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XM34, do games w We did it! 🥳

Absolutely what everyone else says. Keep signing. There’s a good chance this petition could reach the most signatures ever for a EU Citizens Initiative. I believe the current record is 1.7mil.

ddplf,

What was it that reached so many signatures?

XM34,

Of all things a Pro Life petition.

BroBot9000,
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

🤮

DerArzt, do gaming w Not allowed!

I never understood this one. Why is the Red Cross so annoyed about videogames depicting the red cross to mean health?

renegadespork,

I think they were worried about their branding being associated with violence. In the 90s, there was a ton of anti-video game propaganda branding it as violent garbage that was corrupting our children.

Ironically, video games are very good at conditioning human responses to iconography. So despite the Red Cross’ hostility, video games still succeeded in conditioning a lot of people to instantly associate plus signs (any color) with health.

Kimmie,

i think it has to do with trademarking law
if enough people use is to mean other stuff they can lose their trademark

edit: i looked it up and its called genericize

unexposedhazard,

Its pretty obvious to me.

The red cross, red crescent and red crystal emblems provide protection for military medical services and relief workers in armed conflicts.

Under no circumstance is it acceptable to create a situation where something could be mistakenly identified as being associated with the Red Cross. If it appears in the game it might appear on a publicly visible computer screen, poster, TV, etc and thats not acceptable.

Skua,

It is, genuinely, in the Geneva Conventions that nobody should use the red cross except for to designate medical staff and establishments that are protected under the conventions. The idea is to make sure that there is absolutely never any doubt that that symbol means anything else in order to minimise the risk to those people

ThePyroPython,

Yeah they have a legitimate case for defending the use of the symbol so aggressively and the best way to avoid is to use the green and white variant that is used on pretty much every first-aid kit sold.

Still has the desired effect for both parties.

RightHandOfIkaros,

My biggest gripe with this is games that present a historical setting, such as World War 2 games. The Red Cross was all over the place during WW2. Saying game developers cannot ever use it under any context means that a game that wants to present historical accuracy would not be able to.

Matriks404,

The way it could work is that they could just put a message before starting the game that the red cross is only there to present a historical setting, but otherwise is a symbol of Red Cross movement. And there could be a setting to switch to green crosses, if you want to stream, etc.

JackbyDev,

To add, the first time I heard about it was through the video game stuff. So if anything, I think we should view them going after game devs as a form of spreading awareness. When it hits headlines it makes it clear just how important it is to not use it in other contexts.

Owlboi,

i look at this and nod. then i look at sponsored fortnite skins with the red cross and realize they dont give a fuck about that actually, theyre just greedy.

Skua,

I haven't played Fortnite so I might be missing something, but glancing at screenshots and promotional stuff it looks like they're consistently using white on red instead of red on white

Owlboi,

damn you right. fuck them anyway

psx_crab,

Not sure about everyone else but to me using an insanely popular game to fund global non-profit organisation is kinda a good way to raise money. It’s really a weird hill to die on.

kungen,

Switzerland almost in trouble.

OrteilGenou,

England blocked

DragonTypeWyvern,

(it’s literally the Swiss cross)

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

…And Johnson & Johnson.

Smokeydope,
@Smokeydope@lemmy.world avatar

nods and continues to use original doom wads with the red cross design for health pickups because the green one from BFG editions look like shit

ViatorOmnium,

The red cross sign has a very specific meaning and protection under international law. They don't want the symbol to be used outside of the agreed uses because they don't want that meaning, and consequently the protection it affords, to get muddled.

They also don't like when a red cross is used on a random first aid kit in the real world.

spankmonkey,
@spankmonkey@lemmy.world avatar

What about on a country’s flag?

ViatorOmnium,

Everyone is betting Tonga will not get itself into a war.

But if it hypothetically happened, I assume they would be pressured to use an alternative war flag by the international community.

On a more serious note, applying international laws against sovereign states is always more complicated than to enforce them against individuals and organizations operating inside of signatory states.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Just start labeling health packs with the Swiss flag. Problem solved. 😌

DragonTypeWyvern,

It is the Swiss flag… Because of Geneva and their pesky Conventions which they FORCED on everyone with their ARMY KNIVES

MonkderVierte,
MonkderVierte,

It’s color-inversed and the countries flag was there first.

zerofk, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games

When I saw the post’s title I was hoping for a good, perhaps even balanced, critique of the remake’s choices, or the underlying engine’s shortcomings, or perhaps even the original designs.

All I got was “dumpster fire”.

Coelacanth, do games w Is Baldurs Gate 3's voice acting so great that it ruined other games for me?
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

BG3 is great and all but there are other games with at least equal voice acting quality. For all its qualities I never felt like “wow, I’ve never seen voice acting like this in a game!” when I played BG3. It’s really good and really consistent but nothing earth shattering.

I know I bring up Disco Elysium a lot, but that is one game where I got repeatedly shocked at the quality and diversity of the voice acting. With the exception of one single character I think it’s acted to absolute perfection.

I also didn’t really feel the same about Alan Wake 2 like, at all. I thought it had superb acting (both voice and full video segments) and probably hold the quality of its acting above BG3 personally. Alan Wake 1 less so.

MrQuallzin,

Disco Elysium was my first thought as well. Such great voice acting! It is easily my favorite game, and now I’m looking forward to Hopetown

False,

Which character did you not like?

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I don’t think Ruby works well but I suspect it’s a problem with direction rather than the voice actor themselves.

SippyCup,

mass effect and the first few dragon age games had great acting, Kingdom come has great acting, most of the Sony exclusives have great acting, it’s out there. It’s just rare.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I second Disco Elysium’s voice acting and also all of Supergiant Games catalogue, especially Bastion, Transistor, and Hades. Portal 2 is the most hilarious video game of all time, and a major part of that is its voice acting.

The Stanley Parable, Borderlands 1/2, Prey, System Shock 1/2, the Bioshock series, SOMA, the new Doom games, Path of Exile, all elevated by their voice acting.

snailboy,

I’d also put Still Wakes the Deep on that list.

Venicon,
@Venicon@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed. BG3 is outstanding but I loved AW2, thought the acting and Mocap etc was brilliant

henfredemars, do gaming w Tetris

Many great games are like this. Dwarf Fortress is my personal favorite, where losing is fun.

Xenny,

Project Zomboid goes “THIS IS HOW YOU DIED” Everytime I start a new game and well, it hasn’t been wrong yet.

Zidane,

Is the new build coop yet? I wanna work a farm with the homies.

dubyakay,

Sadly it is not.

lemmyng,
@lemmyng@lemmy.ca avatar

Finding new ways in which the environment (or your own actions) can kill you in Noita is very satisfying.

9bananas,

right up until redacted and suddenly it’s reeeaaaal difficult to find a way to end the game, because dying isn’t an option if you didn’t prepare for it XD

WorldsDumbestMan,

I found one of those genies that multiply in someone’s multiplayer room.

I farmed the Valkyrie for wishes until I was broken, but I still could not reliably cast my own wish spell. Turns out, it gets harder to cast the more you level it up. You would need some ridicilous stuff to counter that.

trigg,

I’m always here for DF talk. Aquifer and active volcano remains a favourite

henfredemars,

Oh man I used to hate aquifers. They’re more manageable in the latest version but I still don’t find myself enjoying it as a resource.

Volcanos are too much fun. I often unleash gratuitous amounts of fun playing with lava.

sp3tr4l,

Kenshi also doesn’t really have a ‘win’ state.

Lots of other sandbox style games as well.

Can you ‘win’ Caves of Qud? Or just… not die lol?

grimoire,

Qud has an ending now, it came with the 1.0 update.

sp3tr4l,

Ah! Did not know that, thanks!

I’ll have to give it another spin.

WorldsDumbestMan,

I somehow became unable to lose, getting FPS death instead, and was forced to quit.

I am a failure.

henfredemars,

Back in the day we disabled thermal calculation and used DFHack to clean up items.

Not sure how well the Steam version addresses this.

nerdschleife, do games w What did everyone grab during the Steam Winter Sale?

Wanted to play It Takes Two with my gf when it launched. Hoping to convince her now that she’s my wife

BluuTato,

Oh It Takes Two is a good one! Played it with my partner a while back and had a great time!

Nythos,

It Takes Two is an amazing couples game that my girlfriend refuses to play again because of one scene lol

stom,

That damned elephant?

Nythos,

Aye, that’s the one.

Zathras,

This is my favorite game ever!!! Enjoy the experience.

TheCannonball,

Played it with my wife. We both agreed the gameplay is great but the story is awful. We disagreed that they should stay together in the end.

ShellMonkey, do games w What games have you sunk the most time into?
@ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com avatar

Rimworld, way too much Rimworld. A big part of it is that I’ll often have it one a second computer during the workday just on pause to pop in during downtime but I guess that still counts as playtime just being loaded.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Ive got 2.2k hours in RimWorld and I’ve only ever tried to launch a spaceship once(spoiler I died).

Such a good game, such good modding scene.

Boiglenoight,

I’ve tried the game a few times and it doesn’t click with me. What’s is it that you find so appealing?

technoego,

Emergent gameplay is what appeals to me

ShellMonkey,
@ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com avatar

For me a lot of it is in trying to maximize efficiencies. Setting up task duties and resources where you have plenty enough but not overloading your storage. Defensive position designs to counter any possible situation. Layouts to the base to allow free movement.

Lot of others try for specific artistic ideas or scenario goals, but I’m something of engineer minded player.

Boiglenoight,

I’m not efficiency oriented at all. Which I dislike because I wish I was, but simply not. I do like base building games, and enjoyed Banished a lot.

I imagine you’ve played Satisfactory.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

I like that each pawn builds up a personality overtime and grows as a character. I pretty much just play Rimworld as a doll house simulator

Boiglenoight,

I feel this way about XCOM. I’ll give this a shot.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

When someone does a heroic move I elevate them to hero status in the colony and they get a better bedroom, better armour and the best weapon.

Boiglenoight,

Dangit you’re making me want to play. Can you build an army with laser guns?

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Charge rifles or charge lances in vanilla. More laser weapons that you could ever use if you use mods.

mosiacmango,

Look for the “vanilla expanded” mods.

It is a dedicated and organized team of modders that has output a stunning amount of content, all of it cohesive, and what many would consider required “base game” content.

They have literally put out dozens of mods that could be standalone DLC, all for free.

Boiglenoight,

I will. Going to start playing again today. Trying to pull away from Hollow Knight which I committed to finally trying this holiday. That’s a fantastic game.

Zarxrax, do games w Making peace with liking very few games?

I’ve found that as I got older, my taste in games has narrowed significantly. I used to be able to play pretty much anything, or especially any popular or critically acclaimed games. But these days I just don’t give a shit about most of what’s out there. I do have certain genres and developers that interest me though, so I know there are occasionally going to be some new games that I really like. And every now and then I might get surprised by something too.

natecox,
@natecox@programming.dev avatar

I suspect this is a natural result of having much more limited time as we become adults. I used to love all kinds of games too, but today if I feel like a game doesn’t respect my time it gets thrown right onto the “no thanks” pile.

Bronzebeard,

It’s limited time, but also the selection these last few years has felt very uninspired. Everything is extremely derivative and been done to death.

There was a mass consolidation of developers/publishers recently, on top of further extended development cycles that has really limited any kind of variety we might have seen.

Rhynoplaz,

The last few games I was looking forward to have all been pretty disappointing.

Mammothmothman,

You can only play reskins of essentially the same game for so long. Not to mention recycling gameplay loops microtransaction hell toxic multiplayer experience (cheating griefing), makes for a minefield of unplesant game experiences. Sticking to what you like and know is how you get enjoyment out of playing.

mesamunefire,

Yep I just go to indies now. The AAA studios feel just samey.

robolemmy,
@robolemmy@lemmy.world avatar

I’m retired and have basically unlimited time. I still don’t like most games.

say_roguelike_one_more_time_mf.jpg

mohab,

Does it not feel weird sometimes to be disconnected from the gaming zeitgeist? Like, we can obviously still follow news and whatnot, but I'm particularly talking about having no significant emotional investment in contemporary releases—in other words: being disconnected from the hype of announcements and release cycles.

I know people consider this a blessing in this age of hyper-consumerism, but there's a communal aspect to it that I like, and it often feels odd to not be part of it.

KingJalopy,
@KingJalopy@lemm.ee avatar

Not weird for me. I don’t play anymore at all. Don’t even have a system to do so. But, I watch YouTube videos about games and game facts or speed running every night before bed. I know more about games now than when I actually played them. I just don’t have time for them anymore but that doesn’t mean they don’t interest me. I lost my passion for playing games years ago but not the idea of it. I don’t know or care about the hype but I just find it terribly interesting via others hype or interest in these games. If that makes sense.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

Like, we can obviously still follow news and whatnot

I stopped following the news first, then largely lost interest in new games after that. After TotalBiscuit passed I haven’t seen a single thing about video game news or reviews. If there’s something I’m interested in I might skim through a review, but that’s the most I do.

nutbutter,

I thought I was the only one!

can, do games w You know what would be cool? If all those (job name) simulator games could all be joined.

Pretty sure we’re in that

SharkEatingBreakfast,
@SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz avatar

I’m not having fun or making money.

Who do I send a bug report to?

can,

A therapist

lastweakness,

But therapists are expensive :(

ProdigalFrog, do games w Denmark is the 5th country to pass the #StopKillingGames EU threshold - 340K out of 1M signatures in total!

If you’re not sure what StopKillingGames is about, the creator of the campaign, Ross Scott (of Freeman’s Mind fame) made this short video to give the rundown.

spaghetti_hitchens,

I'm in the US and can't help, but that video is fuckin brilliant. I want to have a beer with that guy

ProdigalFrog,

You’d probably enjoy his normal content then! He makes great stuff.

mp3, do games w Does AAAA just mean awful triple A games now?
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

The extra A comes from the MBAs adding their grain of salt that no one wants.

snooggums,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

So the extra A is for ‘Asshole’?

ms_lane,

A (A Grade, not B grade)

AA A Advanced

AAA An Advanced Advertisment

AAAA An Advanced Advertising Arsehole.

Mad_Punda, do games w Recommendation engine: Downvote any game you've heard of before

Calcium Contract is a boomer shooter with a pretty unique rewind feature. Humorous with old school feels, but for a modern time. It’s a one man project.

Sanctus, do games w Recommendation engine: Downvote any game you've heard of before
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Gridworld - a simulation game made up of a grid, as the name suggests. You can control the size of the grid, and what spawns in it. The core of the game are these tiny creatures that each take up 1 square. They have varying nodes on them that represent traits and abilities. Under the hood the game says these have to be “wired” correctly by the neural network to make a creature act right. So basically you let this thing run for hours and eventually get little square creatures that eat plants and maybe each other to live.

MentalEdge, do games w Half Life 3
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Valve doesn’t need to make games anymore. Their corporate structure allows for it, but relies on people at the company wanting to work on it.

But if they don’t, it’s not really a problem. The company is doing fine.

I think they just lost interest. They got back to it with Alyx because VR was exciting and new territory to explore.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

Pretty much this. I’m fairly certain that I read years ago that Gabe just wasn’t interested as well. Which fair enough valve don’t need to develop games now because they have to but because they want to.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

This is the correct answer I think. They’re also not interested in releasing sub-par games, and again like you say they don’t need to release games at all to make money anymore. So if they’re not that interested and haven’t come up with anything conceptually/mechanically that reaches the high bar they’ve set for themselves, it makes more sense to scrap/postpone.

Their reputation is much more important, and they’re just not going to half-ass Half Life 3. It will come out when they feel they have something truly extraordinary, or it won’t come out at all.

WraithGear,
@WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

They seem to release these games as some sort of tech demo show showcasing what they see is the future of games. One has the set peice structure of game design, two was the physics engine, and Alex was VR. So other then the continuation of the time line, half life Alex pretty much was half life three. Also they know the hype/meme train has been building for so long that nothing will be good enough. Like Duke nukem.

Cheems,
@Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t worry we have Alyx 2 to look forward to

darganon, do games w What's up with Epic Games?

The multi-billionaire owner with the backing of the Chinese government is claiming that he’s the underdog against a popular company/piece of software/GabeN. He’s made some poor choices interacting with the community.

Yes, it’s probably nice for a publisher to have a guaranteed income, which is why they sell exclusivity. It leaves a sour taste in my mouth, so I choose not to support it.

The rest about the launcher being bad sounds unhinged to me, but some people are really into that.

They bought Rocket League and actively made it worse.

Rose,

The multi-billionaire owner with the backing of the Chinese government

Who cares about the backing if it has no effect on anything? I’m more concerned about Valve having a separate Steam client for China, censoring their games specifically for China and even reportedly banning for bringing up Winnie the Pooh.

test113,

lol XD, let me tell you, if someone is financing something like that, they sure as heck expect something in exchange someday.

So, you believe a government powerful enough to make unaffiliated companies bow to their liking won’t leverage their investment?

Why do you think they invested? Just for fun?

You invest to gain influence, not to have less influence.

AustralianSimon,
@AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar
Rose,

Since this is a gaming community, it would be more relevant to say that Tencent likely has a stake in something that you already play or use, like Discord.

AustralianSimon,
@AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

Like Epic which is the topic of this thread.

Rose,

Most investments aren’t to gain influence but to profit. At this time, there is no sign of Epic doing anything that could be explained by the alleged influence of the Chinese government, and as the majority owner, Tim Sweeney has the final say anyway.

test113,

I never said it was not for profit. I said you invest to gain influence, which is true by fact, not an opinion. If I buy a significant number of shares in a company, I do so because I want more than money; I want influence on decision-making. I do not think the Chinese government is only interested in monetary gains; do you think that’s their only goal?

And again, do you believe a country/government able to indoctrinate any business that wants a share of their market, like the Steam example, is only invested for monetary gains and nothing else?

Tim Sweeney can do and decide many things, but opposing the Chinese government is certainly not one. And I don’t know how you imagine influence, but having 40% of a company is something I call influence, wouldn’t you? Even if they can’t tell him how to run the business, he sure as hell will do nothing that could worsen the relationship between him and his biggest investor, aka Tencent. And who is behind Tencent? The Chinese government.

Rose,

It’s all in the realm of “what if”. Sure, it could attempt this or that, but it hasn’t, nor is there any guarantee that it would fly. That just brings me back to the original point of when a company that is not partially owned by the Chinese actively works to please the Chinese government to further their business interest but I don’t see much of that with Epic. If you look at some of the other companies in which Tencent has a large stake, like Dontnod, there’s absolutely no sign of the Chinese agenda in the games either.

test113,

Yes, and you are entitled to your own opinion, but that does not change the facts. No, the influence is not “what if it is there” – it is there, plain and simple. That’s not up for discussion. It’s public knowledge that Tencent owns 40%, and Tencent is a government-controlled entity. It does not matter if they “abuse/use” it actively or not. It sounds like, in your mind, influence is only relevant when you use it actively, which is not true.

Cybersteel,
@Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

They’re also just plain unethical. There’s never been a government as insidious as the CCP in exploiting vulnerable foreign nations like South Africa or South East Asia thru incentives that are basically just a debt trap.

darganon,

Who cares about the backing if it has no effect on anything?

It’s more illustrating that Epic isn’t underfunded. I don’t know anything about steam in China.

Rose,

Epic not being underfunded is stating the obvious. Just look at the scope of their Fortnite collaborations.

Sylvartas,

I don’t disagree with everything you said here but come on, Steam is basically a privately owned PC games store monopoly that has now been going on for 25 years. Since it’s not public we can’t really know for sure but there’s a very real possibility that Epic is the underdog here

darganon,

I don’t think steam has any anti-competitive behavior that I’m aware of.

Fortnite has roughly 100 million more monthly active users than steam, to say nothing of every piece of software running Unreal Engine, Epic is huge.

dotMonkey,

Steam was fined in Australia for not providing refunds for games

Firenz,

It was a bit more than just an issue of Valve not providing refunds.

Read about it here and here.

Sylvartas, (edited )

Epic doesn’t make nearly as much money from Fortnite’s players as steam makes from their users though. Same for UE royalties. I don’t think there’s a single UE license that has a 30% rev share (which is what you get on steam if you don’t have big AAA sales). Hell, I don’t even think there’s one at 10%.

Steam doesn’t have anti competitive behavior yet. Gabe has made some bad decisions in the past (may I remind you that he greenlit Bethesda’s paid mods idea ?) but he does seem to generally put the users first. But what happens after him ? Imo the company will go public at some point, and it’s pretty much downhill from here

SplashJackson,

Gabe had a say in greenlighting horse armour? What?

Sylvartas, (edited )

Horse armor was a dlc, not a mod (well, there were also joke mods), and it was for oblivion. They tested the paid mods on Skyrim back in 2015 (Bethesda is apparently having another try right now, although it looks like valve is out of the picture this time). Officially implemented on the steam workshop and all, and obviously valve was supposed to get a cut out of every sale which is probably why they were A-OK with it

SuperSpruce,

Steam somehow prevents publishers from selling games at a cheaper price in competitors’ stores, even if their cut from the store is lower. That is extremely anti-competitive and has to be illegal.

Sylvartas,

True. I forgot about that in my comment actually. I think they calmed down on that because it was basically illegal in a lot of countries though.

asret,

If you sign up to use Steam to distribute your game then one of the things you agree to is to make it available on Steam at the same price you offer anywhere else. This protects Steam’s business and ensures that Steam customers aren’t disadvantaged.

However, it also applies even if the alternative channels don’t make use of Steam directly (e.g selling on Epic). This is where the Wolfire Games lawsuit comes in. Will be interesting to see how it goes.

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