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Yazer, do games w You teleport into the last game world you played. What happens next?

I’d land in a minefield, with only numbers to help me out.

RandomStickman,
@RandomStickman@kbin.social avatar
Damaskox,
@Damaskox@lemmy.world avatar

Minesweeper, eh? Tried it a few times but didn’t stick on me 😅

bappity,
@bappity@lemmy.world avatar

landmines aren’t sticky silly

Damaskox,
@Damaskox@lemmy.world avatar

Meant that the game didn’t grab my interest

Vordus,

That’s fair. It’s one of the most minimal abstract puzzle games ever made, so there’s not a lot to grab onto.

randompepsi, do piracy w Is It Farewell To The Internet Archive?

Sci Hub is not down or did I miss something?

gressen,

Looks fine from here.

florge,

Zlib still works as well

MalReynolds,
@MalReynolds@slrpnk.net avatar

No longer taking new papers for a couple of years? now. Crying shame and a pox on scientific advancement.

empireOfLove, do gaming w What Pokémon Go could've been.
@empireOfLove@lemmy.one avatar

It’s like a minimum viable product with a vaguely addicting gameplay loop.

You could have just stopped there. Every mass-market mobile game ends up in this trap.

butter,

Lol. Yeah, pretty much

LSNLDN,

sad that we’re at this point. when I was young I loved Pokemon and imagined where it could go in the future. was SO EXCITED to hear pokemon go announced. apart from a week or two of social interactions when everyone had got the game all at once, it had no longevity and that was that. it could have been so beautiful!

projectazar,
@projectazar@kbin.social avatar

Honestly, a minimum viable product is entirely what Pokemon Go was designed to be. It exists to extract behavioral surplus from users and convert it into valuable action by inviting users to go to certain places in a community through placement of Pokestops and Gyms. Basically a tool to drive foot traffic, which Niantic can (and does) sell to businesses that want to drive that foot traffic. It worked brilliantly for years and still is a somewhat effective method of driving advertising and sales for real world businesses.

dQw4w9WgXcQ,

The prequal, Ingress, was even simpler, but that probably made it better as a long run game. There were portals to harvest and a simple system to create triangles between portals to claim territories. Nothing overly complex, and no expectations to bring gameplay mechanics from an other game.

Ingress was obviously dead as soon as Niantic launched the much more popular Pokémon Go. Of course fantastic for Niantic, but I just feel like Ingress would have been a game I would have played for a lot longer if Pokémon Go didn’t happen.

BillDaCatt, do games w How the hell is there not a Green Arrow video game?

Because Warner Brothers owns the rights to all DC games right now and nobody at Warner has any idea how to actually produce good video games. The Arkham games were good because they came out before loot boxes and online-only games were a thing. Now if a game doesn’t earn a billion dollars in the first year, the game is considered a failure.

Squizzy,

WB have made MK boring

kamiheku, do gaming w I ain't got time to worry about your sleep schedule.
Qkall, (edited )
@Qkall@lemmy.ml avatar

There’s a mod that makes the NPCs freak out if you wake them up… It impacts nothing but its pretty funny

kamiheku,

lmao I need to see that

Qkall,
@Qkall@lemmy.ml avatar
PushButton, do games w Is it time to start a campaign against kernel-level anticheat?

Money talks.

Don’t buy the game.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Right, well they are trying to start a campaign to popularize the comment you just made. Or at least that’s my understanding

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

So do mega-corporations with more money than God, like Microsoft.

And they already said no to root-level anti-cheats.

intensely_human,

Money mumbles. Don’t buy the game, and also actively notify the company of your decision and why. Twitter, feedback form, steam review, whatever channel lets you get that message across.

boonhet,

This doesn’t work. It will never work. You can’t shame conscious consumers into voting with their wallets while the other 99% keeps buying the bad practices.

Thing is, if nobody on Lemmy, and literally nobody in general who cares about anticheat, buys GTA 6, you know what effect that would have on the company’s bottom line? None, they’ll make record profits.

Maalus,

So now you try to convince the 99% of players that are buying the bad practices, that a magic (to them) program that prevents cheaters is bad (since “has too much access” doesn’t really explain anything). They don’t care and won’t care.

boonhet,

Exactly.

It’s like promoting Linux to people: Why would I care that my operating system is open source? Or free for that matter if I pirate it anyway?

Some people never will care.

InFerNo,

They applaud it even.

GhiLA,
@GhiLA@sh.itjust.works avatar

…still not buying it.

FeelzGoodMan420,

Absolute dogshit strategy. 99% of people will always buy the game so you not buying won’t matter in the slightest. Unfortunate but true.

BombOmOm,
@BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

Why would they listen to your personal complaint if you, singular, are going to buy it anyway? Your voice only matters to a company if it means you won’t buy their product otherwise. Don’t buy the game, then tell them why you didn’t.

FeelzGoodMan420,

You’re not listening to what I said. I said that most people will buy the game and there is not a damn thing you can do about it. Most people are fucking idiots. You can morally decide not to support it by not buying the game, and that’s perfectly reasonable. But it won’t do fucking shit because all the idiots will still buy the game. That’s just how the world works because most people don’t give a fuck. Unless you can personally convince millions of people to change their behavior and agree with you, you not buying the game doesn’t matter.

bitwolf,

There is a network effect to popular games.
However as more people stop buying the network effect gets weaker.

Its happening visibly with the new Call of Duty. Many i know bought it and then stopped playing shortly after because much of their friends are waiting for sales now or just find the game bad.

Those people will be thinking twice before buying next year.

BombOmOm,
@BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly, every time I say ‘I’m thinking of putting up a Factorio server, you want in?’, they are significantly less likely to be playing (or paying for) the newest game that has kernel-level access. Why, because we are playing Factorio for the next few weeks together and Factorio is fun.

Factorio isn’t the only game we play, but the point is to reinforce yours. If you are playing fun game x, your friends are more likely to play x instead of something else. Even if they have no care about Kernel-Level access, the fact you do affects their buying (and playing) patterns.

UnderpantsWeevil, do gaming w The worst of both worlds
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Not just the costumes. They green screened the fuck out of that scene. Wonder if they shot the whole thing on a sound stage and tried to AI in the entirety of the background? This has all the earmarks of a “Are you piggies willing to pay $20 a ticket for entrance to the slop show?”

snooggums,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

They made the Willy Wonka Meth Lab version of Minecraft?

rustyfish, do games w #StopKillingGames Update: Sweden and Poland pass threshold as initiative reaches 25%
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Fine! I’m signing it!

Germany at 75.47%. We’re a bunch of slackers aren’t we?

Lampenoel,

I already did my part, but might as well spread the word among my friends.

Corngood, do gaming w if i had a nickel for every time...

That is weird.

For anyone else struggling with it, Mirrors Edge actually does end with a song called Still Alive.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzmUde_EK5Y

PapaStevesy,

I reeeeeally don’t think Portal qualifies as an FPS, but aight.

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

IMO you don’t have to be shooting bullets to qualify as a shooter

kuoushi, do games w What games had easy soft locks that prevented you from either progressing or getting a true ending?

I managed to soft lock the new Pokemon Snap game in the tutorial where they had you take a picture of a Butterfree (I think is the right Pokemon). Somehow when I took a picture, it flapped its wings and turned enough that it was flat in the picture and couldn’t be selected when you were at the next phase of the tutorial selecting the shot to show the Professor Oak stand in. You couldn’t go back to take another picture, so I was effectively unable to continue the game from there. I was pretty proud of my bad picture taking skills.

Wizarded,

Lol I guess it never “snapped” out of it?

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

Damn, Professor Oak fired your ass.

"No, you can't go back, this is fucking awful, give me that camera back."

odium, do piracy w Is Direct Connect still 'a thing'?

I’ve got bad news for you, what you consider a few years ago is two entire decades.

earthling,
@earthling@kbin.social avatar

No, that can't be right.

feral_hedgehog,
@feral_hedgehog@pawb.social avatar

Yeah no way, the 90s were something like 10 years ago and… wait now we’re in…
Ohh… Ohh no…

Atemu, do gaming w "X is about to change forever!"
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

I was wondering what Twitter had to do with gaming…

WarmSoda,

“Well you see games are a form of technology and Twitter uses technology so Twitter news belongs here too”

metaStatic,

"Well you see, if you don't like the rules of the game you just buy out the parent company and change them"

Stillhart,

Oh right, I forgot that people insist on humoring that change. I feel like if everyone keeps just calling it Twitter, he’ll just quietly change it back.

Regardless, X was used to represent a variable for about a thousand years longer than Musk has been using it, so I will keep using it that way too.

MagicShel,

Keep it up. For me, that confusion is part of the entertainment. No one will know what the fuck anyone is talking about when they say “X”, necessitating an overly complex explanation every time. Fuck everything about X.

thingsiplay,
@thingsiplay@kbin.social avatar

@MagicShel If everyone says Twitter, then it is less confusing then if some talk about X.

theangriestbird,

it’s not that I want to think of that loser more than we have to, it’s that i see the title of your post on the feed and for a brief moment i think it’s a headline from a news community. Like @MagicShel said, keep it up.

exu,

Could’ve used foo instead of X. Most programmers would get it, I think.

Might not work for everyone here though.

TwilightVulpine,

The game is getting all those likes or something

adam_y, (edited ) do games w Gaming has a polarization problem
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think this is a gaming problem.

It is a discourse problem.

People engage in absolutes. They either love a thing or hate a thing. There’s no nuance.

And it must be made to cater for them, there’s no expectation that it will contain choices they don’t approve of.

And this stance, this modern relationship with the world permeates everything, especially forms of media.

You see it in films and books… Fans and stans and folk trying to take it down. There is no nuance or middle ground.

People don’t accept that, perhaps, something isn’t just “not for them”. That’s why you get grown men complaining about the direction of children’s shows they used to watch.

And this is compounded with social media where polarisation, blunt takes and contradiction are the primary drivers of engagement.

Audience error.

Artyom,

It’s absolutely not just a gaming problem. Movie reviews are getting more and more bandwagon-y. Only a few reviewers post in the first day or two, and everyone else says “okay, they hated it, now I have to hate it too or I’m going to lose credibility”. I think it’s the inevitable outcome of having less famous reviewers, a NYT columnist can post what they feel, but a small blog can fall into obscurity if they have one contrarian review.

The only part that’s unique to gaming is that gamers are the most toxic community in the internet.

adam_y,
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

The only part that’s unique to gaming is that gamers are the most toxic community in the internet.

I wish this wasn’t as true as it is.

Sunsofold,

Don’t forget the vocal minority problem. The subset of people who comment on things is much smaller than the set of people who consume them. And while the threshold of effort for making comment is low, it isn’t zero, so people who hold more extreme views are going to be more prevalent in the selection because the people with moderate views aren’t going to have the motivation to spend 20 minutes explaining the nuanced position they have, while the ‘love’ and ‘hate’ camps will gladly spend 10 seconds on posting their simplistic view.

Add on the way modern systems work, focusing on likes, upvotes, etc. and you get short form responses getting greater engagement purely because they don’t take as long to read. It’s always easier to get traction with a short, maybe amusing, rehash of a common opinion than with a long dissertation on niche, complex views.

That cycles back in at the top to create a visibility bias so the people making the next round of commentary/content see the wave of love/hate and try to ride it. The result is a feedback loop with a terrible signal to noise ratio.

anakin78z,
@anakin78z@lemmy.world avatar

People don’t accept that, perhaps, something isn’t just “not for them”

I think this is my favorite comment on this whole thread.

RightHandOfIkaros, do gaming w *Got away safely*

Thats just code for “I am jealous that your hobby makes you happy.”

That’s a massive red flag.

peopleproblems,

Wait hold on

That makes too much sense get out of here

Zink,

And when you have that miserable attitude long enough, it starts to feel wrong when your OWN hobbies or activities make you happy.

It sounds simple, but that shit runs deep when you’re raised in it.

1985MustangCobra,
@1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca avatar

I don’t know about that, there are other hobbies people participate in that women find “attractive”. So far my hobbies of video games and programming have scared away any partners…

missingno, do games w What are your favorite "gotta go in blind" games?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Undertale, but at this point you'd have to have lived in a cave for the last decade to not know most of the spoilers by now.

superkret,

Well, apparently I have!
The only thing I’ve heard about Undertale so far is that it is supposed to be good.

ZeroTwo,

That’s all Ive heard too. I tried playing it but the combat was weird. Kinda boring to me so I never advanced further.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Same. Fehlt like a very early game experiment.

ABCDE,

Yeah I didn’t really get it. I did play Everhood though and that was much better.

WarlordSdocy,

It gets good by the end but yeah if you don’t mesh with it early on it can be hard to get into and want to finish it.

Hugin,

Yeah that happened to me. Never finished it and wonder why it’s so loved.

WarlordSdocy,

Yeah I almost had that happen with me but I think I ended up watching someone play it. Still kind of regret it but at the same time probably wouldn’t have finished it on my own otherwise and I atleast have Deltarune to look forward to now.

HexesofVexes,

It’s good in a way that isn’t really expected - the only thing I can say without spoiling is it did something really different with things that had been there a long time.

Glide,

Undertale is such a bolt of lightning. It both depends on its player having experience with traditional JRPG and having no fucking clue what it is. But when the conditions line up, as it did for many people at release, it was such a master fully crafted experience. But even the slightest amount of “it’s good because…” really siphons part of the experience away.

korny,

Spoiler: There are high jinks, low jinks, dangers, puzzles, capers, japers, being captured, and other sorts of fun activities in this game.

mox,
Hadriscus,

I have heard the name but don’t know what it’s about, I’ll look into it. Thanks !

Kelly,

I’ll look into it.

No, don’t!

Or at least don’t do anymore than choose your preferred platform and then buy it. Its available on Windows, Linux, Mac, PS, Xbox and Switch but not on Android or iOS.

Its a couple of bucks on steam at the moment, included in PSN if you do that, or full price everywhere else.

Hadriscus,

hop just got it. Thanks for the recommendation. Let’s see what this is all about 😁

SaharaMaleikuhm,

Guess I live in a cave then. I have even had the game on steam for ages now. The graphics are just too much of a turn off for me to ever play it.

Black616Angel,

Tbh, I played it for a few hours, didn’t like it and don’t understand all the fuss about it. Does it get good later?

I was at a point, where I was going through a cave with a castle in the background (it was a few years ago), it was probably some kind of riddle, but I couldn’t be bothered.
Is it worth going forward or did I see enough to just say “it’s not my kind of game”?

PugJesus,

I’m gonna be the heretic here, it’s actually really terrible. If you don’t like Homestuck and that brand of humor, you won’t like Undertale.

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