This is the reality. EA, Ubisoft they both created masterpieces in the past. And they just got worse in every release with their beloved series. The reason is mostly nothing is simple anymore. People want simplicity, not bunch of launchers with additional accounts, always online single player games, tens of DLCs that were suppose to be in the main game.
Exactly. Woke is just a symptom not the reason. It’s hard to see a beloved series go bad but people should learn to move on if the game is bad. Just buy the game when it’s good and the problem is solved.
I think it’s a symptom because the creators using it to hide their bad games, and the idiots think the game is bad because it’s woke. If the game is already bad, it’s bad. Dragon Age games were always diverse and Dragon Age Origins was epitome of its genre. No one is talking about it being woke.
They indeed draw attention. It’s basically there is no good or bad advertising from their point. However, this is a fantasy world and people would like to see psychically appealing characters, especially the playable ones. I believe this is the root issue.
When they have no good material, they start to promote unrelated things to gameplay. This is just one of those things.
Visuals are part of the experience, it’s not unrelated. Gameplay is the core, you only have make up without it. If the game turn out to be good, most of these will be forgotten. There are a lot of good games that can be considered as “woke” and no one talk about them like this. Because they are good games.
On broader range everything in the game is part of the experience. However there is a significance order to that. Core gameplay loop comes first, every person who plays the game experience this. Back story is lore. To me lore is also important and a very enjoyable part of the games, but some people are not interested in this and they tend to skip these parts. If they are optional (like reading books in Skyrim or reading pamphlets in Shadowrun etc.) they don’t even bother with them.
Citation: Cyberpunk 2077, Baldur’s Gate 3, I can even put Stardew Valley in this list, though not as vocal as others. I didn’t see anyone bash these games as being woke, or maybe they are a minority if there are.
Not sure how commercial flop part is related but from what I understand from the people who talk about this, yeah it’s more or less something like that. Though I can easily say that many people have different definition of “woke” in their minds and it shows. Consistency differs.
This is my conclusion, from what I see, it is mostly about TQ+ part.
That’s what I think as well. If it requires, just put 18+ inscription and let people decide for themselves, which I believe Veilguard already has that rating.
That’s a good question. I think it’s more like reciprocal, as a counter measure from conservative people. I wouldn’t approach this as left and right quarrel. What we see is political but not in its core I believe, it’s pushed into politics.
If simplify it, this whole debate is around having transition chest scars as a customization option, at least that’s what I see. Woke is just a bigger cluster here.
That’s a good point. I probably missed that because I didn’t visit those forums. Usually these discussions go around with already bad games. I actually checked BG3 Steam forums now however couldn’t find those threads without searching. Perhaps it was a vocal minority? If a game is good, majority don’t care about these details or they don’t express their feelings even though they’re conservatives.
I guess it would be more fitting if I said “symptom of an ongoing debate” or something like that. But like I said, these conversations go around on already bad games. Maybe they being bad attracts these conversations since those people have a tangible indication, even though it’s actually not the real reason of it’s being bad.
If Veilguard flops, there will be a lot of reasons to list. Not sure if wokeness would make into top 10.
They are not unanimous on everything, so probably no. However the racist and misogynist ones are a vocal minority. Like on everything, it’s a spectrum and it’s not wise to put all of them in the same category.
there’s not a higher ratio of positive reviews to hide the assholes?
I don’t think it works like anonymity and if they are the only ones who give negative reviews on a successful game, it would be easy to find them in all those positive reviews. It is possible that people who gave a positive review also mentioned that they are uncomfortable with these specs. You won’t see them if you only check negative reviews. I would say you can find both civil and assholes in anti-woke people. Same thing goes for the woke people as well. The problem here is, the ones who hold these debates on the internet are usually the assholes from both side. It’s crazy. I guess we have enough people here on Lemmy now since things are not so different from Reddit anymore.
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i avoid hype but as a massive fan of the original kcd and the honesty of this reveal, im hyped! wont be pre-ordering though, never pre-order its bad for the industry and consumers.
5 is the only one I haven’t played yet so cannot really make a comment there, but you can check the older ones like HD collection. It has the first three games.
By the way I didn’t mention earlier but Ys series with nightmare difficulty could be a nice action for you. They have a boss-rush mode where you only fight the bosses.
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