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supernight52, do games w Ori Studio Head Says Review Bombing Might Force Studio Closure, Then Takes It All Back

“These days, apparently anyone who doesn’t include five trans characters in their game and doesn’t let their products be influenced by political bullshit is a Nazi. What a world we live in.”

And like that I will not buy anything by this studio ever. Mahler is a whiny bitch baby.

7112,

This does more damage than the actual review bombs for me

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

yea for real… like I didn’t even know it /was/ being review bombed, but as an avid fan of the Ori series… this puts a real sour taste in my mouth

catalyst,
@catalyst@lemmy.world avatar

Yeaaaah, I’m with you. What a wild comment to make. I was ready to give them the benefit of the doubt that the whole review bombing drama was just a case of having a bad day but this is something else.

Essence_of_Meh, (edited )
@Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world avatar

He had more of similar comments throughout the years so… yeah. He’s also known for poor management and causing toxic work environment to the point Microsoft decided to cut ties with the studio.
Just in case someone thought these are just some out of context or one-time “jokes”/missteps.

Heck, here are some bonus links for good measure:

AntiBullyRanger,

So then I was correct to spot the plea for positive review bombing his game. Two shades for Machiavellianing your workers, three for us.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

Yup.

I want to say we all found out he was a piece of shit in the lead up to Ori 2? Very much led to a lot of outlets doing the “The game is good but up to you if you want to support this kind of worker abuse”. And he just got worse and worse since.

Essence_of_Meh,
@Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world avatar

I want to say we all found out he was a piece of shit in the lead up to Ori 2?

Eh, not necessarily? I’m sure there are plenty of people who just play the games and aren’t in the know of any drama going on behind the scenes. Heck, I’m pretty tuned in into what’s going on in the industry and while I remember hearing some of this stuff back in the day most of it faded away since I wasn’t particularly interested in the series.

I think it’s better to remind folks about these situations than assume everyone is familiar with what’s going on.

draconik,

I personally love the games and had no clue this drama existed. Kind of regret buying these games now

Essence_of_Meh,
@Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world avatar

You already played the games, you enjoy them - it is what it is. There’s no point in beating yourself over (not) doing something without knowledge about the circumstances. No one is omnipotent and can avoid supporting every single shitty person out there. Just have fun with what you like and don’t support the guy in the future, that’s the best one can do in such situation in my opinion.

Oughtakyk,

Same here, if there’s any plan to continue the series count me out

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don’t regret buying them, they are good games, but I don’t Condone shitty practices. If you restricted yourself to moral or ethic right companies only you would have nothing to buy sadly. You buying a game != you accepting the ideologies of the leadership of said game.

Just get games you know you enjoy, and ignore all the dramatics that are involved. Life’s to short to lock yourself down with it all.

LandedGentry, (edited )

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  • supernight52,

    It’s a quote from the article about his response to this situation.

    catloaf,

    There was no review bombing.

    FooBarrington,

    Oh shit, thanks for bringing this up. Will definitely never buy a game from this studio again!

    LostWanderer,

    Oof, yep this really does damage to my intention to buy his game more than ‘review bombing’ often you can tell if there is something fundamentally wrong with a game or not based on the actual content of reviews…Or if users are pushing for an adjustment. If there is a whisper of a trans or gay character in a game, there is so much pushback, so I don’t know what the fuck he is on about; Mahler is such a whiny snowflake, that probably needs to take his medication because his post history is looking a little sus. Like he unplugged from reality for a few minutes.

    SkunkWorkz,

    And

    The confusing rant then rather radically changed subject to talk about how he doesn’t want to take sides in the illegal Russian invasion of Ukraine

    And

    In 2022, https://venturebeat.com/games/despite-its-beautiful-ori-games-moon-studio-is-called-an-oppressive-place-to-work/ that staff working for Moon Studios had told the outlet about a culture of “casual racism, sexism and bullying,” describing it as “an oppressive workplace.”

    ChickenAndRice,
    @ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Oh damn. I was going to get the Ori games but will spend my money elsewhere. Thanks for the heads up.

    Nikls94,

    🏴‍☠️ them instead

    atrielienz, (edited ) do games w Ori Studio Head Says Review Bombing Might Force Studio Closure, Then Takes It All Back

    Takes it all back because A. There was no review bombing, people who left mixed reviews had reasonable and valid complaints, and B. He reversed course as soon as people started pointing out how he was protesting quite a lot about exactly nobody calling him a Nazi.

    Cris16228, do games w Ori Studio Head Says Review Bombing Might Force Studio Closure, Then Takes It All Back

    Awwww and I wanted to buy and play them :(

    Nikls94,

    👒 🏴‍☠️ 🌊 🚢 you can still play them Arrr

    Oughtakyk,

    This is the way 🦜

    Cris16228,

    That’s when I wear the pirate hat but still! I saw a bundle with the first game :(

    gusgalarnyk, do games w Ori Studio Head Says Review Bombing Might Force Studio Closure, Then Takes It All Back

    I assumed pretty immediately upon hearing him in a couple of interviews that he was exactly this right winger camoflaughing as a centralist. I gave the game the benefit of the doubt because I hadn’t seen any hard evidence but I’ll stop talking kindly about the game based on this info.

    Politics is how we organize our society. Most of everything is political. When society starts organizing movements against groups of people, stripping away rights, and generally being Nazis you have to get more political to stop them. Taking no position is taking a position. Join the rebellion or support the empire, there is no in-between.

    rigatti, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'
    @rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

    Since the other person came in and tried to act cool or something by only caring about how it affects them (or doesn’t affect them?), I just want to put it out there that the OW team has been making lots of improvements to the game lately. The last patch added a new core game mode that has been pretty popular, along with a new hero, and they’ve reimplemented 6v6 which has been a complaint of a large portion of the playerbase since they went to 5v5 a few years ago.

    So, contrary to that other person, I am happy for the OW team for unionizing, and I hope that Blizzard doesn’t do anything to stifle the progress that they have been making lately because they have now unionized.

    turkalino,

    Yeah, the team has been in a good bargaining position because the higher-ups are seeing OW players switching to Marvel Rivals in droves and realizing that they need to start listening to people who actually know what they’re talking about. Props to the team for sensing this is a good time to gain some ground and unionize

    Elevator7009,

    I don’t care about Overwatch but I am happy for the devs and hope this leads to more unionization in the video game industry.

    rigatti,
    @rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah that’s a very fair statement to make.

    Eyck_of_denesle,

    Lemmy users try not to say “I don’t care” challenge. Lvl impossible. Seriously why does every mainstream entertainment post has one guy talking about how he doesn’t care. Lol. Holy boomers on this app.

    Genius,

    I don’t care about anything 😎

    These users are time travellers from the 90s, please be nice to them

    Angry_Autist,

    ‘I don’t care’ isn’t boomers, that’s GenX and fuck you for getting us mixed up

    Seriously, fuck you

    gradual, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'

    Cool, but it’s not going to make the game any better.

    They’ve been listening to the wrong people for too long.

    rigatti,
    @rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s… not supposed to make the game better? It’s supposed to make working conditions for the team better.

    gradual,

    I never said it was to make the game better, only that it probably won’t which is what’s mostly relevant to me.

    I don’t really have sympathy for people working for blizzard.

    rigatti,
    @rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

    You said it’s not going to make the game better, so is the implication not that it’s supposed to make the game better somehow?

    gradual,

    Alright bud, I’m just gonna ignore ya.

    Goodbye.

    Glad I’ve gotten pretty good at identifying the insufferable people that just aren’t worth engaging with.

    rigatti,
    @rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

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  • 100,

    you identified yourself?

    gradual,

    No, I’m not the one who is desperately trying to drag people into an internet debate.

    ArmoredThirteen,

    Are you a Magikarp because you seem like you’re hurting yourself in your confusion

    gradual,

    It seems like you’re just trying to fit in with your peers.

    Also, confusion has nothing to do with Magikarp. Magikarp uses splash.

    ArmoredThirteen,

    Nah I’m not worried about my peers I just think you’re easy to string along and it amuses me

    gradual,

    Sigh, more censorship.

    Gonna need better communities without the mod abuse soon.

    AstralPath,

    You’re self-filtering yourself from the community. Based on these interactions, I think you’re doing the lord’s work. Keep it up!👍

    gradual,

    Ok.

    Dremor, (edited )
    @Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

    So you just go and post an off-topic rant, because you feel like those people, whose vast majority works to feed their family, do not deserve to have better working conditions?

    Do you even realize how narcissistic you sound like?

    Looking at your comment history I’m not really surprised, all you contributions looks like similar to this thread, but I’d like to give you a chance before banning you to keep this community turning toxic because of people like you.

    gradual, (edited )

    Lol, what? If they want better working conditions, they can work somewhere other than Activision Blizzard, one of the scummiest companies in the world that’s actively contributing to tarnishing the integrity of the medium.

    Also, I literally said “Cool” in response to them unionizing, so you’re just straight up lying when you say “you feel like those people, whose vast majority works to feed their family, do not deserve to have better working conditions”

    I even clarified by saying what I prioritize.

    It’s sad watching you get this mad at me because I said I don’t like a game and then threaten to abuse your power to ban me.

    Seek help.

    turning toxic because of people like you.

    The real toxicity is from the people responding to me like you lying, calling me a narcissist, and threatening to ban me just to support the dogpile.

    Dremor, (edited )
    @Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

    Lol, what? If they want better working conditions, they can work somewhere other than Activision Blizzard, one of the scummiest companies in the world that’s actively contributing to tarnishing the integrity of the medium.

    Sound like someone who never had any difficulty to find work (or do not work at all). Many worker do not have the possibility to easily change work, either because of the lack of similar companies in the vicinity, added to various reason for not being able to easily move home (kids, mortgages, among other). And even when they can, changing company is a jump into the unknown. It can be better, on the start of an even worse nightmare. At least in a company they already know, they have contacts, friends, and now, an union to protect them.

    Also, I literally said “Cool” in response to them unionizing, so you’re just straight up lying when you say “you feel like those people, whose vast majority works to feed their family, do not deserve to have better working conditions”

    Cool, but it’s not going to make the game any better.

    You are right, I’m caricaturing it a bit. The problem is that you immediately rant about it not going your way. If you’d really want to congratulate them for that, you wouldn’t immediately go on a rant about yourself immediately. Let’s get another example. Would you say to a friend announcing getting engaged “Cool, but I still can’t get laid”? No you wouldn’t, only a narcissist would.

    I even clarified by saying what I prioritize.

    That a bit the problem. You prioritize yourself, in a context that has no reason to. We are talking about the employees, not you. Either talk about the topic of the thread, even if you are against it, but don’t drag it to yourself at every occasion.

    It’s sad watching you get this mad at me because I said I don’t like a game and then threaten to abuse your power to ban me.

    Seek help.

    If I’m that much into banning everyone, I would have done it without giving you a chance of arguing back. The people I banned indefinitely are all spambots or bad faith trolls. Other than that I usually give 3-7 days bans when things go too far, to give people time to self-reflect and join us again on a later date. Considering how well your comments were received by the community, I doubt the community will miss you while your enjoy your alone time.

    The real toxicity is from the people responding to me like you lying, calling me a narcissist, and threatening to ban me just to support the dogpile.

    I see we don’t have the same definition of toxicity. If you consider that warning you to take a bit of time to self-reflect as toxicity, then you probably don’t have your place in this community.

    Tiresia,

    Besides, better working conditions for the team means more mentally healthy workers means a better and more creative product.

    JDPoZ,
    @JDPoZ@lemmy.world avatar

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  • gradual,

    It would be nice if this improved the game or resulted in better games, but I won’t hold my breath.

    JDPoZ,
    @JDPoZ@lemmy.world avatar

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  • gradual,

    Ok. It’s nice that you believe that unionizing is guaranteed to make better products no matter what.

    I still think it won’t improve the game as they’ve been listening to the wrong people for too long.

    But hey, maybe they can make a new game that’s good.

    echodot,

    Why are you arguing? You’ve stated your opinion, great we’ve heard it, but unfortunately it’s based on zero knowledge, so it’s worthless.

    gradual,

    Who’s arguing? We’re agreeing to disagree.

    It looks like you’re getting mad at me for disagreeing with you though. It’s ok for you to think what you want.

    bright_side_,
    @bright_side_@lemmy.world avatar

    Hey just wanted to let you know that I really appreciate your perspective. I know that unions result, in general, in better working conditions. However me as a customer not only supporting such companies, if I choose so, but also benefitting from better products in general is a nice perspective. food for thought!

    Elevator7009,

    Did not know Tillamook was employee-owned. Their ice cream is great, now I have a reason to prioritize buying from them.

    mrodri89, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'

    Im happy. Best state the game has been in and can only get better from here.

    eugenevdebs, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'

    Blizzard probably allowed it because Overwatch is bleeding player count, and then can use the union as “proof” that that unions harm the bottom line.

    I’m happy for them and I hope they can do something on even across other titles/teams, but I suspect Blizzard didn’t hire the Pinkertons like Amazon for a reason.

    Genius, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'

    Hopefully the union can crack down on the frat culture they have there. No more stolen breast milk please

    Poopfeast420,
    @Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    I think the OW team was already pretty good in that regard, and Jeff Kaplan tried to “protect” them, even if that didn’t always result in the best decisions for the game.

    Angry_Autist,

    Narrator: It won’t

    You really have no idea how deep this runs at Blizzard

    Angry_Autist, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'

    Only a decade too late

    miguel, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'
    @miguel@fedia.io avatar

    That's excellent news. Good for them

    endeavor, do gaming w Polygon Sold To Valnet And Hit With Mass Layoffs

    I’ve never liked either kotaku or polygon but less variety is bad.

    endeavor, do gaming w Even Atari Game Cartridges Are Getting More Expensive Because Of Tariffs

    I touched base with the 2600 repro fanbase and both of them are devastated but promise to support the hobby despite the hardship

    BevelGear, (edited ) do gaming w Even Atari Game Cartridges Are Getting More Expensive Because Of Tariffs

    Retropie and a ship solves that problem.

    Don’t forget to bring a raspberry pi, I’d suggest the 4, for when you get hungry.

    tias, do gaming w Even Atari Game Cartridges Are Getting More Expensive Because Of Tariffs

    Well, duh

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