in the movies they only ever show 3 raptors on the island, 2 were killed by the trex at the end while the third was locked in the fridge by the kid. this is the teaser to say you will be hunted by a raptor in the game
How to show you haven’t kept up with NMS and the company at all since No Man’s Sky released.
There is little reason to believe this will be the same, they’ve given the players more than what was promised and continue to vastly expand NMS, all for free.
It seems that you need a refresher. I suggest you rewatch those original pre-release trailers and then try playing the game to see if it looks anything like that. I did that a few months ago, and spoiler alert, it did not. Continued support is of course praiseworthy, but it wouldn’t have been necessary if Hello Games had actually kept their promises to begin with. It boggles my mind that gamers so vehemently defend a company that took a decade longer than it should have to deliver some (not all!) of what was promised and also wasted a bunch of time and resources on bloating the game with stuff that was never mentioned and that nobody asked for. Gotta be some form of sunk cost fallacy or Stockholm syndrome or something…
Needless to say, I disagree with you that there’s little reason to believe this will be the same. On the contrary, there is every reason to believe that. Due to my skepticism, I was talked down to by people excited by the trailers back then, just like I’m being talked down to by you now. Vindication felt very sweet first time around, so I’m looking forward to round two.
That’s also something I was told in response to my skepticism during NMS’ pre-release hype phase, and it’s a complete misunderstanding of what’s going on here. I’m not trying to stop people from being happy, on the contrary, I’m trying to help them avoid disappointment by getting them to stop huffing hopium in industrial quantities. But they don’t wanna stop.
It’s not a “misunderstanding” when you’re laughing about what you think is going to happen and getting excited about your “vindication”. You’re not helping anyone here. You’re just trying to get them to join you in your cynicism.
It seems complaining about Cyberpunk has also become downvote-worthy these days. I think people are just all in on a good redemption arc so when a game is finally good they’re willing to overlook all the early promises that will never be fulfilled.
I would say it is justified given the amount of support they gave the game in the aftermath, all for free. I would instead encourage people not to buy games at launch. Also, it’s not like this new game is totally different either from NMS, you can clearly see the back bones from NMS. So it’s obviously that they’re going to use everything that is good from NMS in their new game.
The same people are at the helm, and they’ve managaed to make a massive profit by making up a bunch of stuff, releasing a broken, unfinished game and fixing it over the course of nearly a decade. What’s to say they’re going to do differently this time. If anything, they’re more likely to get a pass releasing a broken game now since it will probably eventually be what was promised at launch.
Edit: and I also want to highlight the fact that by supporting Hello Games (at least until we’ve seen definitive proof that this isn’t a repeat) we’re very directly showing support for the practice of releasing broken games.
Thats only true if it comes out broken, which hasn’t happened yet.
I’ll treat it the same as every other, if after a couple weeks once the hype has worn down the game actually fulfills the general schtick and seems to have learned and integrated its NMS lessons, then I’ll consider getting it.
I got NMS for ten bucks at the NEXT update and feel like I’ve gotten far more than my money’s worth. This title hasn’t proven anything yet, and I’ll wait for the truth before purchasing it like I do with every other game. It’s been this way since like 2013 when the industry started pumping out incomplete live service nonsense with seasons and battle passes.
I’ll treat it the same as every other, if after a couple weeks once the hype has worn down the game actually fulfills the general schtick and seems to have learned and integrated its NMS lessons, then I’ll consider getting it.
I got NMS for ten bucks at the NEXT update and feel like I’ve gotten far more than my money’s worth. This title hasn’t proven anything yet, and I’ll wait for the truth before purchasing it like I do with every other game. It’s been this way since like 2013 when the industry started pumping out incomplete live service nonsense with seasons and battle passes.
Thats exactly my point. We don’t know anything about the game, and are supporting it by just assuming that its going to be a great game and exactly whats promised from a studio that had previously lied frequently leading up to its last release. Thats why you don’t feed into another ridiculous hype train, and don’t pre-order or make day-one purchases. If they’ve actually learned their lesson and reformed, make them prove it before buying the game. I’m not saying don’t buy the game, I’m saying don’t buy in to the hype.
Oh for sure, definitely not going to hype it. I am going to follow it though and see what they show off.
I’m curious if they’ll be more open with their development process this time around, and if the company that has had issues in the past with four player connectivity can pull of server meshing.
Step 1: Release a shit game early that's nothing like its trailer and produce a shit ton of publicity through its consequential shit storm.
Step 2: Spent development time on it that you had originally planned for it anyway to fix things up a little bit, without ever reaching the state of the original trailer and get all the praise for being a shitty company because you've apparently done some magical redemption arc.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit - and then do it all over again because people are gullible idiots.
You can apply the same shit to CP2077 and other games btw. At this point it is beneficial to just release a game in a shitty state because now you have the opportunity to use it as some PR mechanism of how great you are as a company for still caring for your games even after a shitty launch.
It really drives me crazy people defending the CP2077 debacle these days. Like I get it that it’s a fun game but that’s not what anyone is complaining about. We’re complaining about how it’s not and never will be the game they promoted in countless hours of previews in the months leading up to release.
Or simply the terrible the state it was in. Took them to 1.6 to finally fix the stupid framerate degradation, at least partially. And things like the story will obviously never be fixed.
Hi there Dark thoughts! I'm just curious as to why you've downvoted every single comment I've ever made on Kbin. Is this something you do to everyone who downvotes you one time? Seems a little extreme and immature don't ya think?
I do it with obvious lurker / alt accounts that are otherwise not active and apparently just exist to downvote other people. Legit accounts and especially those who could actually provide some valid counterpoints aren't receiving this treatment. This also includes a block, so consider this message a friendly courtesy of mine, but also the last thing you'll hear from me, as I have better things to do than argue with internet trolls. Have a nice vote manipulative day.
What the actual fuck? One downvote is all it took and this dude thinks I'm a troll. (Make that two, lol) If anyone else is reading this, I'm very real and this is my main account. Lol. Jesus Christ.
No, but the fact that the shots we see in the trailer already exists in NMS gives me hope that they can do what they claim this time (outside of Sean’s vague hints at server meshing allowing all people to be on the same earth) in terms of gameplay.
Networking code and their version of server meshing is the biggest wildcard here. But they have already proven they can make a procedural world with gameplay loops and multiplayer like the trailer. Nothing is out of the realm of possibility, and they have the entire NMS development/update experience to lean on now for making their second game.
But yeah, poach some SC devs to help you make the server meshing portion of it for sure.
I’m cautiously optimistic. I really hope this isn’t the first GTA game they ruin. I hate that they discarded the additions to GTA V’s single-player in exchange for GTA Online updates, I hope they won’t do that here, even though I did actually enjoy GTA Online too.
And that’s why this is a console only release for now.
That’s what doomed cyberpunk. I got my Series X halfway through the campaign, and it was a different game on the X vs the One. I wish they had scrapped current gen plans for that game and went next gen only. It would have been a more successful launch.
I won’t be pre-ordering (because they likely won’t be releasing on PC at launch, ugh), but I have high hopes. There hasn’t been a R* game without a killer story. I kinda expected RDR2’s story to be an afterthought to the online, as that was their first game since GTAOnline, however it was still an awesome single player campaign.
IMO almost every GTA has had derivative writing and set ups, but it’s okay because of everything else taking the spotlight. 3 was just Claude doing random missions until one mission lets you get revenge on Catalina and then the game just ends. Vice City is a revenge plot sort of but it’s just Tommy doing random jobs until Sonny’s like “oh you fancy huh?”. SA’s story was just batshit crazy all over the place. 4 IMO had the actual good story and didn’t seem derivative. Niko was a genuinely interesting character. V’s story was just straight forward “criminals finding out who snitched”, satisfying, but a bit scant. I just ask for a serviceable crime plot set in a vibrant and lived in world.
IV was the one I spent the most time on, so that makes sense. But with V it’s not a lack of depth, more a lack of continuity. Of course it’s been so long since I played it I can’t remember any specific examples, I just remember being disappointed, and thinking they spent so much time/money on the physics, they had nothing left for the story …
They didn’t yet, but they could at any time. Enshitification is a real thing and it’s starting to become more widespread. I just have to hope that GTA 6 will be good. I think it probably will be.
Overreaction much? GTA4 online granted didn’t even work, but V online is exactly how you want GTA online to behave, minus the load times. No one is forcing you to play online. You’ll easily get 100 hours just fucking around in single player.
I always thought I wanted GTA Online during the GTA3 era. Then when it became a reality, I realized I really didn’t want it and preferred the single player. The moment the story ends though, I have zero interest. Same with RDR2. Don’t care much to run around an empty world trying to collect 100% completion. Online is toxic and boring. Anything with an in game currency that you can buy with real money is a no from me. I guess I grew up in a different era when games were games and not gambling scams.
Well I guess this is where different Motivations for gaming come into play. I spent 800+ hours in GTA Online and most of that time was just spending time with my friends. Never spent a single Euro for Shark Cards.
It really isn’t. The idea started great, but they focused way too much on lobby play instead of missions. And lobbies were just not good, because of tech problems and because they just gave out overpowered stuff there you can’t counter. It all just felt too much, instead of your character just being a trailer gangster. And it’s very obvious that everything is focused on you having to buy shark cards. I enjoyed 3rd party clients way more.
NMS is my Zen game. I have over 500 hours in it just in the last two years. I know the game is not for everybody. I have friends who don’t understand why I hop through the galaxies, explore systems, hunt for ships, play the expeditions, and build base after base after base, even though so much can feel repetitive for some. But for me, it became my new Minecraft - “one more brick”. I love the expansive feel of it, and find the isolation relaxing. If i want to see others i can hop over to the Anomaly or hit the community build areas. I cannot wait to see what Hello Games has come up with.
If the sheer scope and imagination of No Man’s Sky is any indication, this game is going to be every bit as ground-breaking and something truly special. I cannot wait. I just can’t. :)
Keep in mind that took years of development after NMS released. Don’t expect that this game will be perfect, or even good, on release day. If it is, the reviewers will say as much and we can all be pleasantly surprised and pick it up. But don’t hype yourself up for a game that has almost no information available yet, and is probably still early in development.
As someone who loves Jurassic Park and really, really wants a game like this, really hoping that the devs can pull this off but licensed games are very hit or miss
The game looks bad to me, I feel like the entire trailer is geared towards people who were kids when Jurassic Park 1 was fresh. Like this was a great idea! 29 years ago.
Did we watch the same trailer? This looks fucking amazing. None of this is actual gameplay footage, and about two scenes actually look like cutscenes. but it’s all been rendered IN ENGINE. Just like every other fucking Rockstar trailer to ever exist. This looks freaking insane.
People are shitting on the 2025 release date like……bruh. RDR2 took 8 years to develop. Rumors say this has been in development since 2019 or so, right after the release of RDR2. So 6-7 years which makes perfect sense. I’m not happy about the nearly two year wait but it fits with the development timeline.
Jesus christ I hope Rockstar parodies all of your asses to show how fucking negative the internet has become.
You can generate anything in-engine, it’s not representative of gameplay. Everyone does it and it’s equally shitty. It looks like a minute and a half of cutscenes and, other than character reveals it looks like a normal release. It just looks like smoothed out gta5, so like…gta5 on pc. The achievement wouldn’t be the graphics, it would be “can it maintain the graphics steadily and not drop frames”
Timeline is irrelevant, agreed. it will come out when it comes out.
It all looks great. That’s kinda the expectation tbh. It does look good, but all games “look good” at this stage. This gives rise to the other question about can it look good and be stable, even on lower end hardware (ps4/x1 and mid/low pcs) for release.
But a video is a video. I realize it’s so early and am not knocking it for lacking gameplay footage, just that generating a video in-engine is not representative of gameplay, or gameplay elements.
The game is announced for PS5 and Xbox Series exclusively.
It’s out of the question that it will be released on PS4/XBone, GTA VI will be a proper next gen (or current gen) game. And RStar would be making a fool out of themselves releasing a last gen game in 2025.
I’m guessing it won’t be released on PC for another year after the console release, but their GTA V PC Port has been optimized pretty well imho (even though they’ve pretty much abandoned it at this stage).
Rockstar has a great track record of their trailers being very close to the final game. Just look at any of their trailers and the final game. There’s not really any reason to believe it will be different this time.
I’m with you. The trailer looks incredible and I am very eagerly anticipating the game.
The trailer showed a lot of things that would likely be a part of the GTA6 story, and for that it looks like the game is geared up to be something incredibly entertaining and FUN!
My only gripe is the PC version is likely to release after consoles :(
This is definitely at least in-engine, likely actually in-game footage:
characters swimming in the water during both of the beach shots have no animations whatsoever, they just stand on the water like they’re jesus christ.
one of the container ships in the later overhead shot showing the derelict bridge is entirely untextured and extremely low res, while the rest of the environment is highly detailed
in the opening shot, parts of the city are billboarded or simple blocks to provide a basic skyline shape, while the areas around the prison are extremely detailed
The NPCs standing on the water also suggests NPCs are driven by the final actor and animation systems, but the animations for swimming or walking through water are just not done yet.
We also see a significant difference between the recreations of florida man memes, where every motion is keyframed to match the original videos, and the parts of the trailer where we see NPCs actually running their regular animation loops, as in the beach, club or road scenes.
Now, will we see this level of quality in game? Yes and no. Usually, a small elite team builds a vertical slice, a single mission in which every little mechanic already works, followed by many larger teams then building the rest of the game, trying to match the quality of the original template.
A good example of this is the original 40min E3 demo of cyberpunk 2077, which exists in the game 1:1 today. This vertical slice was awesome, but later missions usually had fewer alternative solutions, less polished environments and an overall lower interactivity.
So while I’m sure the robbery / prison / parole hearing part is fully fleshed out and will likely be included in the final game as-is, other parts of the game might not reach the same level of realism. Even if you ran the game on the same high-end workstations the developers are using.
If they take everything they learned along the way with NMS and release a polished game, this is going to be a ton of fun.
NMS is in a strange place for me, it’s a game that will clock hundreds of hours but likely will never make it on a top 10 list for me. It’s a game I can always go back to, but not something I will rave about.
If LNF hits that, I will still be very happy with it
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