40. Outside of Japan, a lot of people won’t pay it and will just not watch the finals.

    mohab,

    New Lemmy pasta?

    MeekerThanBeaker, do games w Fans Left Speechless as Capcom Locks Street Fighter 6 Finals Behind Paywall

    They should’ve stuck with making endless Street Fighter II variants. I prefer those anyway.

    mojofrododojo,
    @mojofrododojo@lemmy.world avatar

    yup. gimme marvel vs capcom 2 quality any day over sf3 etc.

    darkstalkers is legit too.

    mohab,

    Love Darkstalkers! Capcom better be working on bringing it back!

    mojofrododojo,
    @mojofrododojo@lemmy.world avatar

    so many great and strange characters / movesets!

    ramble81,

    One of my biggest disappointments was when MvC:3 came out. I was hoping for something to top 2 and then they dumbed it down so monumentally.

    mojofrododojo,
    @mojofrododojo@lemmy.world avatar

    right? amen bruddah. wish they’d go back to 2d sprites and go all in.

    but bring back a remix of mvc2 menu music because I wanna take you for a ride (cue horns)

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    How would that have changed this situation?

    GuerillaGorillas, do games w Sony Increases PS5 Controller Prices in US, Europe, and More

    Really wish Sony would just allow DS4s to be used for PS5 games.

    PopOfAfrica,

    My favorite part about hacking systems is when someone makes other controllers compatible.

    In using my Xbox controller on my hacked Wii U.

    DoucheBagMcSwag,

    Bloopair FTW

    SynopsisTantilize,

    I just bought a PS4 to hack …it’s on 11.52. Pawn shop I ordered it from said they upgraded it just to make sure I could play games on it. How thoughtful of them :(

    jadedwench,

    That blows. I never had a ps4, so I don’t know the whole deal about modding/rooting it. It is crazy that some of these devices have “fuses” that can brick your device if tampered with. It is my device dammit.

    SynopsisTantilize,

    I think up to 11.0 can be jail broken.

    Yea if the company no longer is updating the product I should be allowed to have root access. Open source when your done making money on it.

    No to be fair, I understand why NOT. Based on software sales. But still. It’s why I always stick with PC gaming and consoles are the guilty pleasure. I don’t pay for online or anything.

    DoucheBagMcSwag,

    “fuck you give me money”

    whereyaaat, do games w Fans Left Speechless as Capcom Locks Street Fighter 6 Finals Behind Paywall

    Doesn’t surprise me at all.

    E-sports people are easy to take advantage of.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    Wait until you hear about regular sports people.

    donuts, do games w Expedition 33 Dev Confirms $50 Price Is Correct, '30+ Hours of Main Game'

    What a world we live in, where cheaper games are seen as less quality because the theory of capitalism has conditioned us to believe higher quality = higher price.

    sub_, do gaming w The Last of Us 2 PS5 Remaster Announced, Has a Brand New Survival Mode, $10 Upgrade Path

    Normally I’d say it’s a greedy cash grab, but it’s $10 upgrade path for existing owner, instead of reselling it for $50 - $70? Also there’s a new rouge-like / souls-like mode? Maybe branding this release as ‘remaster’ is not doing them any favor, it’d probably better for them to market it as free PS5 upgrade and a survival mode expansion for $10.

    Jordan Middler from VGC heard that this might be a project for new hires https://postimg.cc/gX28TY3r

    Ian Stokes (@IanVanCheese) from Twitter posted that “If I was Sony, I would maybe let my S-tier studio that excels at making new IPs and interesting games actually make new games, instead of forcing them to photocopy their previous A+ report card for eternity”

    to which Jordan Middler from VGC (@JordanMiddler) replied “From what I was told from one person, this was more of a project for new hires to get them in the game. Druckmann’s team is full steam ahead on original. One doesn’t takeaway from the other afaik”

    I really hope that Naughty Dog would move on to do something more cheerful than TLOU, the mood is just too oppressive and taxing, especially in TLOU2 where the game is very long.

    ConstableJelly,

    I personally think TLOU2 is one of the most effective works of art in the entire medium and I love the game top to bottom, but I’m also overjoyed to hear they’re working on something else now.

    I too hope it’s more cheerful, for the exact same reasons.

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