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MentalEdge, (edited ) do gaming w Popular Female Skyrim Modder Has Abandoned Her Work Due to Daily Harrassment
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I don’t understand people who “demand” things from volunteers. Open source devs, modders, and still recently content creators are/were treated like public service workers, by some.

Imagine if we went around treating artists as if they were obligated to please each of us individually with their every piece? I’m very happy to see this attitude improve with streaming and youtube, where creators are more and more met with care and support when they have to step away for a bit or retire entirely.

It sadly seems like this modder was eventually putting in tremendous effort, in a vain attempt to please absolutely everyone using her mods. But that isn’t a good reason to work for free.

Any work I do for free, is something I do because I want to, but this modder explicitly says she did work she didn’t want to do in order to please fans. And I can’t help but ask, why? (I know why, but someone should have cared enough to show her she is allowed to just say no, and do whatever she prefers.)

The blurb about her doing music is how you’re SUPPOSED to feel doing something for fun. I’m happy that she found her way to something that makes her feel that way.

Dudewitbow,

it doesnt even have to be a mod, just free. See what happened with AetherSX2(android ps2 emulator) and how a bunch of people kept pestering a dev till he basiclaly quit working on it on mobile because they ask for a lot for something that was literally free.

Zahille7,

You ever see steam discussions for early access games? Jesus fucking Christ people are entitled as shit.

Empricorn,

Aren’t those paid (or at least they can be)? I think that’s an entirely different can of worms…

Swedneck,
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early access games are also notorious for being dogshite and left as such, or they’re fine but with obvious flaws which are never fixed because “bro it’s still in early access!”

Zahille7,

It really does depend on the game, though. Going Medieval for instance has been in early access for almost three years, but it’s three years of active development. Just about every week brings some kind of update, whether it’s little coding and qol stuff, to full upgrades and new mechanics being added in. They’re almost done with their roadmap.

brucethemoose,

Rimworld was another shining example. Its actual early access was a forum release, the Steam EA was polishing.

That being said I have a dead EA or two in my library. Starforge comes to mind…

Swedneck,
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these are the exceptions that prove the rule

LwL,

People do this with artists too. Especially the moment you offer anything in the way of free commissions for a specific community and such.

Many forums had gfx threads, where members who enjoy putting together banners and such would offer to make something for those who asked. A good friend of mine ran one in a certain game’s forum for a while and the absolute entitlement in which some of those people acted (in regards to speed and nitpicking about minor things) was disgusting. It was maybe 1 in 25 people but it soured the whole thing for her, understandably so. The moment you give people a little finger wrt their requests, one of those people will take the whole hand. The same likely applies to modding.

And I’m sure being a woman doing gaming stuff isn’t helping because there’s way too much sexism in gaming culture, even though there are also a lot of subcommunities that are super welcoming to everyone.

Schadrach,

The moment you give people a little finger wrt their requests, one of those people will take the whole hand. The same likely applies to modding.

I suppose that depends on which finger.

AFC1886VCC, do gaming w Popular Female Skyrim Modder Has Abandoned Her Work Due to Daily Harrassment

Good for her for making the right decision for her own wellbeing. Too many sad little fucks on the Internet who spend all their time harassing others. Pathetic existence.

Kyrgizion, do gaming w Popular Female Skyrim Modder Has Abandoned Her Work Due to Daily Harrassment

The only interaction I’ve ever had with authors of mods and such was sending them thanks for their hard work. Sad.

aluminium, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

They are 100% comming out with their own launcher.

SomeGuy69, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player
@SomeGuy69@lemmy.world avatar

Stop hitting yourself, argument.

CrowAirbrush, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

So, give him the expected pushback and then some.

guywithoutaname, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

Cause you kept those accounts so safe in 2011.

TurboHarbinger, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

Steals your information

calls it safety

HeyJoe, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

When they say safer, are they referring to pirating the games? If it helps with that and they don’t need Denuvo or any of that stuff, then I guess it’s helpful. I have no clue if it helps though and I don’t even know where to look anymore to see if these games are pirated, my guess is they are?

yamanii,
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They are pirated, what he means is what some community manager already said back when this was about Helldivers 2, made their job easier to ban people with playstation accounts.

Zoot,
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How does that work in a single player game though?

bouh,

I wish it was, but it isn’t. It usually about them being able to ban you from playing for whatever reason they deem worthy.

ivanafterall, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player
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Sony boss asks customers to push back harder.

Duamerthrax, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

If Sony games aren’t safe to play without a PSN account, I better not play them at all.

ByteOnBikes,

Ubisoft did that too for a while, forcing Ubisoft logins. And they’re continuing to lose staff and shut down games.

ChicoSuave, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

I am safer by not giving my information to a company that can’t stop hackers from revealing all the details about the people who have PSN accounts. Sony just throws our data and privacy into the void and doesn’t actually care about the loss. They either need bigger fines on a more consistent frequency levied against them or they need to drop the PSN account requirements and learn how to make money like they did before PSN.

Dariusmiles2123, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

I don’t see in what way having a PSN account would make Horizon Zero Dawn safer on PC.

But I also wouldn’t mind so much if the few PC games I’d buy from Sony were linked to my PSN account as I’ve been a Playstation gamer since the first console.

Still, I wouldn’t want every publisher to require an account to play…

sylver_dragon,

I don’t see in what way having a PSN account would make Horizon Zero Dawn safer on PC.

It’s safer for Sony’s stock price, as they can report higher numbers of people on the PlayStation Network and greater “player engagement”. What, you thought this was about improving the experience for the customer? No one gives a fuck about them.

Melonpoly, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

Yes, because games without PSN accounts are so unsafe and Sony definitely isn’t susceptible to having their servers hacked.

ByteOnBikes,

Sony has a history of being terrible with security.

They literally built malware two decades ago.

Juvyn00b,

I still have an audio CD with their malware embedded. Ripped it under Linux, no problem.

Visstix, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

Safe from what? Convenience?

rockerface,

Safe from the players, of course

fmstrat,

Keep ________ safe. No matter how you fill the blank, you fill it with money.

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