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tekato, do games w 'An embarrassing failure of the US patent system': Videogame IP lawyer says Nintendo's latest patents on Pokémon mechanics 'should not have happened, full stop'

Capcom should start their patent for 2D fighting games and see what happens to Super Smash Bros

BreadstickNinja, do games w Former Dragon Age writer says Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 and Baldur's Gate 3 prove 'what's possible when a game is given time to cook'

The reaction to Clair Obscur has been wild. I had a friend I haven’t talked to since high school - when we were both big Final Fantasy fans - reach out to ask if I’d played it. A bunch of guys at work are talking about it who I didn’t even know were gamers. I hope we see a lot more of these passionate, creative projects and the infrastructure to support them.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

I was skeptical about it. I saw a lot of it being compared with Final Fantasy and I’ve been largely pretty disappointed with most Final Fantasy offerings since X.

Picked it up recently on the recommendation of another Lemming and, holy shit, this might be the best RPG I’ve ever played. Hands down, it’s that good. God bless the French. This game is making me feel things I haven’t felt since I was a teenager.

naticus,

Seriously, I keep trying to get people to get a taste of it, to the point I’ve even gifted it. It’s been fascinating and beautiful and devastating. Haven’t finished it yet, but getting very close and I only regret it’ll have to end soon.

CaptPretentious,

I originally wasn’t going to get it. I saw the Persona style combat menu and RPG… I have limited time to play games so I have to be picky.

I caught someone playing it… oh yeah, bought the game right away. The writing is amazing, and there’s no “grind” you often find with many of the JRPG-style games

Tattorack, do games w After the catastrophe of Concord Sony is reportedly cancelling other projects including a God of War live service game
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Good riddance. Seems like Sony got the message; we’re sick of everything being a “live service”.

justOnePersistentKbinPlease,

Well, no.
Deep Rock Galactic has fully optional skin packs to make money and they're doing great.

Warframe has been chugging along for over a decade now and they're doing great. Beating the pants off of Destiny 2 for average player count.

The live service trick is that live service only works if the company actually cares about the product. Those two companies stand out because they legitimately care and have great communication with their communities.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

I’d say also it depends on the franchise. Depp rock? Be a funny space dwarf yelling rock and stone? Hell yes imma do that with some friends.

God of war? No. Much more serious tone, I want to do that alone to explore the narrative

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

So far Warframe has been the ONLY example of a good live service game. It’s the OG when it comes to the model, but it’s also the exception, and not the rule.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Destiny historically vasscilated between “fucking amazing” and “dumpster fire”. The problem has always been that it is near impossible to maintain that level of quality and entertainment consistently while also innovating on a regular basis. It is very difficult and very expensive.

ByteOnBikes, (edited )

They moved into “dumpster fire” territory significantly more than “fucking amazing”, sadly. Like one good expansion, three bad updates and two bad expansions, one good update.

ByteOnBikes,

Don’t forget Path of Exile.

Id argue a bunch of early access games that get constant updates are Live Service games too.

And indie games like Terraria and Minecraft were the best examples of live service.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

“Live service” is a game that has an always online requirement. Just getting updates on the regular doesn’t make it a live service if the game works just fine without an Internet connection.

Single player Ubisoft games are all “live services”, due to some of them needing a constant connection to Ubisoft’s servers, and them having in-game shops that only work while online.

stephen01king,

I’m not sure you got the right definition of live service game. What you said is the definition of always online games.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

They’re the same thing. “Live service” is how Activision-Blizzard rebranded games that required to be always online. They also solidified the outline of things publishers at the time were already doing with their always online games, such as endless content players will have to buy.

Those documents leaked many years ago, and soon after that the moniker was changed from “always online” to “Live Service”.

stephen01king,

You got any links to one of those leaks? That sounds kinda interesting.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll try and find them, but first I heard from it was from Jim Stirling. “The Jimquisition” on YouTube, I think. Haven’t kept up with that guy in years.

stephen01king,

Thanks in advance.

stephen01king,

I’d consider No Man’s Sky a pretty successful live service game, as well.

codexarcanum,

DRG and Warframe also hit the critical requirement of actually being games that are fun to play!

I haven’t played a lot of WF, but I’ve got hundreds of hours on DRG. There is no grind. Getting holiday loot takes 5 to 8 matched total, and the Seasons are long and very relaxed. I maxed out XP for this season already and the next probably won’t start until at least this summer.

The community is going strong, the game is fun, Ghost Ship seems stable and like a nice place to work. It’s so stupid that more companies don’t see that they could run like this instead of chasing “get rich quick” corporate schemes that always alienate the fans.

MothmanDelorian,

DRG doesn’t make me feel like they are taking advantage of me with their transactions because they aren’t required. It’s nice that way.

scala,

Warframe’s MTX is so fair too. All of it can be earned in game, get items sell items for Platinum (paid currency) get the item from the shop.

The exception is the Fan made skins that are a few bucks. But those directly support the fan created skins.

Warframe is mostly pay-2-convenience.

The latest story expansion Warframe 1999 was phenomenal. If you havent played it yet, definitely follow through the main story it’s all tied together. One of the best stories that continue to deliver.

SnotFlickerman, (edited ) do gaming w After years of holding out hope, 2024 was the year I finally gave up on BioWare

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/6039747584/hE525CD30/papea-kills-off-developers

Seriously this sentiment is old as hell. This comic is old as hell.

The BioWare of today is not the one that made the original Baldur’s Gate. Shit, it’s not even the BioWare that made the original Dragon Age.

They’ve been a hollowed out shell chasing whatever “AAA” style sells the most for a long time now. If Baldur’s Gate 3 had come out before Witcher 3, you can bet your ass Veilguard would look and play a hell of a lot more like BG3, because it’s painfully clear they did everything they could to crib the speed of the combat in Witcher 3, which was the hot shit when they started development. Similar to how Inquisition was chasing the Open World fad. If Baldurs Gate 3 had been the hot shit when they began development? Veilguard would have played like that instead.

It is what it is, and this has been this way since at least Dragon Age 2/Mass Effect 2.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

They’re just so risk-adverse. It’s the same as Andromeda, and Ubisoft is another great example. They’re so worried about getting the most players that they’re afraid to take risks. What if players don’t like this, what if the audience is smaller? Everything is done by committee and it becomes a fairly flat game.

boatswain,

Just as an FYI, “averse” is what you want there, rather than “adverse”. Likely an autocorrect thing, but figured I’d mention it just in case.

overload,

Strange that that’s the case. The thing that made the Witcher 3 good was the writing of the side quests, not the combat.

Not sure if I’ve played a game that’s pivoted to be more like the Witcher that has met that standard in that regard.

Vodulas,

The Witcher games have all had terrible combat, just getting slightly better each game. The folklore and universe are really what sells the Witcher games. Though the first one was still real bad.

Vodulas,

I hated the combat in Witcher 3. The combat in Veilguard does not feel the same to me, so if it is biting the Witcher, it also improved it. I get they were probably chasing trends, but Veilguard is a solid action game. The author clearly has a bias to CRPGs, and a soft spot for Origins (as do I), but that does not make Veilguard a bad game. Just different

savvywolf, do gaming w To appease a Steam user's demands for straight representation, Webfishing added a 'Straight' title that costs 9,999 fish bucks
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

Finally, representation for gay people who are into irony.

RiikkaTheIcePrincess, do gaming w The Doom mod that turns Margaret Thatcher into an undead cyberdemon has been removed by Bethesda yet again, this time for 'disobeying a ZeniMax employee'
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social avatar

“Disobeying a ZeniMax employee” being apparently some kind of crime gives me a sudden, near-desperate urge to disobey a ZeniMax employee.

Faydaikin,
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar
mp3, do gaming w The Doom mod that turns Margaret Thatcher into an undead cyberdemon has been removed by Bethesda yet again, this time for 'disobeying a ZeniMax employee'
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

this time for ‘disobeying a ZeniMax employee’

Reddit mod energy there

shnizmuffin, do gaming w The Doom mod that turns Margaret Thatcher into an undead cyberdemon has been removed by Bethesda yet again, this time for 'disobeying a ZeniMax employee'
@shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol avatar
smeg,

Faced with the return of one of humanity’s greatest threats, you have no choice but to head to THE TENTH CIRCLE OF HELL:

🇬🇧 THE UNITED KINGDOM OF 🇬🇧 GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND

I think we should put this on the tourist brochures

kindenough,

About that tourism...

On the other hand we Dutch run ads in the THE TENTH CIRCLE OF HELL, begging the Doom spawn coming for some nice debauchery, not to visit Amsterdam. True story.

leraje,
@leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

We do tell people. For example, when you get off the train at Reading station it clearly says “Welcome to Reading”.

Funwayguy, do games w Ubisoft comes crawlin' back to Steam
@Funwayguy@lemmy.world avatar

As much as I agree the 30% cut can be a bit steep, I do appreciate that part of it is going into ongoing R&D like Steam Deck and Proton benefiting the whole gaming industry. I’d like to think of it like Valve are investing into PC innovation similarly to the way Playstation, Xbox and Nintendo do for their new consoles.

CEbbinghaus,
@CEbbinghaus@lemmy.world avatar

But unlike valve the console R&D is limited to the consoles themselves. Valve is working to improve gaming for Linux in general and foster a more open and consumer friendly console system.

stupidcasey,

If you have to choose an evil monopoly hell bent on world domination and bloodshed you might as well choose steam at least they are owned by a private individual instead of a hive mind distilled from the pure greed of capitalism.

Kecessa, (edited )

A big part is going to buying yachts as well so Valve and Newell could 100% afford to charge a lot less than 30% and still do just as much r&d

To the downvoters: I hurt your feelings by saying that multibillionaire bad? :( Their money comes from your pockets, wake the fuck up.

luxurylaunches.com/…/gabe-newell-luxury-yachts.ph…

Chozo, (edited )
@Chozo@fedia.io avatar

Lemmy loves to shit on billionaires, until it's one they think they like.

Kellamity,

I don’t know why you’re being down voted, he is literally a billionaire

‘No ethical billionaires’ apart from this guy apparently

Kecessa,

I’ve had this conversation so many times and some people just can’t imagine that they might be paying more than they need to just so Gabe can collect yachts… People feel they’re getting their money’s worth because everything they’ve ever bought is priced based on the fact that there’s multimillionaires and billionaires higher up the chain…

PieMePlenty,

AFAIK it falls to a lower percentage if you sell more copies. As to why I dont mind the fee as a consumer; valve invests its earnings into linux gaming and does cool shit like that. I can’t remember the last time i aplauded ea or ubisoft or epic for doing something like that. Oh yeah… it was never. Id sooner applaud Microsoft for investing into a non lucrative venture like accessible gaming accessories. But they aren’t on the same playing field… so from them, I’d expect it.

If i were a developer, I’d let valve eat the 30%. The amount of customers they bring to the table, deal with chargebacks, host the files. That shit isn’t free. Epic has to take such a low amount because they don’t have as many users and can’t produce such sales numbers and don’t have to deal with as many chargebcks and don’t have to waste as much bandwidth hosting the files.

Kecessa,

Again, they can afford their R&D while paying their employees more than the industry average and while making the owner a multibillionaire, they 100% could afford to lower their cut without any negative impact on everyone but Gabe Newell.

The lower % starts if a game sells enough copies to make 10m$, Valve has made 3m$ at that point.

Stop defending the people that make you poorer, they’re not your friends, all billionaires exist at the expense of our wealth. All. Of. Them. Are. Evil.

PieMePlenty,

Well I guess I’ll just stop buying things then because all Im doing is contributing to some billionaire’s cocaine fund. This is capitalism. I learned to live with it. When the time comes to sieze the means of production and give power back to the proletariat, I’ll be there to help. Until then, I’d rather give Gabe my money so he can shove more ships up his ass than give it to Sweeney because at least Gabe will throw a penny back into linux gaming. Ill take the crumbs if I can get them because Im not a 21 year old student with a burning desire to change the system anymore.

Kecessa,

There’s a difference between dealing with it and defending it, you’re doing the latter by saying 30% is ok because reasons.

PieMePlenty,

And those “reasons” were plentiful. Most importantly is their market share. From a purely business perspective, if a distributor has 200% more users and charges 100% more while offering the same features, they will be the better choice - purely from en economical perspective. 30% is ok because you will reach a larger audience and if so many publishers disagreed with Steam’s cut, they wouldnt all come crawlin’ back would they? In other words, the market dictates the price and the market has decided that price is 30%. It doesnt matter who does or doesnt defend it. Thats what it is.

Kecessa,

As to why I dont mind the fee as a consumer; valve invests its earnings into linux gaming and does cool shit like that.

You’re also talking like they wouldn’t have as many customers if they reduced their cut which is completely ridiculous. More profit would go to the people actually doing the work or prices would go down.

Stop defending the billionaire, you’re making a fool of yourself.

WalnutLum, do gaming w Making good, profitable games 'will no longer keep you safe': industry expresses fury and heartbreak over closure of Hi-Fi Rush and Prey studios

Tango closed cause it was the one of the only studios under Zenimax that wasn’t currently making a game with “executive producer: Todd Howard” squirted all over it

helenslunch, (edited ) do gaming w Fallout 4's most popular mods are now ones that remove Bethesda's disastrous 'next gen' update
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I should be surprised that a bunch of nerds are fixing game-breaking updates in their spare time that were created by a multi-billion dollar corporation, but I’m not, at all.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Plus, this is Bethesda, and in particular their open world games. They have always been shit the fans had to fix if they wanted to play it, as the foundation was solid but the company didn’t do any actual development.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

When Bethesda began re-releasing Skyrim without ever fixing any of the many, many, MANY bugs, was when I realized they really don’t give a shit about quality. Unofficial Skyrim Patch has over a thousand bugs that haven’t been fixed by Bethesda, some as old as the original release.

ZombiFrancis,

This has been the gaming industry since the internet.

Back when gaming was still considered a niche pastime or just toys for kids, and the developers weren’t multi-billion corporations, the dynamic was one of a mutual love of the product.

That was like, barely a generation ago.

Telorand, do gaming w Nintendo is suing the makers of the Switch emulator Yuzu, claims 'There is no lawful way to use Yuzu'

Love how the courts are framing this. “ROMs are illegal software.” “Emulators are for playing pirated software.”

Fuck you, Nintendo. You made $1.6bil in profits last year. I bet the number of pirated copies of Zelda: TotK barely amount to a fraction of a percent of that.

Poggervania,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

Love how the courts are framing this. “ROMs are illegal software.” “Emulators are for playing pirated software.”

Ngl I kinda want them to use this logic and see what happens when they try to apply it to Nintendo’s own Virtual Console, which are emulators playing ROMs basically.

Hell, the games you can play in Animal Crossing are literal emulators with ROMs since they found iNES data in the headers.

DmMacniel,

EULA for us not for them.

conciselyverbose,

The courts aren't. Nintendo is.

Emulation has already been litigated to hell and back. It's very clearly legal, including relying on users pulling a blob or two from their hardware for the whole thing to function.

steal_your_face,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

Where has pulling proprietary blobs been litigated? I was under the impression it hadn’t been.

conciselyverbose,
cobra89,

Yeah that would make sense except you missed a key point:

Connectix’s development strategy was based upon reverse engineering the PlayStation’s BIOS firmware, first by using the unchanged BIOS to develop emulation for the hardware, and then by developing a BIOS of their own using the original firmware as an aid for debugging.

The whole point here is that Connectix used Sony’s BIOS to develop their own BIOS. Yuzu is not doing that. They don’t have their own BIOS they are providing to their users. They are telling people to use Nintendo’s bios, but that they aren’t providing it.

cobra89,

To put this another way, Yuzu relies on Nintendo’s BIOS to function. Connectix’s Game Station did not.

steal_your_face,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

I believe Nintendo’s argument has more to do with dumping the prod.keys than with using dumped “Roms”

cobra89,

This. This seems to be the argument that Nintendo is hinging on. In order for Yuzu to play the games properly you need a prod.keys file. I guess Nintendo is claiming that the keys in this file are owned by them and it’s illegal to have that number much in the same way the number used to represent the C code for decoding DVD copy protection is illegal: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number#Illegal_pr…

I am no lawyer but seems tenuous when you can run a program to get the prod.keys from your own console. Especially when that code is legal and exists on GitHub: github.com/Decscots/Lockpick_RCM

Schaedelbach, do games w Peter Molyneux is ready to disappoint us again with his latest game, a blockchain-based business sim

It’s all just buzzwordsalad at this point.

Who the fuck genuinely cares about a digital plot of land? The only reason stuff like this attracts people is the hope to make money, and therefore only people who only care about the monetary aspect play games like Legacy.

I highly suggest the YouTube channel “Jauwn”! The dude plays nft games “frome the perspective of a gamer”, so he tries to give those games a fair shot (although he is clearly biased against nfts in general). To no one’s surprise each and every nft game is just a grift to mine money in the pockets of idiots who think they are smarter than the rest.

kubica, do games w Bayonetta creator Hideki Kamiya says 'It would be a disaster' if he ever collaborated with Hideo Kojima or Yoko Taro: 'It doesn't work like in Dragon Ball'
@kubica@kbin.social avatar

"It doesn't work like in Dragon Ball, where Goku fuses with other characters," continued Kamiya, "Two people with completely different personalities and ideas would clash. There's no way you'd get a decent game of that."

bionicjoey,

It’s an interesting idea. I think sometimes two different creative people collaborate on something you can get something greater than the sum of its parts. But it all depends on the specific people and whether they have a shared vision for the art they’re creating together.

Even_Adder,

The guy’s a turd on Twitter. I think he’s just not-so-secretly just not a great guy. There’s probably a good reason he got fired.

echo64,

Everything he’s ever made was a collaboration between him and other creative people, he’s just being big headed about himself

Zehzin,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

But for the Fusion Dance to work in Dragon Ball both users have to be perfectly in sync or you get a bad fusion, he should have specified it doesn’t work like the Potara fusion. smh get your lore right

TwilightVulpine, do gaming w Elon Musk demanded a cameo in Cyberpunk 2077 while wielding a 200 year old gun: "I was armed but not dangerous"

What a ridiculous society we live in that someone can be so rich that they get to threaten people with a gun and don't get arrested. What an unhinged asshole he is.

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

You don’t even need to be rich, being a cop is more that enough.

Gamey,

At least those bastards certainly aren’t rich, better than nothing I guess!

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