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DeepThought42, do games w Here's what a random person on the internet thought of The Outer Worlds

The Outer Worlds has always struck me as something of an underrated game. I certainly liked it enough to play through it three times; once just the base game and two more times with the DLCs. I do agree that one of the highlights of the game are the companions. They were all unique and it was fun to pair up different companions and listen to their banter. Well, except for the robot who had fairly a limited set of lines.

I will say the DLCs added a lot to the game. I recall being mildly disappointed in how brief the base game was but after adding the DLCs it felt a lot more fleshed out. Not quite like a Fallout game, but enough to satiate.

setsneedtofeed,
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While the ending slides were mostly nothing special, I did actually audibly laugh when the SAM’s ending slide was an advertisement.

Bluefold,

Yeah the DLCs made it feel like a full game. The base was a fun proof of concept, the the DLC fleshes that out. Both made me excited to see what version 2 with more time and funding could accomplish.

I hope they build on the more unique systems like the Holographic Shroud and give those systems more opportunities to shine.

Melonpoly, do gaming w They're often much older if I'm emulating

Because most of the time, older games were made with player enjoyment in mind, not shareholders.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Eh, there’s a huge number of shovelware for every console generation, plus less than stellar titles. The thing is that, due to all the years piling up, the amount of good stuff just increases.

HawlSera,

True, but back then games were made to stand on their own instead of being a poorly thought out monetization machine.

I mean Big Rigs: Over The Road Racing was shit, but at least they only expected you to pay for it once… and you can still play it, you don’t have to wait for a lobby to fill up before it lets you into the game, a lobby that will never fill up because no one’s playing Big Rigs: Over The Fucking Road Racing

Dutczar, (edited )
@Dutczar@sopuli.xyz avatar

The developers who made Big Rigs probably wouldn’t have the budget to make an AAA game nowadays. A better comparison would be indie games, and there’s more of them (or it feels like it) due to easier development & distribution. (Which does involve shovelware). Even excluding Indies, AA games without subscription models are plentiful too.

Edit: (AAA games are a better example of being worse, I haven’t played them but comparing Assasin’s Creed or Metal Gear back in the day to now is better to show the bad practices. Thankfully, like I said, there’s just a ton more games and you don’t need to play the crappy ones)

HawlSera,

Naw

orphiebaby,

The people who published Big Rigs are still out there publishing terrible mainstream license games such as the new Kong game and the new Avatar: TLA game (yes, really). They’re called “Game Mill”, and they are exactly what their name is, and their games are some of the worst on shelves. They don’t keep any employees very long and they have them work on games before they even get an order so they can slap the license into the game last-minute.

flumph, do gaming w We've had a few killer games recently
@flumph@programming.dev avatar

In the same time period, we’ve gotten Skull And Bones, Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League, and Diablo IV skins that cost more than the base game.

It can simultaneously be true that the big companies are churning out cash grabs while other companies are making awesome games.

canis_majoris, do gaming w Skyrim Marriage
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

I love that reaction image, it’s golden.

thantik, do gaming w The rainbows are nice...

People who believe rainbows are gay and avoid them because of that, deserve to have that freedom taken from them. Rainbow me up baby.

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

it scares me that Californication

toomanypancakes, do games w Bought a used cart for my wife for Christmas, but thought it needed a case to wrap. Think she'll notice it's not legit?
@toomanypancakes@lemmy.world avatar

Why did you post the same picture twice?

hperrin, do games w Larion Studios forum stores your passwords in unhashed plaintext.

You can also tell if a site does this when they have seemingly arbitrary restrictions on passwords that are actually database text field restrictions.

Especially if they have a maximum password length. The maximum password length should be just the maximum length the server will accept, because it should be hashed to a constant length before going into the database.

icedterminal,

I recently created an Activision account during a free weekend event and discovered their password system is completely broken. 30 character limit but refused to accept any more than 12 characters. Kept erroring out with must be less than 30. Once I got it down to 12 it accepted that, but then it complained about certain special characters. Definitely not giving them financial information.

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

My bank has a character limit, but they don’t tell you about it; they just trim the password you’ve set before hashing + saving it, then when you go to login if you don’t trim your password the same way they did, login fails.

I only know this because the mobile app will actually grey out the login button as soon as you enter more than the character limit. The web app just leaves you to be confused.

icedterminal,

What an absolutely shitty design.

Chobbes,

I had a similar situation with my health insurance company, except I think they added the character limit a while after I had set my password T_T. So, it worked for months, then they changed the mobile app so I couldn’t enter a long password… And then eventually they changed the website too and then I couldn’t log in at all. Thaaaaanks.

turbowafflz,

Isn’t this also what Windows NT used to do? I feel like I remember encountering this scenario

DSTGU,

Doesnt lemmy also do it? I think I ve heard from Ruben at Boostforlemmy that lemmy only treats first 60 characters of your password as a password and the rest gets discarded. [citation needed]

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Can’t say I’ve ever tried to use a password quite that long, so I’m not sure.

Not ideal, but trimming it (especially when you’re keeping 60 chars) isn’t the end of the world. It was just super confusing that the web app doesn’t trim it during login as well. There’s no indication that your password was modified or what you’ve entered to login is too long. Just ‘incorrect user/pass’ despite entering what you’ve just set. That char limit for my bank is only 16 chars, so it’s easy to hit.

wols,

It’s a big deal IMO, particularly because at login it doesn’t do the same. From the user perspective, your password has effectively been modified without your knowledge and no reasonable way of finding out. Good luck getting access to your account.
When a bank does this it should be considered gross negligence.

exal,
@exal@lemmy.ca avatar

Kind of.

The official web UI doesn’t let you enter more than 60 characters, but doesn’t indicate that at all. So you can keep typing past 60 characters but it won’t get added to the input field and you can’t really see that. If you paste a password into the field, it gets trimmed to 60 characters.

When creating a password, the server checks that it isn’t longer than 60 characters and returns an error if so. On login, however, it silently trims the password to 72 bytes, because that’s what the hashing algorithm they use supports.

Jezzdogslayer,

My bank if you get your card number through the app has a dynamic ccv that changes every day so while not perfect is what I use whenever purchasing online

exal,
@exal@lemmy.ca avatar

Especially if they have a maximum password length.

Not really, there are good reasons to limit password length. Like not wanting to waste compute time hashing huge passwords sent by a malicious actor. Or using bcrypt for your hashes, which has a 72 byte input limit and was considered the best option not that long ago. The limit just has to be reasonable; 72 lowercase letters is more entropy then the bcrypt hash you get out of it, for example.

hperrin,

Yes, reasonable limits are fine, I was talking more like 12 or 13 characters max. That’s probably indicative of a database field limit, and I’ve seen that a fair amount because my password manager defaults to 14 characters.

DrSleepless, do games w This should be illegal

You don’t own things anymore, you just lease them

mnemonicmonkeys,

And if you can’t own anything by paying, is game piracy even theft anymore?

Viking_Hippie,

I believe the founder and first queen of Carthage said that if we don’t learn to circumvent that, we deserve nothing more than we get. She went on to claim that nothing we have is truly ours.

Is it just me or was that Phoenician quite a bit ahead of her time?

bjoern_tantau, do gaming w I only ever used it for Pokemon, but I'm sure there were other uses.
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You could play multiplayer Tetris that way. I think I saw it once in my life.

gibmiser,

Me and my brother did it on road trips in the family van. It was awesome.

hopesdead,
@hopesdead@startrek.website avatar

What is multiplayer Tetris?

KillerTofu,

Well, it’s complicated. See it’s Tetris but with multiple players.

AceSLS,

No way, my mind can’t even begin to comprehend

brianary,

I played multiplayer Tetris frequently.

When you get lines, your opponent’s stack pushes a line with a gap up from below, except when you get a Tetris, which pushes four lines (with the gap aligned, so you could Tetris back and forth).

You had an indicator for the max height of your opponent’s stack next to yours.

Great game.

iegod,

If you haven’t experienced multiplayer tetris from the modern remakes you may be in for a treat. It’s a lot of fun when you’re up against someone of similar skill. At least one switch version includes ranked matchmaking (Puyopuyo Tetris).

Pechente,

There‘s also an excellent Gameboy Color romhack of Dr Mario that supports multiplayer. Recently tried that out with my girlfriend and it was a lot of fun.

Edit: this is it for anyone interested. Looks like even the original version for the Gameboy supports multiplayer.

Zoomboingding,
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

I played multiplayer bomberman :D

einlander, (edited ) do games w Day 3 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

Please don’t take selfies with the depressed bear.

MarcomachtKuchen,

What a great coincidence. The post was right below it for me too

Speculater,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

Reference too new, handshake rejected.

MacedWindow,
@MacedWindow@lemmy.world avatar

Looks more like he’s high to me

Broken_Monitor, do gaming w If anything, I expect to enjoy them MORE once I can share the interest with my kids

Finding time for them has become more difficult. The kids dont typically play great games. Its fun to play some things with them but by the 3rd lego game I was done, its so repetitive. I keep playing stuff like that to entertain them, not really to entertain me. Playing more adult games requires setting up a separate space or waiting for kiddos to be in bed, and man I’m too old to stay up so late. I still enjoy them and haven’t grown out of them completely, but in a sense I sort of have just because of competing responsibilities that win the fight for my time.

anomaly,
@anomaly@sh.itjust.works avatar

I feel this, I have a Steam Deck that allows me 30 minutes to an hour of play at a time with the ability to pause and resume games when other responsibilities come up. This allows me the separate space but I can always plug it back in to the TV and play with my children. Of course I play mostly single player games these days so it’s not a fit for online multiplayer games.

jettrscga,

It’s gotten harder to find games that don’t feel repetitive or similar to other games I’ve played. I think that’s part of the joy of gaming for kids - it’s all new experiences.

I find myself appreciating unique indie games now, especially if they don’t try to consume all my time. I don’t get much out of a 100hr open world game where I have to collect 500 keys since I already did that in so many other games.

vaultdweller013,

Another thing to do is just go back and look at older games. A lot of them fell through the cracks over the years. Like Arcanum: Of steamworks and magic only problem is half the forum posts are in polish or written cyrillic and the best guide is an ancient ass website I need to archieve.

ringwraithfish,

The kids dont typically play great games

Fucking Roblox

peopleproblems,

I tell my son I don’t let him play Roblox because of all the exploitive stuff around Robux

But the truth it calling those things Games is cancer, and we have to stop cancer before it spreads.

4am,

Fucking REAL. My library continues to grow and my time continues to shrink. Damn the Steam sales

billwashere,

When all the kids are outta the house and you have an empty nest, only then do you find the time.

state_electrician,

Yeah. I set up the PS5 next to my work station at home and am on my fourth play through of Cyberpunk. I often play between or even during boring meetings.

TheEighthDoctor, do games w "The Day Before" makers Fntastic are shutting down.

We have known for 2 years that it was going to be like this, the surprising part is that it was actually launched.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YFJEMyPyHA

jonne, (edited ) do games w Larion Studios forum stores your passwords in unhashed plaintext.

Sending your password right after you created it might not be best practice, but it doesn’t mean it’s stored unhashed in the database. It looks like they’re using a third party forum software, so it should be pretty straightforward to figure out whether they do or not.

Looks like they address it here: forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp…

AlmightySnoo,

it should be pretty straightforward to figure out whether they do or not

Not really since it’s closed-source: www.ubbcentral.com

But they seem to have been in business since 1997, so I highly doubt that they’d fuck up the “never store passwords in plain text” rule.

jonne,

Yeah, I was looking it up, and when I saw they’ve been selling this forum software since 1997 I was less confident about passwords being hashed. They address it in their forums and they’re making it clear that the passwords are actually hashed, and they’re looking at migrating to other solutions regardless.

mosiacmango,

That thread is from 2020, where they said they fixed the password send issue.

Op, how old is ths image above?

Cabrio,

Image was taken immediately before posting. The issue, apparently, has since shown up again.

themeatbridge, do gaming w A comical old game review for the Sims 2, ripping them for microtransactions.

Jesus that got dark.

RaoulDook,

LOL they hanged that motherfucker for making some crappy DLC. How the mighty have fallen, in the world of game journalism. Where’s their review of Horse Armour?

PiratePanPan, do games w Sony cancelled the PSN account linking requirement for Helldivers 2
@PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Cyberbullying works 🎉

Reddfugee42,

Is that the new term for boycott?

clutchtwopointzero,

Ya, it’s the good ol’ “voting with your wallet” that can bring companies to their knees

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