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CIWS-30, do gaming w Insomniac, Blizzard, Obsidian Devs Attack Baldur's Gate 3 Scope, Call it "Rockstar-Like Nonsense"...

Nobody really expects RPG's to be as big and deep as BG3, they just want a complete game that works without shitty microtransactions everywhere and always online for no reason. Plus, having interesting characters and storylines, quests that can be solved in more than one way, and gameplay that's actually formed by taking player feedback and listening to it is what people reacted well to, among other things. Baldur's Gate 3 doesn't even have Denuvo!

If there's one thing that I hope competitors learn from Larian and BG3, it's that respecting your players and giving them what they want leads to success. Similar to Elden Ring and from software, like that video mentioned. Now compare BG3 to Diablo 4 and Immortal, or the upcoming Starfield and you'll see why people love it. It's not about specs or scope, it's about designing a game to be actually FUN.

ripcord,
@ripcord@kbin.social avatar

Wait, what's wrong with the upcoming Starfield?

Goronmon,

Nobody really expects RPG's to be as big and deep as BG3...

Just to warn you, you will now be quoted in a future video about "Social media viciously attacks Larian for games that are too big and too deep!"

TheRazorX, (edited )

It's not about specs or scope, it's about designing a game to be actually FUN.

This is the key point that these publishers and studios are trying to avoid.

  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on designing microtransaction psychologically manipulative money sinks (dark designs)?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on creating addiction in the player-base so that they keep playing the game (and spending money)?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on bullshit DLC (not actual new content)?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on bullshit to satisfy shareholders?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on shit the devs don't want, but executives do?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on bullshit padding for marketing purposes?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on bullshit DRM?

And keep in mind, by budgets here, I mean both the dollar amount AND time spent by devs that could be spent elsewhere (which is part of the dollar amount since salaries, but I wanted to make it clear that time spent is also important).

Some of the absolute best games in the industry have literally none of that, and people still want to play and buy them years after release because gasp they're actually fun, but these publishers and devs don't want to compare to those, because they WANT the industry to be a bunch of "GAAS" bullshit that's basically a vacuum pushed into people's wallets, cause hey, if it worked for Candy Crush....

lowdownfool, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic
@lowdownfool@kbin.social avatar

Is there something I can read instead of giving some jackass a view on Youtube?

Goronmon,

To summarize the actual tweets/comments/etc that these videos (there are multiple) are panicking about.

  1. Smaller studios aren't going to be able to replicate the scale and complexity of BG3. So people shouldn't be using BG3 as the bar to compare future titles/RPGs from other studios going forward. Larian is comparable in size (or even larger) to Bethesda when they released Skyrim, and no one has been able to compete directly with Skyrim either.
  2. Not all games and RPGs need to be as complex and long as BG3. Expecting open-ended, 100 hour-long RPGs for every future game/RPG isn't realistic. Not all games require that scope, it's rare to get such a budget for this type of game, and even if you did, most companies won't be able to replicate the game in a meaningful way. Just like how companies other than Rockstar would struggle to replicate the scale of games like GTA and RDR.

There, I've summarized multiple 20 min videos. Just without all the hand-waving and drama.

stopthatgirl7,
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So, I see you definitely didn’t actually watch the video.

Goronmon,

I did, did you?

stopthatgirl7,
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Considering I’m the one who posted it, yes.

Goronmon,

You would be far from the only person who has posted a link to an article/video they have never read/watched.

jeebus,
@jeebus@kbin.social avatar

It was a pretty good video with a good message. All the more surprising is that it was from IGN.

lowdownfool,
@lowdownfool@kbin.social avatar

I prefer not to sit through a 10 minute video for something that requires less than a minute reading time.

zexyqag, do games w ACE COMBAT 8: WINGS OF THEVE Announcement Trailer

Any chance of VR?

SkunkWorkz, do games w Order of the Sinking Star | Official Announcement Trailer | Jonathan Blow [1:31]

The impressive thing is that Blow created an entirely new programming language called Jai while developing this game that they made using the new programming language. That’s why it took them 10+ years to make a fricking Sokoban game.

plaguesandbacon, do games w ACE COMBAT 8: WINGS OF THEVE Announcement Trailer

I know it won’t happen, but I would kill for a mission editor in AC8

decipher_jeanne, do games w ACE COMBAT 8: WINGS OF THEVE Announcement Trailer

Okay I am adding my nerding time. The Ship seems to be modeled after USS Oriskany with SCB-27/SCB-125A refit.

heythatsprettygood,

From what I have heard, it is most likely the USS Hornet (CV-12, the museum ship, not CV-8), as Project Aces used it for 3D scans before the trailer came out. In addition, the museum staff sent out this tweet after the trailer came out:

https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/aba856fb-dc6b-4548-a3d4-5d9122766e91.webp

decipher_jeanne, do games w ACE COMBAT 8: WINGS OF THEVE Announcement Trailer

I really hope it’ll live up to the wait.

Also does it mean we will have a few mission as a WSO? That’d be interesting

MightyThistle, do games w ACE COMBAT 8: WINGS OF THEVE Announcement Trailer
@MightyThistle@lemmy.world avatar

YESSSSSSS FINALLY A NEW ACE COMBAT GAME! This looks so sick oh my god!

I enjoyed Ace Combat 7 so much it’s not even funny. It reminded me somewhat of my favourite game in the series which is Ace Combat 3. I loved that game so much I downloaded the Japanese version of it and patched it so I could appreciate the full game and the story it had to tell which got cut in the European version. Am hyped for this new instalment and was wondering if they were using UE5 based on the graphics but it looks like they’re using an in-house engine this time. Either way looks like it’s gonna be another big hit

Sterile_Technique, do gaming w Star Wars: Galactic Racer™ - Official Reveal Trailer
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

SW Racer Revenge remains the best racing game to date - if they can recreate the feel of that masterpiece, I’m in!

absquatulate, do gaming w Star Wars: Galactic Racer™ - Official Reveal Trailer

Now THIS is podracing!

WormFood, do games w Order of the Sinking Star | Official Announcement Trailer | Jonathan Blow [1:31]

I hope souja boy plays it

lilja, do games w Order of the Sinking Star | Official Announcement Trailer | Jonathan Blow [1:31]
@lilja@lemmy.ml avatar

A thousand puzzles??? Man, I am too stupid for a game like this.

Truthtwopower, do gaming w Star Wars: Galactic Racer™ - Official Reveal Trailer

This is an instant buy if they do it well. Pod racer was one of the best racing games I played.

WhatGodIsMadeOf,

Yeah the pod racing game was great!

melsaskca, do games w PS5 is outselling Switch 2

Too much money. If I had the money I’d buy both though. In the meantime…“free online games” google searches.

Aielman15, (edited ) do games w ACE COMBAT 8: WINGS OF THEVE Announcement Trailer
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

Wo-ooh, finally! I was going crazy replaying the same few missions from previous games and Project Wingman. I needed a new game so badly.

The story seems good so far! First time Sotoa’s on screen, as well. I’m a bit tired of playing as Usea again, but oh well, it is what it is.

Also the first time we have a second seat character on screen. They are usually brushed off as non-existent (despite being visible in the cockpit). It was one of the best features from Project Wingman and I’m happy it’s being carried over onto AC.

My main hope is a more fleshed out campaign with longer and more in-depth missions. After almost ten years, I really don’t want another short game with 20-ish small levels centered on some gimmick that get boring on replays. Gimme big, dynamic battlefields in the vein of Ace Combat 6 and Project Wingman, and difficulty options targeted at veterans of the series!

Tar_alcaran,

small levels centered on some gimmick that get boring on replays.

If I never have to fly through pointless glowing circles or highly dubious canyons ever again, it will still be too soon.

Aielman15,
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

The dubious canyons missions are some of the best missions of the franchise, so I’m definitely not complaining about those :D

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