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adarza, do gaming w Valve ban advertising-based business models on Steam, no forced adverts like in mobile games

valve would basically have to become an ‘advertising company’ and require these types of games to use the ‘valve ad network’, in addition to the storefront for in-game sales, in order for valve to profit from them.

i don’t think valve is necessarily ‘against’ the business model, as it has proven to be rather profitable for the big hits and big players… and valve is in the business of making lots of money. rather, it’s that valve doesn’t want to become that advertising company. at least, not at the present time.

Katana314, do games w Linux hits exactly 2% user share on the October 2024 Steam Survey

I gave Linux another shot this past month. It was a lot better than I remembered, but still not good enough, basically in the reliability areas. I wish the experience was “it all just works” like so many have said.

I may not mind giving it another try when Windows Recall goes live.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds like you’re willing to forgive a mountain of bullshit for windows but nothing for a non corporate os

Blackmist,

“None of my stuff works but I least I don’t have to use WinBloWz$$$”

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

The only thing I have that doesn’t work, actually smoother and faster than windows, is anti cheat in some games. But really that just makes me play less games with garbage business models. I can just reboot into windows any time but I do about once every 5 months because it’s a piece of shit

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Do you honestly think people who hate windows do it for no reason? I guarantee anyone who hates windows has used it for 10+ years and could easily list 20 legit complaints

Blackmist,

Do you honestly think that people who use Windows do it for no reason?

We’re not just using a browser over here. We have thousands of games we’d like to continue running, as well as thousands of dollars of business software. PC gaming is buggy enough as it is, without throwing one of a million distros of Linux into the mix.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

You’re not well informed on the topic, that much shows

icecreamtaco,
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

That’s me. Spent 20 years on windows and then decided to buy a Mac as an experiment. After about a month I was a lifetime convert

Katana314,

Priority one is having a working computer. Priority two is evading future spyware.

Priority three is using an OS where seeking support for issues doesn’t produce the reply “Sounds like you fucked something up, idiot, because it works perfectly for me!”

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t call you an idiot. I just implied you’re looking for reasons to avoid change. Which sounds doubly true after this comment.

Katana314,

You’re saying this to someone who took the time to format a drive to install Linux, read up on recommended partition structure, and take the time tweaking desktop settings to my preference, in genuine hope it would become a daily driver so I could stop using Windows. All of that effort still wasn’t enough.

The quote wasn’t pointed to you, but it was a generalized view of how seeking help turns out. Your above comment, and this one, are showing the same thing: You, and Linux users in general, need only the tiniest justification to belittle someone for not being a 100% Linux devotee/apologist.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

The quote wasn’t pointed to you

It was a response to me. Yeah I don’t really understand people who claim to have put a lot of effort into using Linux and then had to switch back after truly giving it a shot. Because that describes my experience with it 15 years ago. The improvements since then are enormous, yet people always seem to expect me to believe that in fact no, it’s not just a handful of issues/adjustments. It’s actually still unusable. I’m sure writing this makes me a monstrous vitriolic asshole but whatever. It doesn’t. We both know windows has a fuckton of issues. Being used to them doesn’t erase them.

Daveyborn,
@Daveyborn@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve received that reply too many times and can understand why it turns people away. I got lucky and eventually got someone more willing to actually help and been dual booting since.

Xatolos,
@Xatolos@reddthat.com avatar

Just randomly wondering, which distro did you use on what hardware?

Katana314,

I used Linux Mint 21 first, which didn’t (correctly) support my ancient wi-fi card or graphics driver. I then tried 22, which was much better, but failed to run a number of games, exhibiting a variety of issues not listed on ProtonDB.

I then switched to Bazzite, which ran those same games correctly, but its OS-integrated file explorer was oversimplified far past what Windows does, it failed to install several Linux-native applications, alt-tab behavior was frequently glitchy around games, and often I would come back from sleep mode with bizarre graphical glitches forcing me to restart.

I’m not even highlighting the poor usability, or the stuff I might be able to reconfigure. I’m okay with taking time to tweak my OS how I want it, but not when that’s just a matter of having it work correctly.

Undearius,
@Undearius@lemmy.ca avatar

That sucks it didn’t work well for you. Hopefully the useability is more improved the next time you may be willing to try again.

AllHailTheSheep,

I totally get it. in terms of ease of use and setup, if you ever do give it another go, try fedora. I had similar gaming issues with multiple Linux distros, gave fedora a go, and everything worked pretty much right out of the box, I was super impressed. ymmv ofc but keep it in mind for the future!

Geth,

Isn’t Bazzite just Fedora with more stuff baked in. If anything, Bazzite is supposed to be even easier and more compatible.

AllHailTheSheep,

it meant to be yes. unfortunately having more stuff baked in can lead to more issues than good on some systems. kde neon is meant to be kubuntu with more stuff baked in but ime it causes more issues than good.

Jeffool, do games w Linux hits exactly 2% user share on the October 2024 Steam Survey
@Jeffool@lemmy.world avatar

I’d love to make the move, but there’s a one-two punch of: I play Warzone with family. I think anti-cheat there is only going to get worse. Second? I already get caught with the fiddly bits of errors on Windows sometimes and spend too long searching for answers. Any time I see that on Linux it looks like I’d need years more of active learning new problem solving to reach my current level of comfort.

I’m at that “is it worth planting the apple tree now that I didn’t plant 20 years ago?” thinking.

ballskicker,

I’m not really a tech guy at all and I let these nerds talk me into trying Linux Mint, I haven’t bothered with Windows 10 for several months now. There was some frustrating troubleshooting at first but once the settings are tweaked how you like them, the updates don’t negate your tweaks like with Microsoft. I’m sure there’s a lot of functionality I’m not maximizing but I don’t feel the need to. I got my productivity stuff figured out, my game stuff figured out, the last thing I really need to get sorted is why my printer is being such a wiener but I use it so sparingly that there’s not much motivation to mess with that. I did dual boot for a while so I wouldn’t feel overwhelmingly stupid when it came to Linux, so I was able to familiarize myself with the new setup at my pace and that helped quite a bit I think. No harm in going that route, then you can see what happens with Warzone before fully taking the plunge

Jeffool,
@Jeffool@lemmy.world avatar

I actually used Mint for about a year a decade ago, and really liked it then. What made me switch back was the gaming. That said, I hear gaming on Linux has just gotten better and better; just like people in this thread are saying. Whenever I get around to putting together a new PC I’ll probably either dump something Linux on this one or dual boot myself. Sadly I don’t expect Activision to really support it. But hey, Lord knows I’ve been wrong before. (And yeah, printers are often kinda universally assholes though; that we all know.)

FeelThePower,

Warzone player here, I actually had to switch back to windows after like 3 years on mint because of this sadly.

prole,

Admittedly, I don’t play any games with anti-cheat, but my linux gaming experience over the past two years or so has been outstanding. I don’t believe I have encountered a single game that I have wanted to play, but could not. And 99.9% of them work without any tweaking required.

Mako_Bunny,

Warframe works fine on linux, just saying

Jeffool,
@Jeffool@lemmy.world avatar

hah, respect, but I play Warzone with some cousins who are on console. (Actually I just searched, and I didn’t realize Warframe had crossplay now! I might have to at least get them to give it a shot, thanks for the mention!)

Mako_Bunny,

Oh I may have misread the comment, apologies

Jeffool,
@Jeffool@lemmy.world avatar

Nah you’re good. I’m absolutely going to suggest we give Warframe a try. And if we get off of Warzone, maybe I’ll end up moving sooner rather than later.

thatKamGuy,

If it’s within your budget, grab a Steam Deck and use it in docked Desktop mode. It’s a pretty great introduction into Linux IMO, especially due to the fact that Valve themselves are maintaining the OS, and since it’s running on a fixed hardware platform - most online solutions should be applicable to any problems you may encounter.

Worst case, you don’t like it you can always eBay it off to recoup most of your costs?

Jeffool,
@Jeffool@lemmy.world avatar

That WOULD be a fraction of the cost of a new PC. But given my current one is a 2017 build with a 1080 in it, I’m really hoping to make next year the time to free up some money for it regardless. But I do appreciate the thought!

TunaLobster,

If you can swing it, keep the old PC parts around and put Linux on the old stuff and build up confidence there. I used synergy to move my mouse between windows and Linux and slowly got to the point I felt good enough to jump all in.

Grass, do games w Linux hits exactly 2% user share on the October 2024 Steam Survey

I just converted my other brother the other day. atomic distros are great when you are the family tech support guy. Made an ssh only user on all the family computers so I can remotely deal with most of their problems without having to actually touch it or remember their login details.

brainw0rms, (edited ) do gaming w Steam games will now need to fully disclose kernel-level anti-cheat on store pages
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  • ruckblack,

    I hope someday that hexbear users learn how to use their words.

    SturgiesYrFase,
    @SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

    Yeesh…that might come back to bite you…

    ruckblack,

    Oh I’m so scared

    SturgiesYrFase,
    @SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

    Cool

    Alsephina,

    Me when I have to cope with not having any cool emojis

    https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/2c9e2904-7d1d-4c2e-af4e-646a5f5eb010.png

    Sabata11792, do games w Portal 2 VR mod gets an early release
    @Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

    I should probably play this one sober.

    mySFWaccount, do games w Portal 2 VR mod gets an early release

    My bucket is ready.

    _cryptagion, do games w Playtron wanted to take on Windows and SteamOS with their GameOS, now they're announcing a cryptocurrency

    Through this lens it became clear: stablecoins will become a financial backbone for the $500B global gaming economy.

    The people interested in alternatives to SteamOS for Linux gaming probably aren’t going to be the sort of people who are interested in cryptocurrency or more micro transactions. I don’t think they have much of a clue what their target audience likes.

    scrubbles, do gaming w HP are interested in making a SteamOS handheld as the Windows experience sucks
    !deleted6348 avatar

    Jesus everyone yes, hp sucks. A lot. But this is still good news. Steam and Linux are being legitimized as real platforms. The more companies who jump in the better.

    BmeBenji,

    The headline also sucks. “HP are [doing something] because [a different company’s] user experience sucks” reeks of utter hypocrisy

    grue, do games w Team Fortress 2 Classic is coming to Steam thanks to Valve adding TF2 to the Source SDK

    Neat!

    Now what we need next is Team Fortress Classic 2.

    ElectroVagrant, do games w Freejam studio closing with Robocraft and Robocraft 2 shutting down

    Then they were able to take that game away from me and replace it with something I liked far less. This is inevitable for any live service game; if not replacing the game you liked with something else, then its removal altogether so that no one can play it anymore in any form. It sucks.

    This is a good, concise way to describe one of the subtler problems with these types of game. At least with some of them, if they’re sold without DRM, you can keep the version you like, but more often than not, those are few and far between.

    entropicshart, (edited ) do games w Manjaro Linux devs show off the OrangePi Neo prototype handheld with gameplay

    But will they try to charge you $200 for a cosmetic scratch that now warrants a screen replacement and paying for shipping without fixing the original manufacturer defects?

    Edit: context

    EasternLettuce,

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  • CuttingBoard,

    Xtreme Gamers did a video regarding Asus’ behavior and customer service with their current handheld system. It was not good. The comment is referencing that video.

    NosferatuZodd,

    You mean gamers nexus right?

    CuttingBoard,

    Yes…I get them confused.

    secret300,

    Link to vid?

    UprisingVoltage, do gaming w AMD FSR 3.1 announced with Vulkan support, upscaling quality improvements

    Is it just me or very few games support FSR3? Which is a shame, it looks amazing on paper

    Fisch,
    @Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    You can replace DLSS 3 with FSR 3 with a mod but yeah, it’s weird that so few games officially support it

    UprisingVoltage,

    What’s the mod?

    Fisch,
    @Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de avatar
    PenguinTD,

    Because FSR3 is really new, released Sep 2023. Even the games that actually can patch in FSR3 didn’t get to do it properly until Avatar nailed it and just earlier this month released another update to push it further. In short, AMD is working with devs to improve their plugin integration to various engine devs, and I don’t think 3.1 is the “end goal”.

    FSR 3’s result really depends on how developer understand and work with the proposed render pipeline compare to DLSS(which basically runs AI kernal to guess what pixel values to fill). Especially with games that features pip scope(fake UI scopes with on the fly fov changes are fine) or some translucent elements where it can not do the velocity buffer properly. (basically most of the fringeness on edge or flickering/swimming are mostly from precision, and ghosting are from wrong velocity when you see the old FSR artifacts).

    TheFerrango, do games w EA opens up more patents for increasing Accessibility in gaming

    Finally, people with disabilities can experience loot boxes, ads and DLCs at no extra cost

    pyromaniac_donkey, do games w Godot Engine hits over 50K euros per month in funding

    vamos

    Amends1782,

    Lessgoooo

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