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DiddyFingers, do gaming w How dare you stand where they stood?
@DiddyFingers@lemdro.id avatar

This has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve seen gamers complain about lately. Many studios have marketed like this - only Naughty Dog gets this reaction because it’s cool to hate them now I guess.

finitebanjo,

Turtle Rock, Blizzard, and Rockstar also in this camp.

Gamers are sick of being offered bare minimum product riding on the tailcoat of previous successes. We want new and risky titles that were works of passion.

DiddyFingers,
@DiddyFingers@lemdro.id avatar

This meme we’re commenting on is clearly a reaction to Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet which is an original IP. At the very least my comment specifically mentions Naughty Dog.

I want original content too and find your comment agreeable but it’s not what this meme is communicating. The creator of this meme is simply coming off as whiny and saying a studio can’t take pride in its history. The artists deserve much credit and I praise the real humans that make our favorite games possible but to say a studio shouldn’t use their track record as a selling point is silly. Nobody would react this way to a FromSoft trailer saying “from the makers of Dark Souls and Bloodborne”.

finitebanjo,

You and I must be seeing completely different memes, I’ve never heard of that space luigi shit.

josefo, do gaming w How dare you stand where they stood?

Follow the companies those developers are now instead their former companies.

thatKamGuy, do gaming w How dare you stand where they stood?

This is why I’m quite pessimistic about GTA6; it’s been 11 years since GTA5 was first released on the PS3 and Xbox360! A lot of people forget that an entire console generation passed without a new entry into the franchise.

The median turnover at games companies is significantly lower than 11 years, and even Dan Howser and Lazlow Jones have left Rockstar in the interim.

The likelihood that it will live up to player expectations, given how heavily Take2 have milked the hell out of Online via Shark Cards, is woefully low.

But I guess that’s the good part of being a pessimist; you’re either proven correct - or pleasantly surprised!

Gradually_Adjusting, do gaming w How dare you stand where they stood?
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Well they’re a corporation. They can’t just say “from Feargus Urquhart”, they’d have legal on their ass

DaMonsterKnees,
@DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world avatar

And the fine tribals of Arroyo!

TommySoda, do gaming w How dare you stand where they stood?

And remember this… A lot of those developers made those games when they were the indie devs.

camr_on, do games w Playing dressup with my XCOM 2 soldiers.
@camr_on@lemmy.world avatar

I have spent so, so many hours customizing soldiers and installing mods for this game. Love to see it

Kolanaki,
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spend 8 hours customizing soldier

Soldier immediately dies in one hit on the next mission due to RNG hating your absolute guts

“Haha nope.”

Reloads save

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Playing dressup with my XCOM 2 soldiers.

You save scum because you get too attached to your soldiers, don’t you?

It’s okay. We all do it.

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Not as much as you’d think. I keep my soldiers faceless and unattached until they are fairly leveled up. By the the time they get customized, they tend not to get meatgrindered. Usually.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9017b895-f3a0-4ec3-909b-eb83e6887fc0.jpeg

Rumbelows,

Yeah, none of mine get any customisation at all until they make Sargent.

It’s like a trip across Antarctica - don’t give the dogs names!

smeg,

I create them in advance so they appear in game ready-named after my friends so it really hurts when they die

dumbass, do gaming w Domino's has some thoughts
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

What the fuck is an Astro bot?

priapus,

The game that deserved GOTY

hitmyspot, do gaming w Domino's has some thoughts

Nope, trying to create controversy and discussion for free advertising. Like this post. They don’t have opinions, they have social media teams.

racketlauncher831,

Wasn’t TGA doing the same thing? Obviously everyone know that the game of the year is… is not Astro Bot.

toynbee,

My five year old would strongly disagree with you.

Though they would call it “Buzzy Butt.”

WoodScientist, do gaming w Domino's has some thoughts

Holy shit, here comes an s!

kippinitreal, do gaming w Domino's has some thoughts
ceenote, do gaming w Domino's has some thoughts

No matter how you pander, the Chinese market doesn’t want your pizzas either, Domino’s.

ImplyingImplications,

What about Japan?

slazer2au, do games w Day 148 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

Quick tip, to allow better flow of gasses leave a free segment on either side of the ladders.
To extend on this, dog a CO2 pit at the bottom of the base.

Learnt those from Francis John ONI playthrough. You should give his videos a go.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

Definitely saving this for later. I’ve been trying to use an over complicated series of vents and gas pumps to pump CO2 into a “CO2” room from all over the base that I lock with an airlock and shove a CO2 generator in. It didn’t occur to me to just toss it in a pit lmao

shyguyblue,

I always leave at least one free space so i can install a fire pole later. I’m going to do this on my next play through, and use the other side for pneumatic tubes!

secret300, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

If it’s on epic it just isn’t on PC in my eyes. Not a real game

proton_lynx,

If it’s not a real game, should we call it an unreal game? I will see myself out…

Chozo,
@Chozo@fedia.io avatar

Epic joke.

Dicska,

It’s always available on the high seas.

pressanykeynow,

Yeah, but frankly the high seas usually provide less than Steam does even with money in the equation. And that’s probably the only case when high seas is worse, with all the other services in my experience the high seas provide better service(spotify was close). So the point is if a game doesn’t release on Steam it’s release date just moves to the moment it releases on Steam. Not the best scenario, but Steam really has little competition and Epic surely isn’t trying to be one.

Dicska,

I have no problem with Steam. I was mainly talking about games that only (don’t) come out on Epic Store, but maybe I wasn’t clear enough.

meliaesc,

I haven’t kept up, what does it do worse than steam?

Emerica,

Pretty much everything really. It’s basically a store and that’s it, no cool features that Steam has. They may have achievements now but not positive. Think it took two years just for them to add a shopping cart. They dump money on developers to release exclusively on Epic instead of spending it making a good experience for customers. No reviews, no forums, no workshop etc.

I grab the free games they offer every couple weeks and use Heroic to play them, not touching their launcher.

shneancy,

not to mention steam’s:

screenshot manager

community card trading

friends & chat

easy to join small muliplayer (friends can just send you a button that launches the game and joins them instantly)

highly customisable profiles

tools & soundtracks

achievemnts

and so much more that can be simply small little fun

RaoulDook,

SteamVR is great also, provides a native VR system that Epic doesn’t have

RmDebArc_5,
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

Don’t forget: Ability to see your library on the website

secret300,

This is huge for me

IronKrill,
@IronKrill@lemmy.ca avatar

They do have achievements, yeah. Not much else though.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Copying my reply to someone else:

Epic is anti-customer: medium.com/…/why-i-turned-down-exclusivity-deal-f…

Tldr: Kickstarter Game with a lot of interest while in development announces a release date on Steam. After the date announcement they get contacted by Epic saying “we’d love to host your game” for an exclusivity deal.
Dev responds that they would be happy to have their game on Epic but promises were made during crowd funding that it would be available on Steam.
Epic replies that they aren’t interested if it’s not exclusive.

This tells me that

  1. Epic is full of shit. "We’d love to have your game, but only if it’s exclusive.
  2. Epic doesn’t care about being a better service for its customers. Having the game available on Epic as well is strictly better for Epic’s customers and they easily could have done that. They chose not to.
  3. Epic is not interested in actually having to compete with other companies. This would require them to provide a better service in some fashion. They are only interested if they can force people “if you want to purchase this game you have to buy it through us” which is anti-consumer.
pressanykeynow,

You can add that their client was actually a malware at some time.

secret300,

Everything but I will focus on the main point of the apps. Selling and managing games.

Steam store page has tags for what genre the game is and user reviews as well as information about system requirements. Plus links to click on to go to the developers and publishers pages to see what else they’ve made. You get plenty of information while it’s still easy on the eyes and digestible.

Managing your games with steam is a breeze. They’re listed down the side and the search is there and quick. Click on a game and get more information about it and see a large install or play button. Scroll down to see info about the latest update or activity from friends playing. Right click to get more information like where it’s installed locally.

Epic, at least when I last used it. Didn’t have user reviews, the page had large widgets for all the information making everything feel clutter while giving you less info about the game. Didn’t have tags and sure it did label the publisher but not the developers and you couldn’t click to see their other works.

Epic’s library management once again large widgets while giving less information. Feels cluttered. Install button is small. At the time I used epic there was not easy way to open install location. You had to go in file explorer yourself and find it.

While I’m on the topic of stores to why do console store pages suck as well compared to steam?! The console is literally sold at a loss and make money by selling you games but their store pages are shit compared to steam.

Mango,

Yeah, the point of a PC is to be independent of any company.

Endymion_Mallorn, do games w Funko gets community noted
@Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org avatar

So, how much is Funko or their "partner" going to willingly pay Itch for their lost income? Or is there going to have to be a lawsuit?

catloaf,

I don’t know itch’s daily profit, but I doubt a half day’s will be enough to warrant a suit.

Endymion_Mallorn,
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My worry is that without a lawsuit or other action, we'll keep seeing LLM slop companies taking down smaller websites for bogus reasons. This needs to be codified somehow that there were damages done to Itch's earnings (and more importantly the earnings of the independent creators on the platform who should start a class-action suit), and that what Funko's contracted LLM company did was wrong.

There's financial damages, loss of profit, emotional distress, reputation loss, and more. We need to take action against these companies for their wrongdoing. So either they need to willingly pay up and have that payment be known and public, or they need to be made to pay by the courts.

DeathsEmbrace,

Don’t worry false positives and AI go together like oil and fire.

Endymion_Mallorn,
@Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Yes, which is why we should make every one of those false positives cost an arm and a leg to the perpetrators.

Adalast,

Here here.

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

The expression is actually “hear, hear!” A shortening of “hear him, hear him”, an instruction saying “listen to what this guy’s saying. It’s good shit.”

Adalast,

I see you are another of my pedant tribe. Thank you for the correction and context. You are a scholar and a gentleman.

Adalast,

Itch is by no means a small time player. Doing some very fast statistics off of the game price breakdowns available and the counts of games available vs. the number they rate as best sellers, if 20% of their best sellers make a sale each day and 7.5% of their non-best sellers make a sale each day, assuming an average price for the three pricing filters of (under $5, $2.5), ($5 to $15, $10), (over $15, $20), then Itch sells approximately $20k/day. Half a day is $10k. If those averages are actually much higher in their respective areas, as in just below the maximum then the daily total jumps to over $35k/day. There is wiggle room in my assumptions, but it is safe to say that Itch sees about $25k±7k/day.

As mentioned in other suits, there are nonmonetary damages as well which are harder to quantify without access to their analytics such as reputation damage, lost traffic, maintenance and repair from the forced outage at the domain level, etc. I could see a suit for $50k in actual damages and another $500k-$1M in punitive damages to send the message that this behavior is intolerable in general.

Brokkr,

A law firm capable of handling such a suit would probably bill at a rate of $2000/hr, or more.

If your numbers are right, then they could afford to pay for 20 hours of work. That’s probably not enough to even file the suit. Again, this assumes your numbers are right but even if they were 10x this it may still not make sense to file a suit.

Unfortunately, I don’t think the math works out in their favor.

Adalast,

Except that most firms that charge $2000/hour take the fee from the settlement, not up front, when doing civil litigation. Really only criminal law is paid directly by the client, at least in the US.

catloaf,

Well let’s say $30k, treble damages to $90k. So up to 45 hours of billable time before losing money. I don’t know how much time a suit takes, but I’m pretty sure it’s more than that. I don’t know how likely it is for them to award legal fees, either.

Even if they work on contingency, they’d still have to be sure they’d win and turn a profit before they’d take the case.

Adalast,

That is where punitive damages come in. Most huge settlements are substantially punitive, which are damages awarded not on merit, but with the express intent of making the settlement hurt enough that the offender, and others in similar situations, think twice about taking similar actions.

uis,

Which loosing party will have to pay. Unless you want them to sue in baboon’s jungle court of America.

ZombiFrancis,

Most humans are priced out of their dignity at even risking a $2000/hr expense.

acockworkorange,

That’s where orgs like the EFF come in. Though in this case I think itch can do it.

vala,

It’s likely more than you think

Sixtyforce,
@Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works avatar

Itch doesn’t appear interested in suing unfortunately. I want them to, not because I’m bloodthirsty, but to set precedent that this wreckless use of AI content moderation isn’t OK. I can imagine Disney and Nintendo following this.

chiliedogg,

I mean… a little bloodthirst is okay.

dragonfucker,

This isn’t wreckless. In fact, it’s fairly wrecking.

Endymion_Mallorn,
@Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Commenting so that I remember to look it up, is reckfull a word? Or maybe reckful, knowing how English is weird about double 'l"s?

Szyler,

Chatgpt answer:

Yes, “reckful” is a real word, although it is rarely used in modern English. It means being thoughtful, careful, or prudent, essentially the opposite of “reckless.” It comes from the same root as “reck,” which means to care or pay attention to.

Examples of Usage:

In older texts, “reckful” might describe someone who is cautious or considerate of consequences: “He was reckful in his approach, weighing every decision carefully.”

Why It’s Uncommon:

“Reckless” became the dominant term in English, and “reckful” fell out of common usage. Today, terms like “careful,” “prudent,” or “mindful” are more likely to be used in its place.

So while “reckful” is technically correct and would make sense in context, it might sound archaic or poetic to most modern English speakers.

echodot,

They really should because the law has already decided that AI isn’t an independent entity, and is essentially just a computer program.

So whoever initiated the AI is ultimately responsible for its behavior, they can’t claim the AI malfunctioned because they chose not to bother having any human oversight, they knew that this was always a possibility and still they took responsibility for it.

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