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MolochAlter, do games w Persona 4 Remake Is Apparently Happening, As Voice Actor Confirms He's Not Coming Back For It

I stopped caring about the American dub as soon as they recast Chie for P4G anyway, what’s one more change at this point

ampersandrew,
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The cast is playing high schoolers, right? If they’re re-recording audio at all, wouldn’t it be better to get people in their 20s, at the most, rather than in their 40s?

thatKamGuy, do games w EA Cancels Black Panther Game, Closes Cliffhanger Games - IGN

I really wish gamers could unite in a way that they buy out sufficient ownership stakes in these terrible publishers that they force them to treat development studios better, and not push out half-finished slop filled to the brim with predatory monetisation.

EA, Konami, Ubisoft would all be ripe for a renaissance if that were to pass.

SereneSadie,

EA and Ubisoft I can see happening in theory.

Konami is an entirely different beast. The Japanese industry is so ingrained in a different ethos altogether, I just don’t see any public-backed push for change working the way it would with a Western publisher.

Just look at the direction Nintendo is heading. Do we have any actual chance of stopping that train?

haui_lemmy,

Its capitalism. Individuals will not change this. Systemic problems need systemic solutions. First step is outlawing centralization of capital and putting back legislation against large corporations. But good luck doing that in the US.

TrojanRoomCoffeePot,
@TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been hearing it for years, the same as outright boycotts. It’s not that people don’t care, it’s that not enough people care for it to make a difference. For every person pissed about getting burned on a $60+ purchase for a dogshit game, there are 99 more who’ll eat it and move on without caring all that much. You’ve got to improve the content at home, where it counts without worrying about the drek getting turned out by large companies/studios. Invest in indie, or shop around is the best bet IMO.

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thatKamGuy, (edited )

Realistically yes, you are correct.

I’m sure we all (at least those old enough) to remember that Boycott Modern Warfare II Steam group screenshot.

Idealistically, imagine that for every release - instead of giving EA that $80 dollars, 10% of gamers put that money towards a share instead.

So that would work out to be ~$200m in lost upfront sales, and up to $540m in lost recurring spend (microtransactions, battle passes etc.).

That would only be enough for gamers to own 0.5% of the company after the first year, but keeping this up for multiple years could have a downward pressure on EA’s stock price long-term as they miss their financial forecasts - increasing gamer’s buying power on shares.

Within a few years, these “Gamers United” would begin to have sufficient stake to influence board decisions (for the better).

The best part being that, the entire time, EA would continue to pay dividends to them (currently at a rate of ~$3.10 per share, per year), while they still technically own that money - almost like a corporate savings account.

*Edit: out of the three companies I randomly picked, Ubisoft would actually be the softest target - as their market cap is only $1.38b, so gamers would only need to acquire ~$700m of shares to wrestle control of the company!

Korhaka,

I don’t want to own EA. I want EA to fail.

thatKamGuy,

I don’t want the current iteration of EA to succeed; but I do want them to return to form and help* nurture quality releases of Command and Conquer, Mass Effect, Dead Space, Burn Out, Need for Speed, Road Rash, Theme X, Sim City and about a dozen other dormant (or mismanaged) franchises.

Could I get similar experiences from other publishers and developers? Absolutely — but I’d much rather we as gamers have a broader choice in the future of our hobby, rather than continually whittling down our options as quality developers get swallowed up and spat out by the current industrial machine.

MyDarkestTimeline01, do games w EA Cancels Black Panther Game, Closes Cliffhanger Games - IGN

On the one hand I hate hearing about people losing their jobs. I dislike people not being able to have an opportunity to support themselves. On the other hand any and all trouble for EA makes me happy. I long for the day they have to sell off their studios and their CEO has to try and not be remembered as the guy that killed the golden goose for investor capitol.

It’s time that investors stop looking at video games as a get rich quick opportunity. And trying to turn it into the new cubicle farm. Sandfall and a lot of other smaller devs are proving that a small team of generalists are able to do better work than these huge and bloated monstrosities that EA and its kind have become.

Also they pretty much show with this and several other cancellations that they cannot fathom a business model that doesn’t rely on predator monetization.

HuskerNation,

Damn I was looking forward to this, Marc Bernardin was a writer for it, in fact I believe the lead writer. Love his stuff, found him by following Kevin Smith

Thassodar,

Yeah and the trailer they put out, if this is the same game, looked like a mostly complete game. And it looked good!

Katana314,

I’d really rather gamers focused their energy into showing support for the developer groups making cool projects, than specifically deriding any works made under publishers they dislike.

Once every few years, EA and Ubisoft produce something that’s really cool; and much as we’d rather the publishers were replaced with better ones, at the least we can be happy that developers got to put out one or two good games through them.

Quetzalcutlass,

I’d really rather gamers focused their energy into showing support for the developer groups making cool projects, than specifically deriding any works made under publishers they dislike.

The thing about EA is they have a long history of acquiring the developer groups you’re talking about, then mismanaging them into the ground before dissolving them entirely. I know just as many if not more only exist because of EA and their funding, but it’s hard not to feel bitter when many of my favorite studios no longer exist due to their incompetence and greed.

DeathsEmbrace,

You underestimate just how much they treat this like a business and take advantage of passionate people. Nobody does game dev for a career without a passion.

MyDarkestTimeline01,

Devs, yes. Publishers, not so much.

DeathsEmbrace,

Nobody talks about the corporate shills called publishers. They just steal the credit of the devs and money.

endeavor, do games w Warhammer 40,000 Maker Games Workshop Is Doing So Well It’s Giving $27 Million to Its Staff

That is nice and i dont even like wh40k

mctoasterson, do games w Warhammer 40,000 Maker Games Workshop Is Doing So Well It’s Giving $27 Million to Its Staff

I dunno if there is a subculture of printing the models at home. I would think resin printers would have more than enough resolution to make good miniatures. Is that frowned upon? There is no reason to buy overpriced licensed shit.

domdanial,

Oh there is absolutely a group that prints their own, and before that there were re-molds that were made based on the real ones.

From what I understand, (friends play) they aren’t allowed in “official” sponsored matches, so if you really want to compete big you have to have real armies. But also they have printed one of those $800 models because most people don’t have the cash to throw at stuff like that.

So I’m sure there are some diehard people that only think official models should be used but it doesn’t seem common.

UniversalBasicJustice,

Can confirm, buddy with a resin printer is slowly hooking me up with an Adeptus Mechanicus army and he prints shit for his friends too. Recasts are likely in-between price-wise but pretty solid quality.

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  • AnUnusualRelic,
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    Heretic!

    Etterra, do games w Warhammer 40,000 Maker Games Workshop Is Doing So Well It’s Giving $27 Million to Its Staff

    While that’s great, it also speaks volumes when taken in context with their customer-hostile business practices.

    dubyakay,

    Is it customer hostile? I thought it was just licencing-hostile, fucking over others with their IPS left and right.

    I don’t know much about them.

    DragonTypeWyvern,

    In the sense that you’re going to overpay for editions and minis that they’re constantly updating to squeeze more money out of you while having a genuinely good but expensive paint catalogue ruined by paint pots designed to waste paint, yes.

    In the sense that it’s pure entertainment and no one and nothing is making you buy them despite all that, no.

    Now, if we want to talk about how they’re essentially monetizing fascist rhetoric and the “satire” died decades ago that’s a whole new ballgame.

    13igTyme,

    I’d like to know more about that last point.

    LeninsOvaries,

    In 40k, everyone is fascist. The Imperium worships a corpse who is gonna wake up from life support and save humanity any day now guys. Their creed is “suffer not the xenos, mutant, nor heretic to live”.

    Their main enemies are Chaos: nightmare demons and cultists worshipping evil gods spawned from the Imperium’s own fascism.

    The biggest threats on the horizon are the Tyranids, a ravenous swarm of bugs who want to eat the galaxy, and Necrons, a feudal empire who sold their souls for immortality while destroying the galaxy.

    There are also the Drukhari, murder rape pirates who had such a big cocaine orgy they tore a hole in the galaxy, and Orks, fungal football hooligans whose only purpose in life is to get into a good fight.

    The only “good guys” are the Eldar of the Craftworlds, who are arrogant communists with a birth rate issue, and the Tau: a Marxist-Leninist Federation of Planets who are secretly all being mind controlled.

    The setting is supposed to be a satire of fascist ideology, but at some point Games Workshop started believing the pro-Imperium propaganda they spend all day writing.

    13igTyme,

    Some of that I already knew, but why do you say games workshop is believing their own propaganda? Aren’t they just telling a story and creating a universe? What are they, the company, doing that is fascist?

    DragonTypeWyvern, (edited )

    That’s a lot more effort to explain than I’m willing to do for a Lemmy post but basically they’ve not only confirmed the Big Magic Strong Man does at least try to work in humanity’s favor and was right about most everything, but there’s a lot of “the Imperium might be fucked but it’s the only hope” going on in general.

    All of the Imperium’s propaganda is justified, all their little fascist warrior cults are all that stands between life and Chaos, the Inquisitor Puritans are right because the Radicals always go Chaos etc etc etc.

    criss_cross,

    I thought some of that was them trying to wash away the original fascist roots of OG 40K. Haven’t they been trying to slowly retool and rebrand the imperium more as the “good guys” so they can sell more merch?

    DragonTypeWyvern,

    Original 40k was Rogue Trader, written largely by British anarchists, and the actual motivations of the Heresy Era figures like the Primarchs and Emperor were left vague, so you could figure out for yourself they were genocidal megalomaniacs.

    Rebranding the outright fascists as the unironic good guys is exactly why it’s now fascist propaganda.

    DragonTypeWyvern,

    There’s also the Votann now but they have the same problem the Eldar and Tau do, there aren’t enough of them.

    Maalus,

    They used to give out their IP to shitty mobile games for pennies. Then they went after actual creators who made something amazing and gated them behind a subscription service.

    glitchdx, do games w Warhammer 40,000 Maker Games Workshop Is Doing So Well It’s Giving $27 Million to Its Staff

    On the one hand, fuck GW, their plastic is too damn expensive for what it is.

    On the other hand, respect for paying out profits to the employees. Mad respect, 100%. Wish more companies did that.

    steal_your_face,
    @steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

    I’m not a 40k player but nowadays you can just 3d print all the models.

    herrvogel,

    It’s the painting and detailing that can be quite expensive and time consuming. You obviously don’t have to paint your minis, but that’s the entire point for a lot of people.

    DogWater,

    Trench crusade official units are 3d printed! You buy the files

    Walican132,

    Lots of stuff to bitch about with GW but prices aren’t one of them. Exhibit A is the article you’re responding to, they are responsible with their profits and put them where they should. Exhibit B is they could minimize costs and outsource the entire plastic operation but they still make all models in England. Exhibit C is paying for Art is always morally the correct thing to do, even when mass produced. Finally Exhibit D, fuck GW for promoting incredibly short lifecycles for their games and pushing an almost weekly FOMO event on products that leads a lot more to these profits than just model sales.

    arudesalad, do games w Warhammer 40,000 Maker Games Workshop Is Doing So Well It’s Giving $27 Million to Its Staff

    I don’t play board games like warhammer but if I did I would happily pay the premium I see on those figurines if it means this happens.

    who, do games w Warhammer 40,000 Maker Games Workshop Is Doing So Well It’s Giving $27 Million to Its Staff

    The money will be paid on an equal basis to each member of staff.

    <3

    Cruxifux, do games w Warhammer 40,000 Maker Games Workshop Is Doing So Well It’s Giving $27 Million to Its Staff
    @Cruxifux@feddit.nl avatar

    That’s a crazy good bonus. Most I ever received was 2 grand.

    JoMiran,
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    I did the math. If headcount didn’t change in the last 12 months then the bonus each employee will receive will be ~$9152.54.

    Valencia,

    The article disagrees, but idk what staffing numbers are right

    JoMiran,
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    The stat I found was 2950 employees world wide as of June 2024.

    https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/886803e6-1782-44c6-8866-34ea1ff7be58.png

    Cruxifux,
    @Cruxifux@feddit.nl avatar

    It said in the article that it’s 18 grand American per employee I thought

    JoMiran,
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    I used the numbers from their financial disclosure. I have no idea where the article got its information.

    Cruxifux,
    @Cruxifux@feddit.nl avatar

    I got my information from the article so who knows lol

    BorisBoreUs,
    @BorisBoreUs@lemmy.world avatar

    10k is just fine. 18k is better, but no one complains about 10k :)

    JoMiran,
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

    For certain. I hope nobody thinks I’m dismissing this awesome move. I just wanted to know how much each individual got.

    MegaUltraChicken, do games w Warhammer 40,000 Maker Games Workshop Is Doing So Well It’s Giving $27 Million to Its Staff

    As a board gamer who generally shops at the same places as 40k players: this does not surprise me in the least. Those goddamn armies are pricey.

    Kolanaki,
    @Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

    The first I came to even know about the game was checking out a brand new game store with a more D&D-centric name and them currently hosting a game night for 40k so there were like 5 big tables with these gnarly modeled maps with hills and buildings while people were rolling dice, then pulling out tape measures and moving their units.

    Shit looked like Risk but cooler. Then I noticed how expensive it would be to play and just never got into it lol

    siv9939,

    There are cheaper miniature games out there. Gaslands is Mad Max/ Death Race inspired and you use standard toy cars to play. There’s also Turnip28 that’s pretty much post apocalyptic Napoleonic Wars. There are cheap Napoleon era miniatures people modify for it, but I’ve also seen some goofier builds, like using toys and actual vegetables. I will say I haven’t really played either, but they are the two miniature games I often consider getting into.

    damdy,

    It’s definitely pricey, a couple of reasons:

    I believe the kits are still entirely made in the UK rather than Asia like so many things.

    The quality and designs are arguably the best in the world with techniques far more advanced than most rivals can compete with.

    This doesn’t mean they don’t get greedy and stick on a huge profit, I believe they heavily rely on staff who love the hobby to run their stores too and pay very poorly.

    Walican132,

    It is like risk but cooler! And honestly you don’t need a 2k point meta army to start with. For the price of two or three $60 video games (guess I have to preface that now) you can have enough models for you and a friend to have an absolute blast.

    p03locke,
    @p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I don’t think it has anything to do with their physical media, and everything to do with their successful video games sales over the past few years.

    doleo, do gaming w GeoGuessr Pulls Out of Esports World Cup in Saudi Arabia After Fan and Creator Backlash: 'When You Tell Us We’ve Got It Wrong, We Take It Seriously' - IGN

    It’s a nice start, I hope they do USA next.

    Empricorn, do gaming w GeoGuessr Pulls Out of Esports World Cup in Saudi Arabia After Fan and Creator Backlash: 'When You Tell Us We’ve Got It Wrong, We Take It Seriously' - IGN

    While I think this is a good thing, now there’s only Dota 2, Valorant, Apex Legends, League of Legends, Call of Duty: Black Ops 6, Rainbow Six Siege, Rennsport, StarCraft II, Street Fighter 6, Counter Strike 2, Rocket League, Tekken 8, PUBG Battlegrounds, Call of Duty Warzone, Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Siege X, Overwatch 2, PUBG Mobile, Rennsport, Honor of Kings, Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves, MLBB, Free Fire, EA Sports FC 25, Teamfight Tactics, Crossfire, and Chess with grandmasters left…

    JillyB,

    It has an outsized impact by bringing awareness to this issue. It also could embolden other communities to take a stand against Saudi sportswashing.

    Empricorn,

    Agreed. It’s almost certainly a net loss for the game and its awareness.

    algorithmae, do gaming w As Gamers Express Concern About Borderlands 4 Potentially Costing $80, Gearbox Chief Randy Pitchford Says: ‘If You’re a Real Fan, You’ll Find a Way to Make It Happen’

    Good job Nintendo, you opened the $80 floodgate

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