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MojoMcJojo, (edited ) do gaming w Star Citizen Pushes Through the $700 Million Raised Mark and No, There Still Isn’t a Release Date

Everyone: It’s a scam, game runs like crap, so many bugs, etc. etc., all valid points.

People who like it anyway: vrrroooommm weeeeeee, pew pew pew, vsksshhh, crash. Reload. Vrrroooooommm…

Who cares, go have your own fun, leave us to ours 🙄

Edit: down voted for wanting to have my own fun? Fine, I’ll go play with my toy spaceship with out you.

ThePerfectLink,

If you squint, the Star Citizen logo kinda looks like the symbol for The People’s Temple

Asafum,

You’re not going to have any luck with the general population. They’ve been conditioned to hate star citizen by all these lazy asshole “journalists” that can’t be bothered to look into what they’re writing about past the big dollar sign…

What really pisses me off though is we get the whole “stupid AAA publishers rushed out XYZ game to meet a quarterly financial report!” with every single game that comes out. “Why didn’t they just give it time to cook! Release when it’s ready!

Now we have star citizen almost entirely backed by users with no date pressure as there is no publishing company forcing their hand and they’re building what will be the most amazing space MMO we’re likely to ever see because they have the time and the resources, but instead of awe we get this trash “ItS nOt ReAdY yEt!? MiLlIoNs Of DoLlArS!” article over and over and over again…

If they did actually follow the project they’d know that SQ42 is likely to be released next year and star citizen is already talking about release 1.0…

Bahh bahh bahh goes the media sheep.

ThePerfectLink,

Alright, have fun, just remember; don’t drink the Kool-aid!

MojoMcJojo,

o7

stanleytweedle, do gaming w Star Citizen Pushes Through the $700 Million Raised Mark and No, There Still Isn’t a Release Date

@JonsJava

Hey can you just go ahead ban me from any subs you mod? Don’t want to accidentally get into chains where I get sanitized mid conversation because of your Pollyanna version of civility and obvious grudge against me.

TheTetrapod, do gaming w Star Citizen Pushes Through the $700 Million Raised Mark and No, There Still Isn’t a Release Date

Reminder that the SC episode of Down the Rabbit Hole came out 7 years ago.

ZombieMantis,
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bjoern_tantau, do gaming w Star Citizen Pushes Through the $700 Million Raised Mark and No, There Still Isn’t a Release Date
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I mean, are people playing and somewhat satisfied? If yes, who gives a fuck about any arbitrary release date?

Eheran,

Why not just release it then if nobody cares anyway?

bjoern_tantau,
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TachyonTele,

It’s not meh, it’s “we’ve almost raised a BILLION dollars by not releasing this game. Oh by the way, there’s no release date yet.”

kakes,

…and?

Not like people are paying for the release date. And they did release a product, just not under “version 1.0”.

Seems like people are just mad that a game they don’t like made money.

Manos,

Nobody’s mad that didn’t throw money in the pit. It’s just a funny story that never seems to end. Every year they don’t have a finished product, the joke gets funnier.

kakes,

Idk I’ve seen a lot of people getting genuinely upset over this stuff.

Mkengine,

I don’t have a horse in this race, but it’s the perfect counterpart to companies like EA Games where unfinished games come out because developers had to meet an arbitrary deadline. Star Citizen is right at the other end of the spectrum and you see what happens when there are no deadlines and the product is never finished. I would love to play it, but my backlog is so big that I can afford to be a patient gamer. I have about 35 years until I retire and if version 1.0 is out by then I’ll be happy to take another look.

kakes,

On the bright side though, they are consistently updating the game. I don’t play, but several of my friends play it all the time, and to them it definitely seems to be worth what they paid.

radicalautonomy,

consistently updating the game

People are still falling through elevators and delivery missions are still bugged to hell four years after I quit for those reasons, but hey, they have beards now! 😂

Asafum,

What you mentioned is actually a comment I just made, but in favor of it. It’s just like konami and kojima, they gave him the boot because he’s a perfectionist and would take forever (but make an amazing game at the end). I see this as the same kind of thing. It’s taking forever but I have absolutely no doubt it will come soon™

Server meshing is the last major tech absolutely necessary for star citizen to run, for you to not be falling through floors, for box missions to work, etc. it’s all server issues caused by the fact that there’s only one server running everything for 100 people. Once server meshing is completed (early next year, a partial implementation is coming this summer) they can then move on to the already discussed “1.0 release.”

It’s actually coming much sooner than these ignorant lazy fools who write these articles would have you think. SQ42 is literally in the final polishing phases and during their big citizencon event this year they’re more than likely to announce its release date.

Zorque,

"A lot" is an interesting descriptor, especially when comparing loud easily defined groups with quieter more subtle groups.

Its the difference between those animals that puff themselves out to five times their normal size and those that prefer not to be seen at all. Are there a significant portion of the first as compared to the second, just because you see them more blatantly?

kakes,

Yep, “I’ve seen a lot” does in fact refer to the portion I’ve seen, which is a lot.

DarkThoughts,

People are mad about empty promises and vaporware that seemingly only exists to make CR even fatter.

kakes,

I have friends that play this game basically all day every day. Doesn’t seem like vaporware to me.

Empty promises maybe, but it would be disingenuous to deny it’s perfectly playable in its current state.

TachyonTele,

It’s not vaporware, I agree.
It is however, a money scam.

DarkThoughts,

And I have "played" it multiple times for a short while over the years myself. Anyone saying it is perfectly playable in its current state is a liar and part of the cult. It's a glorified half broken tech demo.

And yes, it is vaporware, because there's so much feature creep that it will never see the light of day. They constantly completely re-write systems, often times systems that have been already re-written a couple of times. A lot of newer systems don't fit in well with previous systems or other aspects that are now very much outdated, which means they have to redo them too (like various ships). It's a constant redoing of things that have been done already. All while the major tech needed for what they claim to aim at is still not really there. And all of this comes on top of them adding completely new features instead of focusing on fixing & finishing what's already there.

WolfLink,

Those billion dollars come from people buying the game and playing it in its current state.

TachyonTele, (edited )

Lol no it doesn’t. It comes from insanely high priced jpegs of ships, and sometimes the rare in game ship.

perfect example 13 days ago on reddit

The RSI Galaxy is a great ship (currently ~$300) and the loaner is an Anvil Carrack which is (currently $600). The Carrack is one of the biggest and best ships for all around activity, but no pilot guns.
Origin 890 Jump ($900) for luxury and is the biggest in-game ship you can buy.
Hammerhead ($700) is the largest combat/gun ship currently, with the Polaris coming out soon.
Reclaimer ($400) is the largest industrial salvage ship.

Absolutely can’t wait until my Galaxy is flyable, still hoping for it to be here by the end of the year

WolfLink,

With the purchase of any ship (the cheapest ones being $45) you get to play the game and fly the ship(s) you bought in-game.

TLDR it’s a $45 game with microtransactions

TachyonTele,

Completely ignoring it, are we? Cool cool

TigrisMorte,

They are not finished with it yet and the folks backing it are playing so they see the work and are having fun.

WolfLink,

You can go buy it right now, where do you think the 700m has come from?

Eheran,

From alpha and beta players and of those mostly for stuff in the game, not the game itself. What does that have to do with the topic?

DarkThoughts,

A tiny amount is, and most aren't. So that should answer your last question.

NegativeLookBehind, do gaming w Star Citizen Pushes Through the $700 Million Raised Mark and No, There Still Isn’t a Release Date
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Is it still a clunky, GPU melting mess?

Iheartcheese,
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I tried it like a year ago? Lasted about 2 weeks before I refunded. It was a stuttery mess for me. They have to reset the servers because they go to crap constantly. Several times a day I would run into some game breaking bug that, when I googled it, I would find people talking about how its been that way for years and then there would be the 15 step 20 minute work around. I remember one in particular…I decided to try crime. Did some smuggling to this (honestly really cool) outlaw base in an asteroid. Once I got there I couldn’t sell. People said its just like that and keep trying. Gave up after a few days of trying to sell there. Any and all complaints about anything wrong with the game are met with frothing screams of the world alpha and thats how things are in gaming when a game is this ‘early in development’

Its a shame because beneath under the Everest size mountain of bugs and poorly optimized crap is my dream space game.

NOT_RICK,
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thats how things are in gaming when a game is this ‘early in development’

Lol

AnUnusualRelic,
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It has the potential to be an amazing game. But it probably never will be.

I fire it up once or twice per year. It looks great. Beyond that… it’s kind of fun to explore a bit, but that’s pretty much it. Not sure if anything will ever become of it.

northendtrooper,

If you have a chance jump into the free fly today before it ends tomorrow. 3.23 has been a giant QoL patch and added Vulcan with upscaling.

robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/…/6865743

DarkThoughts,

It's Vulkan. And from the user reports I've seen it doesn't really seem to affect the still garbage performance.

Asafum,

Well I can say for sure 100% vulkan will not get you any improvements at the moment especially as multi threading isn’t enabled yet, but with dx11 I’ve been hitting 60fps+ when I never did before this last patch. It’s been very smooth as far as my PC performance. Server performance will suck until hopefully later this year after server meshing is enabled and the initial jank is worked out.

CheeseNoodle,

Last I saw it the game was pretty functional in some aspects but we’re now at a point where some of the older assets look 2 generations out of date so the game is accumulating a growing amount of artistic debt where the old stuff just doesn’t fit with the newer stuff anymore.

SzethFriendOfNimi, do games w [IGN - Review in progress] Killer Klowns from Outer Space: The Game

That movie was bonkers… and then they made a game inspired by it? That’s…. Weird

Beetschnapps,

The movie is bonkers by definition! Kinda the whole point. Hopefully the game can make the same!

realbadat,

If they did it the other way around, and you’re a clown from outer space, that would be fun.

Davel23, do games w [IGN - Review in progress] Killer Klowns from Outer Space: The Game

If they don't license the theme song I'm boycotting.

jeffw, do games w [IGN - Review in progress] Killer Klowns from Outer Space: The Game

Did we really need another movie-inspired asymmetrical horror game?

Carighan,
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I mean considering the state of DbD, there can’t be something getting hype and knocking it off the throne fast enough IMO.

TropicalDingdong, do gaming w Prolific Mortal Kombat 1 Modder Accuses Warner Bros. of ‘Threatening to Destroy My YouTube Channel’

This highlights the importance of anonymity and things like federated spaces on the modern web.

The tendency for people to want to take credit for their work is also at issue here, but the old Internet has a stronger, “I am my username”, emphasis on anonymity and relatively little credit taking for creativity.

I think the focus on personalities, and on single platforms gives companies leverage over as a users and creators of the Internet.I think if we were less concerned about ownership and taking credit, and more concerned about distribution and access, we can make it basically impossible for companies to gain leverage over ideas.

I think also the modern, reactionary view of copyright law is deeply problematic and counter productive. I don’t think the online left quite realizes they can’t can’t have it both ways. Like I get the instinct towards protectionism of small creators, but I think that modern concepts of copyright are fundamentally flawed at both a fundamental legal.level, but also at a conceptual level for what they are ‘pre-supposed’ to protect.

wizardbeard,
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While I’m not particularly against what you’re saying, I think you overlook other issues with the older internet’s culture of not wanting/taking credit.

One only has to look at things like the “cheezeburger” corporation that made millions off of marketing lolcat memes that they had no hand in creating or even much hand in proliferating to see that people not taking credit isn’t a golden solution to prevent misuse and abuse by companies out to make a quick buck.

AFC1886VCC, do games w Ubisoft Cancels The Division Heartland

It’s okay, they’re probably still working on a hundred million other mediocre games. Truly a quantity over quality publisher.

Shame they wouldn’t cancel their own existence.

Zorque,

I'm sure they can churn out a bunch more half-finished board game and game show adaptations.

Blackmist,

I had to laugh when they described Far Cry 6 as AAAA.

It’s a buggy load of generic shite. I’ve never had to reboot my PS5 before because bullets stopped making sounds…

wirelesswire, do games w Ubisoft Cancels The Division Heartland

Quite a few people in The Division community loved the Survival mode from Division 1, so I figured would have had a good audience. I'm a Division fan, but didn't care for Survival or the Beta of Heartland, so can't say I'm heartbroken over this.

garretble,
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I like The Division 2 a lot and have spent almost zero time in the PVP zones in my couple hundred hours.

I hope the pivot is just over to The Division 3.

wirelesswire,

Ubisoft has stated in the article they will be redeployed to XDefiant and Rainbow Six.

garretble,
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, lame.

srwax,

Same. I love the division for the coop PvE element. I’m not bummed about the. Still looking forward to the division 3, assuming it doesn’t get cancelled as well

Katana314,

What, you don’t like entering a fight only to lose all your HP in an instant to someone that spent 2000 hours grinding critical hit chance stats?

reddig33, do games w Ubisoft Cancels The Division Heartland

Strange. This looks like a decent evolution of the previous game, with a built-in audience.

scrubbles,
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Ubisoft doesn’t care about a great game that’s only modestly profitable. It is too afraid of that. Shareholders demand mediocre games that a lot of people will buy.

randomaside, do games w Final Fantasy Maker Square Enix Will Aggressively Pursue a Multiplatform Strategy After Profits Tumble
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Just a thought, remakes like this tend to appeal to people in the PC crowd. We’ve all moved to PC for various different reasons. Better games, better prices, better hardware? Emulation and software preservation is the name of the game for a lot of people. Those people are working everyday to make things like the steam deck the dream game console they always wanted. That’s the kind of person who will go back and replay Final Fantasy 7 four or five times.

Mango, do games w Final Fantasy Maker Square Enix Will Aggressively Pursue a Multiplatform Strategy After Profits Tumble

You hear that PCMR? They’re not coming to us because it’s the obvious and right things to do. They’re using us as a fallback! Do you wanna be the side piece? Buy games from real developers who aren’t licking publisher boots!

So, uhhh… Buy Stardew Valley like 4 more times I guess.

Rakonat,

I just look for people in my friends list that don’t have it yet and curse them with owning a copy, knowing I won’t hear from them for like 2-4 weeks.

toxicbubble, do games w Final Fantasy Maker Square Enix Will Aggressively Pursue a Multiplatform Strategy After Profits Tumble

Squenix uses a dart board to decide which games to port to which consoles

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