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sirico, do games w 'An embarrassing failure of the US patent system': Videogame IP lawyer says Nintendo's latest patents on Pokémon mechanics 'should not have happened, full stop'
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

I’m going to patent electrons passing through a xor gate

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

You can get a licence from Nintendo if you like.

vrighter,

patent nand and nor! You’ll get much more out of it

AeonFelis,
@AeonFelis@lemmy.world avatar

You can probably get away with it if you write it in a confusing enough fashion; but you need to make it really confusing - to the point even CPU architecture experts could miss it unless they pay very close attention; and remember that the claims - which are the only part of the patent that has any legal meaning - may be limited by law to a single sentence each, but there is no limit on how cumbersome each sentence is; additionally, semicolons are not sentence terminators; this means that this entire comment I just wrote is technically a only one sentence.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Nah, you just need to get a friendly judge to tell whoever decides to dispute your patent that they’re wrong and your patent is totally valid and innovative

JackbyDev,

Prior art exists of that though so you wouldn’t be able to. I know you’re making a joke though lol.

SkyezOpen,

If Nintendo can patent MOUNTS in the year of our lord 2025, that lemming can patent logic gates.

JackbyDev,

I thought this was about the ball throwing to capture monsters

SkyezOpen,

They filed a fuck load of patents. This is one of them.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e8993fab-1085-4091-8ddd-76e7e547cd44.png

Translation: mounts that can walk and fly. Which already exist in God knows how many games.

JackbyDev,

I fucking hate Nintendo.

MudMan, do games w 'Spitting in the face of your international audience': The Alters cops to using generative AI for background text and translations, despite not disclosing such on Steam

Just so we're clear, the first pass of localization of every game you've played in the past decade has been machine-generated.

Which is not to say the final product was, people would then go over the whole text database and change it as needed, but it's been frequent practice for a while for things like subtitles and translations to start from a machine generated first draft, not just in videogames but in media in general. People are turning around 24h localization for TV in some places, it's pretty nuts.

Machine generated voices are also very standard as placeholders. I'm... kinda surprised nobody has slipped up on that post-AI panic, although I guess historically nobody noticed when you didn't clean up a machine-translated subtitle, but people got good at ensuring all your VO lines got VOd because you definitely notice those.

As with a lot of the rest of the AI panic, I'm confused about the boundaries here. I mean, Google Translate has used machine learning for a long time, as have most machine translation engines. The robot voices that were used as placeholders up until a few years ago would probably be fine if one slipped up, but newer games often use very natural-sounding placeholders, so if one of those slips I imagine it'd be a bit of drama.

I guess I don't know what "AI generated" means anymore.

I haven't bumped into the offending text in the game (yet), but I'm playing it in English, so I guess I wouldn't have anyway? Neither the article nor the disclosure are very clear.

That said, the game is pretty good, if anybody cares.

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Machine generated voices are also very standard as placeholders. I’m… kinda surprised nobody has slipped up on that post-AI panic

Diablo 4 had this recently, where an obviously Microsoft Sam like robot voice made it through, and a few people lost their minds.

Nils,

I thought MS Sam was an accessibility feature, that you can enable and disable text-to-speech. Did they use that for NPCs voice-overs?

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Ok? It was a temporary voice file that the devs forgot to remove or replace. And people immediately screamed that Blizzard is trying to sneak AI into the game.

Nils,

Oh, I did not know that. Thanks for explaining it.

afaix,

historically nobody noticed when you didn’t clean up a machine-translated subtitle

I don’t know about that, it’s super noticeable when that happens, it’s just that it mostly affects languages other than English, so it did not get noticed by Western media unless there is a review bombing campaign after a particularly atrocious localization

MudMan, (edited )

As a non-native English speaker, let me tell you, terrible localization was very much a thing that happened well before machine translation, so that by itself (and more subtle typos or one-off errors) was definitely not enough to infer that someone had forgotten to fix a machine-translated line once.

You can definitely tell when something has been machine-translated and not fixed, but the real challenge is lack of context. This leads to nonsensical localization even today, whether it's human or automated, especially in crowdsourced localizations, which are frequent in open source software. I contribute to some on occassion and maaaan, do I wish well intentioned people in that space would stop contributing to projects they don't use/lines they haven't seen in situ.

chicken,

but I’m playing it in English, so I guess I wouldn’t have anyway?

The text in the screenshot in the reddit post they link is in English

MudMan,

I hadn't clicked through to the Reddit thing (for obvious reasons). The example in the article proper is in a Portuguese subtitle, but now that you pointed me at it and I did check the Reddit thread... well, that text is not legible in game unless you really try, so yeah, I hadn't read it. I'm guessing that's the only English instance?

reksas, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

says some rich asshole who probably hasn’t done real work a day in his life, likely living off dividends and bribe money

Duamerthrax,

And the healthcare Congress provides.

BmeBenji, do games w On the prospect of an $80-$90 GTA 6, former PlayStation boss says 'it's an impossible equation' for big-budget studios to keep their prices down

What a bold-faced clearly obvious motherfucking lie.

Rockstar has released only 2 full games in the past 13 years because everything they’ve done since then has been funded by microtransactions. The price of entry is negligible to them when whales pay for multiple copies of the game every fuckin month.

Viri4thus, do games w Helldivers 2 players rip into Arrowhead for 'straight-up ridiculous' Killzone crossover prices, CEO defends the choice

"“615 SC for a primary weapon is straight-up ridiculous,” wrote user Goopmaster_ in a top-upvoted post on the Helldivers subreddit. “”

This is what passes for news today… Holy shit.

slaacaa,

“Commenters online are SLAMMING pcgamer’s article on the Helldivers 2 controversy - click for more details”

Viri4thus,

slaacaa destroys PCGAMER’s coverage of the helldivers2 microtransaction implementation.

Dumbkid, do gaming w Phil Spencer blames capitalism for games industry woes: 'I don't get [the] luxury of not having to run a profitable growing business'
@Dumbkid@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think the real problem is businesses have to grow. If most big companies weren’t publicly traded then just being profitable would be enough.

Imagine making enough money to pay you and everyone else in your company a great wage one year, but it being bad because it wasn’t more profit than last year.

Anticorp,

I’ve seen companies phrase 8% growth as a negative because they missed their 10% growth target that they just pulled out of their own ass.

kadu,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

Infinite growth in an obviously finite world is such a moronic concept, yet the driving force of capitalism

jaycifer, do games w DC Comics adamant The Wolf Among Us' source material is not in the public domain, as its creator calls them 'thugs and conmen' and insists it is

I was reading a blog post that talks about exactly how much the author is able to put in the public domain. My understanding is that Willingham has a fairly individualized contract with DC that he is grandfathered in on and is rather abnormal nowadays and gives him more control. DC has been trying to, as stated above, “reinterpret” that contract to give them more control.

Essentially, DC may own the rights to the individual products they published, but the world and characters Willingham created can be used outside of those in new or reimagined context.

paysrenttobirds,

Thanks for that link, amazing. I didn’t realize how unlikely US is to change copyright length, or how important the creative commons license was

roguetrick,

That creates a significant can of worms in regards to what parts of the character are derived from the source material that is owned by DC. See not allowing sherlock holmes to smile for an example.

HidingCat,

Wow, just read half of it, it's a really murky situation (as the article mentions).

conciselyverbose, do gaming w Bards are Baldur's Gate 3's best class and I can't imagine playing it as anything else

I'm skeptical of any article like this on its face. The whole beauty of a well done RPG, especially a CRPG, is that you get choices on how to build your character and how you handle encounters and can be successful with many of them.

If bard is the most fun for you, awesome. If it's "objectively better", the game is flawed.

dingus,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

Arguably, that’s the whole point. I never played the original Fallout thinking I could play every option. I’ve seen people complaining about “you have to use savescumming or you miss half the dialogue.” No, that’s called “replayability” so when you go back and try as a different type of character, there will be paths you’ll be locked out of, but there will also be paths that were previously closed now open.

oo1,

that's something I've noticed about bg3 (only 1-2h in) vs the old ones and even ps:torment.
in most of those you can continue the dialog and usually circle back to the other choices.

in bg3 its seems much more like, you say one option you're stuck with it - which seems much better.

i'll be interested to see on the replay - but i guess itll be up to me to play it differently.

Reddit_Is_Trash,

Bg3 makes you feel like your choices matter. I havnt progressed very far (10 hours in and mostly exploring) and there have been points in dialog or exploring the open world when I pass a “point of no return”. This is where I can tell there will be a consequence (good or bad) to my choices, but perhaps it’s not immediately seen. I havnt had most of these choices pay off yet, but it builds anticipation and makes me want to see how this will play out and wonder if it will come up further down the line when I least expect.

Taako_Tuesday,

I really think one of the essential parts of a well-made rpg is that it can make you feel like whichever class you’ve picked is the best one

GolGolarion,

That’s actually my biggest criticism of D&D. Bards are better choices than rogues or fighters or wizards. Same goes with clerics or druids. sprinkle on a bit of paladin, a couple feats, and some magic gauntlets, and they can invalidate whole swathes of staple fantasy archetypes entirely.

oo1,

if by better you mean, more fun, i think that's slightly up to you.
you can have just as much fun with a more constrained character who keeps losing dice rolls - it might be harder work though.

GolGolarion,

no, i mean more empowered to interact with the game world. They have more agency in more arenas of play. You can play a goober of any class and have fun, i agree, but a goober who picks a “better” class will be able to create more comedies of errors beyond “Player fails to hit thing with a big stick”.

TwilightVulpine,

That's the issue with how combat oriented D&D is. While there is a wide assortment of abilities between classes and their roles in combat, a lot of non-combat situations are reduced to just roling high on a skill check, not many choices and approaches to be made. There might be the odd utility spell, but even that isn't a choice for martial classes. Because of that, Bards dominate non-combat encounters, with Jack of all Trades and Expertise.

LiquorFan,

It’s not a problem for a videogame, but D&D5e (actually most D&D editions) is not a balanced game at all. In fact the only RPG that I’ve played and would call balanced is Pathfinder 2e.

So I was not expecting Baldur’s Gate to be balanced at all given it’s based on D&D5e.

GreenKnight23, (edited ) do games w The official Nintendo Museum appears to be emulating SNES games on a Windows PC, which is slightly embarrassing

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  • bitwolf,

    I believe they do have their own emulator. It logically would be what powers the Nintendo arcade

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  • bitwolf,

    Agreed I would totally support emus using a business software license just because of how they’re treated by business.

    Float,

    I assume most FOSS emulators have a non-commercial license, so if a company is using it to make money they are already violating the law, but who is gonna go after Nintendo for that?

    socksy,

    If they had that, they’d no longer be FOSS and instead “source available” and half the community will raise the pitch forks. Best FOSS licence to protect against this sort of thing is AGPL because it’s toxic for corporations. But even that could be used in this case if they had the source on the same computer imo (IANAL though)

    Float,

    Good to know, ty!

    angstylittlecatboy,

    The thing is, we know Nintendo does have in-house developed emulators that they used for Virtual Console and then NSO and the Classic Edition.

    It’s fairly likely they didn’t take the effort to port those to PC for the museum, but still.

    skittlebrau, do gaming w It only took two days for someone to unlock a developer mode in Baldur's Gate 3's modding tools, opening up the possibility of custom levels and campaigns

    I’d like to think it was a subtle middle finger to Hasbro.

    DragonOracleIX,

    What did hasbro do this time?

    BenReilly97,

    The fact that you have to ask “this time” may be the reason.

    Ertebolle, do games w The official Lord of the Rings special effects studio is making a cozy hobbit game

    The Stardewification of everything continues - can't wait until Half-Life 3 finally comes out and it turns out that Black Mesa has purchased a dilapidated farm in the countryside that they've taken Gordon Freeman out of stasis to restore for them.

    ivanafterall,

    God, that sounds so good. In VR! Gordon and Alyx in their golden years.

    nezbyte,

    The Combine will be driving combine harvesters.

    ivanafterall,

    The robots from Portal could make a cameo. It'd be like the ending of Return of the King. The gang's all here!

    warmaster,

    I can’t wait to protect my pumpkin farm in Ravenholm against headcrabs.

    hihello,

    What others games have been Stardew’d?

    tekato, do games w 'An embarrassing failure of the US patent system': Videogame IP lawyer says Nintendo's latest patents on Pokémon mechanics 'should not have happened, full stop'

    Capcom should start their patent for 2D fighting games and see what happens to Super Smash Bros

    otacon239, do games w On the prospect of an $80-$90 GTA 6, former PlayStation boss says 'it's an impossible equation' for big-budget studios to keep their prices down

    Absolutely no way Take-Two can afford anything less than $5B in profit every year. The stock market was a mistake.

    RonnyZittledong, do gaming w Casper Van Dien is loving the Starship Troopers renaissance but still finds it mind-boggling some take it at face value
    @RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world avatar

    There will always be morons that just don’t get it. It is how Q Anon went from a 4chan joke to what it is now.

    TexasDrunk,

    Also what happened to t_d on Reddit.

    stufkes,

    What happened? Who is t_d?

    TexasDrunk,

    Reasonable question! It was a sub called “the_donald”. It started with a bunch of folks saying outrageous things that were satirizing Trump and his followers. Unfortunately it wasn’t outrageous enough because it was slowly taken over by true believers who spouted the same outrageous shit because they actually believed it.

    Feathercrown, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit

    Come on, not every guy with a beard is–

    “Hi this is Gaben”

    OOOOOOHHHH MA GAWD

    bfg9k,
    @bfg9k@lemmy.world avatar

    Thats: gayben@valvesoftware.com

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