Can everyone please stop claiming and speculating that Valve’s new hardware will be loss leaders? If you watch LTT and Gamers Nexus’s first videos on the announcement, they actually spoke with Valve’s engineers. And the Valve representatives already said that the new hardware WILL NOT BE LOSS LEADERS....
I would be happy to wait and see but idiots online keep trying to insist it’ll be $2,000 even though the hardware isn’t close to worth that much. Some of these people are big influencers and really should know better.
As you say valve are incentivised to do this because it will move more people over to Linux. I suspect that they want that more than they’re really bothered about hardware sales so while I don’t think it’ll be sold at a loss, because frankly that would be stupid even if they could afford to do it, but I don’t think it’ll be anywhere near as expensive as some people seem to be claiming.
The steam frame controllers use AA batteries, the steam controller has a lithium ion internal battery.
Also it does have a USB port but the primary charging method is via the pogo pins. But obviously you might want to recharge from a wall outlet so they also include a USB port. But that’s obviously going to get used far less often than it would otherwise.
For the same reason that people are interested in the steam machine. It’s nice to be able to just throw some money at people and get a complete product. I can see businesses getting these things if they need a moderately powerful GPU for business reasons. Unless valve go utterly mad on the pricing here, it’s going to be much better value for money than a Mac mini, and it’ll have better compatibility with existing software as well.
Personally I don’t think I would say that most people would consider a $1,000 PC to be entry level. To me entry level means something that a kid could save up their pocket money for in a reasonable amount of time maybe with a paper route to supplement. I’d say entry level ends at about $700 just to throw a number out there. For $1,000 you could get a PS5 and a PSVR2
The other problem is that the tariffs could be totally different by the time it releases. I fully suspect that the tariffs are the reason that we haven’t got a price yet.
It would be funny if it is noticeably more expensive in the US though like with the Switch 2.
I thought it was very funny that I only even heard about concord existing when it was announced the service was shutting down. I feel like they didn’t know advertising for it
Yeah which makes me think that it was six of one and half a dozen of the other.
Terrible marketing and fairly mediocre gameplay.
Although obviously I don’t know because like pretty much everyone else I never actually played it. And I like hero shooters and even played overwatch semi-professionally, so I would have been in the circles that would have heard about it, if Sony had bothered to tell anyone.
Yeah there’s some complication with it where it’s not 100% supported, but I didn’t quite understand because he didn’t go into detail. I got the sense though that it’s a technicality and basically is fine, but officially it isn’t supported.
It will be interesting to see if Meta have any real response to this. They obviously never expected to have any competition so they got a scummy as possible with it. Now that they actually have competition they’re sort of stuck, their only real response is to become more consumer-friendly, which is basically impossible because of their corporate culture.
You could say that about any game. If you’re not interested in the game you’re not going to play it for a very long time but that’s not a failing of the concept.
Pavlov is a VR game that I’ve probably got hundreds of hours in. I’ve had four or five gaming sessions because you tend to get sucked in.
Yeah I don’t get nauseous in VR I don’t know why some people do. The only thing I have noticed is that if there’s a lot of spinning around particularly in ultra wings I tend to fall over.
I actually find that things like the vignette that you get when moving in some VR games actually makes me feel uncomfortable so I always have to go into the settings and turn all that stuff off.
Apparently OLED has issues with brightness. VR lenses tend to cut out an awful lot of light (I’ve seen a lot of unhelpful diagrams with lines on them that try to explain the problem) so you need a system that outputs a lot of light or you need to use much more expensive lenses.
My guess is valve had a price point and using the better lenses would significantly cut into that.
It’s worth pointing out that I’m pretty sure the PlayStation VR uses the same lenses. I’ve never had a problem with that so I doubt it’ll be a major issue.
The Vision Pro isn’t available outside of North America, has barely no apps and doesn’t support gaming, so I don’t know how Apple expect this to become a major product for them.
The frame fixes basically all of those issues, much wider availability although still not global, supports games and it’s basically a PC so you can edit an Excel document in VR if for some reason that’s what you want to do, has controllers so you’re not relying on finger tracking exclusively, and actually has a decent store of content. Oh and the battery is both larger in capacity and more sensibly designed so that it’s actually part of the device rather than this weird dangly thing you always have to have.
The only downside is an inability to allow me to see my office at the same time. It’s not like the vision pro lets you actually keep the laptop display on anyway so being able to see it isn’t a huge advantage.
It would have been nice if it had colour pass through, but I also don’t really care that it’s not present.
It’s a VR headset so no one really cares about the cameras. The only headset with cameras that are any good is on the Apple Pro which is ludicrously expensive. The quest 3s cameras are fine but you can’t really read a display while wearing it so they’re basically useless for AR stuff.
Yeah but he can’t possibly know that. Valve wouldn’t be drawn on the price so that’s not based on something they’ve said to him that’s just what he personally thinks.
I feel like Valve are more than smart enough to know that a $1,000 headset won’t sell. Especially in the US, internationally they might be able to get away with that price, but even then people are going to be comparing it to the index and asking why the index has been EOLed and replaced with a headset of the same price.
Really I don’t think so. I don’t know quite where you’re getting your prices from because I could definitely build assembly spec computer for under $700, especially if I was building in bulk which obviously Valve are.
I feel like they know that no one’s going to buy it at $1,000.
Yeah I’m thinking that it’ll be around $500 to $600 for the base model and maybe $550 to $650 for the two terabyte model. After all its upgradable so there’s not really any point them trying to price gouge anyone on the storage.
The general consensus I’ve seen from people is that it will be sub 1K simply because they know it has to be in order to be profitable. The only people who think it’s going to be over 1k seem to be people who don’t actually know that it’s not really a super powerful system, they advertised it as being seven times more powerful than the steam deck, but the steam deck itself is not exactly a powerhouse in fact the switch 2 is more powerful.
You’re paying for the fact that it’s tiny, the fact that it’s not a window system, and for the convenience of just being able to throw some money at someone and have a fairly decent gaming system without having to mock about in the weeds, because a lot of people don’t like that aspect of PC building.
My point is that no one really cares about the cameras because this is a VR headset, it isn’t trying to be everything to everyone. I also don’t really think anyone cares about apple’s “spatial computing” (AR), perhaps if they actually had more applications people would be interested, but they don’t.
As with most games I’m just not going to get it day one and wait for the reviews. It’s not like they’re going to run out of stock so there’s no harm in delaying things.
I want to see what they do with the RP side of things, as there are rumours of a proper RP mode, which would make online play actually bearable. But since it’s just rumours with no evidence, I’m going to wait.
Japan’s patent office has rejected a Nintendo application related to its Palworld lawsuit, citing a lack of originality. The decision raises questions about the validity of several Nintendo patents describing creature capture systems that are central to the company’s complaint against Palworld....
This should be some sort of award for getting a patent denied in Japan. They grant patents on vague ill defined concepts all the time, so if it’s been rejected it’s really been rejected.
Japan once granted a patent on the concept of “doing something while the game loads”, Which is why we had all those tips screens for years, they weren’t allowed to do anything interactive. I think this all came tumbling down when assassin’s creed allowed you to wander around a blank empty void during loading. Such innovation.
The Covenant might be religious fanatics but they’re actually capable of working with other religious fanatics, in mutual cooperation.
MAGAs are more like Species 8472, utterly hostile to anything that doesn’t conform to their very narrow and ill informed worldview, even to the point of being hostile to potential allies, thus alienating them.
Surely he knows that Fortnite is itself the clone. He has to know that they didn’t start the battle royale genre they just cutesy it up and monetize the hell out of it.
It was actually a good game when it was in beta and the building mechanics actually had some sort of point. Then they pivoted and went in the battle of royale genre and it became a microtransaction lootbox nightmare.
“For quality games media, I continue to believe that the best form of stability is dedicated reader bases to remove reliance on funds, and a hybrid of direct reader funding and advertisements. If people want to keep reading quality content from full time professionals, they need to support it or lose it. That’s never been...
That’s because a lot of the reviews weren’t been read because they weren’t trustworthy, if you reviewed a game poorly (even if it deserved the poor review) the journalist wouldn’t be invited back to review the next game that studio put out or were still the publisher could blacklist you blocking you from potentially dozens of games every year. Nintendo do this all the time.
I’ll say that you state that as fact, but it’s a perception that not everyone shares.
I’ve said this in my own top level comment but it’s worth reiterating here to just make the point. Nobody trusts games media anymore and they don’t trust them because they do things like the above screenshot and engage in articles for access, in real journalism stuff like that is supposed to be disclosed. However the only ones that actually ever seem to bother are YouTubers with integrity.
I think the idea that quality is degrading is not a niche opinion by any stretch of the imagination. It’s basically the majority viewpoint of gamers.
They’re really aren’t any other good game reviewers. They used to be Nerd Cubed but he doesn’t seem to do game reviews anymore. There’s Sid Alpha, but if he feels particularly frisky he’ll put out a whole two videos a year, so that’s not very helpful.
It feels like it's really getting out of hand and the language of the negative reviews seems really fake too. I just bought a game that got review bombed and it was fine. From the reviews it sounded like it was going to destroy my graphics card, corrupt my hard drive and be full of bugs. Luckily I watched some gameplay vids and...
I think the point is that Chinese review bots are usually trying to dunk on Western games. It seems to be some brilliant new strategy they’ve come up with.
“If we poorly review Western games everyone will buy ours instead”, I’m sure it’ll work brilliantly.
I’ve been replaying a lot of the classics recently, and just like with Combs when I rewatch a Star Trek series, I keep finding myself saying “fuck, that’s him too?”...
There was some military strategy game which was voiced by Will Wheaton. I remember you had to control the characters with voice command, and that was a very new and novel idea and so when playing online people forgot that that meant that you could hear what orders they were giving their units.
The fact that he knows that people won’t believe him is hilarious. It means he’s fully aware that he has a problem and has never taken any steps to fix it.
He wants to rejuvenate his reputation but the time to do that was about 25-30 years ago. If you make one game and you’ve over promised on it, the very next game has to be your redemption, or you go CDPR route and you fix it, you can’t do it decades later.
He actually does know how to make good games, but the problems start as soon as he’s put in front of a camera.
Don’t have him going on TV and talking about the game. In fact make it a term of his employment that is not allowed to mention the game at all in any environment. Just take his phone off him basically. If he was just left alone to develop a game it would be fine. All common sense goes out the window as soon as he’s interviewed.
I have this clever idea for a starship game where you can explore the universe. What I’m going to do to fund development, and it’s totally not a scam, is to sell starships for real money. At first of course you won’t be able to do anything with the ships because I haven’t actually developed the game yet, but in just 10 to 15 to 20 to 30 years there might actually be a game, possibly.
They accidentally made a really good Star wars game several years ago, but when they noticed they abandoned it. All the reviews for it were basically along on the lines of, this is really good, but don’t expect any updates.
It saves so much time for him to be buying a failed company. It cuts out all the leg work he has to do.
If a company bought EA it would make sense if they were buying it for the IP. Someone who actually knows how to run a business could probably turn it around, but why is he buying it does he have another game studio that I’m not aware of?
What you on about, there’s always been crappy game releases. There’s a reason “can it run crisis” became a meme. That game is a lot older than 10 years old and it was a unoptimized mess when it was released.
I don’t understand exactly why but they’re not storing the computed shaders so you constantly have to redo it. But it also shouldn’t be taking that long anyway. It takes the new battlefield maybe 30 seconds to do this, so something weird is going on in the background.
That wouldn’t protect you either since the risk is fraud not anything digital. None of this would have been able to happen had people not been able to get fraudulent software on his computer. If they can get software on computers that can take malicious actions, then even having it on a virtual machine won’t help you since it still needs to be connected to the internet to be useful.
An active antivirus system would have prevented this. Windows built-in antivirus system is horse dung. I’m pretty sure even the free tier of malware bites would have dealt with this.
Valve's new hardware will NOT be loss leaders angielski
Can everyone please stop claiming and speculating that Valve’s new hardware will be loss leaders? If you watch LTT and Gamers Nexus’s first videos on the announcement, they actually spoke with Valve’s engineers. And the Valve representatives already said that the new hardware WILL NOT BE LOSS LEADERS....
Sony’s Concord Is Playable Again Thanks To Fan-Made Custom Servers (thegamepost.com) angielski
It’s early stages and buggy, but it’s on its way. All games, even bland, boring, or bad ones, deserve to remain playable.
Steam Hardware [new Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and VR headset Steam Frame, coming in 2026] (store.steampowered.com) angielski
No prices yet. I may never financially recover from this.
‘Grand Theft Auto VI’ Is Postponed Again — to November 2026 (www.bloomberg.com) angielski
At this rate, the PS6 will be out by the time this game is ready.
Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies" (www.gamesradar.com) angielski
Nintendo's Creature Capture Patent Dealt Blow Amid Palworld Lawsuit (gamerant.com) angielski
Japan’s patent office has rejected a Nintendo application related to its Palworld lawsuit, citing a lack of originality. The decision raises questions about the validity of several Nintendo patents describing creature capture systems that are central to the company’s complaint against Palworld....
US government uses Halo images in a call to 'destroy' immigration, Microsoft declines to comment (www.pcgamer.com) angielski
Over 47% of Stop Killing Games Signatures Have Already Been Verified (80.lv) angielski
The initiative has reached the required signature threshold in 15 countries, with Germany and France – the two largest – expected to follow suit.
Ex-PlayStation boss says the games industry is "littered" with Fortnite clones and "people trying to do Overwatch with different skins," but keep dreaming if you're just trying to get "big sacks of money" (www.gamesradar.com) angielski
More than 1,200 games journalists have left the media in the last two years | VGC (www.videogameschronicle.com) angielski
“For quality games media, I continue to believe that the best form of stability is dedicated reader bases to remove reliance on funds, and a hybrid of direct reader funding and advertisements. If people want to keep reading quality content from full time professionals, they need to support it or lose it. That’s never been...
Is it me or does it seem like review bombing on Steam has become so much worse recently? angielski
It feels like it's really getting out of hand and the language of the negative reviews seems really fake too. I just bought a game that got review bombed and it was fine. From the reviews it sounded like it was going to destroy my graphics card, corrupt my hard drive and be full of bugs. Luckily I watched some gameplay vids and...
Man, seems like Jim Cummings is to classic CRPGs as Jeffrey Combs is to Star Trek. angielski
I’ve been replaying a lot of the classics recently, and just like with Combs when I rewatch a Star Trek series, I keep finding myself saying “fuck, that’s him too?”...
Emperor of overpromising Peter Molyneux says he's done with games after Masters of Albion, which is also his 'redemption title' (www.pcgamer.com) angielski
New Steam study alleges that Valve's store is home to extreme right-wing "wars" (www.pcgamesn.com) angielski
It's official: EA is going private. (bsky.app) angielski
In a deal involving a company owned by Jared Kushner, a company that is basically just the Saudis, and $20B of debt.
Borderlands 4 Dev Gearbox Asks PC Gamers to Wait 15 Minutes for Shaders to Compile in the Background While Playing After Reports Indicate Recent Update Causes Stuttering - IGN (www.ign.com) angielski
Premium experience for premium gamers /s
Borderlands 4 Nintendo Switch 2 Version Delayed Indefinitely (insider-gaming.com) angielski
Block Blasters: Theft of $32k in crypto from a stage 4 cancer patient due to valve’s incompetence in allowing malware on their platform (video.twimg.com) angielski
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