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Pons_Aelius, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

I am very comfortable with never owning a ubisoft game ever again.

pythonoob,

Same

Toneswirly, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

What Ubi wants means fuck all to me. Yall wanted us to buy NFT guns too, see how that worked out…

petrescatraian, (edited ) do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games
banazir, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games
@banazir@lemmy.ml avatar

Oh, fear not Ubisoft, I’m perfectly comfortable never owning any of your games again. Ever. Eat shit.

windowsphoneguy, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

Yeah, apparently I don’t own The Crew 1 anymore.

stardust, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

Piracy is a very noble endeavor to keep alive. Thank you Ubisoft for keeping us on our toes instead of being complacent with trusting digital platforms. Piracy is the true preservation and ownership.

Weslee, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

If paying full price and obtaining a digital copy isn’t ownership, then taking that digital copy without paying can’t be stealing can it?

DacoTaco,
@DacoTaco@lemmy.world avatar

I legit wonder what would happen if this argument is used ( in a professional way by a professional lawyer ) in a court of law. Like, could this legit be argued to be the same?

DebatableRaccoon,

I don’t see it going well but I’d love to see it happen. “One rule for ye, another for me” and all that

DacoTaco,
@DacoTaco@lemmy.world avatar

Ye, same haha

Spiralvortexisalie,

NAL but technically speaking Ubisoft would lose because they would be unable to prove that they were deprived of anything or anything was appropriated from them with their current stance. Realistically they would just pivot and find some other nonsense to try, like claiming a theft of their computer server’s processing power everytime a pirated game accessed their lobby or some other nonsense that would barely fly, but fly none the less.

derpgon,

What if the game was purely offline? Also, how can a pirated game access online lobbies? The last time I pirated a game was because Epic had a BL3 exclusive. And I couldn’t matchmake.

I wonder who would have to prove what. Ubi, that they missed profit (because you’d want to buy the game and didn’t) or the player (who’d argue he wouldn’t ever buy it anyway).

Spiralvortexisalie,

Well the moving party has to prove their allegations, aka Ubisoft moving to sue you means they have to prove everything they say. Since their stated public position is that they are sole owner at all times irregardless of circumstances, they would be legally barred (estoppel) from arguing that any one could hurt their possessory interest (rights and share of ownership). They essentially would have to shift the argument over, similar to a theft of service argument (not paying a train fare is a crime but you didn’t steal a train or turnstile). The question then becomes what service does ubisoft provide? Online servers that do content distribution seem to be the only thing. If you got it on the high seas you never hit their network, so all I see left with my hypothetical napkin math is all that random network traffic ubisoft games seem to always have (even offline).

derpgon,

Thanks, interesting, I am almost tempted to taunt Ubi that I pirated their game and try to get sued lmao.

Seudo,

Bravo.

mateomaui,

There’s a number of cracked games now with online play enabled, you just need to make a burner Steam (etc) account to use it so your main one with purchases doesn’t get nuked if they catch on.

Katana314,

I’m not sure how you drew this conclusion, since most people I know consider paying full price to obtain a digital copy to be extremely close to ownership.

I liked Telltale’s Law and Order series. They can’t sell it anymore, but I can still download my digital copy because I bought it full price.

The whole argument in the article is about monthly subscription rentals.

nickhammes,

When a contract ending almost caused Sony to remove all Discovery content from users last year, including digital copies of things people had paid full price for, the cracks between buying a digital license and actually owning something that can’t be taken away became more visible to a chunk of people. It’s something, but it’s not ownership, and it can be taken away based on agreements you may have no way of gaining insight into.

Seudo, (edited )

Audible is open about it. Well, if you dig through the fine print. Easy enough to rip copies but I’d say most people only realise they need to when they loose access. Maybe not, but $30 for an audiobook seems like pretty shity value if you’re only renting it untill you cancel your subscription.

E: I might be misinformed/ outdated.

phillaholic,

You keep the audiobooks you’ve paid for directly with credits when you cancel.

hightrix,

Piracy is never stealing.

SocialMediaRefugee,

Piracy by definition is stealing.

hightrix,

No. It is not. If you’d like a crime to compare it to, forgery would be more accurate.

phillaholic,

Forgery usually involves submitting what you faked to some other entity in order to do something. Maybe if you illegally copied and sold that music. Regardless the penalties are similar anyway.

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

the unauthorized use of another’s production, invention, or conception especially in infringement of a copyright

Piracy can often invovle legally obtained items or even bypassing item bans.

You pirate a movie by taking a real copy and sharing it with others over the internet by making more copies or by making it copyable.

Stealing a movie would be taking the real copy without paying for it.

You could both steal and pirate the movie, but in the context of modern media, the source material is usually obtained legally.

That’s why most torrents usually have the source in the title to show what it was taken from (DVD, BluRay, WEBRiP, WEB-DL, etc).

EastSideRock,

Piracy by definition is sharing

onlooker,
@onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

Incorrect. Last I checked, theft is depriving the original owner of their product or service. When it comes down to it, piracy is essentially making an illegal copy, meaning the original is still there.

golden_zealot, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games
@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

They already fucked me on this years ago. One day I logged into Uplay and Battlefield 3 and my 2 other games were just fucking gone. Haven’t touched them with a 10 foot pole since.

JoeKrogan, (edited ) do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

Well I’m comfortable not buying any of theirs. They’re in my steam ignore list along with EA 🖕🖕

Ubisoft disable multiplayer in games like splinter cell and then have the nerve to charge you 20 ducats for a 10 year old game with only half the gameplay requiring a shitty launcher and with glaring bugs that they just didn’t bother to address.

As for the future. There is still emulation. So stock up 😉

hazle, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

Agree, I own a lot of games in Steam but most come from bundles or were not bought a full price. I do buy full price games on GOG because I can have a backup offline. hack score match 2023

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  • DebatableRaccoon,

    Not even slightly. I tried to explain this concept to my friend some weeks back and he downright refused to believe Steam or other platforms would leave players without their games if they were to go belly-up, for example.

    TheEntity,

    Do we really own any games at all? We own licenses, nothing more. Even if it's on a DVD.

    Carighan, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m quite comfortable not owning Ubisoft games, and have been for years. It helps that other than one Switch game that I have physically, they haven’t released anything really worth purchasing.

    janonymous, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

    If your games are on steam, you’re already not owning them. The only difference seems to be that steam doesn’t demand a monthly subscription cost, yet

    We already have game pass so it’s not like this is something completely new either.

    If this makes money, other big publishers will join and in 10 years it’s the norm.

    Personally, I’ll try my best to keep buying on GOG and itch.io where I get to actually own my games.

    ogeist,

    Agree, I own a lot of games in Steam but most come from bundles or were not bought a full price. I do buy full price games on GOG because I can have a backup offline.

    GeneralEmergency,

    If your games are on steam, you’re already not owning them

    Almost as if all the “evil” in the game’s industry Valve started.

    Transporter_Room_3,
    @Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

    We did it guys, we found the source of corporate greed!

    GeneralEmergency,

    G*mers will do anything to avoid saying anything bad about Lord Gaben

    SendMeYourInk,

    The only difference is a huge difference though. Pay once for a game that you can access anytime versus paying continuously for the rest of your life to keep access to a game.

    Some games are not worth keeping access to and subscription may end up being cheaper, but it is trading one benefit for another.

    Wodge,
    @Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

    The only difference seems to be that steam doesn’t demand a monthly subscription cost, yet

    Which Ubisoft isn’t doing either. This is just Ubisoft’s gamepass style subscription, which has been available for a few years now, it’s just getting a 2 tier pricing model.

    Flaky,
    @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    I’m not enough of a Linux user to inconvenience myself so I’m just using Steam. The cloud sync is the killer feature for me - if GOG had something like it even if I have to pay extra, I’d so use it.

    mateomaui, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

    They should get comfortable with me downloading cracked versions of their games.

    Beardedsausag3,
    @Beardedsausag3@kbin.social avatar

    A-fucken-hoy matey! 🏴‍☠️ May the seas bless your sails today.

    Transporter_Room_3,
    @Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

    The developers that come out and tell people “pirate our game and if you like it consider buying when you can” will always get my money.

    Developers who tell us we own nothing and should be pleased about it can get my steel and cannonballs, cause this ship is ready to set sail.

    Flaky,
    @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    They actually used cracked versions of their games years ago. Rockstar were also caught red-handed using cracked EXEs.

    phillaholic,

    Why not?

    Flaky,
    @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    I don’t protest it, it’s just funny to see the companies act hypocritical.

    NoneYa, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

    It’s like they’re trying to piss off their fans at this point. Just seeing how far they’ll go before people say enough is enough.

    The craziest part to me is that people still give money to companies like this.

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Honestly I don’t think the addicted Assassins Creed and Far Cry players care. Too addicted to the endless gameplay loop.

    Zedd00,

    My big problem with quitting assassin’s creed is that it’s the best representation of what these places looked like hundreds of years ago. I know it’s not 100% accurate, but the fact that my wife could guide me around Rome in game because she’d lived there is one of my favorite gaming experiences. Replaying an AC game and reading all of the research has made vacations to places where they’re set amazing.

    That said, I’m never buying a subscription to games. The second I can’t buy the game and have it, I’ll stop taking their abuse.

    fsxylo,

    Doesn’t matter, saw game on TV, must buy.

    BigDanishGuy, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

    I want ubisoft to be comfortable with me not playing their games.

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