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dangblingus, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

Culture warriors would rather play a mid rpg at $80 than admit that JK Rowling is a bigot who is bad at world building.

Silentiea,

She is a terrible bigot, and a loud one, and that sucks because she also produced a cultural phenomenon of my childhood, and while the canon of HP is only just barely pretty okay sometimes, it spiralled out from there and SO MUCH of the media and culture I’ve consumed and existed within since then has been informed by it.

So yeah. If there’s any comfort, let it be that any money she gets from this comes from explicitly affirming a trans woman through the work, as well as implicitly affirming any trans players through the character creation options. Small comfort maybe, but she is far away.

Zahille7,

That’s how I justified it to myself.

That, and there was an entire team of people working on this game for years, trying to make it the best vision of theirs as well as making it fit within the pre established world.

java, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

Oh no somebody doesn’t like trans people, let’s shit in comments about a moderately related game for like forever /s

You want acceptance, but you can’t accept the fact that somebody disagrees with you. That’s pathetic.

xor,

“Moderately related” as in “written by and with royalties paid to”

People, and trans people especially, absolutely have good reason to not want to buy a product that directly funds a person who is actively hostile to their existence.

You can’t deal with critical comments from a community who are directly affected by the actions of a major stakeholder? That’s pathetic.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

what has she even said exactly about trans people, ‘actively hostile to their existence’ sounds like shes called for genocide???

i_ben_fine,

stupid sealioning.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

for anyone else who hasnt heard this term before:

Sealioning Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.

does that sum up what you think i said lmao?

i_ben_fine,

Yeah, you’re doing that in this thread. Pretty good example.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

me when i expect everyone to be up to date on everything at all times that i care about.

rainynight65,

She actively campaigns against trans rights and has said that if you buy her stuff, you support her position.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

shes wrong about the second part if she said that, it just means you dont care enough about their position (/ them) to stop you or you believe in art ≠ artist. about the first part, it’s too vague for me to take a stance on. if shes called for their deaths thats horrific. if she said that trans minors should get a 40 minute psych checkup before irreversible surgery, i couldnt care less.

rainynight65,

I suggest you do your own research then. From everything I’ve read, JKR is a horrible person and virulently anti-trans. There are a lot of ways to br horrific without outright calling for people’s deaths.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

i dont put that much weight on some random authors societal takes to research them. if shes calling to take away trans peoples votes or for them to be removed from the work force or something insane thats wrong. if shes just saying ‘idc about peoples preferred pronouns’ i couldnt gaf, shes one person of billions, so what honestly.

rainynight65,

She’s one person influencing millions, if not billions, that’s for sure. She’s not some random author, she is one of the most well known personalities of the 20th and 21st century. Her opinions carry weight, as misguided as that may be on the part of her followers.

I’d partially agree with you if we were talking about some random who has sold a few hundred kindle copies of their book on Amazon and is spewing nonsense. And even then I’d call for people to not support that author in any way shape or form. JKR is however hugely influential, and that absolutely should matter when it comes to deciding who you give your money to.

The_Sasswagon,

First: she doesn’t need to say anything specifically or explicitly to be a transphobe actively hostile to the existence of trans people.

Second: she says things and creates spaces that are very specifically and explicitly hostile to the existence of trans people.

Third: she associates with and collaborates with people who openly advocate for “reductions in trans people”.

Honestly I could go through my understanding of her issue, but many people have spoken at great length about why her behavior is harmful. If you’re truly interested seek them out.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

‘hostile to the existence of trans people’ “reductions in trans people”

either she genuinely wants genocide or youre being intentuonally misleading, this sounds like hitler describing jews.

apotheotic,

She basically wants genocide, yes. The person you’re replying to was accurate.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

thats horrible but if so thats totally illegal and she’d be imprisoned, can you provide a source.

apotheotic,

You can search up “jk Rowling transphobic” or “jk Rowling anti trans” and you’ll find a plethora of sources yourself, this isn’t really a controversial thing. She’s the most well loved transphobe in the world.

apotheotic,

You’re on the beehaw instance, bee nice.

It makes absolute sense that people are passionately against this game, which puts money directly in the pockets of not only a very vocal transphobe with a huge following-but one who actively finances anti-trans causes. The game itsself has its own incredibly problematic issues, but I focus on the transphobia because that’s what your comment was concerned with.

Quite frankly, yes, we want acceptance. But “acceptance” of trans people as people who have human rights should be the bare minimum. That is in no way comparable to pushing back against this game, or pushing back against JKR.

dangblingus,

Ya. I choose not to support bigots whenever possible. Im such a loser.

reactive_recall, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better

What’s the game shown in the thumbnail?

Cavemanfreak,

FF VII

Secret300, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better

I think that’s a good idea. There are so many games coming out all the time and if they spend more resources on a single game it’ll be better. Right?

CptEnder,

Eh. Hopefully this doesn’t include their 2DHD department. Those are probably classified as low budget but are by far and away the best games they make rn.

Amaltheamannen, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

Would have tried it out if the author wasn’t a transphobic piece of shit. Might pirate it.

HerbalGamer,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

I did. it was alright. Worth it if you want to explore hogwarts and surroundings.

jonsnothere,

It’s not worth it, and while the transphobia is absent, the antisemitism is still there

rainynight65,

Also, the erstwhile lead designer was a far right agitator.

SchizoDenji,

Might pirate it.

Wait till you learn about who cracked that game.

FluffyPotato,

Oh yea Empress may be the most transphobic person alive currently

SchizoDenji,

Not even close tbh. There are middle eastern states that kill Trans people.

FluffyPotato,

I’m pretty sure that if she had the power to do so she would have deathsquads going after anyone remotely suspected of being trans. I was in her telegram group just to watch the crazy unfold and she is absolutely batshit and hates trans people with a burning passion.

Microplasticbrain,

Wtf is wrong with people

DumbAceDragon, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller
@DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works avatar

Tbh that’s a low bar to pass. The newest CoD flopped pretty bad and Rockstar has been too busy with GTA6. Almost every other notable release was either a flop or a smaller studio or indie title.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

While that might be true, 2023 was an year filled with great games and yet Hogwarts Legacy is first, and Call of Duty is 2nd.

As for notable games of the year that weren’t flop (in no particular order):

  • Spider-Man 2
  • Baldur’s Gate 3
  • Diablo IV
  • FF 16
  • Armored Core 6
  • Street Fighter 6
  • Alan Wake 2

Not to mention:

  • Resident Evil 4 Remake
  • Dead Space Remake

They may not be to your taste, but they all rated very highly. I haven’t included any Nintendo games, cause they don’t share digital data. Their numbers are based only on physical sales.

DumbAceDragon,
@DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s actually fair. I barely pay attention to AAA gaming to begin with, so most of these games just weren’t on my radar. I just thought “oh, Starfield was the big hyped flop of the year, of course there wasn’t much AAA competition”

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

No worries. Of all the games mentioned above Starfield was probably my most anticipated. But it let people down.

cbarrick,

Those Nintendo releases this year we’re bangers:

  • Tears of the Kingdom
  • Super Mario Wonder
  • Pikmin 4
  • Super Mario RPG Remake
  • Metroid Prime Remastered

Plus the DLCs for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe came out this year.

Great year for gaming IMO. But yeah, all of these are niche enough that I wouldn’t expect any of them to be top sellers.

On the other hand, I know at least one non-gamer that got a Switch just to play Hogwarts Legacy.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Well, Mario has kind of a general appeal, so I won’t call it a niche (and it was in 12th with just physical sale). And Pikmin 4 also sold over 2 Million in just first month or so, IIRC, though not sure if that’s enough for being a top seller in a year like the one we just had.

Also, Tears of the Kingdom was on 5th overall sales, and that’s only with the physical sales. Don’t know the actual number difference between 1st and 5th, but with digital added, it could’ve at least entered top 3, if not gone for 1st.

Caligvla, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games

Oh please, go ahead, your garbage won’t be missed!

Pratai, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

Might have to check this out!

Omega_Haxors, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

A racist a transphobe and an antisemite walk into a bar. The bartender looks up and says “aren’t you that girl who wrote HP?”

JQ Lolling stares unflinchingly ahead and states “Your teacher, Professor Eleazar Fig, dies at the end of Hogwarts Legacy. This happens in all possible endings and can’t be changed. Oh and Rookwood is the one who cursed Anne while the goblins were framed. Also, you’re also required to quell a slave uprising and you have no choice in the matter.”

BumpingFuglies, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better

indie

You keep using that word, AAA developer/publisher Square Enix. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Haha, they probably means the smaller games they release. Like that “Various Daylife”, what to call these games? They aren’t AAA or AA.

PhiAU, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

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  • ShortN0te,

    Hogwarts Legacy is not Game of the year…

    TubeTalkerX, do gaming w Square Enix Wants To Make Fewer Games – New CEO Takashi Kiryu wants to focus on making AAA and indie titles and marketing those titles better

    Yeah that’s working out so well for the big Hollywood Studios. Put all their eggs in 1 or 2 Big Summer Blockbusters and hope they pay off.

    marxistsynths19, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

    I can’t believe this made so made so much money. If I had a pc, I still wouldn’t pirate it. Millennials need to collectively get over Harry Potter.

    Kecessa,

    Millennials? Kids under 10 still go batshit for it!

    pearsaltchocolatebar,

    I can absolutely believe it made that much money.

    Grass,

    The youngest millennials should be in their 30s. I doubt enough of them have the time or money for this to blame the whole generation.

    Pratai,

    Sorry, are the neighborhood kids on your yard again?

    richmondez,

    Yeah people really need to stop having fun in ways I disapprove of, totally with you on that.

    GreyEyedGhost,

    I’ve seen the movies and read the books, and I’m not a millenial. I also don’t have time to play all the games I’d like to, so I can take a pass on supporting the person spreading hate and occupy my time playing something else, instead.

    KeenFlame,

    Another way of saying you have deep empathic issues

    iAmTheTot, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller
    @iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

    Been waiting to pick it up cheap second hand. Not interested in financially supporting it.

    newcool1230,

    Just… pirate it… 🦜

    iAmTheTot,
    @iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

    Honestly, considered it even though I haven't pirated a game in like twenty years. But when I found out the the person who cracked the game is also a hateful bigot, I didn't even want to download their work. Nah, I'll buy it second hand.

    angrytoadnoises, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller
    @angrytoadnoises@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    HogLeg’s success is pretty crazy if you think about it. Ignoring the sales we’ve looking at today, take yourself back to the launch of HogLeg. It kept up pace with Fallout 4 in terms of active players and achievement completion rates. This is huge to me. They’re both singleplayer RPGs, so they’re both vying for the same type of audience. *But.*Fallout 4 was a hugely anticipated sequel to one of the most renowned series in all of gaming. Harry Potter had almost no presence in gaming beyond nostalgic shovel ware titles.

    Fallout 4 was developed by gaming darlings, a company known for producing huge open worlds with strong volumes of content. HogLeg was developed by shovelware developers with no major releases in their history.

    Fallout 4 is a first person looter shooter, one of the most ubiquitous and successful genres out there. HogLeg is an action roleplaying game, still admittedly a safe genre but doesn’t have the genre conventions that makes it possible for anyone with FPS experience to pick up a Fallout.

    And finally, Fallout 4 targeted gamers. It’s a gamer’s game, you know? It’s for lore nerds and RPG fans and tacticool nuts and all the rest. HogLeg was for Harry Potter fans. It needed to drag fans across media types to secure a big enough audience.

    I truly, truly did not expect HogLeg to find the success it has. And to be honest, it’s quite a mid game! It’s a visual accomplishment and adherence to the universe means that it’s a treat for any Harry Potter nerds, but the rest of the game is as close as generic as it could get.

    BarrierWithAshes,
    @BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social avatar

    Wow. Good comparison. Didn't realize how close they were. In both being average games too.

    SkyNTP,

    And finally, Fallout 4 targeted gamers. It’s a gamer’s game, you know? It’s for lore nerds and RPG fans and tacticool nuts and all the rest. HogLeg was for Harry Potter fans. It needed to drag fans across media types to secure a big enough audience.

    This is… perhaps, the very formula for its success. Perhaps the gaming crowd isn’t that big. Perhaps, HL was not chained to a particular demographic and instead had the freedom to appeal to a wider audience.

    I know of people who picked up a controller for the first time in their life because HL was a Harry Potter game… just saying.

    WitchHazel,

    Yeah, I feel like their logic is circular. Choosing to actively ignore the fact that the game is based off one of the most popular book series in the entire world is frustratingly dense, and feels like they’re stanning for the sake of it. From what I understand, the game is ridiculously repetitive, and is genuinely riding solely off of the popularity of the book series.

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