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Hadriscus, do games w Day 552 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

I don’t think I got the par times on Halo2. I know the levels by heart but there’s something stressful about it… maybe in coop yea

joshcodes,
@joshcodes@programming.dev avatar

They didnt have time to playtest the game. So the AI can fire faster than a human. It was one of the things they sorted for Halo CE but never got to due to constraints. It is literally the hardest Halo game because of this. I think on legendary youre even the weakest character entity in the game.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah. I have to say, it’s probably one of the most difficult par times I’ve done. Though, Reach, 3, and 4 all support 4 players so I’m sure we have an advantage in that department

Gonzako, do games w Day 552 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

LET’S GOO. Halo was always a game I wanted to play but since I moved to Linux I haven’t been able to boot up my master chief collection from steam

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

Weird. It’s always worked pretty flawlessly for me. The computer nerd in me kind of wants to try to debug it now lmao

JackDark, do games w Why are people still romanticizing No Man’s Sky’s “redemption” arc?

lol, look at OP’s only other post. Looks like another account for my block list.

TalkingFlower,

Lol, thanks, that’s a badge of honour in true Reddit style.

ISolox, do games w Why are people still romanticizing No Man’s Sky’s “redemption” arc?

Idk, idc. The game has been getting free updates for years and I enjoy it. Most devs would have ditched immediately.

TalkingFlower, (edited )

playstationlifestyle.net/…/august-2016-digital-sa…

Why should Hello Games ditch the game?

actionjbone,

Nobody’s saying they should. We are saying that most companies would. Because most companies do.

thingsiplay,
@thingsiplay@lemmy.ml avatar

Well that is what lot of devs do, after scamming and getting the quick money and stop working on it. But they kept working for years, still ongoing 10 years after launch. Even with the hate they got and after they got exposed.

TalkingFlower,

That’s why I used the building analogy in my original post to point out the standard of professionalism.

TheMetaleek,

Because, as this article that you keep linking says, they already made bank with the broken product in the first place. They could have just taken the money and closed the studio, or at least rebranding and going for the same trick again and again, as so many other actually do. They did not do that, they chose to do the opposite, which was an incredibly bold decision at the time.

You also keep linking another article showing how they made so much money recently, like in 2022, but you forget that this is now, with hindsight. In 2016 just after release, it was more dangerous for them to keep working on a game nobody trusted anymore.

And for the record, I bought NMS in 2022, and liked it okay-ish. It’s far from the best game ever, but arguing like you do that “they only added stuff they said would be in the game in the first place” is clearly fallacious.

TalkingFlower,

Fair enough, I will address that. It’s a commendable act…in the game industry, but at the same time, it is the professionalism expected in another industry, which is why I brought up the building analogy in my original post.

mavu, do gaming w When I was a child I thought as a child...

I think i have to re-watch that series. Best TV in the last decade.

ReasonablePea,

What show is this from? I’ve always wondered

hexabs,

The umbrella academy

NotASharkInAManSuit,

Might I suggest Doom Patrol? Umbrella Academy was inspired pretty much entirely by Doom Patrol and Gerard Way dropping the ball on his run at the series.

mavu,

Never heard of it, i’ll have a look, thanks :)

CodenameDarlen, (edited ) do games w Why are people still romanticizing No Man’s Sky’s “redemption” arc?

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  • BananaIsABerry,

    I know your question is likely rhetorical, but for the same reason. They improved on it enough to drown out the bad press and turn people’s opinions.

    I think that both games are good games, and they’re both fun. They had to meet unrealistic release expectations both internally and externally so had a terrible experience at launch. There’s clearly more money in fixing the product and improving public opinion though, so they did.

    I think people often forget that many games are the product of a really significant amount of people working for a significant amount of time, and that both the company paying them and the people working would like money to go in instead of out.

    Selling entertainment/art is sometimes self contradicting.

    LiveLM, do games w Ubisoft target audience when they play a good game

    Idk, of all the ways you could criticize Ubisoft, dragging this random guy just because he didn’t care too much for HL2 (and then took the time to write down his thoughts instead just going “game bad 👎”) feels silly.

    paultimate14,

    They make some good points about how we view “classic” games too.

    A lot of 16-bit games are remembered fondly because of things like “look at how many colors are on the screen at once! Look at how big the sprites are- they’re almost as big as the arcade version! Hear how there are 4 separate audio tracks that kind of almost sound like real instruments sometimes!”.

    Mario 64 is a great example for me. I hear other people was nostalgic about how incredible it was to be able to move in 3D space at the time, and how they spent hours just wandering around levels and marveling at the technology. For me, I did that with Crash Bandicoot (which came out a few months earlier in the US). And shortly after Spyro blew them both out of the water with its incredibly smooth controls and, imo, better graphics and sound. When I’ve tried to go back and play Mario 64 I find it a clunky mess of a game, more of a tech demo than anything else.

    On the one hand I can respect the pioneers. The original thinkers who push the frontiers of what art can be. On the other hand, those games that rely so heavily on being “revolutionary for their time” often don’t hold up well decades later when tons of games have done what they did better. I think it’s possible to appreciate those games for what they did without enjoying going back and playing them.

    When I look back at what I’ve played the past couple years, games like Control and Horizon: Zero Dawn stick out. I don’t think either one of them had anything particularly innovative or new. I see any games coming out today where I say “wow that’s a Control-like” game. But what they did do was execute on a high level, with a lot of polish and very few flaws. I think that’s the biggest strength of AAA games: execution, not innovation.

    pixeltree, do games w Why are people still romanticizing No Man’s Sky’s “redemption” arc?

    Because instead of the usual triple a studio promising the moon for sales then delivering a pebble and not giving a shit, it was a guy who got caught up in the hype and handled it badly, and then him and his small studio worked their asses off to make the game justify the price charged. I know it’s hard to drop the cynicism living in the modern world has instilled in us, but I genuinely think it was a collosal fuckup and not malicious, and they ACTUALLY put the time and effort in to deliver the promises they could and a fuckload more atuff that wasn’t. In a day and age of companies lying on purpose for profit and not giving a shit, it’s a breath of fresh air.

    TalkingFlower, (edited )

    That I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt, but the mythology of redemption through free update is part of being a beta tester for LNF, that’s pragmatism on HG’s part shift their burden to the fans, not a colossal fuck-up as you claimed.

    TORFdot0, do games w Ubisoft target audience when they play a good game

    I have yet to play half life 2 (waiting on my son to get the motivation to help me beat decay, I’ve beat the other expansions)

    But I can’t imagine that half life 2 doesn’t hold up when the first game is a masterpiece that holds up better than pretty much any FPS released after it

    awfulawful,

    Unfortunately several parts do not hold up when you remove the novelty and temporal context. The whole game was mind blowing when it was new; I very much enjoyed it then. On a subsequent playthrough years later, there were definitely parts that just did not hold up. I used the console liberally at times because I couldn’t be bothered to do them for real.

    I think it’s the consequence of bringing a truly revolutionary game to market with limited resources. There are clearly portions that exist to showcase the cool shit they could do rather than to drive the narrative or be genuinely fun.

    DrBob, do games w What challenge from a game isn't worth completing and what challenge from a game is worth completing?
    @DrBob@lemmy.ca avatar

    I cleared all the question marks in Skellige in Witcher 3. I expected…something…anything?

    lietuva,

    i broke the boat in the middle of the water and then quit the game for few months

    Klear,

    The payoff is in Cyberpunk.

    Surp, do games w RetroDECK 0.10.0b Is a Ground-Up Rewrite, Not Just an Update

    I haven’t looked yet but does it link up with retro achievements?

    PerfectDark,
    @PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes, it does!

    taiyang, do games w What challenge from a game isn't worth completing and what challenge from a game is worth completing?

    Beg to differ on the Pokemon example, but then again I am a completionist so that type of challenge gives me lots of self satisfaction (plus now I have achievements through RetroAchevements so a little bragging rights). Frankly, things like that should have internal motivation, so literally no reward is fine by me. I’m literally doing a professor oak challenge right now, which is significantly worse, lol.

    Where I draw the line is mostly challenges that I just don’t see myself being able to accomplish in a given lifetime. Like the Balatro golden chip on every joker is way too RNG and time consuming for me. I also generally prefer not to have to do a speed run, but that’s mostly because I have kids now and setting something down without worrying about time is ideal.

    Nelots,

    The professor oak challenge is rough lol. I tried it out on Pokemon Silver and must have spent well over 10 hours grinding to get my Feraligatr.

    taiyang,

    It’s mostly awful for the first two badges, but playing with fast forward I beat my first badge in White 2 with in game time around 65 hours (so probably around 15 hours). It’s insanely tedious, but I enjoy it late game.

    rtxn, do games w What challenge from a game isn't worth completing and what challenge from a game is worth completing?

    Finishing a Dark Souls game.

    And finishing a Dark Souls game.

    lance20000,

    I was debating saying beating Consort Radahn. It took me about a day of grinding to learn patterns, figure out strategies, find all the upgrades, and simply have the best RNG.

    I didn’t want to respect and just cheese him either. I will never attempt to beat him again, but I do feel satisfied that I beat him.

    HelterSkeletor,
    @HelterSkeletor@lemmy.world avatar

    I was going to say Soul Level 1 playthrough of Dark Souls is one of my favorite gaming experiences. Absolutely worth it for me. Helped me through some depression. Do not recommend to anyone however.

    addie,
    @addie@feddit.uk avatar

    Dark Souls 3 is a great game to play at SL1. You’ve got quite a selection of weapons and armour that you can equip, plus one spell, so it’s a bit of a puzzler to find optimum combinations of stuff to beat all the bosses.

    Dark Souls 1 is okay to play at SL1. You’re limited to being a pyromancer and have a good selection of flame spells that you can cast, but you’re limited to weapons with fairly boring movesets, and you’ll be doing a lot of running back to Blightown to get pyromancies and level up your flame.

    Dark Souls 2 is goddamned brutal to play at SL1. Your dodging is tied to your agility, which means you’re a sitting duck until you get some stat boosting gear. Start the game by murdering Cale for his hat of +3 dexterity, grab the work hook and the ladle to swap out in your off-hand for their small stat boosts, and get yourself to Tseldora to grind the peasant set for its small adaptability bonus. I hope you’re good at beating end-game bosses with a rapier, no shield, and bad rolls - maximum four in a row due to your low stamina, which makes throne watcher / defender hellish.

    Scholar obviously has all of the pain of 2, plus you can’t rush into the DLC areas for their high-powered rings. By the time you get the ring of the embedded for its massive SL1 stat boost, you’ll have most certainly earned it.

    Yes, I did play through all four at SL1 in preparation for the release of Elden Ring. DS3 is fun at SL1, but I also do not recommend the others to anyone. Elden Ring is quite good at RL1 - it still allows some quite varied builds, and it forces you to learn the bosses rather than just “DPS race” them like you do normally.

    FiniteBanjo, do games w Ubisoft target audience when they play a good game

    Bro spent hours playing HL 2 and then had to turn on godmode? Does he only have 1 hand or something? What happened?

    Bbbbbbbbbbb,

    I did that for Control when I played that, I was just ready to be done. Im guessing by every other part of the review the person was also just ready for the game to end

    FiniteBanjo,

    I suppose people who don’t enjoy overcoming challenges or figuring out strategies wouldn’t enjoy a lot of videogames in general.

    Nelots,

    What does that have to do with anything? If someone’s mentally checked out of the game so much that continuing to play through it becomes a slog, I can’t blame them for cheating just to get it over with.

    FiniteBanjo,

    If you’re not going to enjoy playing the game then you’re better off not finishing it, because by finishing it that way you’ve robbed yourself of the joy of overcoming the challenge.

    Nelots,

    What challenge? HL2 is not a particularly difficult game. And there isn’t going to be any joy in overcoming whatever challenge you’re talking about if they’re hating every second of the game. Its not like we’re talking about a souls-like where they cheated because they couldn’t defeat a boss. No, they cheated because they got bored, not because of some imaginary skill issue.

    And they’re not better off quitting if they still want to know how the game ends.

    acosmichippo,
    @acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

    0.2 hours to be exact.

    FiniteBanjo,

    Ah good catch, that means they lied as well.

    PrivateNoob,

    He said that he played through it in PS3 back in the day

    FiniteBanjo,

    Can Godmode be toggled in PS3?

    PrivateNoob,

    I don’t know that, I would guess not, probably

    Romkslrqusz,

    Using MMOD doesn’t track playtime for the man game

    Auth, do games w What challenge from a game isn't worth completing and what challenge from a game is worth completing?

    Factorio: lazy bastard is not worth getting but there is no spoon is absolutely worth getting. People over estimate how much is required pre rocket and get bogged down in these over engineered designs. After finishing thre is no spoon you realise how little is actually required and its best to just go build something than try design the perfect system that lasts into the megabase era.

    Iceblade02, (edited )

    My first full Factorio playthrough was a Lazy Bastard run. The game is a lot more chill when turning off biter expansions & turning up trees slightly in the map gen.

    Granted I think I racked up like 200hrs in that run, largely because I could leave the game running in the background whilst going off to study or do other stuff. Once you’re past the intial stage & have a mall set up, hand-crafting really doesn’t matter much.

    There is no spoon was alright as a goal, but it also ends up being a definitive end to that playthrough (which, arguably, can be both good and bad).

    Auth,

    I also play with no biters. I just dont see the point in having them enabled since i get past the rocket stag quickly and then end up working on a megabase for a few hundred hours and biters are just annoying.

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