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balderdash9, do gaming w Bethesda says most of Starfield's 1000+ planets are dull on purpose

I’m getting no mans sky release flashbacks. Hopefully they keep working on it like the no mans sky team did

Faydaikin, (edited )
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

I guess that depends on the amount of copies sold and the ‘refund ratio’.

If both are within acceptable parameters, they won’t do anything. Just leave it to the modding community to fix whatever needs fixing. They already have your money, don’t they…

It’s the Bethesda way.

supercriticalcheese,

I really don’t think it’s anything like that.

It’s a design decision, in the sense a bit like elite dangerous where the planet generation is realistic, as far as we know, even at the expense of being boring.

dangblingus, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

Yeah, we optimized. We didn’t do it well, but it happened!

mp3, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

The missing part is that the user with a 4090 complaining had a CPU from 2017 🥴 https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/b8c595d0-663f-45d4-b60e-e8738b8945b7.png

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

What’s a CPU bottleneck? I have the magic gpu

capt_wolf,
@capt_wolf@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I’m not buying that either. I’m on a 2014 i7 and a 3060 playing on ultra. My sole issue was not running on an SSD which I resolved yesterday. That kid is clearly playing on a potato and lying.

NewNewAccount,

At what framerate?

Piecemakers3Dprints,
@Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world avatar

Lying at any framerate is still lying.

NuPNuA,

I’m shocked at home many PC users are still running HDDs given that SSDs have been standard ok consoles for three years now.

Viking_Hippie,

They’ve pretty much been standard for gaming and containing the os on PC for 5 if not more. HDDs are still good for storage, but only luddites and people trying to save money in the stupidest way would have their games on them.

rambaroo, (edited )

Playing on ultra on a 3060 ? So you’re getting 20-30 fps? Because that’s what it gets on mine with a much newer CPU. I had to turn it down to med-high to average 45 fps

Annoyed_Crabby,

Lol, dude used up all the money to get a GPU.

Vordus,

Considering that this thing runs great on a Series S (which is CPU-heavy, but with a weak graphics card) that makes so much more sense.

rambaroo,

Gotta love the Bethesda fanboys upvoting this one cherry picked comment. They’re are like 70 comments in there with all different combos of system specs complaining about performance.

FuntyMcCraiger, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 has ruined Starfield for me

It’s really weird reading an article that so precisely nails so many of my experiences with both games.

Naz, (edited )

Sam Coe: “Y’know, captain, I’ve been thinking, I’ve been talking about myself for a long time, but I’ve never really asked you about yourself. It seems to me that you’re a mute of some kind, and everyone just talks AT you, rather than TO you. So I’ve got to ask you, how does a Chef like yourself end up working for a mining company on Narion?”

[Camera turns 180° degrees to face the player like in BG3]

• My name’s FuntyMcCraiger and I used to run a restaurant before we ran into hard times.

You know, mining is a lot like cooking. I like mining rocks.

• That’s none of your business. After being mute for 80 hours, I’ve decided to have good dialogue and good writing because they paid their writers a living wage.

• Shut the fuck up, Sam Coe.

• Can you smell what the FuntyMcCraiger is cooking?

• Show Item [Opens Inventory]

• Flip Sam The Bird.

Poggervania,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

choose any option

“Woah captain, that’s crazy. Anyways, I found another settlement - I’ll mark it here on your map.”

Naz,

A settlement needs our help, Captain.

Aux, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

I don’t know what your problem is, guys. When Skyrim was released, NVIDIA had GT 5xx series. Skyrim barely run at 40 FPS on Ultra on 1080p on a GT 560. Today, according to Gamers Nexus, Starfield runs at 60 FPS average on GTX 4060.

So, Starfield is better optimised than Skyrim was. Go buy a new GPU.

reddig33, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

If there’s an Xbox One version, then there’s really no excuse for it not to load on a PC with similar or better cpu/memory/graphics specs.

lustyargonian,

There isn’t.

reddig33,

Looks like you’re right. You have to scroll to the bottom of the Xbox page to see Xbox X and S as system requirement.

www.xbox.com/en-US/games/starfield

lustyargonian,

I think it was known since 2 years now, so maybe they didn’t bother publicizing it on the page. In fact, MSFT said they won’t be putting any games on Xbox One anymore.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

Did you mean Series S?

NuPNuA,

There isn’t, MS stopped supporting the One last year.

dan1101, (edited ) do gaming w Bethesda says most of Starfield's 1000+ planets are dull on purpose because 'when the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there' but 'they certainly weren't bored'

I’m an Elite Dangerous veteran and have no problem with that. I think it’s more realistic.

I’m about 18 hours in and the illusion of variety hasn’t worn off yet. Plenty of things to find, with some travel time though. Unlock/upgrade your backpack boosters and it’s almost like Tribes though, as you go flying across the landscape in short bursts to keep moving forward in the air.

ipha,

Shazbot!

thanks_shakey_snake,

“It’s almost like Tribes” are the four magic words to get me interested in any game.

Rodeo,

New match starts and half the team instantly spams

“I’ve got the flag!”
“I’ve got the flag!”
“I’ve got the flag!”
“I’ve got the flag!”

ipha,

“I am the greatest!”

“No.”

“I am the greatest!”

WhatWouldKarlDo,

Yeah, I’m right here with you. I’ve explored hundreds of systems in Elite. I get excited when I find an interesting planet. It would be really weird and immersion breaking for me if every planet was interesting.

hypelightfly,

Oddly enough, it's misleading. Planets are covered with procedural generated POIs what he meant is that the environment of most planets is barren. I wish there were actually unexplored planets that weren't covered in POIs too.

lorty,
@lorty@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Starfield at least lets me have some fun on foot. Elite built their ground component in a very punishing way that made it very annoying to deal with.

TwystedKynd, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

I’ve got a mid-grade PC and haven’t had any issues except the potato people with weird speaking animations and that ugly green filter over everything. Used a mod to take care of the second thing. While I am enjoying the game quite a bit, I’ve long wished that Bethesda could up their art style and animations. Thank fuck they got more than 5 voice actors now.

Darkard, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 has ruined Starfield for me

Bg3 I think really has shown us what is achievable in today’s games. The branching and intricate story around the Prisim you retrieve at the start of BG3 (without going into spoilers) and the repeated revelations about it and how to can change the direction of the story. Even the companion stories that feed seamlessly into the main plot.

My playtime in starfield is limited at the moment but I’ve been picking along a quest line for a company doing some corporate espionage stuff. But every mission has felt so lackluster. The first mission to “infiltrate” a rival company office and plant a virus. I expected to be putting my stealth skill to the test and breaking into thier server room, dodging the cameras and guards. But what I actually did is walk unimpeded into thier 2 room office space past the reciption desk and though the security checkpoint, squat next to a computer in a cubicle, do the hacking mini game (which is the same as the lockpick one! A downgrade from fallout) click a button and then walk out. I didn’t even have to convince anyone I should be there or even hide my presence.

The following missions were equally uneventful. Run to a “secure” place unopposed, squat, click the gizmo, run back. In one I had to wear a suit, which the vendor in the same building would sell me, and the game even told me that.

Such a stark change from even the simple quest path to out kargha in the druid grove as a wrong 'un in BG3

Roundcat, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 has ruined Starfield for me
@Roundcat@kbin.social avatar

Bethesda ruined Starfield for me.

FluorideMind, do gaming w Bethesda says most of Starfield's 1000+ planets are dull on purpose because 'when the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there' but 'they certainly weren't bored'

Bro I’ve spent at least ten hours just building cool space ships.

Erk,

The ship builder is just tons of fun. I wish the controls were a little bit more obvious but once you get the hang of it, I think it’s my favourite in genre. I love building something neat and then going to check out the interior walkthrough, particularly. I think I need a save where I just cheat in millions of credits so i can experiment for a while

totallymojo,
@totallymojo@ttrpg.network avatar

What are you gonna do with it when you are done?
Photo mode in space?

Jakeroxs,

There is space combat

SpacetimeMachine,

It’s pretty garbage though :/

OldPain,

1v1 me in space punk

Jakeroxs,

Is it? I find it pretty fun, sure games like everspace did it better, but that is literally a space dogfighting game lol.

NMS space combat is noticably worse in comparison, and some of the upgrade paths and the ability to adjust your reactor usage (very reminiscent of FTL) make it interesting enough for me.

cyanarchy,

Your ship is kinda like a player home you bring around with you. Having one that uniquely suits your needs and preferences is cool, and also I want a damn weapon workbench.

hairinmybellybutt, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

I’m a game developer and I’m ashamed by this.

When chip production will halt because of the climate, you will see programmers optimizing their code again.

Jeez I hope this economy crashes.

technohacker, do games w Rust adds attack helicopters, homing missiles to blow up attack helicopters, parachutes to escape exploding attack helicopters

std::attack_helicopter::AttackHelicopter::new() cool!

NightOwl, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

Wish they had asked him why the console version isn’t optimized either running at only 30.

marx2k, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

Damn, glad I didn’t buy it on day 1. Got baldurs gate instead and am enjoying that

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