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helloharu, do games w Amazon Lays Off 180 Employees In Its Games Division - Aftermath
@helloharu@lemmy.world avatar

It is an honest shame, there was a lot of talent brought in, but honestly not surprised it ended this way.

SpaceNoodle,

Talent that was wasted and discarded.

A_Random_Idiot,

Is this your first experience with corporate america?

SpaceNoodle,

No, it was just especially egregious with Amazon in this scenario (and often in general with them …)

They had some promising technology and talent, but focused on what creativity they could cram into the flywheel instead of coming up with something good that could then later feed back into the ecosystem. The latter process can yield surprise successes like the Amazon Echo.

Tygr, do games w Amazon Lays Off 180 Employees In Its Games Division - Aftermath

I’m not understanding. As this is the first I’ve ever heard of this, I went to their site and it looks like freebies for games you play and games from other developers.

Did Amazon make their own games? If not, what were these 180 workers doing exactly?

potterpockets,

They made New World and were supposedly working on a LOTR MMO.

drcobaltjedi,

Didn’t New Worlds turn into a ghost town month after launch?

potterpockets,

Yeah it cratered pretty hard, but they have been adding content to the game. Launch was a buggy clusterfuck.

Selmafudd,

I played at launch and yeah the bugs is what drove most people away. They were exploited pretty hard, there was like a 4 or 5 day period there where 3 seperate dupes were discovered and they didn’t do any roll backs

Pika,

I bought new world, never actually played it, I had tried the beta and said well this seems cool and got it then never played it at launch

LiveLM,

Might wanna get to it eventually before Amazon shuts it down

neshura,

Not entirely well versed in the New World Saga but from what I’ve heard and read here’s roughly what happened:

  • The dev team was developing a hardcore always-on PvP MMO, which is fine but not for everyone
  • Playtest rolls around and the devs get back player numbers you would expect for a hardcore PvP MMO
  • Speculation: the higher ups really don’t like the projected return on their investment given the abysmal (for their ideas) player numbers and force the Studio to pivot to PvE content
  • At this point the entire game has been designed around PvP and the devs now have only ~1 year to somehow shove PvE content in there
  • Launch comes and since the devs had to spend all available time on forcing in PvE content what is present is buggy and doesn’t fit the game mechanics
  • Ensue several months of panicked back and forth patching of the game by the devs, making the entire mess worse because everyone is pissed by one change or another
Zikeji,
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To be fair, a lot of the game breaking launch bugs that hurt the game for me were with PVP (specifically, the instanced wars). I do know there were others but those PVP bugs are what I’ll always remember. The lag, the broken healing, the hatchet exploit, and a few others.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Cuz it was killing gpus

scottywh,

The article has the answers.

Appoxo, do gaming w Only You Can Prevent The Game Awards Hype Cycle
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Not even participating by clicking on the link and at best watch a trailer from game company xyz on youtube.

alphacyberranger, do gaming w Amazon Lays Off 180 Employees In Its Games Division
@alphacyberranger@lemmy.world avatar

So all of them?

SpaceNoodle,

No, they kept all the middle managers on so they can schedule meetings and give each other raises.

LemmyIsFantastic,

So much snarky hate from baby coders but can you imagine if you had to be a person and pick up the phone and actually talk to your customers. Or actually manage your own time and stay on task?

The horror.

Shalakushka,
@Shalakushka@kbin.social avatar

"I know what will help these idiot coders manage their time better: more meaningless meetings with middle managers patting themselves on the back"

LemmyIsFantastic,

I love how you judge them all by stereotype in classic tech bro I know better than you peak form.

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

Perhaps if you’d get over your density, you’d realise that a lot of developers (myself included) do manage our own time. That take of yours isn’t it. You may want to reconsider.

LemmyIsFantastic,

Yes, the most successful companies are always headed up solely by devs and engineers. Got it 👌.

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, my hopes were too high, it seems.

SpaceNoodle,

I’ve probably been coding for longer than you’ve been alive, champ.

LemmyIsFantastic,

👌 champ

DashboTreeFrog, do gaming w Amazon Lays Off 180 Employees In Its Games Division

I honestly didn’t know they had a games division

TeaHands,
@TeaHands@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty sure they were on about making a LotR MMO at some point? No idea what else they were up to though.

Send_me_nude_girls,
@Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de avatar

New World MMORPG is made by Amazon

Butterpaderp,

They made Crucible which got some hype, but it flopped hard. For a game that was in development for 6 years, it didnt feel like they playtested it at all.

Jinxyface,

LotR MMO in the works, but they also made New World and Crucible

XTornado, do games w Only You Can Prevent The Game Awards Hype Cycle - Aftermath

If we don’t take action soon eventually all events will be hosted/created by Geoff Keighley.

TwoBeeSan,

The Ryan Seacrest of gaming

bridge_too_close, do games w Only You Can Prevent The Game Awards Hype Cycle - Aftermath
@bridge_too_close@kbin.social avatar

Last year's TGA was somewhat exciting because they gave away a bunch of Steam Decks. I normally just see the winners posted the next morning, along with any new game trailers.

XTornado,

Christopher Judge did help with that and his 8 minutes speech.

tacotroubles,

Was it only 8 minutes? It felt like 30

XTornado,

7:59 to be exact but yeah… It felt longer.

AnUnusualRelic, do games w Only You Can Prevent The Game Awards Hype Cycle - Aftermath
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Til there are game awards.

Annoyed_Crabby, do games w Only You Can Prevent The Game Awards Hype Cycle - Aftermath

To me, it’s The Game Announcements.

NightOwl, do games w Only You Can Prevent The Game Awards Hype Cycle - Aftermath

I’ve never watched game awards. I don’t even know if there is even a main one. Watches speeches is boring which is why I don’t watch award shows in general.

Only goty I care about is the goty edition where the game releases with all the DLCs bundled at a discount.

instamat, do games w Only You Can Prevent The Game Awards Hype Cycle - Aftermath

I can’t believe an event created by Geoff Keighly could be generic or average

Feathercrown, do games w Amazon Lays Off 180 Employees In Its Games Division - Aftermath

Amazon has a games division?

konalt,
@konalt@lemmy.world avatar

For only $20, the new Amazon Basics Grand Theft Auto.

ChicoSuave,

I would play that.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Had. Briefly.

nezbyte, do games w Luke's Thoughts On A Bunch Of Video Games He Didn't Get To Write About Because He Was Unemployed - Aftermath

I appreciate the short review format and lack of pop-ups on the website.

Disappointing to hear that Bombrush Cyberfunk didn’t live up to the Jet Set Radio expectations. I used to play JSRF all the time on the OG Xbox.

tuckerm,

I think I'll still have to check out Bombrush Cyberfunk -- most other people seem to have liked it. And it's not like anything else is filling that niche right now.

Hadn't heard of Cyber Knights Flashpoint, that one looks fun.

Zahille7,

Don’t let the two-sentence review in the article fool you. It’s basically exactly like JSRF (which was also a huge game in my childhood), and then some. The music has all the same vibes, the movesets and tricks are awesome, the vibrant colorful world reminds me of Tokyo-to to a T.

Do you and your childhood self a favor and check it out!

nezbyte,

Now I’m itching to play JSRF again. Next time Bombshell Cyberfunk goes on sale I’ll pick it up. Seems like it’ll be a great game to play on a steam deck.

Crystal_Shards64,

Play bomb rush cyberfunk. It’s not 100% like JSR or JSRF but it is the closest love letter to the two games we’ve ever seen. It is very good

Sanctus, do games w Amazon Lays Off 180 Employees In Its Games Division - Aftermath
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

That didn’t last long

TommySalami, do gaming w I'm So Tired, Total War: The long-running strategy series is spinning its (chariot) wheels

It is a fair criticism. There is a limited number of historical conflicts/periods with multiple factions, large troop structures, etc. Do they continue to refine past entries or explore more into fiction and mythology? Personally, I’d love to see a more finely polished Medieval, but I think it is more likely that they will follow the Warhammer model and do more licensed products.

DragonTypeWyvern,

I just got around to playing Total War Warhammer I (forgot it was in my library), and I’m ACHING for Total War: Warhammer 40k.

By the God Emperor, they will just print money with that shit if they don’t fuck up a working system like Warhammer 3 apparently did. Imagine all the DLC hero packs.

If it helps, just remember that the Imperial Guard don’t necessarily care if allies are in their line of fire in the first place…

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