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Asimo, do games w Anyone remember Xfire?

Man I’d forgotten about this.

This and vent were the first things I loaded when gaming (along with frapps).

jetsetdorito,

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AndreyAsimow, do gaming w Madden should not be 70$
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Sport games should be sold as game as service rather than yearly releases.

AbsolutelyNotABot,

While on a side I agree with you, on the other I see everytime people complaining about subscription fatigue and they never, ever would pay a recurring amount for a game.

So I don’t really have a solution for this lol

AndreyAsimow,
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World of warcraft, and many other mobile games did it

OrgunDonor,

What would you say is a good price for this new subscription? $6 a month?

AndreyAsimow,
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Exec,
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Huh, WoW’s gotten very expensive. FF14 is about €11.

OrgunDonor,

So you think they should pay more than twice as much than they currently are?

Madden isnt worth $70 a year. Let alone the $156 you seem to be suggesting.

ampersandrew,
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I figured savvy sports fans would find a good simulation game without the license and just mod in the updated rosters, but that never seemed to happen.

conciselyverbose,

There are no other football games that are even respectable efforts, and despite the rhetoric, Madden is actually a very good football sim that continually gets developed from year to year.

ampersandrew,
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I suppose I implied but didn't explicitly state that my expectation is that someone would develop that competent football game. There's an early access game now, arguably 15 years too late, called Football Simulator that could be that game. If it's well-made, hopefully it serves that audience. But I don't think it's just rhetoric. Madden review scores have been falling in later years, and that's to be expected when they have a monopoly on the NFL license.

conciselyverbose,

Reviews are extremely lazily done and about game modes. The game modes have seen minimal development since the emergence of ultimate team, and people are justifiably unhappy with that.

Literally not one major outlet is evaluating the actual simulation of the sport, which very clearly has massive investment from year to year and sees serious improvements to complexity and fidelity in each instance, with stagnation only coming when it hits the wall of what console hardware can do.

I've seen football simulator. It might maybe be competitive on physics with decade ago Madden, but even that's generous. If you just want a vehicle for franchise mode it might work for you, but if you want to play football it's just not close. Madden isn't perfect as a football sim either, because the physics of football are insanely complex, but there's nothing out there that's better than "kind of close to a decade ago" technically. You're much more likely to make something tolerable leaning into the discrepancy and making an arcade-y NFL Street knockoff, and that isn't there either.

ampersandrew,
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Value for money is a great thing to evaluate in a review, and the simulation of the sport has seen an increase in bugs in recent years, hence the lower scores.

conciselyverbose,

the simulation of the sport has seen an increase in bugs in recent years,

This is a ridiculous lie. It's not even in the general vicinity of reality.

The absolute best mainstream review of Madden in existence is a many times less competent version of that platformer review where the guy couldn't get through the tutorial. You unconditionally are not qualified to give any opinion in any context if you don't understand the mechanics and strategy of the sport.

ampersandrew, (edited )
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Fine. I don't play Madden. But I know with the sources I follow on games news, this is what gets echoed back. Giant Bomb does a quick look for the game, say up front that they don't expect to get through it without encountering bugs, and then they encounter bugs. The kinds of bugs you'd recognize no matter how into football you are.

EDIT: Yup, bugs are mentioned in many reviews for the last several years of Madden. Seems to be the reality.

conciselyverbose, (edited )

There will always be bugs. It's the nature of a complex simulation with emergent gameplay.

But anyone telling you that they're increasing doesn't know what they're talking about. They're increasingly small edge cases as the simulation gets very obviously more advanced and complex every iteration. It's not minor and it's not subtle. If you play ten hours a year with a middle school football level of understanding the improvements are impossible to miss.

Any review from someone who doesn't watch football every week all season is the exact same quality of someone who's never played an FPS reviewing a tactical shooter. it has literally zero value in any possible context and it's an embarrassment to your organization to publish it.

ampersandrew,
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I can't speak for every reviewer, but a good number of them do watch football every week. Plenty of games have advanced simulations and don't have texture bugs and T posing. I'm glad you enjoy the games, but the reviews are what they are for a reason. I'm also not sure how you went from, "Anyone saying these games are buggy is lying" to "Of course it will have bugs!"

conciselyverbose,

The reviews are what they are because there are literally zero gaming outlets who respect the existence of sports games or cover them the way they cover anything else.

I play hundreds of games a year and have literally never once seen a player t pose on the field. It's not a thing that's a normal or frequent occurrence, and anyone who tells you it is isn't just incompetent. They're deliberately and maliciously lying to you, and in and of itself it's incontrovertible proof that their entire review is fraud.

sylver_dragon,

If you’re paying for a new version every year, is all that different than paying for a service? At the very least, with the yearly release model, you can simply decide not to pay for a year and keep playing the old one.

13esq, do games w Day 8 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

These types of “Day X of Y until I forget” posts used to piss me off on Reddit, but here I’m just glad someone is providing content.

ivanafterall,
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Day 1 of posting comment replies to the comments I’ve been reading until I forget to post a reply.

SidewaysHighways,

Day 0 of

MyNameIsAtticus, (edited )
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50% of it is just me wanting to share the screenshots. I considered just dumping the screenshots without much context, but this way I feel like I’m building a habit around it and i feel like it’s easier for people to find, if they really want too for some reason, a screenshot they missed. I totally get why it would be irritating though. A lot of them on Reddit I feel like we’re really low effort posts

setsneedtofeed, do gaming w *Main theme starts playing*
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Truly this is…SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom.

Rai, do gaming w And yet I still find myself choosing the Switch version anyway

I hadn’t bought many switch games before the Yuzu stuff, and never will again. I’ll forever be playing them at 1440p/60+FPS on my computer for free.

mynamesnotrick, do games w Something from the old days

wololo

b3an,
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Convert me papal papi!

itsgroundhogdayagain, do gaming w Took me a couple of tries, but it totally works.

Mercenaries was so much fun

prettybunnys,

“Oh no you didn’t”

TachyonTele,

That game is awesome

Transporter_Room_3,
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My favorite repeatable mission, as intended by the devs: we need you to roll this barrel as far as you can by walking into it

My solution: looks at barrellooks at C4… (20 seconds later) clickBOOM

Honestly if they teamed up with the Just Cause team, they could make something quite interesting. Maybe not good, but certainly interesting!

CatZoomies, do gaming w Minimalism
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Fucking love the Nintendo 3DS. My favorite console of all time. Comfortable, fantastic games, great range of first party titles that implemented 3-D extremely well, and of course my favorite feature: StreetPass. My god I loved StreetPass. So much fun bringing it anywhere and getting that green flashing light telling you visitors arrived on your 3DS.

I played the hell out of the StreetPass mini games, and also enjoyed some of the implementations in various titles.

A Link Between Worlds probably takes the crown as my favorite game on 3DS. I also installed custom firmware on it, and when I’m not playing SteamDeck, I bust out the 3DS to play old roms. I have so much nostalgia with this portable, my spouse and I would play this all the time when we were dating too. I cherish the 3DS.

Texas_Hangover,

When Nintendo gets shit right, they really knock it out of the park.

brokenlcd, do gaming w How times change

If we need to get into this kind of debate; may i remember everyone that the computer that brought humanity on the moon had 2k of ram

RightHandOfIkaros,

That was a lot of RAM for the time though.

IWantToFuckSpez,

Well yeah that computer didn’t had to hold Aldrin’s porn collection in memory.

DragonTypeWyvern,

He brought the physicals!

UnderpantsWeevil,
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I watched the moon landing at 60fps on a TV that cost me $80.

Why can’t I play max resolution BG3 at this framerate?

Aux,

Because the moon landing was rendered by the TV station and your TV only showed the end result. You can do the same with GeForce NOW or other streaming service.

mkwt,

And for several years that one program was consuming the entire national supply of integrated circuits.

jaspersgroove,

And a 2 MHz processor lol

Cyanogenmon, do games w Wise words from Master
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EVERY entry in the MGS series from ps1 onward in its entirety (minus Survive) is one of those “if only I could play it for then first time again” games.

Have you ever played them or is this your first time through the series?

Silvia,
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Boldly diving into the series for the first time! I needed something different, and I figured “Fuck it, Metal Gear time. I’ve been wanting to try it for a long time. Snake was one of my mains in Smash.” lol
Anyway, obviously i’ve heard PLENTY about the series, but thankfully in casual conversation, most people dont talk about story details, so im pretty blank on twists and turns.

Cyanogenmon,
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Yeah extremely jealous of that lol. Enjoy the ride, it’s a wild one.

Cethin,

In case you aren’t aware, there’s also Metal Gear (1&2) for the NES. Most people just ignore those because they aren’t nearly as good, but they’re the start of the series. If you want more, they’re there.

Silvia,
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I knew about them, i tried 1 and… well, it’s a little too far back for me. I don’t care for too many NES era games, apart from a few JRPGs

sundray, do gaming w Nintendo Power's old instructions for taking a "screenshot"

I actually followed this guide back in the day! I never got my photo published in the mag though.

Kolanaki, do gaming w The people who made these back in the day are heroes
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I remember printing these out, too. They were usually hundreds of pages. And we still had a printer that used paper with the holes on the side. Shit took forever. Just grrrntchchgrrrntchchgrrrntchchgrrrntchch (printer sounds) all day.

woodenskewer,
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We didn’t have a printer so I would print them out at school or the library and bring them home lol

CptEnder,

Me too!!! OMG brings back so many memories

seriousconsideration, do games w Gameplay mechanics were also a lot better with more replayability.

I love my old school games and will never stop playing SNES, 64, PS1, and PS2, but there were plenty of crap games on those systems too. Just like how indies and Minecraft and Soulsbornes right now are dope as hell, but everyone complains about Ubisoft and EA so much you’d think that they were the only publishers in the 2020s. There’s been solid titles and shovelwware every single generation ever since the Atari 2600. Also, the games that a lot of us grew up playing that have gone down as “the best games of all time” like FF7 and Goldeneye would be considered borderline unplayable by kids today.

BRING BACK MANUALS.

darkpanda,

Give Tunic a try. The in-game manual is a central piece of its overall puzzle.

TwilightVulpine,

Tunic is great! The dev said he wanted to replicate the experience of playing a game in a different language that you don’t quite understand at first, and he made it perfectly. English is my second language, and it reminded me of the times trying to play games before I understood it, struggling with manuals and dictionaries.

The special edition comes with a physical manual, but ironically the player shouldn’t open it until they 100% the game. It’s like a spoiler.

uis,

If you want to read some manual you know where you can.

PersnickityPenguin,

Manuals?

Don’t you like logging into the same game 6 months later and the entire game mechanic and progression system have been changed???

Xanis,

Most people don’t know about, or don’t remember, the old bins filled to the brim with garbageware games. Back when shit was still the wild west and people were releasing crap left and right.

ICastFist, do gaming w I may have said this before...
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This kind of talk always reminds me of Josh Strife. If memory serves, if what you’re doing in the game in the first few hours isn’t fun or entertaining, it’s unlikely that it’ll be after 100 hours, because it’s very likely that you’ll keep repeating the same activities for all those hours and beyond. What usually happens is that you just get used to it, plus sunk cost fallacy gets stronger the longer you play.

LemmyRefugee,

I also love that video.

wh0se, do gaming w Just fuck off back to ranked already

I’m surprised nobody mentioned GTA Online. I find it unplayable since turbo bike jets are flying everywhere and firing missiles from a kilometre away.

And the goal isn’t even to kill players.

Stamets,
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It was unplayable at launch and I don’t mean the insane server problems. I started playing GTO launch weekend and it was never good. Sure we didn’t have the insane vehicles and weapons of later GTO but people had more than enough. Every server had at least one dude with a Rhino and one dude with a Hydra. I was the dude with the Hydra but my targets were dudes with Rhinos who went after random players. After a while doing it I realized it was every Rhino. People just get bored and start using the powerful stuff on randoms just because they can.

Was always toxic as hell, it was just unaffordable for most people in game. When they gave larger variety on the cheap it just made it worse.

dumpsterlid,

If you look into your heart and realize what you really loved about GTA online was playing it as a multiplayer open world driving game, check out Motor Town. It’s like if GTA side quest driving jobs were fleshed out into an entire game. Or like if old school Top Gear made a Euro Truck Simulator game.

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