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ShaggySnacks, do gaming w I've never seen a company squander as much goodwill as Blizzard.
CheeseNoodle, do gaming w I've never seen a company squander as much goodwill as Blizzard.

CDPR? admittedly they’re really good at gaining it back again, kinda homer simpsons vibes where they repeatedly fuck up but then make an honest attempt to make things right only to repeat the cycle all over again.

seejur,

CDPR mistakes can be corrected, but blizzard games are designed from the ground up, with purpose, to be fuckup games in order to milk as much money as possible from it players. There is no correcting the boat for blizzard because for the managers of blizzard the boat IS correct

Raab,

Hopefully their transition to unreal engine 5 gets away with a lot of their launch issues I genuinely love all of their games but their release dates being “game launch +1-2 years” hurts me.

batmaniam,

CDPR is still on my “probably pass” list after cyber punk. I read the launch news, stayed faraway. I picked it up this year, after all the patches and work and… yeah it’s still fundamentally broken.

Not in terms of balance or bugs, but it didn’t have the magic. To start, I really don’t like fantasy games. They’re just not my thing. Witcher 3 had bad combat mechanics, could be terribly grindy and YET is one of my top five games. The story telling, from the plot itself the tiny immersive details in the world, hooked you. They nailed the big things, but it was the little things like sometimes you’d free someone, and realize they murdered a bunch of dudes who were minding their own business, and none of this was mentioned in or affected any other plot line, it was just a random detail in the universe.

Cyberpunk has a semblance of the big stuff, but exactly none of the soul. I cared about some of the main characters (emphasis on “some”) but exactly none about the world. It never felt like more than a backdrop.

A loss and misstep is ok, particularly given a growing studio, the problem with CDPR is they think they fixed cyberpunk. With that mentality I’m giving their next game a huge berth.

And if you liked cyberpunk, enjoy. There are parts to be enjoyed. There are some neat plot threads, some nifty side quests, if you enjoy it don’t let people ruin it for you.

pressanykeynow,

They lied about Cyberpunk. They knew it was bad on release and maliciously made decisions so that people would still buy it. That’s not some minor thing, that’s a crime. “We leave greed to others”, yeah, right. And this problem was never addressed by CDPR, like it’s a normal thing to do, they think it’s okay.

Ephera,

Man, Cyberpunk was not a Homer-like fuckup. They were promising features which were nowhere near ready, while their whole game hardly ran at all. That’s a crime, at least in my country. Homer doesn’t do crimes…

dinckelman, do gaming w I've never seen a company squander as much goodwill as Blizzard.

It’s a cultural issue.

People at Larian had one objective the entire time - making a genuinely good D&D based game. If the money comes, that’s incredible. And it did come.

People at blizzard make games with the goal of making money. The era of making something fun has been long over in this studio

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

It seems that publicly traded game companies simply can’t help themselves from becoming this (e.g. Activision/Blizzard, Ubisoft, EA).

It’s very sad, but at least there are still a few private AAA companies and indies who seem to make fun games for the sake of fun games.

dinckelman,

Once you go public, you’ve practically forced yourself into aiming for infinite growth. “Just enough” revenue is not in the vocabulary of these people

henfredemars,

That’s what happens when MBAs start making too many product decisions at a tech company, and game companies are no exception.

oxideseven,

Not even just game companies. Publicly traded companies are a curse on humanity.

arefx,

I don’t buy or play their trash any more. It ain’t the 90s or 00s any more. Blizzard is ass.

Ea, ubisoft, Blizzard. The games aren’t even that good

dinckelman,

Yeah, pretty much. A lot of their games appear on a 80% sale half the time, and even then it’s still not worth it. It’s not even about the money, it’s about being disrespected by the dogshit they continue to release.

I would rather give my time to a passionate indie studio, where the people put together a genuinely unique experience

Cornelius_Wangenheim,

It’s an ownership issue.

Larian is privately owned by Swen Vincke. They can concentrate on making good games because they don’t answer to anyone but Swen.

Blizzard is publicly owned. It has to answer to greedy and short-sighted shareholders.

MarcomachtKuchen, do games w Daily Screenshot Drop - Trooper at Imperial Checkpoint (Star Wars: Outlaws)

Really cool shot, love the composition Is this from outlaws or one of the jedi parts?

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@fedia.io avatar

The description on the imgur link says Outlaws

AFallingAnvil,
@AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

Outlaws, the out of focus lady in the center with her hands in her jacket pockets is the main character

PunchingWood,

Correct. I forgot to mention it, as it’s a cross post from the Outlaws sub.

finitebanjo, do gaming w I've never seen a company squander as much goodwill as Blizzard.

Blizzard died quite a while ago. Even if the same dudes are still making decisions at the head of the studio after the Activision buyout, clearly they have dementia or some other cognitive defects.

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

I think the execs were always somewhat shit, even when they were making good games. It’s just their creative team miraculously managed to make good games despite the shitty execs.

finitebanjo,

Yeah, they used to have a Caste System in Blizzard HQ where badge color decided your importance. And get this, their tech guys, security guys, and hardware guys (not firmware) were all the lower caste lmao.

RizzRustbolt,

Firing Nethaera was a bullet in their brain.

bungle_in_the_jungle, do games w Daily Screenshot Drop - Trooper at Imperial Checkpoint (Star Wars: Outlaws)

Holy reflections, Batman!

blind3rdeye, do gaming w I've never seen a company squander as much goodwill as Blizzard.

It was easy to predict a downward slide as soon as they merged with Activision.

finitebanjo,

Rather than merged I think they were simply bought by Activision. An Acquisition is when one business entity becomes a child to another, a merger is when the two become one different entity.

Saleh,

“Mergers” end up being acquisitions in the majority of cases. One company culture will prevail, one companies middle management will take over the administrative sides and depending on the structure also the technical side.

finitebanjo,

Okay but the merger was Vivendi Games who merged with Activision. Blizzard Studios was never at any point Activision’s equal, they’re a bought and paid for property of Activision.

TankovayaDiviziya,

I didn’t even know they merged with Activision. And I didn’t even know that the latter has also gone worse than I expected. Which is a shame because I have fond memories of pre-2010s Call of Duty games.

tacosanonymous, do games w Day 46 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots
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That game lets you murder Aisha Tyler for some reason. Like, I thought it would be a “game over” type scenario but nope. Just get the cops on you.

offspec, do gaming w I've never seen a company squander as much goodwill as Blizzard.

I’m pretty sure is right there with them

Jode, do gaming w When will they learn? When will they learn, that their actions have consequences?

Does anyone play splitgate? Has anyone played the splitgate 2 alpha? Jesus, it’s this. Whoever made that game missed the boat big time. Splitgate is a simple arena shooter with portals sprinkled in to make it interesting. No loadouts or “heros” to memorize, no points and weapon upgrades to keep track of. Just fast paced point and shoot. Splitgate 2 is everything I hate in video games currently.

B312,

Honestly if they get rid of the loadout system and weapon mods the game would be a very good upgrade to the og. Doubt they would do that but who knows

zaphod, do games w Day 46 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

Good game, had a lot of fun with it. It seems a lot of people didn’t like the game because the graphics got downgraded from what they showd in the first trailers. They only real complaint I have is the handling of cars is weird.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

It’s one of the few games where I switch between mouse and controller when on foot vs in a car. They’re damn near undrivable with wasd.

zaphod,

Oh, I was talking about driving with a controller.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Oh, it’s even worse on wasd. It’s like only being able to steer by wild swerving.

Etterra, do gaming w I've never seen a company squander as much goodwill as Blizzard.

Yeah but they’ll never learn because tons off people keep shoveling money at them.

finitebanjo, (edited )

I think Activision might be on the way out, they’ve had playercounts decline pretty much every quarter and even though their SEC filings show an increase in revenue thats only because Blizzard and other new properties get filed alongside the rest of Activision, now.

banazir, do games w Day 46 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots
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I not too long ago played this game and, while flawed, found it to be a very decent game with a lot of potential. My biggest gripe personally is that it devolves from an engaging and clever stealth game to a mass murder simulator, and the main character isn’t terribly likable by the end. Still, I enjoyed it quite a bit and might even replay it some time.

Linktank, do gaming w I've never seen a company squander as much goodwill as Blizzard.

They lost me before this line, but I will never forgive and never forget:

“What you guys don’t own phones?”

BleatingZombie,

It was evident that they had completely lost touch with their player base at that point

ByteOnBikes,

They made me sad with Diablo 3. But they lost me at StarCraft 2.

D3 got better after years of updates. StarCraft 2’s story was hot garbage and they turned a single full game into three smaller games.

Seeing Blizzard fuck over Overwatch fans was not a surprise to me.

SSJMarx,

Blizz was salty about not being able to sue their way into a cut of all of the professional Brood War revenue in Korea, which is why SC2 didn’t launch with LAN support (except when played at an Official Blizzard Event).

It’s a shame 'cause SC2 had some genuinely awesome ideas, like the Allied Commander mode. Probably the best casual online gameplay of any RTS, which frankly every other RTS ever made should copy.

sushibowl,

It’s a shame 'cause SC2 had some genuinely awesome ideas, like the Allied Commander mode. Probably the best casual online gameplay of any RTS, which frankly every other RTS ever made should copy.

Unfortunately every other RTS only tries to copy the sweaty multiplayer 1v1 experience. Like playing guitar hero on expert mode on your mouse and keyboard while also doing strategy at the same time.

Even more unfortunately no one seems to be able to execute even that part half as well as Blizzard did.

archon,

Since we’re talking RTS, do you have time to talk about my shameless plug for beyondallreason.info?

This style of RTS appeals much more to me in recent years. Feels less like you need to perform like a speedrunner.
So much QOL compared to the APM spamfests other RTS can become.

MrPoopbutt,

The story was absolute crap, but the campaign levels were still really fun.

Also, each campaign did feel like a full fledged game from a content perspective. I can give blizzard shit for a lot, but how they handled sc2 (beyond dropping it completely) is low on the list.

DrDickHandler,

SC2’s esport and competitive scene was incredibly successful. We got 14 years of incredible tournaments, content, personalities, streamers, etc… Seems like you are just a casual player that just missed the boat.

Duamerthrax,

“You think you do, but you don’t!”

GrayBackgroundMusic,

unpopular opinion: this phrase is right, sometimes. In that context, at that conference, bad call. But sometimes… people think they want something until they get it, and then they realize they don’t want it.

Duamerthrax, (edited )

How you phrase things is also important. Never having played WoW, they came across as arrogant and out of touch. Something that’s only been reinforced by their further actions. The “Do you guys not have phones?” comment is just the sequel. The issues only be more and more serious since then.

EddoWagt,

Makes me think of that Reddit post where the guy thought he was into shitting and ordered an escort to shit on him, only to realise he was in fact not into shitting

Lemminary, do gaming w I've never seen a company squander as much goodwill as Blizzard.

If you think that’s bad, wait 'till you hear about the working conditions.

xenoclast,

In their defense their just keeping up with the standard in other publicity owned companies. Don’t wanna rock the boat you know.

(This is a joke, please join a union in your field. Union strong motherfuckers!)

BruceTwarzen,

It’s hard to make a good game when you’re too busy trying to rape your coworkers.

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