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djsoren19, do gaming w Modders have really thought of everything, huh?

I mean, Windhelm is basically the equivalent of the Texas Secessionist Movement, so they’re just trying to make it accurate to the lore.

SpaceNoodle, do gaming w How times change

NTSC is 30 fps.

Album,
@Album@lemmy.ca avatar

The console ran at 60 on NTSC, and 50 for PAL. Divide by two to get the standard.

PumpkinEscobar,

Cuz interlacing

RightHandOfIkaros,

The Super Nintendo’s interlaced video mode was basically never ever used. It could output 60Hz and more than often did.

Only some games had limited framerate for various reasons, such as Another World being limited by cartridge ram or Star Fox being limited by the power of the SuperFX. Yoshis Island also used the SuperFX and wasn’t limited like Star Fox was. Occasionally there was slowdown if a developer put too much on screen at once, but these were momentary and similar to today when a game hitches while trying to load a new area during gameplay.

9point6,

Kinda but also kinda 60

SpaceNoodle,

Interlacing is trash

partial_accumen,

Interlacing is native on CRT displays, which is what SNES was made for.

SpaceNoodle,

Yes, hence my comments.

Blue_Morpho,

Interlacing is native to US broadcast TV. Crt’s don’t have to be interlaced. Computer CRT’s were rarely interlaced.

partial_accumen,

Okay fine, be particular and ignore the context. Interlacing is native on CRT displays WHEN DISPLAYING NTSC OR PAL, which is what SNES was made for.

Blue_Morpho,

I’m just being nitpicky because you are using CRT interchangeably with Television. CRT’s are used in TV’s but aren’t interlaced unless the circuitry around them sends interlaced. So no, interlacing is not native on CRT’s when receiving an interlaced signal. If I plugged a Nintendo into my old ViewSonic CRT, I wouldn’t get a signal because it didn’t support NTSC interlaced input.

It’s like saying interlacing is native on LCDs. LCD TVs are interlaced, not LCDs.

partial_accumen,

I’m just being nitpicky because you are using CRT interchangeably with Television.

That was intentional on my part because of the audience and good communication. You’re technically correct, but without a paragraph of tangential and irrelevant explanation your audience isn’t going to understand you. Modern parlance usage of “television” isn’t the CRT appliance, its any appliance that shows the moving pictures and sound content of television programming. If you walk into any store today and buy a TV, you’re going to get an LCD, AMOLED, or quantum dot display. None of those are CRTs, yet everyone born after about 2002 will associate a TV or Television with a flat panel non-CRT display.

So no, interlacing is not native on CRT’s when receiving an interlaced signal.

And in nobody’s mind was the vision of plugging a SNES into a computer monitor CRT. You introduced that idea only to show how its wrong. You win at pedantry, but lose at communication.

If someone says to you “I’m watching TV”, do you poke your head around the back of the unit to make sure it has a tuner in it and if it doesn’t you quip back to correct them “You’re not actually watching a TV, you’re watching a monitor. A TV requires a tuner, which this unit does not have, making it a monitor, not a TV”?

Blue_Morpho,

If you were trying for good communication you would have said, "Interlacing is native on TV’s which is what the SNES was made for. "

Everyone knows what a TV is.

HEXN3T,
@HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

NTSC is 59.94hz ???

SpaceNoodle,

Interlaced

refurbishedrefurbisher,

It is 59.94 fields per second, translating into 29.97 FPS. Interlaced video is fun. Reason why it’s not a round 60 or 30 FPS is due to maintaining compatibility with black and white sets.

240p uses each field as a frame, though, while still maintaining compatibility with NTSC. This is what most consoles pre-6th generation uses (same with PAL, but 288p at 50 FPS)

refurbishedrefurbisher,

At 480i. SNES used 240p, which is technically not standard NTSC, but compatible. Nintendo called this “double strike”, since each field would display in the same location.

SpaceNoodle,

Interesting.

ShortFuse,

Even interlaced it’s still 60 frames per second.

Sure they were technically 30 “fields” per second, but most games updated 60 times a second, even SMB on NES. You only saw one half of what the internal console rendered which is an output issue, not a rendering one.

Add on 480p and you get both 60 frames and 60 fields per second

brokenlcd, do gaming w How times change

If we need to get into this kind of debate; may i remember everyone that the computer that brought humanity on the moon had 2k of ram

RightHandOfIkaros,

That was a lot of RAM for the time though.

IWantToFuckSpez,

Well yeah that computer didn’t had to hold Aldrin’s porn collection in memory.

DragonTypeWyvern,

He brought the physicals!

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I watched the moon landing at 60fps on a TV that cost me $80.

Why can’t I play max resolution BG3 at this framerate?

Aux,

Because the moon landing was rendered by the TV station and your TV only showed the end result. You can do the same with GeForce NOW or other streaming service.

mkwt,

And for several years that one program was consuming the entire national supply of integrated circuits.

jaspersgroove,

And a 2 MHz processor lol

runswithjedi, do gaming w How times change

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  • DragonTypeWyvern,

    I’m shocked that a meme creator that used Soldier Boy as the Glorious Past had nostalgia goggles on!

    Ok, well, not that shocked, but honestly I don’t remember it happening either.

    ouRKaoS,

    The cart sequence in the Armored Armadillo stage of Megaman X drops to like 1FPS if you get enough sprites on the screen.

    Ephera, do gaming w Modders have really thought of everything, huh?

    I did feel like they went a bit light on the racism in Skyrim, too. In Morrowind, you’d get called the N-word multiple times a day.

    XEAL, (edited ) do gaming w Modders have really thought of everything, huh?

    Almost 14k people triggered…

    Edit: As OP said, it’s downloads, no downvotes

    The_Picard_Maneuver,
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t use mods much, so I’m purely guessing, but could that be the downloads?

    XEAL,

    Ah, you may indeed be right.

    VaultBoyNewVegas,

    Yep. Downloads, the thumbs up is endorsements so basically one is how many people recommend it and the other is how many accounts have downloaded it.

    PugJesus, do gaming w Modders have really thought of everything, huh?
    @PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

    Well, better than the other kind of racism I see modders indulging in.

    ech,

    ItsTheSameRacism.meme

    glimse, (edited )

    Unless this mod adds the N word, t’s really not. There’s a lot of racism in the elders scrolls universes that is there for worldbuilding as opposed to thinly-veiled stereotypes of real races like in Harry Potter*. Pretty much every race has issues with the others just like they would in the real life equivalent of the time period.

    It’s not at all the same as other mods which add real world bigotry into the game

    *One could argue that Khajiits are analogous to the Romani people but it’s a stretch

    Big_Boss_77, do games w Wise words from Master

    You’re pretty good.

    Felipe, do games w Wise words from Master

    I’d love to able to experience MGS2 for the first time again, you’re in for a treat.

    Yokozuna, do games w Wise words from Master

    I also just re-played through this, mgs1 is a fantastic game for so many reasons. It brought me back to when games were meant to be fun and not a grind fest.

    I would also like to say maybe take the downtime you have now and play through the VR missions for 2, they add a lot in when it comes to functions of sneaking and playing those will really make you aware of the tools at your disposal, that’s currently what I’m doing when I feel like it.

    Cyanogenmon, do games w Wise words from Master
    @Cyanogenmon@lemmy.world avatar

    EVERY entry in the MGS series from ps1 onward in its entirety (minus Survive) is one of those “if only I could play it for then first time again” games.

    Have you ever played them or is this your first time through the series?

    Silvia,
    @Silvia@lemmy.world avatar

    Boldly diving into the series for the first time! I needed something different, and I figured “Fuck it, Metal Gear time. I’ve been wanting to try it for a long time. Snake was one of my mains in Smash.” lol
    Anyway, obviously i’ve heard PLENTY about the series, but thankfully in casual conversation, most people dont talk about story details, so im pretty blank on twists and turns.

    Cyanogenmon,
    @Cyanogenmon@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah extremely jealous of that lol. Enjoy the ride, it’s a wild one.

    Cethin,

    In case you aren’t aware, there’s also Metal Gear (1&2) for the NES. Most people just ignore those because they aren’t nearly as good, but they’re the start of the series. If you want more, they’re there.

    Silvia,
    @Silvia@lemmy.world avatar

    I knew about them, i tried 1 and… well, it’s a little too far back for me. I don’t care for too many NES era games, apart from a few JRPGs

    birbs, do games w Wise words from Master

    I just started playing MGS for the first time! When I was a kid MGS was one of those “grown up” games I couldn’t play. I picked up a copy from a retro game store a few weeks ago and finally sat down to play at the weekend. I see what all the hype is about, it’s like diving into a 90s espionage thriller. Looking forward to playing further!

    Silvia,
    @Silvia@lemmy.world avatar

    Enjoy! :)

    NounsAndWords,

    Enjoy it, I wish I could go back and play MGS1 for the first time again. Such a good game.

    Lesrid,

    It was my first Rated M game and it set the bar impossibly high

    jballs,
    @jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I wish I could go back and fight Psychomantis for the first time

    Cethin,

    When I was a kid a babysitter I had brought MGS1 and played it. It always stuck in my mind and later got me to try the series and I loved it. The portion I saw included the >!jail cell and using the ketchup to get out.!< No other game was doing things like MGS at the time.

    I must have been around 5/6 at the time. Its safe to say that game wasn’t appropriate, but it really showed what gaming could be.

    Edit: added spoiler tag. I hope no one saw that who shouldn’t have. I forgot that despite talking about a ~26 year old game that it’s in a thread for people just now playing it.

    dm_me_your_boobs, do games w Wise words from Master

    How’d you enjoy the fight with Mantis? Please tell me you went into that blind.

    Silvia,
    @Silvia@lemmy.world avatar

    Sadly no, too many damn lists, “top 10 details in gaming”, and other such things like that to avoid the spoilers lol. But, i sat back and enjoyed the game as not only a “game” but a little piece of gaming history and DAMN, MGS is very ahead of it’s time in style, meta references, and presentation. I couldn’t stop a big dumb grin spreading on my face when

    spoilerthe screen blacked out with a green “Hideo” in the corner in Mantis’s fight.

    (Mantis fight spoilers) I even loved the little deathtraps in the game, trap doors in the floor, bullshit little gun turrets hidden around corners… but my dumb ass likes Fatal Labyrinth on the Genesis, so do with that as you will XD

    Nibodhika,

    I imagine you played the remaster on Steam, how did you defeat him though? In the original

    spoilerYou had to plug your controller on the Player 2 slot so that Psychomantis couldn’t read your mind.

    And that seems hard to reproduce the feeling on a PC while still giving everyone a chance to win the fight

    Silvia,
    @Silvia@lemmy.world avatar

    spoilerThere’s a setting in the Master Collection’s options menu that let you mess with controller settings, and one of those settings is connect as P2

    JoMomma, do games w Wise words from Master

    Snake?..Snake…?..Snaaaaaaaake!!!

    Silvia,
    @Silvia@lemmy.world avatar

    (EA logo voice guy) M G S, It’s in the genes

    essell,

    M S G: it’s in the noodles

    p03locke,
    @p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    <delay the time to hit Continue for comedic effect>

    BANG!

    Corno, do gaming w Don't mind if I do

    I’ve never been good at stealth games, I just brute force my way through everything 😂 I remember that Yiga Clan hideout part of Zelda Breath of the Wild, on my first playthrough I ended up triggering the blademasters to appear in every room and I just killed them one by one

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