batmaniam

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batmaniam,

Eh, skill up had a great take on this. The thing is it’s wayyyyy easier to be a small indie developer than it ever was before. Making a game (or any art) still isn’t easy, it never was and never will be, but it’s viable without a giant publisher in a way it just hasn’t been before.

Its the AA titles that are on the most precarious footing, but I bet even those do ok. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy some AAA stuff time to time, I’ve got a stupid amount of hours in overwatch, but I’ve never once paid for a skin because… why would you?

The thing that’s going to suck is losing the studios like Arkane. Their games weren’t perfect but they were freaking cool, and they basically always got the raw end of the deal. Even Prey(2016), their masterpiece, is the product of corporate bullshitiery they had nothing to do with. So we’re probably going to miss studios like that for a while (as they get re-tasked to fortnite/cod support teams) but “indie” stuff has already been stepping up to fill that void, and is less indie all the time.

Look at Dave the Diver. That’s not exactly an indie studio. They had resources. There’s going to be a gap for a bit, but there’s still a demand for good games and art. Those AA breakthroughs are what people want. Again, I continue to spend dumb amounts of time on overwatch, but it’s not where I spend my money. Microsoft hovelled themselves by buying all these studios and not taking the leap with supporting them. Distribution just doesn’t have the value it once did. So if microsoft wants to become CandyCrush, feeding an addiction loop to grab the whales, sure, whatever, but there’s plenty of bread out there for studios doing other stuff.

batmaniam,

FO4 is why I waited and ultimately didn’t buy starfield. I LOVED elderscrolls, and FO:NV is like my alltime favorite. I didn’t hate FO4, there’s some fun to be had, but you can see pretty clearly from it where FO:76 came from. From what I’ve seen and read, I’m not missing anything with starfield.

NMS is tough. They did an amazing job trying to salvage it, but it will always be a game that was never meant to be that big. It’s not bad but at somepoint in the loop you just go “wtf am I doing?”. I give that team all the credit in the world, but that game never belonged where it is.

batmaniam,

Oh I’m well aware lol. The game is a godamn miracle. But thats the thing, Bethesda has been on this trajectory for a good lonnnnnng while. Like the whole “obsidian good bethesda bad” thing isn’t quite right, but what is true is Bethesda has been incredibly strategic about shittifying their games: there’s always just enough there to keep you going “ok… one more”.

Starfield is the first one I just didn’t even bother with.

batmaniam,

oh yeah, I didn’t want to be dismissive of the mtx stuff. It’s absolutely predatory and awful, but I don’t think it fully stands in the way of developing good games.

Which is related to what you’re saying about indies going under even after success. Game development takes time, and you need money to underwrite that time. I just think there’s going to be a split; right now AAA studios are shitifying their games, turning them more into CandyCrush skinner boxes. But the demand for good games hasn’t gone away, there’s just less financial upside than making CandyCrush. My point is, even though it’s less money, there’s still a good amount of money to be had there. Eventually the gaps going to be filled. Microsoft cant fill it because on the balance sheet, things like COD and anything from King are where they should be focused. And it sucks right now because they sucked up a stupid amount of talent and thanos snapped them, but thats not a sustainable practice.

But yes, it’s going to be painful. It’ll suck seeing really nifty indie stuff have to struggle so hard. Like I said I’m also going to miss the polish that comes with AA stuff. I’m going to miss the hell out of Arkane. Their games weren’t perfect, but they had so much soul. They didn’t deserve to have Redfall be their epitaph.

batmaniam,

I think that’s exactly the point though. “We didn’t mark it up to mark it down, the price is just the price”. As a chronic patient gamer part of me hates that (I love finding older classics for like $10) but I don’t mind shelling out for a good game. The biggest expense is my time, and if a bunch of years later the price hasn’t moved it’s probably worth my time.

batmaniam,

I don’t know when the person above you played, but I didn’t notice any of that (got it last week, binged it, 35ish hours). I didn’t notice any missing graphics, and yes there are some spots where you can tell somethings coming, but it doesn’t feel janky, it feels exciting. With game loop being all about upgrades, you can tell there’s a few that aren’t available, but there’s so much meat their absence feels like part of the loop not part of the dev cycle.

The voice acting is all there, the mechanics are all there. I think I had like… One line of repeated dilouge? There’s a good breadth of characters and they’ve got that same slow, well thought out progression they did in Hades I. With only one exception that I can’t mention due to spoilers, you could tell me this a complete game with free DLC inbound.

Bug wise it’s almost entirely free. I had some crashes but I think that was due to a bad HDMI cable repeatedly becoming unstable, and making the game freak out as to what screen it should be on. I haven’t had an issue since I fixed the cable and it’s the only bug I encountered.

I definitely feel like I got my money’s worth.

batmaniam,

I hear you, but I caved lol. You will NOT be disappointed. EA is such a weird choice for this one. It’s where I’d call it well past beta (a true beta, not the marketing betas that we usually see where there’s no time to fix anything). Like it truly is “early access” but we’re so used to that term meaning “somewhere in dev”.

If they’re targeting 2025 release this thing will be incredibly polished by then.

batmaniam,

Thanks for pointing out! I see what you mean now but didn’t even notice.

batmaniam,

The only crash like I said was almost certainly due to a multi-monitor display and one monitor disconnecting and reconnecting. I didn’t even bother submitting a report.

And yeah there’s definitely going to be a few extras. Its wild, like I never play games at launch, specifically because they always ship broken, and here this thing is with the stones to call itself early access when it’s so polished narcissus would gaze at himself in if.

batmaniam,

I’m a chronic “patient gamer” belive me I get it. The underworld awaits you my friend ;)

batmaniam,

That had to be wild to work on. You get brought into the kickoff meeting for what you assume is going to be some soulless marketing gimick, then they start laying it out.

It had a plot, a decent amount of levels. There was a good amount of heart that went into that.

batmaniam,

I played that game entirely to young and somehow finished the main quest line, eventually.

But man, I spent so many hours just murder hobo-ing it because I didn’t really understand the quest based game loop yet. I’d just pick a direction and look for something cool. When I found someone that looked like they’d have cool stuff I’d just kill them and take their stuff. The only time I’d reload is when I got the prophecy warning; I broke like every quest except the main one.

This was compounded by the fact that 1) I was really enjoying just exploring and 2) that game was not particularly hard to destroy the balance on. Even a kid with poor mechanical skills could get wildly OP pretty easily.

12/10 no notes.

batmaniam,

Not quite “find your pocket change” but a solid value: Starcraft + broodwars for $20.

So, soooooooo many hours. And it came in a sweet looking box! Like the kind that people shell out an extra $50 for as a pre-order these days.

I’ll always remember you this way Blizz. You were one of the greats.

batmaniam,

hahha, I’d just go on a spree picking up as much Ordinator armor as I could, sell it, and buy off my bounty.

batmaniam,

never underestimate the strength of boredom and time in a pre-DSL era lol

batmaniam,

yup. I am really excited for this game, but I’ll be giving it a few months at least. It’s not just 76, FO4 was… fine. Still replay it. But if starfield has to much in common with that gameplay loop I’ll probably skip it.

I don’t have a lot of patience for AAA releases with a repetitive loop and nothing but better polish to distinguish them from all of the innovative indie games that are out these days.

That sounds like an overly negative take, and it kind of is, but I am definitely rooting for this thing.

batmaniam,

Setting down the reasonable take: it does look realllllllly good. Meant what I said I’m rooting for it. I’ve just been hurt before lol.

They’ve been saying all the right words, it’ll come down to feel. Bugs don’t, well, bug me, when there’s soul. And I shouldn’t be overly negative on FO4, there’s some excellent characters there. Nick Valentine in particular will always be a favorite, and while the main plot could be a bit better there’s a lot of heartfelt content along the way and in the side missions.

I do think this is the lesson a lot of AAAs are learning the hard way though. When you do what blizz did to overwatch, what bethesda did with 76, the damage is lasting. I would have been a day 0 person for starfield if not for that. Hell, I still haven’t gotten around to cyber punk, even though it seems pretty OK now.

Don’t let me down Todd.

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