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CIWS-30, do gaming w Insomniac, Blizzard, Obsidian Devs Attack Baldur's Gate 3 Scope, Call it "Rockstar-Like Nonsense"...

Nobody really expects RPG's to be as big and deep as BG3, they just want a complete game that works without shitty microtransactions everywhere and always online for no reason. Plus, having interesting characters and storylines, quests that can be solved in more than one way, and gameplay that's actually formed by taking player feedback and listening to it is what people reacted well to, among other things. Baldur's Gate 3 doesn't even have Denuvo!

If there's one thing that I hope competitors learn from Larian and BG3, it's that respecting your players and giving them what they want leads to success. Similar to Elden Ring and from software, like that video mentioned. Now compare BG3 to Diablo 4 and Immortal, or the upcoming Starfield and you'll see why people love it. It's not about specs or scope, it's about designing a game to be actually FUN.

ripcord,
@ripcord@kbin.social avatar

Wait, what's wrong with the upcoming Starfield?

Goronmon,

Nobody really expects RPG's to be as big and deep as BG3...

Just to warn you, you will now be quoted in a future video about "Social media viciously attacks Larian for games that are too big and too deep!"

TheRazorX, (edited )

It's not about specs or scope, it's about designing a game to be actually FUN.

This is the key point that these publishers and studios are trying to avoid.

  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on designing microtransaction psychologically manipulative money sinks (dark designs)?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on creating addiction in the player-base so that they keep playing the game (and spending money)?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on bullshit DLC (not actual new content)?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on bullshit to satisfy shareholders?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on shit the devs don't want, but executives do?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on bullshit padding for marketing purposes?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on bullshit DRM?

And keep in mind, by budgets here, I mean both the dollar amount AND time spent by devs that could be spent elsewhere (which is part of the dollar amount since salaries, but I wanted to make it clear that time spent is also important).

Some of the absolute best games in the industry have literally none of that, and people still want to play and buy them years after release because gasp they're actually fun, but these publishers and devs don't want to compare to those, because they WANT the industry to be a bunch of "GAAS" bullshit that's basically a vacuum pushed into people's wallets, cause hey, if it worked for Candy Crush....

lowdownfool, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic
@lowdownfool@kbin.social avatar

Is there something I can read instead of giving some jackass a view on Youtube?

Goronmon,

To summarize the actual tweets/comments/etc that these videos (there are multiple) are panicking about.

  1. Smaller studios aren't going to be able to replicate the scale and complexity of BG3. So people shouldn't be using BG3 as the bar to compare future titles/RPGs from other studios going forward. Larian is comparable in size (or even larger) to Bethesda when they released Skyrim, and no one has been able to compete directly with Skyrim either.
  2. Not all games and RPGs need to be as complex and long as BG3. Expecting open-ended, 100 hour-long RPGs for every future game/RPG isn't realistic. Not all games require that scope, it's rare to get such a budget for this type of game, and even if you did, most companies won't be able to replicate the game in a meaningful way. Just like how companies other than Rockstar would struggle to replicate the scale of games like GTA and RDR.

There, I've summarized multiple 20 min videos. Just without all the hand-waving and drama.

stopthatgirl7,
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So, I see you definitely didn’t actually watch the video.

Goronmon,

I did, did you?

stopthatgirl7,
!deleted7120 avatar

Considering I’m the one who posted it, yes.

Goronmon,

You would be far from the only person who has posted a link to an article/video they have never read/watched.

jeebus,
@jeebus@kbin.social avatar

It was a pretty good video with a good message. All the more surprising is that it was from IGN.

lowdownfool,
@lowdownfool@kbin.social avatar

I prefer not to sit through a 10 minute video for something that requires less than a minute reading time.

SkunkWorkz, do games w Nex Playground review

You could get a modded Xbox 360 + Kinect for cheaper than this. It’s not like young kids care so much about graphics anyway.

mriormro, do games w Nex Playground review

I think I still have my ouya somewhere.

philophilsaurus, do games w Nex Playground review

I keep seeing people liken this to the Kinect but the PlayStation eye-toy seems like a way better comparison.

tyrant, do games w Nex Playground review

Why is Jesus holding this cube?

mesamunefire, do games w Nex Playground review
@mesamunefire@piefed.social avatar

Kinda a long video, but the gist of it is: 1. Its out of the box experience is really good in that in comes with games. 2. Really bad at setup, subscriptions 3. Lots of Fruit Ninja and Bluey.

Infernal_pizza, do games w Rockstar vs. Union: What Really Happened at Court? | People Make Games

Tl:dw for anyone who isn’t in a position to watch the video, the evidence provided by Rockstar is a complete joke as expected, but apparently that wasn’t enough to convince the judge to grant interim relief. I highly recommend watching the whole video if you get the chance though, PMG have been doing a very good job of covering this topic so far.

GreyCat, do games w Standing on a Button for 8 Hours Breaks Portal 2 | Msushi

I always love these kinds of videos on portal.

reksas, do games w Standing on a Button for 8 Hours Breaks Portal 2 | Msushi

literally unplayable

vogi, do games w Standing on a Button for 8 Hours Breaks Portal 2 | Msushi
@vogi@piefed.social avatar

This is giving A-Button Challenge vibes and i’m all for it.

silverchase,
@silverchase@sh.itjust.works avatar

My favourite type of video about games

bjoern_tantau, do games w Standing on a Button for 8 Hours Breaks Portal 2 | Msushi
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

As long as they don’t remove the coconut picture…

slazer2au,

Load bearing coconut.jpg

TeamTeddy, do games w How TF2 Still Makes Millions (With No Updates)
@TeamTeddy@lemmy.world avatar

The TF2 economy is so insane, whenever I get a glimpse at it it’s like a whole other world. One that I want to stay far, FAR away from.

FatVegan,

I played 1000s of hours of tf2. The last time was probably like 6 years ago. I still get weekly friend invites on steam from people who only play counter strike and tf2. I know exactly why, and it’s weird.

northernlights,

Why?

SolarPunker, do games w How TF2 Still Makes Millions (With No Updates)

Everyone have a good word for Valve as a publisher but it’s sad to see some of the most talented game designers in the history publishing their last good game 15 years ago.

favoredponcho,

And what counts as a release these days is just some remaster of a game that was popular a decade or two ago.

ChairmanMeow,
@ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

Half-Life Alyx came out in 2020 and was pretty good.

themusicman,

Deadlock is a fantastic game, albeit unreleased

REDACTED,

Developer, not publisher. They made their own games.

als, do games w How TF2 Still Makes Millions (With No Updates)

Gambling, the answer is loot boxes.

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