muhyb

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muhyb,

Who will be idiot if the game flops?

muhyb,

This is the reality. EA, Ubisoft they both created masterpieces in the past. And they just got worse in every release with their beloved series. The reason is mostly nothing is simple anymore. People want simplicity, not bunch of launchers with additional accounts, always online single player games, tens of DLCs that were suppose to be in the main game.

muhyb,

Exactly. Woke is just a symptom not the reason. It’s hard to see a beloved series go bad but people should learn to move on if the game is bad. Just buy the game when it’s good and the problem is solved.

muhyb,

I think it’s a symptom because the creators using it to hide their bad games, and the idiots think the game is bad because it’s woke. If the game is already bad, it’s bad. Dragon Age games were always diverse and Dragon Age Origins was epitome of its genre. No one is talking about it being woke.

muhyb,

Eh, it’s a bit of slippery slope if you ask me since it’s overused these days.

muhyb,

They indeed draw attention. It’s basically there is no good or bad advertising from their point. However, this is a fantasy world and people would like to see psychically appealing characters, especially the playable ones. I believe this is the root issue.

When they have no good material, they start to promote unrelated things to gameplay. This is just one of those things.

muhyb,

Visuals are part of the experience, it’s not unrelated. Gameplay is the core, you only have make up without it. If the game turn out to be good, most of these will be forgotten. There are a lot of good games that can be considered as “woke” and no one talk about them like this. Because they are good games.

muhyb,

That’s not wise to complain about more choices though. Unless there is a forced agenda, that I can understand.

muhyb,

On broader range everything in the game is part of the experience. However there is a significance order to that. Core gameplay loop comes first, every person who plays the game experience this. Back story is lore. To me lore is also important and a very enjoyable part of the games, but some people are not interested in this and they tend to skip these parts. If they are optional (like reading books in Skyrim or reading pamphlets in Shadowrun etc.) they don’t even bother with them.

Citation: Cyberpunk 2077, Baldur’s Gate 3, I can even put Stardew Valley in this list, though not as vocal as others. I didn’t see anyone bash these games as being woke, or maybe they are a minority if there are.

muhyb,

Not sure how commercial flop part is related but from what I understand from the people who talk about this, yeah it’s more or less something like that. Though I can easily say that many people have different definition of “woke” in their minds and it shows. Consistency differs.

This is my conclusion, from what I see, it is mostly about TQ+ part.

muhyb,

That’s what I think as well. If it requires, just put 18+ inscription and let people decide for themselves, which I believe Veilguard already has that rating.

muhyb,

That’s a good question. I think it’s more like reciprocal, as a counter measure from conservative people. I wouldn’t approach this as left and right quarrel. What we see is political but not in its core I believe, it’s pushed into politics.

If simplify it, this whole debate is around having transition chest scars as a customization option, at least that’s what I see. Woke is just a bigger cluster here.

muhyb,

Yes I didn’t spend time in BG3 forums but from what I see on Steam reviews being 96% positive out of 500k people, I believe they are a minority.

muhyb,

That’s a good point. I probably missed that because I didn’t visit those forums. Usually these discussions go around with already bad games. I actually checked BG3 Steam forums now however couldn’t find those threads without searching. Perhaps it was a vocal minority? If a game is good, majority don’t care about these details or they don’t express their feelings even though they’re conservatives.

I guess it would be more fitting if I said “symptom of an ongoing debate” or something like that. But like I said, these conversations go around on already bad games. Maybe they being bad attracts these conversations since those people have a tangible indication, even though it’s actually not the real reason of it’s being bad.

If Veilguard flops, there will be a lot of reasons to list. Not sure if wokeness would make into top 10.

muhyb,

They are not unanimous on everything, so probably no. However the racist and misogynist ones are a vocal minority. Like on everything, it’s a spectrum and it’s not wise to put all of them in the same category.

there’s not a higher ratio of positive reviews to hide the assholes?

I don’t think it works like anonymity and if they are the only ones who give negative reviews on a successful game, it would be easy to find them in all those positive reviews. It is possible that people who gave a positive review also mentioned that they are uncomfortable with these specs. You won’t see them if you only check negative reviews. I would say you can find both civil and assholes in anti-woke people. Same thing goes for the woke people as well. The problem here is, the ones who hold these debates on the internet are usually the assholes from both side. It’s crazy. I guess we have enough people here on Lemmy now since things are not so different from Reddit anymore.

muhyb,

Hmm, so the tactical part kind of died. That’s sad.

Moneyless Harvest Moon-type game?

I have such a love/hate relationship with Stardew Valley, slightly less so with My Time At Portia (the developers seem to have at least considered wrist strain in the button layout and mechanics). I long for a moneyless, classless game in this genre where the incentives are community thriving, trust, pleasure, and all the other...

muhyb,

Not exactly moneyless but imagine quality of life improvements for Stardew Valley. That’s “Fields of Mistria”.

muhyb,

I just hope they won’t ruin it with MTX.

muhyb,

Maybe some CRPGs? Like Shadowrun Returns. Missions will be longer than 10 minutes but you can save it any time once it’s your turn.

Here's 3 reasons I'm actually pretty optimistic about Dragon Age: The Veilguard despite being an old school RPG sicko (www.pcgamer.com)

As a long time Dragon Age fan, I’ve been really, just iffy about Dragon Age: The Veilguard, especially since the very first trailer that they put out. The vibes were way off, like they were making a trailer for a Fortnite crossover rather than a dark fantasy game. The gameplay trailer afterward did seem to be more of what I...

muhyb,

To be fair, after all those layoffs and that trailer, I’m far from being optimistic.

Long Dark dev criticises Manor Lords for lack of updates, Hooded Horse CEO replies that not every game needs to be "some live-service boom or bust" (www.rockpapershotgun.com)

Interesting thoughts about how to define success for video games in today’s market, particularly for those using early access. Lots of respect for Hooded Horse’s CEO, Tim Bender, he says all the right things and seems genuine....

muhyb,

I do that to help some of the indie devs I like. I don’t play them until the final release or don’t contribute any other way. Did that for Factorio, Mashinky, Soviet Republic, Songs of Syx, Kingdoms Reborn, Farthest Frontier, etc.

muhyb,

It’s pretty basic at the moment. I bought it to support since I like to support indie devs. I probably won’t play until the final release though.

By the way, also check Ostriv.

Out of the medieval ones, I think Farthest Frontier is the most mature one.

If medieval part is not important, Soviet Republic is the most complex one.

muhyb,

No problem! Their final release should be close too. Have fun :)

muhyb,

If Steam controller also had joysticks, it would be the ultimate controller.

muhyb,

Torchlight I & II are easily my favourite ARPGs. I wish Runic also did Torchlight III but sadly the studio is closed and its just an abomination with Chinese mobile game aspects.

muhyb,

Just FYI, Beehaw doesn’t have downvote button so that’s probably why.

muhyb,

Why do I have a feeling that they will ruin this with MTX?

Also Starcraft ended perfectly. Even though I would want more from Starcraft series, this doesn’t feel like Starcraft.

muhyb,

Too bad (for them). I hope Tempest Rising won’t end like this too. I really want to see another RTS era, but not like this.

muhyb,

Started Farming Simulator 22. It works incredibly well under Wayland but you should disable V-sync for that.

muhyb,

Also featuring Dante from Devil May Cry Series.

muhyb,

I mean, if you’re a successful thief there is no combat. :)

muhyb,

Well, it was a joke but combat count can be reduced. You cannot fully avoid it I think.

muhyb,

Maybe Devil May Cry games, or Bayonetta?

muhyb,

5 is the only one I haven’t played yet so cannot really make a comment there, but you can check the older ones like HD collection. It has the first three games.

By the way I didn’t mention earlier but Ys series with nightmare difficulty could be a nice action for you. They have a boss-rush mode where you only fight the bosses.

muhyb,

Godzilla had a stroke trying to read that title.

muhyb,

Then Serious Sam is an AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa game.

muhyb,

You too!

I just wrote that because they have an expiration date. Glad it found a new home.

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