I feel stupid but I have only ever bought devices that are open or able to be jailbroken. I don’t get how sometimes when the jail walled garden bdsm relationship punishes it’s people, they react with a gasp, as if they thought their locked hardware that isn’t open to their owner that they “have” isn’t made for exactly that purpose?
It’s like yeah Janet. It’s why you brought it. So you can play only their games and watch their movies and enjoy things that they decide the price and allowance of. You selected that? You chose to hire this device? Well I split mine open to use it for what it can do. No drm has ever succeeded. It’s a grift protected by laziness and - as always, lawyers and lobbyists who have yet to grow up
I got a feeling in my gut that the switch 2 is going to do pretty well and I kind of hate that. Or if it does fail to meet expectations it’ll likely be cause the tariffs and not because Nintendo’s greed.
Oh look. Another Nintendo console that I’m NOT going to buy.
My last one was a used Wii that came hacked and I could load anything into it, and I’m perfectly happy if that’s the last Nintendo console I’ll ever buy.
Hard to say, with the world economy being so volatile right now. I can say that as someone who has owned every one of Nintendo’s consoles and handhelds (even the Virtual Boy!), I have no intention of buying a Switch 2. Nintendo’s done plenty of shady stuff in the past, but everything about the Switch 2 smacks of arrogance and greed on a level beyond what they’ve done before.
At least Sony had some justification. A new and expensive cell architecture. It was ground breaking for its time but cost too much.
Nintendo is giving us something the steam deck and other pc handhelds can do, and trying to charge $80 for games that will almost never go on sale. I can buy old steam titles for less than $10, show me an old Nintendo title that can ever sell for that amount. It’s just not a good enough proposition just to have access to a handful of $80 Nintendo titles.
Yeah, I could stomach the price of the console, but no way am I ever going to pay those outrageous prices that never go down for first party games, and without those there’s no point in getting a Switch 2 over a Steam Deck. I’ll have a lot of Nintendo games to catch up on once decent Switch 2 emulators are a thing.
It’s so weird, I was actually kinda hyped seeing they improved almost everything on the original Switch. Hardware-wise it seems good. But the software after really just became this turn-off? The Mario Kart gimmick of riding between tracks looks dull, the 24 players is cool but offset with the wider tracks it seems less impactful, and then all the prices…
I’m holding off I think. Maybe when there’s better games out it becomes a better deal. Or when Nintendo does an OLED refresh (if we don’t have a Steam Deck 2 by then that is).
To name a few things, they improved the processing power, storage, screen, attachment method of the joycons, dock, placement of charging cable (located both top and bottom), in-game chat.
I’m not going to buy one cause the pricepoint and the fact that “physical copies” of games are going to be empty cases with keys, which might be able to be lent or resold until Nintendo decides against it or kills the system for verifying them, but they did make a number of improvements that would have opened up my wallet once again if they hadn’t let greed win the day.
Screen size, resolution, the APU, storage size, controller connector, buttons, the lot. They did state that they worked on the stick drift issue and found ways to mitigate it, but they weren’t specific unfortunately.
Ugh I have thought about getting a Switch for approx 6 months but decided to wait for Switch 2. I feel it is worth l as I don’t own the previous version, still all the complaints make me want to wait as well as I get that Nintendo strategy is not correct.
$10 is the “go fuck yourself” price for things that would otherwise be free.
You’ve already spent $450 on the console, $90 on a game, and $50 for the full online subscription. What’s $10 more dollars for the welcome demo? Go fuck yourself, pay the plumber man.
Yeah, I expected them to ask the full $60 for it, which would be completely unreasonable, but at least I understand why they wouldn’t give it away then. But 10? They could easily eat that, they just don’t want to.
Either way, I can’t imagine anyone paying for a “game” that’s nothing more than an instruction booklet. If it were free, maybe someone would open it while Mario Kart is downloading.
I think the runaway success of astrobot for the PS5 has got execs watering at the mouth. If It’s as good as astrobot then I don’t think 10bucks is all that crazy either.
Astrobot was actually a game. It was more like any other game that taught you how to play the game with the implemented features. This could have been any other game doing the same thing but it came directly from Sony.
Looking at the “Welcome Tour gameplay” video, this isn’t even close to what Astrobot did. It is a Hub in which you get told what those features are with minigames for that specific feature.
My point is: If the only point is to advertise the functionality of the console, charging any sort of money for it is not productive for what it should be achieving. You want people to learn how to use your console and then charge money for it will do the exact opposite. People won’t buy it because there is no benefit to actually buying it.
Any other game would teach you how to play it anyway.
If It’s as good as astrobot then I don’t think 10bucks is all that crazy either.
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If the only point is to advertise the functionality of the console, charging any sort of money for it is not productive for what it should be achieving
Astrobot is actually a fully-fledged standalone game, in which the PS5’s features are seamlessly baked into the core of the gameplay, rather than the core of the game being just the PS5 functionalities. The only other game I could think of and one you could compare it to more accurately is Tearaway (back when it was a PS Vita exclusive), because that was also a game that made use of every core functionality the console for that game had to offer.
The Welcome Tour is literally just PS Vita’s Welcome Park but with a few more mini games, the latter of which is free.
You’re thinking iwata, but that was a brief blip on Nintendo history. The OG CEO was a straight up suit. The man had no interest in videogames, only business. Which is why they practically had a monopoly over their hardware in the 80s and 90s.
The OG CEO is from the 1800s so yeah. And yes I’m thinking of Iwata. And look at what was produced during his tenure. That’s the Nintendo everyone is nostalgic about nowadays. 1989 Nintendo was a corporation throwing spaghetti at the wall, 2000’s Nintendo was streamlining the end gamer experience, 2020’s Nintendo is looking for an easy paycheck.
I was on the fence about Switch 2, leaning toward not getting one. This just solidified that position. No way I’m paying for something that charges for the instruction manual.
How is this stupid? Call it greedy or anti-consumer, but in the end it will increase Nintendo’s profits so it’s far from stupid from the company’s perspective. People buy consoles no matter how bad they are treated. Maybe you should call consumers stupid instead?
The problem is that a company can only push their greed so far before they start losing people. Up until now, most of the Nintendo hate came from their anti-emulation crusade. Now, it seems like everyone and their brother is talking about just how absurd the entirety of this launch is.
On places like reddit, Lenny, etc where there is a vocal minority complaining about this. The vast majority of consumers don’t come on here nor do they keep themselves informed. They’ll grumble at the price a bit, then buy it anyway.
I’m not talking about Lemmy. I’m talking about literally every community I’ve looked. Aside from fanboys being fanboys, the reaction has been nothing but outrage.
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