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doingthestuff, (edited ) do games w Borderlands 4 Patch Due Out Today, PC Performance 'Our Top Priority,' Gearbox Says

I’ll check it out when it’s under $5. At this rate, maybe next year’s winter sale? I have a rig that is reportedly already able to play it but I don’t pay full price, ever. Even games I really want, and this ain’t it.

ampersandrew, do games w Borderlands 4 Patch Due Out Today, PC Performance 'Our Top Priority,' Gearbox Says
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not just stutters but also just general poor performance in the open world, such that I get about half the frame rate I would expect to see on high settings without frame gen. I wouldn’t be surprised if the optimizations here are like what happened with Assassin’s Creed: Unity where there was a bunch of detail that got sanded off of the world map in places that a player should never actually see it anyway.

unwillingsomnambulist, do games w Borderlands 4 Patch Due Out Today, PC Performance 'Our Top Priority,' Gearbox Says

…but I thought performance was fine, why would something fine be their top priority? Pitchford couldn’t possibly have been talking out of his ass, could he?

newthrowaway20, do games w Borderlands 4 Patch Due Out Today, PC Performance 'Our Top Priority,' Gearbox Says

But I already started making my own game engine!

Muffi, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

Soooo, is Borderlands 4 cracked yet?

denialmedia, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

Dude is such a tool.

Katana314, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

Countdown to him getting fired in 3…2…3…4…8…49…

Because companies ultimately seem to love leaders that are toxic these days.

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

I could be wrong, but doesn’t he own the company?

SkunkWorkz,

He wasn’t the only founder and Embracer bought them in 2021. Later TakeTwo acquired the studio when Embracer had to restructure. They operate under 2k now so he can most surely be fired.

Also probably why he is even more of a cocky cunt nowadays. He already cashed out.

Mortoc,

I worked for Take-Two. The bankers that run that company absolutely see the world the way Randy does. Fuck’em.

CaptainBlinky, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

I wasn’t too keen on that $70 basic version price tag in the first place, so thanks Randy. Can’t wait for it to be $39.99

Zanathos,

Why stop there? Pretty sure BL3 was free at some point recently.

tio_bira, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

Considering i didn’t bother to buy anything borderlands related since Borderlands 2, it will keep preety muchbthe same for me

YiddishMcSquidish,

Same, got 1&2 on a humble bundle. I remember one running great, and 2 bearable on a 1gb netbook att. Cell shaded games shouldn’t be this resource intensive!

tio_bira,

I still have my physical PC copy for the first Borderlands, it sounds almost a whole different world when i read 512mb vram recommended on the specs…

melsaskca, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

Guys who wear bowties are not smart, but desperately need people to think they are.

abcdqfr,

What french fuckin year is it where ANYONE feels the NEED to wear a bowtie?! You can just wear your boxers as a neckerchief if you like…

OmegaMan,

Bowties are fine for formal (social) occasions like weddings and parties. Wearing them around every day is weird. Wearing them to work is (generally) weird.

Committing to wearing them everywhere and STILL buying pre-tied ones and not learning how to tie them yourself all while being a mega douche is cringe af.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yeah, learn to tie them if you’re going to make it part of your personality.

NeilBru,
@NeilBru@lemmy.world avatar

Finally, someone agrees with me on the fucking bow tie thing.

Love the tie. Wear the tie. Talk about the tie. If you can’t tie the tie but you do the first 3, I can’t respect you.

DacoTaco,
@DacoTaco@lemmy.world avatar

I present to you bill nye as a counter argument

itsprobablyfine,

Honestly, I think he might actually fall into the category of cares more about appearing smart than being smart. Not to say he’s dumb, but I do get the sense the reputation is very important to him

treesapx,

Celebrities with distinct looks almost by definition have to be exceptions to this discussion. Wearing a giant clock necklace to work would absolutely be weird unless it were Flavor Flav.

lime,
@lime@feddit.nu avatar

i think it’s more about him having gotten used to it when he played a character on a children’s programme. he also has the face for it, which randall does not.

Fyrnyx, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash
@Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org avatar

He's looking like the Anti-Gaben Newell in that picture there.

ModernRisk, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

Never bought any of the Borderlands games and probably never will.

FarmTaco,

weird flex but okay

ModernRisk,

That’s okay, I love being weird.

SCmSTR,

1 was a flawed revolution and had great dlc. 2 was … A very clear sign of stagnation but has one of the greatest badguys in multiplayer gaming.

There were a few interesting moments and side stories and unique characters after that, but for example, the transitory moment of seeing Ashley Burke come alive as Tiny Tina was once in a lifetime chance that you had to live through in that year/era. Going back now, it’s not really that special since everything is derivative and we live in the future.

ModernRisk,

Glad you enjoyed the games, I suppose. But I never really cared for the Borderlands games and reading how Pitchford is behaving makes me not want to even try the games.

SCmSTR,

I like first person shooters, the original counter strike is one of my roots. I also have many fond memories of Diablo 2 and LAN parties. Borderlands 1 was a taste of what could be and was VERY exciting, as it was trying to combine two things I loved in games and really wanted (and still do). Unfortunately, Pitchford has been driving it into the ground ever since BL1, and wasting his position at the helm. Godawful behavior aside, it’s time for him to move aside for somebody with more talent for game development or something.

If you don’t mind me asking, why didn’t you ever care for the borderlands games? Just for frame of perspective, I want/like to understand what people like and don’t like and why.

Reygle, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash
@Reygle@lemmy.world avatar

A “Pitchford” - the meme of Randall Pitchford always, ALWAYS being an ass. This isn’t anything new, just “fresh” again.

NutinButNet, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

I accepted and just didn’t buy it to begin with.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Was going to say… Who is out there buying games way outside their machines’ specs? Seems pretty straightforward.

I do get a little annoyed at the folks angry at BL4 using a higher end engine. Like, it does look a lot better than previous iterations. That engine upgrade wasn’t for nothing.

There are a ton of looter shooters floating around that aren’t using the Unreal 5 engine. Just play one of those instead.

inclementimmigrant, (edited )

This game goes into the twenties on a freaking 4070 at 1440 on high settings and doesn’t even get 60 at medium settings

Now let’s take a look at the “recommended specs” Randy put out there

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 / AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT / Intel Arc B580

Sorry but when in the world is that even remotely acceptable that you consider last Gen was outside machine specs when the developers said sure two generations ago is perfectly fine, which btw, holy crap it’s not.

EncryptKeeper,

There’s a difference between a game being way outside of your specs because it’s graphically very advanced and your hardware is old, and a game just being unoptimized slop that expects its users to deal with by throwing higher specs at a fixable problem.

I have a brand new 5070ti that can play all kinds of UE5 games with much better graphics than BL4 at 4k resolution with ray tracing at a decent frame rate without relying on frame gen. And I’m in the top few percentiles here.

CaptainBlinky,

I have a 3090 in a 7800x3d box with 64 gb ram and I had to drop from 7680x2160 to 3840x1080 to get decent framerates. I get better performance in Star Citizen. After a few CTD’s I just went ahead and got a refund.

Killer,

UE5 can run fine on older hardware, but most devs either aren’t given the time to properly optimize or don’t give a fuck about it and would rather rely on upscaling and frame gen tech.

Screen_Shatter,

After the borderlands 3 trainwreck it seems weird that people are apparently buying BL4

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It’s hard to consider an 81 on OpenCritic to be a trainwreck. People tend to buy games that review well, especially when it’s a co-op shooter with basically no competition.

Screen_Shatter,

Damn I had to look that up cause it seemed unbelievable. I am shocked it reviewed that well. It just seemed so awful to me.

Am I so out of touch?? No, the children are.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, that game’s great. The writing’s not good, especially for the villains, but people like that game because it’s good.

Cethin,

You aren’t out of touch. Even the worst games don’t get that poor of a review. When you job depends on being on their side, it turns out you can’t voice an honest opinion.

Nima,
@Nima@leminal.space avatar

bl3 is a fine game. its just critics of it are so very vocal that nobody feels like saying they like it.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

From what I hear from people actually able to play the game, it’s better than 3.

Something like:

2 > 4 > 1 > 3 > Pre-Sequel

CaptainBlinky,

I honestly don’t know what this “trainwreck” talk is. BL3 was passable. I didn’t like the antagonists, but the game played fine if purples dropped way too much and the new guns weren’t great. People make it seem like it was the Worst Game Ever and I don’t get it. The pre-sequel was hot garbage, but 3 was fine.

Nima,
@Nima@leminal.space avatar

there’s no nuance in anything anymore. you can’t just say “oh this isn’t really for me, honestly.”

you have to write 18 paragraphs about the fall of the video game industry because of this one game and how its hot trash, kills newborns while they sleep, etc.

Greddan, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

They’re using a poorly made graphics engine and got scammed into implementing malware into their game.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In,

For a AAA game Unreal 5 seems like a reasonable choice for an engine because you have access to Epic Games devs.

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