bin.pol.social

rozodru, do games w The UK Stop Killing Games petition has reached 100.000 signatures

What’s funny about this whole thing is it’s almost like PirateSoftwares days in EVE Online when he invited everyone to Pochven space cause he thought he was hot shit and then proceeded to get his ass handed to him and he rage quit the game. He brought attention to something that ended up having the opposite effect of what he wanted.

Granted he was absolutely shit at EVE regardless of what he’s told his audience. couldn’t fit a ship to save his life, ran for CSM and no one voted for him, then rage quit when everyone and even his own corp proceeded to kick his teeth in.

P1nkman,

Is there a clip of this somewhere?

sp3ctr4l,

Wow, I hadn’t even heard of that particular story of Thor being an egotistical asshat.

I’d been looking into the WoW debacle, then stumbled into other stuff, but nope, that one’s new to me.

dustyData, (edited )

The worst part is that this are far from the only two events. He has been kicked from several other guilds, for exactly the same narcissistic and egoistic behavior. If everywhere you go it smells like shit, at some point you have to start checking your own shoes. He is just always adamant that it’s other people’s fault that it smells like shit, when he has full diaper.

sp3ctr4l,

Yep.

There’s the whole… apparently when Thor was essentially high school to post high school age, he managed to cajole a younger SecondLife user, who was actually decently talented at creating like clothes and custom player models…

So in SecondLife, you can actually make real money that way, you can cash out the SecondLife currency for actual realworld money.

Yeah SecondLife was actually quite a pioneer in a lot of ways, from a technical and just ‘what even is a video game’ standpoint, lets say uh ‘eccentric’ community and reputation aside.

And Thor basically convinced this other SL user, who was like 5 years younger than him… that he could make them both more money as a sort of salesman, promoter, of this other persons user made content… if they profit share.

I may have some details wrong here, but basically… Thor did basically nothing in terms of promotion, yet he made a significant chunk of change off of this other person.

Because … SL just has basically a universal market you can list things in.

Like uh, Escape from Tarkov, or FF14’s auction house or what not, fully built into the game… but even more so as it actually allows you to cash out to real world money.

its not like you’d have to do some kind of technical wizardry to enable sales, its not like Thor whipped up some kind of gray/black market system / payment processor way back when PayPal was still a fairly new idea.

Alongside that, there were allegations of basically ERP going waaay too far.

Now, this other person has I think entirely denied any kind of ERP abuse, sexual or just normal relationship abuse, says everything was fine…

But a good number of people seem to think that the essentially digital labor theft Thor did, basically amounts to its own kind of grooming, exploitation.

seralth,

deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • sp3ctr4l,

    … As best I can tell…

    He actually, legally changed his first name to Thor.

    And he has gone by Thor for… at least 5 years?.. in his Twitch streaming career.

    I fully agree this is an insult to the old Gods, but … Thor is apparently literally his actual name.

    His older username / online handle was ‘Maldavius Figtree’ or something like that, can’t say I am aware of his actual birth name.

    intrapt, (edited )

    I was in his corp (my old one merged with his, I had no idea who he was for quite a while), and this… isn’t exactly accurate. First, from what I remember, he left on okay terms with the corp.

    There was a laundry list of issues with Pochven, a lot of them due to CCP just not bothering to fix issues that the players reported, and moving devs who did want to try and fix some of the issues to different areas of the game. It got to the point where it wasn’t economically viable to live in the area, which reduced how many ships we could field, and the number of people even willing to join.

    CCP also took forever to decide on how wormholes interacted with the region, and changed those interactions frequently. Some of these were great, for instance there was a point where most of the wormholes linked to wormhole systems, and it was a complicated (and dangerous) dance to get people in and out of the region undetected. CCP ended up going with the worst possible interaction: many wormholes directly linked to nullsec space, where massive alliances could easily find them and send massive fleets through with little effort.

    He wasn’t the only one to quit, to be honest I’m surprised he stayed for as long as he did given how he acts now.

    Is Thor an egotistical narcissist? Absolutely. Was this a case of that? Not really

    By the way, this is a statement he put out alongside the other two main groups in Pochven. I can tell you for a fact that 90+% of the players who spent most of their time in Pochven felt this move was absolutely justified*: https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/613c3cb2-3874-4a20-9c46-dc1ffb290c41.jpeg

    Edit* And the other ~10% disagreed with the destruction of the citadels, not the sentiment of the statement

    sp3ctr4l,

    Well hey, I very much appreciate more info from someone who was actually there!

    tetris11,
    @tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

    I dont get it, what’s this got to do with the petition?

    whatsisface,

    PirateSoftware was critical of the initiative when it first started. Some people attribute its initial lack of success to his opposition.

    He was later involved in some drama and his reputation fell, and the petition’s creator finally addressed his claims. Now the petition is having a second wind in its final hour

    Jax,

    The Streisand Effect

    Joelk111,

    He wasn’t just critical of it, he spread misinformation about it. It was wild to watch someone be so completely and utterly wrong, then double and triple and quadruple down on it.

    renrenPDX,

    He was against it, which resulted in a lot of negative opinions about the bill and netting less votes because of it. It’s gone full Streisand effect.

    Zonetrooper,
    @Zonetrooper@lemmy.world avatar

    Haha, holy shit. Somehow I had never connected that Piratesoftware was Maldavius. Yeah, that explains so, so very much of this entire SKG debacle.

    slaacaa, do games w What's going on with Borderlands 2? Steam is giving it for free, but the game has 23% positive recent reviews.
    ampersandrew, do games w Should we boycott games with loot boxes?
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    You should not put your time or money into anything doing something that you don’t like in the marketplace, because that’s the only way it changes.

    gandolfini_the_grey,

    This is a very smart and thoughtful perspective. One should consider their time and money as valuable, and not put it in games they disagree with. Do you have any good alternatives to recommend for the most popular Valve FPSs?

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    You might not like my answer, but I haven’t really played new FPS games in years, because basically none of them are doing what I want. I’m well served in basically every other genre right now, but these things are cyclical. We’re just getting through the era of indie FPS games inspired by Doom/Quake and other more maze-like shooters, and we may soon be entering the era where FPS games are inspired by my favorites. My multiplayer these days is usually fighting games, and the only ones that will give you trouble on Linux are Dragon Ball FighterZ and the upcoming 2XKO, both due to anti cheat.

    As an aside, I’ll also say that where you put your time shouldn’t matter, if the product is free, for instance, but it does matter in online video games. Your presence in matchmaking is adding value for someone else who might spend money in the game, so you’d still be helping the causes of CS2 and TF2 just by playing on the official servers. For TF2, I think the code just went open source and there’s a revitalization project to bring it back to what it was like at launch? If so, that might be pre-loot-box, and playing that version of the game would help send the message you want to send. The same might apply to old versions of Counter-Strike.

    gandolfini_the_grey,

    That’s a fine answer, thanks!

    Chesckers,

    I myself am against fomo. So we are sort of similar a little bit at least. We both dislike dark patterns.

    I second that fighting games are mostly a mecca for us. I recommend Guilty Gear Strive, basically the only complaints people have about it nowadays is that it and it’s lobbies can load kind of slow, and some subjectively don’t like the gameplay, but that is up to you to decide (personally I love it’s gameplay). The new Virtua Fighter also looks incredible, maybe when it releases it will suit you well.

    I also agree that tf2 classic looks great. It’s like the tf2 we grew to love but without the bullshit. When it releases on steam hopefully it gains traction.

    Other games that are extremely pro consumer that I enjoy are Due Process and Straftat.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    Even when deep discounted to a dollar, I have a hard time calling Due Process pro consumer when it doesn’t let you host the server yourself.

    Gradually_Adjusting,
    @Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

    I haven’t been into FPS for several years, but if I was going to play anything current, I’d give The Forever Winter a look. It’s still being worked on, but the early access gameplay is really cool looking, and it’s bringing a lot of ideas to the table creatively.

    Taco2112,

    I like a FPS but I have the most fun with the PVE sub genre of FPS. Left 4 Dead 2 and Deep Rock Galactic being my two favorites. Playing against other humans can be annoying if the skill balance isn’t right and if they’re cheating then it makes it no fun, imo.

    simple, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

    Most people won’t budge. It doesn’t matter if Win10 is unsupported or isn’t getting a security update, I reckon a solid 40 of 43% will just stay on it until programs they use stop working.

    justsquigglez,
    @justsquigglez@lemm.ee avatar

    Basically my plan until I can scrounge enough money up for a new computer. My current one literally won’t let me upgrade due to some component/driver it lacks.

    tyler,

    You can pay to keep getting windows security updates and prolong the upgrade even further.

    wreckedcarzz,
    @wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

    “you can pay us, and we won’t break your legs for a while longer” -ms

    W10 IoT is a thing, and will get updates for a few more years, no mafia shakedown required.

    Cethin,

    It’ll let you upgrade to Linux. It doesn’t play those stupid games with you like MS does.

    KazuyaDarklight,
    @KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world avatar

    For some of the hardware requirements, there are edits you can make to get it to install, but you do have to also force it every time there is a major release, minor updates go through fine.

    beastlykings,

    Definitely you should look into Linux, it’s really gotten quite good. Especially if you don’t need games with anti cheat.

    But if you just want to use Windows 11, it’s super duper easy. Just Google “download Windows 11 iso” and grab the iso file from Microsoft website.

    Then download Rufus.

    Then pop in a thumb drive that’s at least 8gb. Open Rufus, select your thumb drive and the iso, then choose the option to remove windows requirements, then click start.

    Backup your files on Windows 10, save them somewhere. Then pop in the thumb drive and install windows 11 fresh.

    The requirements aren’t actually required. Win 11 runs fine on all sorts of hardware. Support stops at 8th Gen Intel, but I’ve installed it on 5th Gen. My work laptop is 2nd or 3rd Gen. It’s fine 🤷‍♂️

    Technically less secure? Yeah, in some ways. But it’s miles ahead of running unpatched windows 10 after September.

    justsquigglez,
    @justsquigglez@lemm.ee avatar

    Oh shit this is actually really helpful, I might end up doing the Rufus USB route when I get my stuff back up and running (apartment flooded and I have to wait until the finish fixing my ceiling before I can plug everything back up.)

    Thanks for the in-depth info!

    murd0x,

    What comes after fresh install? Massgrave ?

    venotic,
    @venotic@kbin.melroy.org avatar

    I predict Valve will stop supporting Windows 10 in probably another 3 - 4 years at most.

    Zoomboingding,
    @Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah I’m just going to stick on Win 10 for a while. Apparently the enterprise version is getting support for longer so maybe I’ll see if I can get on that.

    emb,

    Yep, I feel like people overestimate how much anyone cares about official support or security patches or whatever. People will assume it’s fine until they’re either forced out or something goes horribly wrong.

    Regular folks will most likely let it be if possible, until it’s time for a new PC anyway.

    zipzoopaboop,

    Like the climate

    blandfordforever,

    My brother in law was still using windows 7 and it had never occurred to him that this might be a security risk. Normal people don’t care.

    brightandshinyobject,

    Windows 10 ltsc massgrave.dev

    GoodLuckToFriends,

    Yep. I’m embarrassed to admit it, but valve dropping support for windows 7 was what made me switch to linux. Until the computer stops working for the average user, they won’t change.

    Merwyn, (edited ) do games w What games had easy soft locks that prevented you from either progressing or getting a true ending?

    Tes 3: Morrowind, every NPCs can be killed and of course if you kill some of them before they got usefull to progress the main quest you are locked.

    At their death there is a notification message like “you fucked up, you can reload or continue to play in this world forever doomed”. BUT, in my first playthrough some broken mod I installed was hiding this message …

    Also, in the same game you could lose quest item and be unable to finish the main quest. But that kind of require you to be stupid on purpose, because it’s obvious what item are important.

    EDIT: found the in game message: " With this character’s death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created."

    MyDearWatson616,

    I think that’s the best way to handle it. Let me kill whoever I want as long as I know the consequences.

    Steeve, (edited )

    First time I played I had to load a save back in Seyda Neen because I killed some poor half naked dude in his shack in Balmora. Fuckin Caius Cosades.

    LordCirais,

    😰 You killed Daddy Caius

    Gooey0210,

    Isn’t it like the first quest you get? 🫠

    Steeve,

    Hey man, Morrowind quests don’t hold your hand! It’s not like there’s a minimap and some big ass marker over his head saying “don’t kill and rob this half naked dude who looks like a skooma addict in his tiny studio apartment because he’s secretly the spy master for the main faction in the game”! I was young! I chose violence!

    Gooey0210,

    I would even check whether he even speaks to you first 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠

    TimewornTraveler,

    What kind of monster uses mods on a first playthru

    Merwyn,

    It was some small QoL changes in the UI and menus, recommended by my friend who recommended me the game. I don’t remember exactly the changes but there was nothing big added or changed in the gameplay

    JokeDeity,

    Me, more and more these days. Especially if the game has been out for a while.

    JJROKCZ,

    If the game is made by Bethesda then it’s warranted. They’ve never been capable of making an acceptable ui it seems

    abraxas,

    Good news. You can still beat the game if the “thread of prophecy is severed”, but it is fairly challenging and generally requires stumble-luck or at LEAST knowledge of how to normally beat the game. It helps to know the identity of another character you have to kill in cold blood to get “almost back on track”. And then the location that serves no real purpose except to get back on track from that situation.

    Merwyn, (edited )

    Yes indeed, I know what you are talking about. But I would not really consider that the “normal” ending as described by OP. Even if the ending scene itself is exactly the same, it’s a very different path and clearly a much harder one.

    abraxas,

    Well… Yes. Not saying it doesn’t fit the topic. Just a really cool way they handled it all.

    Merwyn,

    Sure ! And I discovered that only years later by reading a wiki page. But actually it make sense that it’s also feasible this way.

    Gooey0210, (edited )

    Marvelous morrowind I should’ve put some “morrowind joke” but I don’t remember any

    luciole, do gaming w Does anyone know of any kid-friendly "horror" games out there for children ~7 years old?
    @luciole@beehaw.org avatar

    OK hear me out: Minecraft in survival. For real. Nothing jump scares like a creeper going “psshht” in your back, telegraphing that you’re about to die in a destructive explosion. As you walk a narrow path over a chasm of lava in the Nether, the wail of the Ghast might make you fall out of sheer panic before it even shoots at you. The Warden is a special kind of scary too, as it’s nearly unkillable and will detect you by the noise you make. It sounds kind of silly but there’s plenty of players making the remark that Minecraft survival is basically horror.

    And it’s all in a child friendly, non gory, voxel style.

    tias,

    Yeah that shit scared me when I played it at 40 years old. It kind of wears you down when you walk around in dark caves for hours on end.

    Another alternative might be Subnautica. It has some jump scares but mostly it’s just the Deep Unknown that gives you chills. Few things in that game are actually dangerous.

    BubblyMango,

    +1 for minecraft.

    You can try mineclone2 if you dont wanna pay.

    nunchuk,
    @nunchuk@lemmy.bigsecretwebsite.net avatar

    +1 to this, when I was like 11-12 playing Minecraft, it took me a solid year or so to overcome my fear of going into caves.

    sincle354,

    Aw man, preparing for the nether and writing down my coordinates, terrified of ghasts and facing blazes for as long as I could stand it. I still prepare for any excursion from my base like a packrat.

    Abnorc,

    While we’re at it with non-horror games: the level that introduced the flood in Halo CE really gave me a scare. I don’t know what it says about me, but I invited a friend over to play that level with me, lol. It’s a bit of a reach not being a horror game, but a great game with some tension here and there.

    Kaldo, do piracy w [PIRACY NEWS]Team MKDEV retires after releasing FIFA 23 as their final crack(Denuvo Crack). They also posted some stuff about cracking Denuvo on their discord that I am sharing below.
    @Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

    Seems like gaming piracy is really dying this time for sure. Most sites are compromised and untrustworthy, big teams are retiring, the one remaining denuvo cracker that i heard of is apparently psychotic... It doesn't seem like it bodes well

    DivisionResult,

    Sometimes , things have to go down to go up.Justo wait, its like a roller coaster.

    Kaldo,
    @Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

    Looking at the world rn, I dont think things have a tendency to get better on their own. In a decade or two people won't even believe we lived in the wild west era of internet where you could just get stuff for free without a subscription, online connection or drm.

    lichtmetzger,
    @lichtmetzger@feddit.de avatar

    When people run out of money to pay for a billion subscriptions, companies will have to think hard about their business model. I don’t think the current trend can last forever.

    Look at the fragmentation of streaming services. Piracy is on the rise again because of it.

    Kaldo,
    @Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

    That's why I said gaming piracy before, I don't think denuvo can protect media files (yet) and those are less likely to be malware or cryptominers anyway. So I think that aspect is safe for now at least, but rip gaming.

    Auli,

    Sure on the rise maybe in this small circle but it has declined alot from its peak.

    DudePluto,

    Looking at the world rn, I dont think things have a tendency to get better on their own

    This is called a recency bias (I think lol) - you’re looking at the world rn and assuming its trends must continue. When you look at history you see that there are ebbs and flows, and that stasis is rare. If you focus on certain things, you may certainly decide we’re in a downtrend. There will always be an uptrend afterward. And vice versa

    Kaldo,
    @Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

    That's way too big of a generalization. The fact is that technology advances and makes other technology obsolete, and the pirates are dwindling while DRM companies are getting more and more money to fix the issue. It is not going to just magically reverse at one point. If anything the people are just going to get more accustomed to it like they have already with copyright laws, subscription services and simply not owning anything digital anymore.

    The second thing you're not addressing is how long the "ebb and flow" takes anyway, if gaming piracy has a resurgence in 50 years then I don't think I'm gonna care much about it by then lol. Blizzard games aren't getting cracked anymore and by the time they do, if ever, I'm not going to care about them.

    DudePluto, (edited )

    The fact is that technology advances and makes other technology obsolete,

    Yeah, it happens on both sides, it’s an arms race. It will swing the other way eventually - it always has and always will

    The second thing you’re not addressing is how long the “ebb and flow” takes anyway

    That was intentional. There’s no estimating a timeline, but with the development of technology it’s not unreasonable to expect a reversal even in a decade. Anyway, if you’re trying to ward off doomerism you’re not going to do it by only looking at what you stand to gain

    argv_minus_one,

    Are Blizzard games worth cracking any more?

    Kaldo,
    @Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

    Precisely the reason they'd be worth cracking I'd say. Anyway that was just an example, same goes for many EA / Ubi games for which it's just a matter of time before are perma-online or under denuvo.

    gjghkk,

    Playing cracked games helps spread the popularity of said game.

    Send_me_nude_girls,
    @Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de avatar

    Plus Nintendo Switch has Denuvo too now, creating even bigger demand.

    whodoctor11, (edited )

    Isn’t just piracy that’s dying, in my opinion, it’s gaming itself, or, at least, gaming as it used to be.

    Besides Denuvo being a technology so bad that actually makes the original game worst than a copy without it, everyday comes with tons and tons of games with a pay-to-win approach or some kind of PBE. The only new, original and fun games nowadays are the indies, and it will be that way for a long time, as the industry seems to focus more and more in the mobile market since it’s already bigger than the PC and console together.

    Auli,

    Gaming is definitely not dying it is a huge market. I don’t agree with the direction it’s heading though. But there are enough games released to keep my interest.

    whodoctor11,

    Gaming is definitely not dying it is a huge market.

    Because of it I said “gaming as it used to be.”

    gjghkk,

    I think people are less excited for new games than it used to be.

    snowbell, (edited )
    @snowbell@beehaw.org avatar

    I expect all games to be bad by default now and don’t let myself get hyped up at all anymore. I waited on the edge of my seat since before the first teasers for CP2077 and still haven’t bothered to play it. I backed Star Citizen in 2013 lol… Was disappointed by Fallout 4 and 76 too, as a huge Fallout fan. I don’t remember the last game that legitimately lived up to my hopes and expectations. Fallout New Vegas I guess.

    argv_minus_one,

    I loved Fallout 4…once there were enough mods to fix everything that’s wrong with the vanilla game.

    Which is par for the course with Bethesda. 🤷‍♂️

    snowbell, (edited )
    @snowbell@beehaw.org avatar

    Yeah, I played it on release. Been trying it again lately with mods and it seems much more polished. The writing quality is still a pretty big disappointment, and the yes/yes/yes/no chat system.

    argv_minus_one,

    Sadly, mods can and do remove the horrid dialog wheel thing, but they can’t add more interesting dialog options.

    Cethin,

    For sure, indies are where it’s at. Most of my time gaming has been on indies for many years now. They are actually willing to do interesting things instead of chasing trends and money.

    Occasionally you get large studios doing things like Baldur’s Gate 3, but it’s rare. Larian and FromSoft are about the only studios I trust to make good experiences that aren’t designed by the business team to make as much money as possible.

    mark7869,
    @mark7869@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Nooo I can’t live without piracy

    RobMyBot, do gaming w What game mechanics do you love and hate?

    Escort quests! Especially when the person you’re escorting moves incredibly slow (except when running toward obvious danger).

    whysofurious,
    @whysofurious@beehaw.org avatar

    I agree that is clearly broken and overused in many games but if we were able to actually control the walking speed on PC with a keyboard similar to what is possible with a controller, it would probably be more bearable tbh.

    flamingos, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

    Fallout 3. The criticism is absolutely fair*, but it was the first RPG I ever played and I’m still very fond of it.

    • I never got the ‘metros are hard to navigate’ criticism, I never had that issues. Most of them are pretty linear.
    LucasWaffyWaf,

    A lot of the metros look copy and pasted; whole hallways, rooms, so it gets a little confusing.

    flamingos,

    Oh for sure, Fallout 3 Geoguesser would be hard. Idk, I just never had a problem navigating them, even if they were a bit samey.

    TheHotze,

    To be fair, Fallout 3 is a bit more of a mixed bag of good and bad features.

    catalyst,
    @catalyst@lemmy.world avatar

    Guess that’s me too. I loved Fallout 3 and wasn’t really aware of a lot of hate for it.

    criss_cross,

    Fallout 3 for me works well as a sandbox and less as a narrative driven RPG. I had a lot of fun with it but I know if you went in expecting it to be something it’s not (like the first 2 fallout games) you’re gonna be disappointed.

    Omegamanthethird,
    @Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

    I loved FO3. And coming from Bethesda, I was expecting a sandbox.

    Actually, do people hate FO3? I thought it was well liked, even amongst New Vegas fanatics.

    Paranomaly,
    @Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works avatar

    It got a lot of backwards hate when 76 came out and it was suddenly really trendy to hate Bethesda. This is not to say that lots of people changed their mind on the game, though I’m sure some did, more that people who didn’t like the game got more confident to speak up about disliking it. This is also around the same time the New Vegas became a huge darling in popular opinion.

    sp3ctr4l,

    So, I’m an ardent ‘New Vegas is the best 3D Fallout game’ person.

    But… Fallout 3 is not a bad game.

    It is fun, it is enjoyable. It has solid game mechanics, it has a good number of well written characters and questlines, it is fun to just explore and find crazy shit.

    It has flaws, yes.

    But it is far from bad.

    It just isn’t as good as New Vegas, which imo, basically just did everything FO3 did, but better, had a better overall storyline, refined and improved on all the gameplay mechanics, added in new gameplay features/elements.

    BigBananaDealer,
    @BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

    i dont think new vegas had better exploration. fo3 is still pretty unmatched in that. so many unmarked gems in fo3

    CileTheSane,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    It also had some big gameplay departures from 1 & 2. I’m not talking about being an FPS (although no longer having to worry about accuracy was pretty significant) but the fact that putting on different clothing magically made you more intelligent, and that it was a lot easier to do everything.
    In FO3 you can pick all the locks, hack all the computers, pass all the conversation checks, and take on hordes of enemies all by yourself. In FO1+2 you had to pick the couple of things you were good at and not be able to do the other things until your next run.

    Zidane,

    FO3 is my favorite Fallout (haven’t played 4 or 76 yet).

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    Have you played 1, 2, or New Vegas?

    Zidane,

    1 & 2 I played a little bit. NV I 100% on steam a couple years ago and 360 many years ago. I did actually play 4 for about an hour. Was annoyed with how things had changed lol

    ivanafterall,
    @ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

    I lived in D.C. when I played it. Between that and it being the first of its kind in the series, none of the others come remotely close for me.

    Paranomaly,
    @Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Not going to lie, I like it quite a bit more than New Vegas. I understand several criticisms that people have, but 3 was by far the better experience for me.

    Ibuthyr,

    Same here. NV was pretty boring to me while FO3 was actually fun.

    ProdigalFrog, (edited ) do games w Suggestions? Games that won't make me feel alone?

    Perhaps RPG’s with a party, like Mass Effect, Baldurs Gate 3, Fallout New Vegas (many companions with their own stories to find and tag along), Star Wars: knights of the old republic, dragon age.

    Some shooters like the later Band of Brothers games, valkyria chronicles or the Mafia series you may enjoy as well.

    In Indiana Jones and The Fate of Atlantis, there are multiple paths to choose to complete the game, and one option is to choose a fun companion come with you to help you throughout.

    SnotFlickerman,

    Perhaps RPG’s with a party

    Going more old school, Chrono Trigger is another great one with awesome supporting party characters.

    Kadaj21,

    Final Fantasy VI!

    flicker,

    You’ll definitely experience anxiety though.

    Or maybe deep dread.

    acosmichippo,
    @acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

    Since OP likes open world games, in the later Bethesda RPGs like Skyrim and Fallout 4 you can have companions. not the same level of interaction as Bioware-like parties, but it’s something.

    also not really an open world game, but in Midnight Suns you’re a mystical hero in a party with some of the avengers, other marvel heroes, and even some villains. there’s a lot of personal interactions with all the members between missions.

    Commiunism, do gaming w Higher difficulties in every single RPG.

    The problem with difficulties is that it’s much more difficult to design an AI system which you can tweak and make it smarter or dumber as opposed to just increasing damage and health values, so devs will just implement the best AI they can and leave difficulties as afterthought.

    After playing a lot of games that don’t even have difficulty settings, I’ve started to believe in the idea that difficulty selection is just outdated game design and that having a single difficulty but optional areas/content that is more difficult is the way to do it. OSRS is one of my favorite examples - everyone plays the same game and going through levelling or whatever isn’t mechanically demanding. However, there are bosses and challenges (like Theatre of Blood which is an end-game raid or Inferno which is an end-game challenge) that are incredibly challenging and require weeks if not months of attempts to master and finally beat, but also are perfectly skippable and most casual players don’t even bother with them.

    teft,
    @teft@lemmy.world avatar

    I’d like more games to be like FromSoft games. The difficulty is adjusted by what gear you have and what spells you use. None of that turning bosses into bullet sponges nonsense.

    Snowclone,

    Yeah, Sekiro has a pretty adaptive way of making the game harder, if you start a replay and get rid of the charm item, you can’t almost parry, it has to be precise, and if you ring the demon bell everything gets higher life and damage, but drops much better loot.

    IsThisAnAI,

    Just going to ignore the hundreds of levels most players need to accumulate?

    Sekiro was the only one that actually respected players time. Players bitched endlessly it was too hard.

    If fromsoft actually gave a shit they’d add in adjustable parry windows and iframes and that works cover 90% of the people who weren’t good enough from sekiro. They won’t because they love to be gatekeepers.

    teft,
    @teft@lemmy.world avatar

    Leveling is a normal thing in any game. You level up in most games.

    Also you don’t need to level up in most FromSoft games. The bosses usually have a gimmick or movement patterns that are easy to learn.

    Sounds like you just suck at the games. No shame in that but don’t say something is harder than it is.

    IsThisAnAI,

    I’ve beaten every day since 2 in addition to sekiro, the actual hard game. We’re talking about easing the game for the average population. So yeah if you are in the top .5% of players fromsoft gives a fuck about your time.

    For everyone else your talking somewhere between 50 and 200. I mean for fucks sake for years the advice for hitting a wall in DS was explore and come back at a higher level.

    Modern world of Warcraft has less leveling these days 🤦‍♂️

    HeurtisticAlgorithm9,

    Yeah, but the point is that you aren’t just grinding levels. You literally said it yourself, you go explore a different area, you play more of the game (not just grind the same part of the game)

    teft,
    @teft@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean for fucks sake for years the advice for hitting a wall in DS was explore and come back at a higher level.

    Kind of like when you’re lower level in other games and have to level up to beat the boss? Do level 1 gnomes go straight to killing The Lich King in world of warcraft?

    tomalley8342,

    A lot of people say this and I don’t get it. What would be lost by having each playstyle be balanced properly and then adding difficulty scaling on top of that?

    Snowclone,

    Because that’s incredibly difficult.

    Shou,

    Larian had to dumb the AI down to make normal mode for dos2.

    scops,

    That’s not at all surprising. PvE game design is almost always about making the computer less competent in fun and/or believable ways. If you’ve got a computer that can simulate every item and skill in an enemy team’s arsenal and game out the best combination in milliseconds, the player is going to be dead by Turn 1 or stun-locked and dead by Turn 2.

    Corr,

    I’ve been immensely impressed with DOS2 AI. If an enemy is sleeping, another enemy will use part of its turn to hit the enemy to wake it up. There were several instances where I paused and just stared awestruck

    Shou,

    AI will also save up abilities with side effects until armor or magic resistance has been depleted. Such as knockdown on a battering ram ability.

    Corr,

    Idk if I noticed that explicitly but I would believe it. The grenade throws early game are also disgusting. Pixel perfect hit your whole team lol

    where_am_i,

    Aggressiveness and pathing are trivial.

    thedirtyknapkin,

    but there’s so many other ways to change difficulty.

    change number of enemies and where they spawn change gear and abilities, the Witcher did that one with how the stamina system worked. it didn’t drain on the lower difficulties. horizon zero dawn made everything in the shops more expensive and made the enemies drop less money. honestly, that one also sucked. only served to make the game grindier.

    point is, there’s other options.

    GraniteM,

    I had fun with Zero Dawn but came out with a list of minor improvements that would make the game significantly better. Forbidden West had almost all the same problems, and added several more besides. The game really started to lose me when I was trying to upgrade a particular piece of equipment and just had to keep doing laps up and down a goddamn mountain with no nearby quick travel location, hoping that an elite version of an enemy would spawn, then laboriously killing it in the hopes that a particular resource would drop, only to get disappointed by the RNG and have to repeat the process, because that was the only place where that resource could be got, and that was the only place where that enemy would spawn.

    The grind was appalling, and it took what was a moderately interesting fight the first couple of times and turned it into a monotonous chore.

    Also the upgrade barely turned out to be worth the effort.

    I finished the game more out of spite than anything else, and I did not purchase the DLC, nor do I have any plans of getting any sequels. Damn shame, because there’s an awful lot about both games to like.

    OsrsNeedsF2P, do games w RuneScape is increasing their membership price by 50%, and Reddit is trying to censor it

    Shout out to the open source Runescape remakes

    rsc.vet - 2003 era remake

    2009scape.org - 2009 era remake

    darkan.org - 2012 era remake

    There are other open source remakes (2004, 2006) but they’re not as popular. I’ve actually contributed upstream to all 3 of the above, it’s a very nice community!

    AlolanYoda,

    Oh no a massive time sink

    (thanks! I have a lot of nostalgia for Runescape but don’t want to waste months of my life, so I’m considering getting a single player server up and running with a like 10x exp multiplier. Now to decide on 2003, 2009 or 2012…)

    PugJesus,

    I downloaded a single-player server a while ago, 20x XP let me actually experience the damn game, lmao. It was neat, getting to see what I only got glimpses of as a child.

    Valmond,

    Thanks!

    I played it a looong time ago, mined a lot lol.

    Tried it later and it was more 3D-ish and I didn’t like that very much.

    Any idea which one I should try out?

    Cheers!

    OsrsNeedsF2P,

    I would say play whichever era you played in the past :P. If you played RuneScape classic, OpenRSC (the 2003 remake) is the best, otherwise 2009scape is a good shout. You could also check out 2004scape.org, their beta starts soon

    xelar,

    vidyascape.org also anon client

    OsrsNeedsF2P,

    Vidyascape is the best real 07 remake, but is it open source?

    xelar,

    I just found an quite old repo github.com/Terremer/VidyaScapeand issue tracker with website code on gitlab.com/vscape

    It seems the source is closed, but you can ask on irc.rizon.net OR odelvidyascape@gmail.com.

    Dark_Arc,
    @Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

    Those things normally get shutdown for copyright related claims though, no?

    OsrsNeedsF2P,

    Historically, only for-profit ones have been shutdown

    Dark_Arc,
    @Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

    Good to know!

    AceFuzzLord, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

    Whenever a large games company talks about “developer choice” you know they’re referring to one of a few things:

    1. Think of the shareholders!
    2. Think of the rich CEO who adds zero value to the company!
    3. The people don’t know what they want and therefore we need to tell them exactly what they want and need!
    oji, do games w Yep, I actually own 7,255 games on Steam. I’ve played 23% of my library. I regret nothing.

    I actually own

    The funny thing is, you don’t own them.

    atomicpoet,

    Say what you will, every game I’ve bought—I can still play. And I’ve been buying Steam games for over a decade.

    Meanwhile, none of my GameCube discs work on my Switch.

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    You can still play it but increasingly games are becoming very different from what you bought.

    I’ve started noticing a disturbing trend. More and more games that are older being sold at steep discounts or “free to play” and simultaneously jampacked with invasive telemetry and/or ads/microtransactions. And since Steam won’t let you play older versions, those games are effectively dead.

    atomicpoet,

    Out of the thousands of games I have, not once have I noticed anything like you describe.

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    Oh well if you haven’t experienced it, it must not exist then 🤷

    atomicpoet,

    I mean, if it’s a trend, you’d think I would have noticed it by now.

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    And I suppose my experience doesn’t count? Or you think I’m making this up?

    atomicpoet,

    I don’t know, you haven’t pointed out multiple examples.

    Hadriscus,

    hmmm that doesn’t ring a bell here either. Which games do this ?

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    The most recent ones I’ve noticed are Riders Republic and Borderlands 2. Helldivers also introduced a bunch of new microtransactions years after it’s launch.

    Dyskolos,

    And what there is steam’s doing? Borderland’s a greedy IP from a greedy company. What do you expect?

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    And since Steam won’t let you play older versions, those games are effectively dead.

    Dyskolos,

    So it’s the fault of the delivery-device? Why didn’t you make a backup of an older version just in case? Besides, last time I checked, you can. With a bit more hassle. All not the case for a “live” online-game. Which borderlands wants to be.

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    So it’s the fault of the delivery-device?

    …yeah? Of course it is.

    Why didn’t you make a backup of an older version just in case?

    I pay Steam to do that.

    Besides, last time I checked, you can. With a bit more hassle.

    Not interested.

    All not the case for a “live” online-game. Which borderlands wants to be.

    That’s exactly the problem.

    Dyskolos,

    If BL is “exactly the problem”. And GOG does it better. Why is it still steam’s fault? Use GOG then? Where is it the delivery-device’s fault? As BL2 offers online-coop, and is also the major selling point of that game, a fragmented market is impossible.

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    Why would you think another company doing it better makes Valve not responsible? I don’t understand the logic.

    As BL2 offers online-coop, and is also the major selling point of that game, a fragmented market is impossible.

    …no? It’s not. You don’t have to play it online.

    Dyskolos,

    It doesn’t matter if you prefer offline or not or that you CAN play solo, it is online coop. I never played it coop either, but that’s what it is and hence everyone has to have the same version. Simple as that.

    Point with gog was that they do it better. Vastly so. Yet only a tiny fraction of devs choose them. Hence it begs the question whether it’s the platform’s fault per se.

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    It doesn’t matter if you prefer offline or not or that you CAN play solo, it is online coop.

    Of course it does?

    Hence it begs the question whether it’s the platform’s fault per se.

    There is no question. GOG is proof that you can do it. Therefore if others don’t do it, it’s their fault.

    Once again, all of this is beside the point. The point is that those games are effectively gone.

    Dyskolos,

    It only matters in the sense that you’re allowed to not purchase online games.

    Otherwise we’re circling here.

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    It only matters in the sense that you’re allowed to not purchase online games.

    Virtually every game in existence has some sort of online element. But what you seem to be unable to grasp is that many of them have single player modes that don’t require any internet connection.

    It’s as simple has having a server that checks the version of the game installed before allowing access to online services.

    Dyskolos,

    Oh wow, thanks for making me understand games and how software works. If only I knew earlier…

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    No problem 👍

    Hadriscus,

    I have to say I never played those. Do these microtransactions lock content that was previously available out of the box?

    Dyskolos,

    That is what firewalls and sinkholes are for. Stupid telemetry.

    Yet I never noticed such a “trend” in direct combination with steam. The whole industry goes to shit, but it’s not steam’s fault.

    Ulrich, (edited )
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    That is what firewalls and sinkholes are for. Stupid telemetry.

    That shouldn’t be necessary and is beside the point.

    The whole industry goes to shit, but it’s not steam’s fault.

    1. Steam has the clout to fight back against this
    2. As I already mentioned, it is partially because they don’t allow you to run older versions of games.
    skulblaka,
    @skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

    […] because they don’t allow you to run older versions of games.

    They do if the dev makes it available, I’m looking at four different versions of Terraria in the beta menu right now that stretch back four major versions. I’m pretty sure a couple games in my library somewhere have their entire update history in there, though I can’t think of one to name off the top of my head right now, that’s not a feature I use very often. [Edit: Rift Wizard is one that does precisely this, I knew I had at least one in here]

    This is not true of all games, but it could be, either directly by game devs without Valve even having to care, or via pressure by Valve by just making older versions available whether the devs want it or not. I think the latter option is probably the better move, but there’s technically nothing stopping the former other than the game devs themselves.

    There’s also a valid argument that making downpatching very easy would be a huge boon to piracy. This is a reasonable talking point no matter which side of that fence you sit on. It would also probably benefit modding as well, which I think is a more objective good but some game developers or more likely publishers would probably disagree.

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    They do if the dev makes it available

    That shouldn’t be their decision.

    I’m looking at four different versions of Terraria

    Literally never seen that before. I think I see if the dev pushing their 4th update that day and now I have to wait a half an hour to play the damn game.

    downpatching very easy would be a huge boon to piracy.

    Not my problem. Guess I’d better just pirate the game instead.

    Dyskolos,

    Firewalls and especially sinkholes are VERY necessary, far beyond silly game telemetry.

    They don’t allow this for a good reason. Imagine 1 million clueless gamers running an older version of their game because they’re too lazy too update. And, of course, then complain about a buggy game and the tech-support will drown even more and review would end up more badly. nothing worse than a fragmented game-world. how should online games work if every Joe and Jane got their “own” favorite version? the average user is a total clueless (pc-wise) person.

    Also, you can install an older version. Just with more hassles. Also you could by GUI with many games IF the Dev wants you to be able to. Like a select few versions, if you’d prefer an older state. But, of course, only indie devs do that.

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    Firewalls and especially sinkholes are VERY necessary

    You misread my comment. I didn’t say they weren’t necessary.

    Imagine 1 million clueless gamers running an older version of their game because they’re too lazy too update.

    1. GOG already does this and it’s not a problem.
    2. It updates automatically but you can choose to roll it back at any time.

    how should online games work if every Joe and Jane got their “own” favorite version?

    Not talking about online games. Besides, the how or why do not matter, the point is the games are gone.

    Also, you can install an older version. Just with more hassles.

    I pay Steam to deal with the hassles. I am not a software engineer.

    But, of course, only indie devs do that.

    Valve has the power to enforce this system-wide.

    Dyskolos,

    Gog does it, but Gog only offers a mere fraction of what Steam has. Also your example of BL2 is not on gog either. For that reason.

    Sure, Valve could enforce that, but…as said…why? They already offer the option for different versions. If the devs don’t use that, they will have their reasons. The biggest one i mentioned before: Fragmentation and the resulting nightmare of customer-support. On steam’s AND the dev’s side. Look at the Android or Windows-market. Someone complaining “my windows sucks”, but still uses Windows Vista. Or people screaming for support because “my favourite app doesn’t work” and use android 10.

    Don’t get me wrong, personally I’d value the freedom of choice. But the vast majority of people are clueless (and still use those devices) and need to be “guided”. Every system gets dumbed down to the lowest common denominator. That’s why apple does so well (besides the “brand”-shit ofc).

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    Gog does it, but Gog only offers a mere fraction of what Steam has.

    And that matters for the purposes of this conversation why?

    Sure, Valve could enforce that, but…as said…why?

    I explained why in my first comment. It’s why we’re talking in the first place.

    Fragmentation and the resulting nightmare of customer-support. On steam’s AND the dev’s side.

    I don’t see it. Neither of them have to support old versions.

    But the vast majority of people are clueless (and still use those devices) and need to be “guided”.

    No they don’t. If people are clueless, they don’t need to utilize this feature. It’s call an “option”.

    Dyskolos,

    Just because YOU don’t see why support on both sides hate fragmentation, doesn’t matter. They do nonetheless for very obvious reasons unless you are very alien to tech.

    And yes, people do need guidance. If they’re not forced to update, they rarely do. And then they complain shit’s not working. People don’t read manuals, FAQs, guidelines and also they don’t update unless forced to (or strooongly motivated or just nagged to death). I’ve been in this industry for nearly 4 decades now. From all sides. The average Joe or Jane is the worst.

    And yeah sure, it doesn’t matter at all for some games. You play the version you want and it’s all fine. But either you offer this option (which steam does BTW, as mentioned before) or you don’t. If you don’t, maaaany devs would be going to use another platform. Maybe fucking EPIC. That’d be grand.

    smeg,

    FYI if seems you can access older versions of Steam games, it’s just a bit hacky

    Ulrich,
    @Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

    If I want hacky, I’ll go pirate the game. I pay for them so I don’t need a computer science degree to play them.

    smeg,

    You can still play them on your GameCube or Wii though, or take copies of the discs and play them on anything that runs Dolphin

    kadup, (edited )
    @kadup@lemmy.world avatar

    While you’re not wrong, by that logic, it’s actually fairly trivial to take my Steam downloads drive and run it on any computer even without my Steam account.

    smeg,

    Does that work? I always assumed games with DRM wouldn’t work if they couldn’t authenticate to your Steam account.

    kadup,
    @kadup@lemmy.world avatar

    It works in the same way that dumping your GameCube games and running them on Dolphin works… It’s quick and easy, but it’s against the ToS and requires breaking DRM.

    Steam’s DRM is weak, and in some interviews some Valve developers even gave hints that this is on purpose. Many Steam games will simply run without Steam if you just double click the .exe in the install folder, and the vast majority that only rely on Steam’s DRM can be opened by running a free “Steam Emulator” software that pretends to be an active Steam account with a correct license.

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    A lot of Steam games don’t have any DRM, and most of the rest are pretty easy to strip.

    Give it a shot sometime. Completely quit out of Steam, turn off your internet, and try running some of your older Steam games directly from the Steam folder.

    I do this somewhat often when my kids are on my other computer playing games on my account and I still want to play something. It’s a little trickier on Linux since you need something to run the Proton/WINE layer, so I mostly stick to Linux-native games in that pretty rare case.

    skulblaka,
    @skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Family share is actually great for this now.

    It used to be that if anyone in the group was playing any game it would lock you out of playing anything else on the main account without kicking them off.

    But they eased up on it now so you can both play at the same time as long as you aren’t playing the same game at the same time.

    So just make a burner account for you or for your kids and family share the library to it and now you don’t even have to go offline unless everyone in the house wants to play BG3 simultaneously.

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    Really? I haven’t tried that since they revamped the sharing thing. I have three accounts, one for me, my wife, and one my kids share, and they’re all linked. Most of the time my kids use my account, but I can easily change that if it’ll allow simultaneous play (on different games).

    Thanks for the tip, I’ll try it out!

    Dyskolos,

    But the vast majority can be played without steam. Mostly by force coughcough but still. I know, still no legal ownership.

    sneezycat, do gaming w Got my Switch 2 early! Tears of the Kingdom is amazing on this thing :)
    @sneezycat@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Quick, delete this post! Nintendo has already dispatched two elite snipers to home in on your position and dispose of you, but maybe they’ll fall back if you delete this quickly enough!

    _pete_, (edited )

    I stripped the exif data from the image… that’s enough right?

    No, but seriously - I posted this to /r/gaming and the mods took it down in 15 minutes…

    fckreddit,

    Someone got to shill for billion dollar companies.

    huquad,

    Its too late. Theyre already dead.

  • Wszystkie
  • Subskrybowane
  • Moderowane
  • Ulubione
  • FromSilesiaToPolesia
  • fediversum
  • esport
  • rowery
  • tech
  • test1
  • krakow
  • muzyka
  • turystyka
  • NomadOffgrid
  • Technologia
  • Psychologia
  • ERP
  • healthcare
  • Gaming
  • Cyfryzacja
  • Blogi
  • shophiajons
  • informasi
  • retro
  • Travel
  • Spoleczenstwo
  • gurgaonproperty
  • slask
  • nauka
  • sport
  • warnersteve
  • Radiant
  • Wszystkie magazyny