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frezik, do gaming w I've never seen a company squander as much goodwill as Blizzard.

Just wait until GabeN retires and the inheritors of Valve start to enshittify it. Unless GabeN had a good succession plan in place, or GoG can swoop in and become the new standard, things might get rough. I might stick to retro games from then on.

UndercoverUlrikHD,
@UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev avatar

Luckily BG3 is on GOG. I don’t think I’ve bought a new game on steam for years, granted I don’t play a lot of games nowadays.

Dave, (edited )
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

I bought BG3 on GOG simply because it was on GOG, otherwise I would have waited a few years. I want to support AAA games being release on GOG at release because it doesn’t happen much. GOG isn’t gonna take over Steam, because largely the industry isn’t going to support DRM free AAA games.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

I’m seriously concerned about this, yet I keep using steam because of the convenience.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Steam is currently a good company so I am happy to support it. If it enshittifies then I will stop using it and sail the high seas if need be.

Warl0k3,

Steam is privately held, so there’s plenty of reason to be hopeful. The recent rapid enshittification of what feels like every company is mostly due to US laws that require publicly traded companies to squeeze every last dollar out or face severe penalties. Privately held companies are not subject to those laws, and so they can stay actually decent and care about their customers without threat of legal repercussions. An example is Lego Group - there’s some valid criticism, but legos have stayed a top quality product for nearing a hundred years - and show no signs of suddenly degrading in quality. So, I wouldn’t worry unduly about this until Valve announces an IPO. Then you should start worrying.

Crashumbc,

Just to be clear, there’s no actual law requiring that. It’s just an excuse they use to be greedy.

Warl0k3,

It’s more complicated than just one law that says “you must be a bastard” I admit, but fiduciary responsibility is a core requirement of any publicly traded company and very much is legally enforceable (this parenthetical aside stands in for about three pages of niche caveats and overly wordy exceptions that I’m just going to shamelessly handwave away). At best a CEO might be found to be civilly liable, but peasants non-C-suite employees are criminally charged for neglecting their fiduciary duty every day in the US.

Crashumbc,

Absolutely, but fiduciary responsibility, has never and was never intended to mean absolutely maximizing profits and especially at the long term expense.

That was a twisted idea that was put forward in the late 70s early 80s as a means to justify destroying companies for short term gain.

Warl0k3,

Oh, then yes I agree completely!

So anyways you coming to Steve’s “eat the rich” party? I hear he’s got a new barbecue.

Maggoty,

If you breach fiduciary duty the best thing you can hope for is to be fired. Executives have been criminally charged for it as well though. And while it has to be an intentional act of malfeasance, that gets pretty blurry when the shareholders hire thousand dollar an hour lawyers to come after you.

So while yes, the root cause is greed, the system itself is setup to feed that.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

Ugh, the thought of some generic investment company swooping in and running Valve hurts my heart.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

My hope is that Gabe actually gets direct brain connection technology off the ground and he uploads his consciousness into an everlasting machine so he never has to retire.

pseudopsyche,

Perhaps one encased in a giant stone bust of himself. With lasers.

Flipper,

Why should they enshitify a service that is printing money with minimal effort? Right guys 🥲.

vrighter,

because they don’t understand why it’s printing money

thesporkeffect,

Not only do they not understand, they actively don’t care: they have a product-agnostic business process that can convert any type of stable business into a pile of extracted equity and spare parts. They are literally bleeding their own society to death

At least actual vampires would probably have the good sense not to destroy the breeding stock that keeps them alive.

fatalicus,

Because they could make it print even more money, and make the line go more up for a very short time!

That looks good on the CV you know.

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Because most of these MBA fucks don’t understand the concept of piracy being a service problem. They have run perfectly fine systems into the ground because they insist on making it infinitely harder to use legit services than to just rip shit off.

Flipper,

Like the 28. Streaming service, so that I can’t find what I want anymore.

pressanykeynow,

Yeah, the thing about Steam is that buying your game at Steam feels better than downloading it for free somehow.

kiljoy,

Because it could be printing even MOAR money. Line must go up at all cost.

Rekorse,

Supposedly the answer is inflation. The same profit next year is worth less, so it needs to go up to be the same.

Of course thats not where most companies stop, is it.

kiljoy,

The thing that pisses me off if that my comp only goes up by 3% but that is failure to a corp.

Rekorse,

Thats interesting, I hadn’t connected those before. I think it would be hard to argue in favor of separate expectations for inflation of wages and the companies profits.

Like I understand having a stellar year, but the goal is still set the same, and its fine to return tk that baseline next year. Or maybe even doing well one year means we can lower the goal next year, or bank the difference for bad weather years.

Would be interesting if companies had an interest in the long term like that.

Jumi,

I don’t think he’s really that involved into Steam or Valve proceedings anymore

flashgnash,

Need someone to track videogame piracy rates and if steam gets enshittified make a graph and mark each of their bad decisions against it

gwen,

it’s a very closely held private company, gaben absolutely has someone to take his place with ideals similar to his.

Maggoty,

You hope. It wouldn’t be the first time.

gwen,

example? /genq

Maggoty,

Oh geez there’s so many people tend to write articles about the general phenomenon rather than specific examples.

One of the biggest recent examples though has got to be Boeing. While they’re a publicly traded company, they resisted the call of greed above all until they merged with McDonnell Douglas and the MD executives won the battle for control of the merged company. Things went on a decades long slide after that which resulted in hundreds of deaths and a chain of high profile mechanical failures we’re still not sure is over.

For privately held corporations it’s all about that new leadership. In fact around 70 percent of family run ones fail in the second generation. But any generation can run the business into the ground or change it up. Bancroft and Barings are great examples of that. Barings was 232 years old when it went bankrupt under mismanagement.

warm, do games w How did Call of Duty get to this point?

People buy it. People then buy the skins. I play the free to play one sometimes and nearly every single person I kill has a $30+ skin and weapons. It's saddening.

One of the funniest things with cod too now, is that people always used to say it was the same game every year, but it is actually the same game every year now, with progress and weapons carrying over.

Gone are the days of a one time purchase and a solid game. (Well in the AAA space anyway)

tacosanonymous, do games w How did Call of Duty get to this point?
@tacosanonymous@lemm.ee avatar

I haven’t looked into the beta itself. This particular ad seems to say you can use the exclusive items from the pack in the beta.

Edit: I just googled it. There is an early access beta but there is also an open beta.

But really the answer to “why is it like this?” Is “because money.”

Jackthelad, do games w How did Call of Duty get to this point?

To be fair, you don’t HAVE to buy it to access the beta as it’s open to everyone next weekend.

But yes, betas are now “glorified demos” and have been for a fair few years.

Blxter, do games w How did Call of Duty get to this point?
!deleted4407 avatar

Honestly the skins look better than the shit I saw in the last one like Niki Minaj and shit. I still wouldn’t buy any of them though.

Edit: as for paying for any kind of beta is dumb

LordBelphegor, do games w Day 48 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

Now do Copperbell Mines hard mode 😏

Dremor,
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

Funny anecdote, I managed to survive to a Flambeau explosion on the first boss once… As a heal. I literally dodged the explosion. 😂

TacticsConsort, do gaming w I've never seen a company squander as much goodwill as Blizzard.
@TacticsConsort@yiffit.net avatar

Even if Blizzard games haven’t had a high note since 2016, I would like to remind everyone that the company still had absurd amounts of goodwill and customer loyalty for a large and corporate studio at the time, with fans owning and actively collecting literal decades of merchendise.

Things only really truly collapsed for Blizzard and saw their goodwill vanish when they openly supported and endorsed the chinese oppression of Hong Kong.

Specifically, the winner of a Hearthstone tournament was interviewed after his win and gave the pro-Hong Kong slogan “free Hong Kong, the revolution of our times”, which there was absolutely no rule or stipulation against. China demanded that the company not endorse that (because authoritarianism), but Blizzard ACTIVELY WENT THE EXTRA MILE to strip the player of his prize money and ban him from all future events alongside other punishments, specifically in the name of appeasing the chinese government.

It wouldn’t be fair to expect a game company to singlehandedly stand up to an authoritarian regime that loves to make people disappear. But it is absolutely fair to recognize that Blizzard’s actions very clearly demonstrated that they weren’t just doing this because they were threatened into it- they were more than happy to actively endorse the chinese government’s oppression of Hong Kong. And THAT is what we should always remember about Blizzard’s morals and principles, or lack thereof.

CountVon,
@CountVon@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s the event that gave me the push I needed to request deletion of my account with them. I won’t give them another dollar for as long as I live.

gothic_lemons,

Same! Still kinda miss hearthstone but in the end it was just a game.

morbidcactus,

Same, was just starting wow classic with my partner as she’d never played wow before, that made us both cancel immediately and never give them another cent.

dingleberrylover,

There are a couple of VERY GOOD classic pservers out there which are not only better maintained than the Blizz servers, these have also much less bots and way healthier populations and economies.

Tok0,

Do you have any resources to share so that I could join one?

dingleberrylover,

I can absolutely recommend Turtle WoW. It is such a good classic+ experience: imagine if there never were any of the wow addons but instead the base game got expanded in a meaningful and in terms of Warcraft 3 lore-friendly way. There are new and very well-done zones which were empty before. There are new items and professions without nullifying the existing ones, there are two new races and new race/class combos (to keep close to WC3 lore), there are new dungeons and raids, tons of new quests and a lot of quality of life improvements. You have many options to play how you want: restrict yourself on how much exp you get and play slow & steady, opt in for a built-in hardcore mode, activate warmode to be flagged for pvp or a combination of those. Also, pretty much all classes got rebalanced (some more than others, though) to make more builds viable without altering the game to much (more balance updates are in the roadmap). The dev team is very active and dedicated.

Duamerthrax,

Reminder that that event happened IN TAIWAN.

pressanykeynow,

That makes it even more hilarious.

Blackmist,

I’d forgotten all about that.

All the sex pests felt like a “good” reason to quit WoW but I’d say my real reason was it had become a piece of shit that didn’t value my time, and I’d honestly been looking for a reason to quit for a long time.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

The removed a bunch of portals from WoW in order to “make the world feel big” (make you waste more time traveling instead of doing fun things).

boonhet,

I might just be too casual, but I remember that half the fun of WoW was traveling. Of course, I never got into raids or pvp anyway, I leveled up and did dungeons lol

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Travel (especially in older zones where you would be using portals) consists of:
Mount flying mount, point in the right direction, hit auto-run, wait.

Not really the most exciting game play experience when you’ve already flown over the area a dozen times before. Taxis are also just as bad. Other MMOs (Guldwars 2, FF14) have no problem with players teleporting directly to somewhere close to their destination. They already traveled their once, no need to force them to do it again.

boonhet,

Oh much of my playtime was in Azeroth during TBC, I didn’t really have flying mounts lol

ultranaut,

That’s exactly where they lost me forever. Truly a despicable bunch of assholes.

OrkneyKomodo, do games w Day 47 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots
@OrkneyKomodo@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Many thanks. This is one of the post series I’m enjoying following the most on Lemmy right now.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you. I enjoy sharing the stuff I’m doing with other people, so it makes me happy to hear people are enjoying it

Obi,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

Yes it’s a ray of sunshine in a gloomy feed.

otter, do games w Day 47 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

SoT is the only game I find a particular satisfaction with running a script once asshats get punchy. I’m fine just fishing or plinkin’ around with the hang, but when dealing with squeakers, they all go down to Davey Jones asap until they rage quit. Fuckem.

wizardbeard,

Cheating in a multiplayer game is a shitty move, regardless of motivation.

They released safer seas (pvp-less servers) if you don’t want to be hassled.

If child voices bug you (squeakers), go to the options, mute voice chat from non-crewmates. Turn on auto captions for voice chat if you’re worried about missing something or them sneaking up on you because you can’t hear them.

otter,

Meh.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I guess I kind of enjoy the challenge when other players get aggressive. I’ll never instigate combat, but if someone else does I have a lot of fun fighting back. It’s kind of thrilling and fun for me.

otter,

I don’t disagree with that basic sentiment, but it’s the griefers and whiners that get pissy when they FAFO. Downvote all you want, fellas; the fact remains: if you’re being a dick, no one cares if you get your ass handed to you. “Cheating” or not.

JusticeForPorygon, do games w Daily Screenshot Drop - Sabacc! (Star Wars: Outlaws)
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

How is the rest of the game? I’ve heard mixed feelings.

Edit: speaking of mixed feelings, literally like three posts after this one was a thread complaining about the game. It do be like that sometimes.

M137,
@M137@lemmy.world avatar

I’m absolutely loving it, it’s unbelievably gorgeous and the gameplay is fun.

My only real complaint is that I’m the story is too short, I was so surprised when the “this is the end mission, you’ll be locked out of the rest of the game until this is finished” warning popped up, I thought I was only halfway there. So I’ve put that on hold and I’m now fully exploring everything else. I really hope they make several big expansion for it, with new planets etc.

YoFrodo, do games w Daily Screenshot Drop - Sabacc! (Star Wars: Outlaws)

Sabacc is so fun!

GuStJaR,

I agree!

Plagiatus, do games w Day 47 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

I’m missing the part where you got your loot back.

Also, if you’re a 2 man galleon, that’s on you lol.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

Oh. No. My bad. I was still running off the exhilaration of the escape. We never lost the loot. My partner hid with it on the island in a pile of barrels using a Emote that puts him in a barrel (while they were sinking our ship), then I swung by and picked him up with the loot and we managed to sell it while they were chasing our asses by using me as the distraction.

Plagiatus,

Ohh right, you never put the loot on your ship. That makes sense

linkinkampf19, do games w Day 46 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots
@linkinkampf19@lemmy.world avatar

I’d be curious to see if you can install the patch that reintroduces the E3 graphics and how that’s handled on the Deck. Not sure on the how-to with SteamOS.

www.nexusmods.com/watchdogs/mods/209

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t realize there was an E3 graphics patch. I’ll have to try that out sometime

TheDarksteel94, do gaming w Black Ops 6 Beta Review

The gameplay does looks pretty good. Too bad it’ll be ruined by a shitty publisher.

Maggoty, (edited ) do gaming w I've never seen a company squander as much goodwill as Blizzard.

Hulu was really good a decade ago. Then they put ads in and created a higher tier. Nobody was surprised when it happened again some years later.

In Ukraine starlink was being hailed as a hero before Elon decided to turn off Internet access in areas he deemed Ukraine to be “too aggressive”.

Goodwill doesn’t deserve it’s reputation. It uses minimum wage exemptions for disabled people to pay it’s staff below minimum wage.

Edit to add - Destiny 2 was the other one I was thinking of and couldn’t quite place. Great PvE shooter with great story, and they killed it to force people to buy DLC.

funkless_eck,

D2’s problem is different. To succeed critically they needed to produce The Taken King or The Witch Queen every content cycle, but there’s no way to do that except release only once a year — but they wanted to release every 3 months, so they made shitty DLCs that everyone mildly disliked and hyped them up so people actively disliked them on release.

Then the shitty mini DLCs began cannibalizing the dev, time and monetary budget from the main DLCs and it fell into a downward spiral.

Maggoty,

Yeah that wasn’t great but I think it was the part where they literally deleted a bunch of the story so you either bought the DLC or wandered the maps aimlessly killing stuff that really broke any good will left.

HawlSera,

Or worse… you bought the DLC and had no idea what was going on because you’re a newer player and they deleted the story that this DLC is a follow up.too…

NotMyOldRedditName,

It’s amazing how people still get things wrong ages after it’s been corrected by the author and spread misinformation and the hate involved with it.

Elon didn’t turn starlink off. It was always off. It was never ON to be turned OFF.

Further, allowing ukraine to use starlink as a weapon in an offensive attack was against the terms of service and would put spacex in a very difficult position with regulations. That’s why the DoD took it over, and it’s okay now.

Maggoty,

If it was always off then why did they lose Internet? And why was Ukraine’s counter offensive bad but Russia’s offensive okay?

NotMyOldRedditName, (edited )

They lost internet because they went out of range of where it was on. They assumed it was on everywhere.

They strapped them onto boats where the internet was on, and drove them to where the internet was off. Then they begged SpaceX to turn them on, and they refused.

Not turning it on to allow the attack was in line with the terms of service and weapons export rules. SpaceX doesn’t want their consuner service to be considered a weapon.

Russia was getting satellites from 3rd parties and using them in ukraine because they work in ukraine.

Edit: and just to clarify, now that the DoD is managing this for ukraine through a contract with SpaceX, the DoD is allowing its use as a weapon AFAIK.

Maggoty,

A. That’s not how satellites work

B. The US considers Crimea to be Ukrainian territory.

C. These uplinks were already purchased by the DoD, who was very vocal about Elon fucking with the signal.

I know it sucks that your idol turned out to be the vain villain instead of Tony Stark but we were all here. We all remember.

NotMyOldRedditName, (edited )

Lol, service absolutely can be turned on and off based on regions. SpaceX doesn’t turn it on in a region until the local government had an agreement with them. Just because the US gov sees Crimea as Ukraine does not mean SpaceX is obliged to turn it on there.

And no, there was no DoD contract in place at the time. SpaceX was providing services for free out of their own goodwill.

The DoD had a formal contact in place in June 2023, the incident falsely commented on by OP was in 2022.

Edit below

…wikipedia.org/…/Starlink_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_…

You can go read it all in the wiki yourself but the relevant part

In June 2023, the Department of Defense officialized a contract with Shotwell’s SpaceX to buy Starlink satellite services for Ukraine.[10] The deal includes the Pentagon buying 400-500 Starlink terminals for Ukraine, giving the Pentagon control of where Starlink works inside the country without fear of interruption.[79] The terms of services of the final contract were undisclosed for security issues.[10] Following the contract, The Pentagon stated Starlink was a “vital layer in Ukraine’s overall communications network” amidst “a range of global partners to ensure Ukraine has the capabilities they need.”[10]

Edit: oh, you’re OP. LOL

Maggoty,

I’m not going to read the wiki on an active war with a cult of personality involved. It’s not going to be unbiased.

News reports from the period make the situation very clear. As well as whistle blowers straight up telling us Elon personally shut down their Internet.

Get fucked.

NotMyOldRedditName,

Okay dude, continue to have your raging hard on for hating Elon

reuters.com/…/pentagon-buys-starlink-ukraine-stat…

I’ll wait for a verified source that shows spacex had a formal contract to supply starlink services to Ukraine with the DoD prior to this. I imagine I’ll die before you can do that since you can’t.

Edit: specifically before the event in question.

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