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NightOwl, do gaming w Epic Games Admits In Court That Its PC Store Still Isn't Profitable

They started out pissing off Steam users with Metro Exodus going exclusives and pulling it from Steam. Not a great first impression and a lasting one at that. Not everyone will care and will buy from epic, but alienating a whole bunch of Steam’s core users off the bat is probably going to ensure they’ll never win them over.

I claim games from epic and have bought from even origin and uplay, but I’ll probably never spend any money at epic.

thingsiplay, do gaming w So, Uh, What's Up With The Steam Awards?
@thingsiplay@kbin.social avatar

People will never be satisfied with awards. Let the community choose? You get popularity contest. Let the review outlets choose? Then you get only a certain kind of games to win the contest. Steam is very community focused in most of their recommendations and in this case, awards. This has ups and downs and sometimes its stupid. In case of RDR2 who knows what the reason was why they chose this game. It might be an attempt to troll in mass. Or a misunderstanding.

I take awards as one kind of view and never in isolation. Context matters. So I ignore those where I think it is stupid awards, like Starfield and RDR2, and look at the other candidates. And the other categories as well. And then move on with my life. Just like with the other award shows. Who cares what game won what award? It rarely impacts my choice.

all-knight-party, do gaming w So, Uh, What's Up With The Steam Awards?
@all-knight-party@kbin.run avatar

I feel as if the Starfield and RDR2 awards almost have to be sarcastically awarded.

Rayspekt,

The Starfield one has to be a result of sarcasm, there's no way. I burst with laughter when I saw that one.

WHYAREWEALLCAPS, do gaming w Whoa, Alan Wake II’s PC Requirements Aren’t Screwing Around

Not worried. Being an Epic exclusive, I have zero interest in playing this game.

conciselyverbose, do gaming w You Can Now Play Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2 Offline, But There's A Catch

What a douche move lol.

It would be less disrespectful just to leave the steamdeck version equally fucked than to openly slap people in the face with "it's arbitrary, but fuck you".

atrielienz, (edited ) do games w Ori Studio Head Says Review Bombing Might Force Studio Closure, Then Takes It All Back

Takes it all back because A. There was no review bombing, people who left mixed reviews had reasonable and valid complaints, and B. He reversed course as soon as people started pointing out how he was protesting quite a lot about exactly nobody calling him a Nazi.

gusgalarnyk, do games w Ori Studio Head Says Review Bombing Might Force Studio Closure, Then Takes It All Back

I assumed pretty immediately upon hearing him in a couple of interviews that he was exactly this right winger camoflaughing as a centralist. I gave the game the benefit of the doubt because I hadn’t seen any hard evidence but I’ll stop talking kindly about the game based on this info.

Politics is how we organize our society. Most of everything is political. When society starts organizing movements against groups of people, stripping away rights, and generally being Nazis you have to get more political to stop them. Taking no position is taking a position. Join the rebellion or support the empire, there is no in-between.

Cris16228, do games w Ori Studio Head Says Review Bombing Might Force Studio Closure, Then Takes It All Back

Awwww and I wanted to buy and play them :(

Nikls94,

👒 🏴‍☠️ 🌊 🚢 you can still play them Arrr

Oughtakyk,

This is the way 🦜

Cris16228,

That’s when I wear the pirate hat but still! I saw a bundle with the first game :(

supernight52, do games w Ori Studio Head Says Review Bombing Might Force Studio Closure, Then Takes It All Back

“These days, apparently anyone who doesn’t include five trans characters in their game and doesn’t let their products be influenced by political bullshit is a Nazi. What a world we live in.”

And like that I will not buy anything by this studio ever. Mahler is a whiny bitch baby.

7112,

This does more damage than the actual review bombs for me

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

yea for real… like I didn’t even know it /was/ being review bombed, but as an avid fan of the Ori series… this puts a real sour taste in my mouth

catalyst,
@catalyst@lemmy.world avatar

Yeaaaah, I’m with you. What a wild comment to make. I was ready to give them the benefit of the doubt that the whole review bombing drama was just a case of having a bad day but this is something else.

Essence_of_Meh, (edited )
@Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world avatar

He had more of similar comments throughout the years so… yeah. He’s also known for poor management and causing toxic work environment to the point Microsoft decided to cut ties with the studio.
Just in case someone thought these are just some out of context or one-time “jokes”/missteps.

Heck, here are some bonus links for good measure:

AntiBullyRanger,

So then I was correct to spot the plea for positive review bombing his game. Two shades for Machiavellianing your workers, three for us.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

Yup.

I want to say we all found out he was a piece of shit in the lead up to Ori 2? Very much led to a lot of outlets doing the “The game is good but up to you if you want to support this kind of worker abuse”. And he just got worse and worse since.

Essence_of_Meh,
@Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world avatar

I want to say we all found out he was a piece of shit in the lead up to Ori 2?

Eh, not necessarily? I’m sure there are plenty of people who just play the games and aren’t in the know of any drama going on behind the scenes. Heck, I’m pretty tuned in into what’s going on in the industry and while I remember hearing some of this stuff back in the day most of it faded away since I wasn’t particularly interested in the series.

I think it’s better to remind folks about these situations than assume everyone is familiar with what’s going on.

draconik,

I personally love the games and had no clue this drama existed. Kind of regret buying these games now

Essence_of_Meh,
@Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world avatar

You already played the games, you enjoy them - it is what it is. There’s no point in beating yourself over (not) doing something without knowledge about the circumstances. No one is omnipotent and can avoid supporting every single shitty person out there. Just have fun with what you like and don’t support the guy in the future, that’s the best one can do in such situation in my opinion.

Oughtakyk,

Same here, if there’s any plan to continue the series count me out

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don’t regret buying them, they are good games, but I don’t Condone shitty practices. If you restricted yourself to moral or ethic right companies only you would have nothing to buy sadly. You buying a game != you accepting the ideologies of the leadership of said game.

Just get games you know you enjoy, and ignore all the dramatics that are involved. Life’s to short to lock yourself down with it all.

LandedGentry, (edited )

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  • supernight52,

    It’s a quote from the article about his response to this situation.

    catloaf,

    There was no review bombing.

    FooBarrington,

    Oh shit, thanks for bringing this up. Will definitely never buy a game from this studio again!

    LostWanderer,

    Oof, yep this really does damage to my intention to buy his game more than ‘review bombing’ often you can tell if there is something fundamentally wrong with a game or not based on the actual content of reviews…Or if users are pushing for an adjustment. If there is a whisper of a trans or gay character in a game, there is so much pushback, so I don’t know what the fuck he is on about; Mahler is such a whiny snowflake, that probably needs to take his medication because his post history is looking a little sus. Like he unplugged from reality for a few minutes.

    SkunkWorkz,

    And

    The confusing rant then rather radically changed subject to talk about how he doesn’t want to take sides in the illegal Russian invasion of Ukraine

    And

    In 2022, https://venturebeat.com/games/despite-its-beautiful-ori-games-moon-studio-is-called-an-oppressive-place-to-work/ that staff working for Moon Studios had told the outlet about a culture of “casual racism, sexism and bullying,” describing it as “an oppressive workplace.”

    ChickenAndRice,
    @ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Oh damn. I was going to get the Ori games but will spend my money elsewhere. Thanks for the heads up.

    Nikls94,

    🏴‍☠️ them instead

    mrodri89, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'

    Im happy. Best state the game has been in and can only get better from here.

    eugenevdebs, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'

    Blizzard probably allowed it because Overwatch is bleeding player count, and then can use the union as “proof” that that unions harm the bottom line.

    I’m happy for them and I hope they can do something on even across other titles/teams, but I suspect Blizzard didn’t hire the Pinkertons like Amazon for a reason.

    Angry_Autist, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'

    Only a decade too late

    Genius, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'

    Hopefully the union can crack down on the frat culture they have there. No more stolen breast milk please

    Poopfeast420,
    @Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    I think the OW team was already pretty good in that regard, and Jeff Kaplan tried to “protect” them, even if that didn’t always result in the best decisions for the game.

    Angry_Autist,

    Narrator: It won’t

    You really have no idea how deep this runs at Blizzard

    rigatti, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'
    @rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

    Since the other person came in and tried to act cool or something by only caring about how it affects them (or doesn’t affect them?), I just want to put it out there that the OW team has been making lots of improvements to the game lately. The last patch added a new core game mode that has been pretty popular, along with a new hero, and they’ve reimplemented 6v6 which has been a complaint of a large portion of the playerbase since they went to 5v5 a few years ago.

    So, contrary to that other person, I am happy for the OW team for unionizing, and I hope that Blizzard doesn’t do anything to stifle the progress that they have been making lately because they have now unionized.

    turkalino,

    Yeah, the team has been in a good bargaining position because the higher-ups are seeing OW players switching to Marvel Rivals in droves and realizing that they need to start listening to people who actually know what they’re talking about. Props to the team for sensing this is a good time to gain some ground and unionize

    Elevator7009,

    I don’t care about Overwatch but I am happy for the devs and hope this leads to more unionization in the video game industry.

    rigatti,
    @rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah that’s a very fair statement to make.

    Eyck_of_denesle,

    Lemmy users try not to say “I don’t care” challenge. Lvl impossible. Seriously why does every mainstream entertainment post has one guy talking about how he doesn’t care. Lol. Holy boomers on this app.

    Genius,

    I don’t care about anything 😎

    These users are time travellers from the 90s, please be nice to them

    Angry_Autist,

    ‘I don’t care’ isn’t boomers, that’s GenX and fuck you for getting us mixed up

    Seriously, fuck you

    miguel, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'
    @miguel@fedia.io avatar

    That's excellent news. Good for them

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