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FireRetardant, do games w What are the best indie games you've ever played?

FTL and to a lesser extent their second game Into The Breach.

RNG heavy strategy games with lots of micromanaging.

glimse,

I loved both FTL and Into The Breach but I think I preferred the latter. What makes you like FTL more? (not arguing, just interested)

FireRetardant,

I had a harder time getting good at and staying interested in ITB. I still really enjoy a playthrough every now and then.

With FTL I guess it just feels more replayable and “on edge” to me. There is just something special about ftl runs, be it overpowered, under powered. There are so many ships, weapons, systems, and crew combinations that no run really feels the same.

The same could be said about ITB and their different mech teams but I guess it just doesn’t have the same feel. ITB feels like I’m selling my services to big corporations with saving people as an after note. FTL feels like a suicide mission for the fate of the galaxy and I think that feeling is what really makes me come back to FTL.

glimse,

Interesting! Thanks for sharing, I don’t really disagree with any of your points. Maybe I just liked the style of ITB more…I do love isometric tactics games

SupraMario,

FTL is the modern Oregon trail in space. It’s just so good.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Personally one of the aspects I enjoy a lot in FTL is managing my power levels mid-fight (Do I need my oxygen powered right now? I could probably turn it off until the fight is over…) I don’t know if any other game that has you shuffling around power like that.

glimse,

Oh yeah I forgot about that!

I redownload ITB after this thread and have been playing it. I might bust out FTL next because I apparently forgot how to play it lol

DelvianSeek, do games w Why do modern strategy games hate the grid?

Ultimately, the world is not a grid. So while grids may be great for pure strategy games like XCom (and I really enjoyed XCom, not knocking it at all), I think a lot of people would say that for more story-focused games like RPGs, they break the immersion. Thus, BG3 (which I’m also really enjoying) does not use one. Neither do any of the party-based RPGs that I can think of off the top of my head. For me personally, it depends on the game. I am perfectly happy without one in BG3. But I enjoyed having one for XCom, and more recently for Warhammer 40k Mechanicus. I would offer that as a suggestion if you are looking for a gridded turn-based strategy game.

anakin78z,
@anakin78z@lemmy.world avatar

Warhammer 40k Mechanicus Oh damn, it’s -76% off right now on Steam. Yes, I think I will be checking it out, thank you!

GreenMario,

Do it.

JJROKCZ,

It’s really is a good game, especially if you’re a 40k fan

bionicjoey,

Serve the Omnissiah well young adept

BorgDrone,

The world isn’t turn based either.

anakin78z,
@anakin78z@lemmy.world avatar

Waves 3D printed wand… Magic also no workie in real world 😖

0nXYZ,

Not when you hold it….

Potatos_are_not_friends,

You comment.

Then I comment.

Then you deliver a burn.

Then I submit.

lemmyvore,

I’m really confused as to why everybody’s saying BG3 doesn’t have a grid. It’s not visible, but it’s there. BG3 is obviously built around a grid of hexagonal prisms as its basic building block and it shows in everything, including combat and level design. They’ve done a great job with graphics and animations to make them smooth and make it seem like the grid is not there, but it is.

tomi000,

Of course the ground itself needs some kind of abstraction, there is no actual computing in the real numbers. Thats not the kind of grid OP is talking about though, they mean a grid where a character uses up a single tile.

9point6, do gaming w Responsible Adult say no to Store Exclusive.

A PC game is either on Steam or GOG or it doesn’t exist to me.

I subscribe to the humble monthly bundle thing and if a game doesn’t activate on one of those two I’m probably never going to play it despite owning it.

I’d maybe have added epic to the list if it wasn’t for the store exclusivity stuff. I know that they’ve dialled it back significantly, but anti-consumer stinks like that don’t readily wash out.

Conversely, GOG is on the list because they’re expressly pro-consumer, particularly with their preservationist initiatives. My monkey brain would prefer everything in one place on Steam, but I recognise behaviour I want to support in these companies, so GOG gets my money too

dufkm,

A PC game is either on Steam or GOG or it doesn’t exist to me

Mostly agree, except I’m okay with it if it’s something I can simply apt install

raspberriesareyummy,

You forgot patreon. Steam censors the library in places (hello German government & fuck you hard with a rusty rebar). But even outside censorship, patreon game developers usually do not lock in their games into rootkit-protected anticheat/copy protection/whatever bullshit.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Not censored but mandated by a government body so they literally have no other option other than doing that.
If the dev is too lazy to fill out a questionnaire for self-categorizing the age rating why is Valve responsible for that?

raspberriesareyummy,
  1. I was cursing at the German government, not steam
  2. I am not talking about the age categorization, I am talking about having to implement a customer age verification which they won’t do for the German market, and again, while this would be easy, I don’t necessarily blame steam for it. But that they do censor is unquestioned, and therefore more options are welcome, as long as those stores do not require a launcher, installer or otherwise intrusive software.
frostysauce,

Not censored but mandated by a government body

What exactly do you think censorship is?

wolfshadowheart,

The point is that you can’t legally own it in your country, Steam unrelated.

superkret, do games w Recommendation engine: Downvote any game you've heard of before

Pioneer is a great remake of the original Elite Space Sim.
It simulates the entire galaxy (core systems are hand-built, everything else procedurally generated), allows landing on planets, trading, combat, etc.
It features the original game’s Newtonian physics, so actually arriving safely at your destination is a challenge in itself, similar to flying in Kerbal Space Program. But the HUD gives you all the info you need for that.

Oh, and it’s fully open source and moddable.

hardcoreufo,

Isn’t it a remake of elite ii? Oolite is more like elite 1

dormedas, do games w Valve lifts NDA on Deadlock, streaming and talking about the game is now allowed.

There may be more people watching Deadlock than there are watching and playing Concord today based on available data and reasonable extrapolation. Valve continues to market in a unique way that works.

ngwoo,

It’s likely that Concord’s lifetime peak will be lower than Deadlock’s closed beta peak

simple, (edited )

Concord is dead on arrival. Kind of a shame, the game looked a bit interesting but being $40 and having very generic art this was bound to happen. Deadlock is in a whole other league.

Phegan,

Agreed. Why would they force you to pay 40 in a genre already overpopulated and most of them are free.

Katana314,

It’s basically impossible to increase the price tag on a game like that, and if you go free, the design pivots to a lot of abusive monetization systems. People run into that at the 10th hour of any free game.

It might be failing for a lot of reasons - I don’t think that one is necessarily their mistake though.

ltxrtquq,

Honestly, paying for a (primarily) multiplayer game isn’t a problem for me. I actually might prefer it when you look at Overwatch vs Overwatch 2. But I wasn’t about to sign up for a playstation account to play my Steam game.

sneezycat,
@sneezycat@sopuli.xyz avatar

You’re talking like ow2 isn’t literally the same game. I paid for ow1 and can’t go back to it.

ltxrtquq,

I think that’s what makes it such a good point of comparison though. It’s titled differently and we were promised it would be different, but all that really happened was they changed their monetization tactics. And maybe it’s just nostalgia, but I remember liking Overwatch when it came out, but now I have almost zero interest in playing Overwatch 2, even though I’ve gone back to it a few times just to give it a try.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, I did not even know a game called Concord exists.

BaardFigur, do games w Fuck Ubisoft.

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  • emogu,

    Yep. Gog is probably where we should all be getting our games tbf. Being mad that a game is available on one drm store instead of another drm store is kind of silly. In either case we’re only buying the license and not actually owning anything.

    zerofk, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games

    When I saw the post’s title I was hoping for a good, perhaps even balanced, critique of the remake’s choices, or the underlying engine’s shortcomings, or perhaps even the original designs.

    All I got was “dumpster fire”.

    Coelacanth, do games w Is Baldurs Gate 3's voice acting so great that it ruined other games for me?
    @Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

    BG3 is great and all but there are other games with at least equal voice acting quality. For all its qualities I never felt like “wow, I’ve never seen voice acting like this in a game!” when I played BG3. It’s really good and really consistent but nothing earth shattering.

    I know I bring up Disco Elysium a lot, but that is one game where I got repeatedly shocked at the quality and diversity of the voice acting. With the exception of one single character I think it’s acted to absolute perfection.

    I also didn’t really feel the same about Alan Wake 2 like, at all. I thought it had superb acting (both voice and full video segments) and probably hold the quality of its acting above BG3 personally. Alan Wake 1 less so.

    MrQuallzin,

    Disco Elysium was my first thought as well. Such great voice acting! It is easily my favorite game, and now I’m looking forward to Hopetown

    False,

    Which character did you not like?

    Coelacanth,
    @Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

    I don’t think Ruby works well but I suspect it’s a problem with direction rather than the voice actor themselves.

    SippyCup,

    mass effect and the first few dragon age games had great acting, Kingdom come has great acting, most of the Sony exclusives have great acting, it’s out there. It’s just rare.

    p03locke,
    @p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I second Disco Elysium’s voice acting and also all of Supergiant Games catalogue, especially Bastion, Transistor, and Hades. Portal 2 is the most hilarious video game of all time, and a major part of that is its voice acting.

    The Stanley Parable, Borderlands 1/2, Prey, System Shock 1/2, the Bioshock series, SOMA, the new Doom games, Path of Exile, all elevated by their voice acting.

    snailboy,

    I’d also put Still Wakes the Deep on that list.

    Venicon,
    @Venicon@lemmy.world avatar

    Agreed. BG3 is outstanding but I loved AW2, thought the acting and Mocap etc was brilliant

    henfredemars, do gaming w Tetris

    Many great games are like this. Dwarf Fortress is my personal favorite, where losing is fun.

    Xenny,

    Project Zomboid goes “THIS IS HOW YOU DIED” Everytime I start a new game and well, it hasn’t been wrong yet.

    Zidane,

    Is the new build coop yet? I wanna work a farm with the homies.

    dubyakay,

    Sadly it is not.

    lemmyng,
    @lemmyng@lemmy.ca avatar

    Finding new ways in which the environment (or your own actions) can kill you in Noita is very satisfying.

    9bananas,

    right up until redacted and suddenly it’s reeeaaaal difficult to find a way to end the game, because dying isn’t an option if you didn’t prepare for it XD

    WorldsDumbestMan,

    I found one of those genies that multiply in someone’s multiplayer room.

    I farmed the Valkyrie for wishes until I was broken, but I still could not reliably cast my own wish spell. Turns out, it gets harder to cast the more you level it up. You would need some ridicilous stuff to counter that.

    trigg,

    I’m always here for DF talk. Aquifer and active volcano remains a favourite

    henfredemars,

    Oh man I used to hate aquifers. They’re more manageable in the latest version but I still don’t find myself enjoying it as a resource.

    Volcanos are too much fun. I often unleash gratuitous amounts of fun playing with lava.

    sp3tr4l,

    Kenshi also doesn’t really have a ‘win’ state.

    Lots of other sandbox style games as well.

    Can you ‘win’ Caves of Qud? Or just… not die lol?

    grimoire,

    Qud has an ending now, it came with the 1.0 update.

    sp3tr4l,

    Ah! Did not know that, thanks!

    I’ll have to give it another spin.

    WorldsDumbestMan,

    I somehow became unable to lose, getting FPS death instead, and was forced to quit.

    I am a failure.

    henfredemars,

    Back in the day we disabled thermal calculation and used DFHack to clean up items.

    Not sure how well the Steam version addresses this.

    Sanctus, do gaming w Why compete when you can buy the competition?
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    To kill competition

    jordanlund,
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    Worked for EA…

    DeaDvey,

    fuck EA and fuck Microsoft.

    nerdschleife, do games w What did everyone grab during the Steam Winter Sale?

    Wanted to play It Takes Two with my gf when it launched. Hoping to convince her now that she’s my wife

    BluuTato,

    Oh It Takes Two is a good one! Played it with my partner a while back and had a great time!

    Nythos,

    It Takes Two is an amazing couples game that my girlfriend refuses to play again because of one scene lol

    stom,

    That damned elephant?

    Nythos,

    Aye, that’s the one.

    Zathras,

    This is my favorite game ever!!! Enjoy the experience.

    TheCannonball,

    Played it with my wife. We both agreed the gameplay is great but the story is awful. We disagreed that they should stay together in the end.

    ShellMonkey, do games w What games have you sunk the most time into?
    @ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com avatar

    Rimworld, way too much Rimworld. A big part of it is that I’ll often have it one a second computer during the workday just on pause to pop in during downtime but I guess that still counts as playtime just being loaded.

    Fizz,
    @Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

    Ive got 2.2k hours in RimWorld and I’ve only ever tried to launch a spaceship once(spoiler I died).

    Such a good game, such good modding scene.

    Boiglenoight,

    I’ve tried the game a few times and it doesn’t click with me. What’s is it that you find so appealing?

    technoego,

    Emergent gameplay is what appeals to me

    ShellMonkey,
    @ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com avatar

    For me a lot of it is in trying to maximize efficiencies. Setting up task duties and resources where you have plenty enough but not overloading your storage. Defensive position designs to counter any possible situation. Layouts to the base to allow free movement.

    Lot of others try for specific artistic ideas or scenario goals, but I’m something of engineer minded player.

    Boiglenoight,

    I’m not efficiency oriented at all. Which I dislike because I wish I was, but simply not. I do like base building games, and enjoyed Banished a lot.

    I imagine you’ve played Satisfactory.

    Fizz,
    @Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

    I like that each pawn builds up a personality overtime and grows as a character. I pretty much just play Rimworld as a doll house simulator

    Boiglenoight,

    I feel this way about XCOM. I’ll give this a shot.

    Fizz,
    @Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

    When someone does a heroic move I elevate them to hero status in the colony and they get a better bedroom, better armour and the best weapon.

    Boiglenoight,

    Dangit you’re making me want to play. Can you build an army with laser guns?

    Fizz,
    @Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

    Charge rifles or charge lances in vanilla. More laser weapons that you could ever use if you use mods.

    mosiacmango,

    Look for the “vanilla expanded” mods.

    It is a dedicated and organized team of modders that has output a stunning amount of content, all of it cohesive, and what many would consider required “base game” content.

    They have literally put out dozens of mods that could be standalone DLC, all for free.

    Boiglenoight,

    I will. Going to start playing again today. Trying to pull away from Hollow Knight which I committed to finally trying this holiday. That’s a fantastic game.

    Zarxrax, do games w Making peace with liking very few games?

    I’ve found that as I got older, my taste in games has narrowed significantly. I used to be able to play pretty much anything, or especially any popular or critically acclaimed games. But these days I just don’t give a shit about most of what’s out there. I do have certain genres and developers that interest me though, so I know there are occasionally going to be some new games that I really like. And every now and then I might get surprised by something too.

    natecox,
    @natecox@programming.dev avatar

    I suspect this is a natural result of having much more limited time as we become adults. I used to love all kinds of games too, but today if I feel like a game doesn’t respect my time it gets thrown right onto the “no thanks” pile.

    Bronzebeard,

    It’s limited time, but also the selection these last few years has felt very uninspired. Everything is extremely derivative and been done to death.

    There was a mass consolidation of developers/publishers recently, on top of further extended development cycles that has really limited any kind of variety we might have seen.

    Rhynoplaz,

    The last few games I was looking forward to have all been pretty disappointing.

    Mammothmothman,

    You can only play reskins of essentially the same game for so long. Not to mention recycling gameplay loops microtransaction hell toxic multiplayer experience (cheating griefing), makes for a minefield of unplesant game experiences. Sticking to what you like and know is how you get enjoyment out of playing.

    mesamunefire,

    Yep I just go to indies now. The AAA studios feel just samey.

    robolemmy,
    @robolemmy@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m retired and have basically unlimited time. I still don’t like most games.

    say_roguelike_one_more_time_mf.jpg

    mohab,

    Does it not feel weird sometimes to be disconnected from the gaming zeitgeist? Like, we can obviously still follow news and whatnot, but I'm particularly talking about having no significant emotional investment in contemporary releases—in other words: being disconnected from the hype of announcements and release cycles.

    I know people consider this a blessing in this age of hyper-consumerism, but there's a communal aspect to it that I like, and it often feels odd to not be part of it.

    KingJalopy,
    @KingJalopy@lemm.ee avatar

    Not weird for me. I don’t play anymore at all. Don’t even have a system to do so. But, I watch YouTube videos about games and game facts or speed running every night before bed. I know more about games now than when I actually played them. I just don’t have time for them anymore but that doesn’t mean they don’t interest me. I lost my passion for playing games years ago but not the idea of it. I don’t know or care about the hype but I just find it terribly interesting via others hype or interest in these games. If that makes sense.

    fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

    Like, we can obviously still follow news and whatnot

    I stopped following the news first, then largely lost interest in new games after that. After TotalBiscuit passed I haven’t seen a single thing about video game news or reviews. If there’s something I’m interested in I might skim through a review, but that’s the most I do.

    nutbutter,

    I thought I was the only one!

    can, do games w You know what would be cool? If all those (job name) simulator games could all be joined.

    Pretty sure we’re in that

    SharkEatingBreakfast,
    @SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz avatar

    I’m not having fun or making money.

    Who do I send a bug report to?

    can,

    A therapist

    lastweakness,

    But therapists are expensive :(

    ProdigalFrog, do games w Denmark is the 5th country to pass the #StopKillingGames EU threshold - 340K out of 1M signatures in total!

    If you’re not sure what StopKillingGames is about, the creator of the campaign, Ross Scott (of Freeman’s Mind fame) made this short video to give the rundown.

    spaghetti_hitchens,

    I'm in the US and can't help, but that video is fuckin brilliant. I want to have a beer with that guy

    ProdigalFrog,

    You’d probably enjoy his normal content then! He makes great stuff.

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