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Katana314, do games w Larian CEO Responds to Divinity Gen AI Backlash: 'We Are Neither Releasing a Game With Any AI Components, Nor Are We Looking at Trimming Down Teams to Replace Them With AI'

I’ve had an idea of making a visual novel with gen AI, but I’d want to attach “Placeholder: AI Artwork” in a visible location for each sprite. And I only even consider that because I’m not exactly a known game dev and don’t have ready access to artists.

Larian should likely expect if they’re taking shortcuts in their position, they’d get backlash. I can at least recognize that they’re trying to be moderate about it.

Jankatarch,

Also you don’t have the infamous AAA deadlines so you are not guaranteed to include them in final outcome anyways due to “an oopse.”

Deceptichum, do games w Larian CEO Responds to Divinity Gen AI Backlash: 'We Are Neither Releasing a Game With Any AI Components, Nor Are We Looking at Trimming Down Teams to Replace Them With AI'
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

I only care if the game is good. What tools are used to make it is irrelevant to my enjoyment.

Jankatarch, do games w Larian CEO Responds to Divinity Gen AI Backlash: 'We Are Neither Releasing a Game With Any AI Components, Nor Are We Looking at Trimming Down Teams to Replace Them With AI'

Yeah I am sure higher ups of this one studio alone will use it responsibly because they are “not like the others” and definetely will resist making a bad decision despite deadlines.

Cybersteel, do games w Larian CEO Responds to Divinity Gen AI Backlash: 'We Are Neither Releasing a Game With Any AI Components, Nor Are We Looking at Trimming Down Teams to Replace Them With AI'
@Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

Games dead on arrival clanker.

ToiletFlushShowerScream, do games w Larian CEO Responds to Divinity Gen AI Backlash: 'We Are Neither Releasing a Game With Any AI Components, Nor Are We Looking at Trimming Down Teams to Replace Them With AI'

Welp, there goes all of my enthusiasm for the next game. Will have to check out other actual game developers and artists instead of whatever Larian and their genAI prompt monkeys have become.

brucethemoose, do games w Larian CEO Responds to Divinity Gen AI Backlash: 'We Are Neither Releasing a Game With Any AI Components, Nor Are We Looking at Trimming Down Teams to Replace Them With AI'

Yeah, the outrage is overblown.

This doesn’t mean they’re enforcing a CoPilot quota or vibe coding the game or shipping slop; it could be simple autocompletion, or (say) a component that makes the mocap pipeline easier.

Don’t let Tech Bros poison dumb tools that could help out devs like Larian.


…Now, if they ship slop into the final game or announce an “OpenAI partnership,” that’s a different story.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

…Now, if they ship slop into the final game

At a certain level, it is going to be a chore to determine who is or is not slopping up with AI media. Not every asset comes out with six fingers and a half-melted face.

I can see legitimate frustration with an industry that seems reliant on increasingly generic and interchangeable assets. AI just becomes the next iteration of this problem. You’ve expanded the warehouse of prefab images, but you’re still stuck with end products that are uncannily similar to everything else on the market.

And that’s before you get to the IP implications of farming all your content out to a third party that doesn’t seem to care where its base library is populated from.

brucethemoose,

At a certain level, it is going to be a chore to determine who is or is not slopping up with AI media. Not every asset comes out with six fingers and a half-melted face.

Image/video diffusion is a tiny subset of genAI. I’d bet nothing purely autogenerated makes it into a game.

I can see legitimate frustration with an industry that seems reliant on increasingly generic and interchangeable assets. AI just becomes the next iteration of this problem. You’ve expanded the warehouse of prefab images, but you’re still stuck with end products that are uncannily similar to everything else on the market.

See above. And in many spaces, there are a sea of models to choose from, and an easy ability to tune them to whatever style you want.

And that’s before you get to the IP implications of farming all your content out to a third party that doesn’t seem to care where its base library is populated from.

Thier tools can be totally in house, disconnected from the outside web, if they wish. They might just be a part of the pipeline on their graphics workstations.


Keep a distinction between “some machine learning in tedious parts of our workflows” and “a partnership with Big Tech APIs.” Those are totally different things.

It sounds like Larian is talking about the former, and I’m not worried about any loss of creativity from that.

digdilem,

At a certain level, it is going to be a chore to determine who is or is not slopping up with AI media. Not every asset comes out with six fingers and a half-melted face.

That’s a good point. I think a lot of people are dismissing AI content because there’s this fallacy and desire to believe it’s all “slop”. It’s willfully ignorant to wave it all away like that. Sure, we’ve all seen the stupid stuff, and it’s really annoying, but we absorb the good stuff without even knowing it. Anyone claiming they can reliably spot AI generated images is fooling themselves even at this early stage.

I’d like to know when something is real, especially real art and even pictures of nature, but I don’t think I can.

CallMeAnAI, do games w Larian CEO Responds to Divinity Gen AI Backlash: 'We Are Neither Releasing a Game With Any AI Components, Nor Are We Looking at Trimming Down Teams to Replace Them With AI'

Gamers will and do bitch about anything and everything. I couldn’t care less if they use AI if the product is good.

minorkeys, do games w Larian CEO Responds to Divinity Gen AI Backlash: 'We Are Neither Releasing a Game With Any AI Components, Nor Are We Looking at Trimming Down Teams to Replace Them With AI'

We’re not looking to, but if it happens, it happens.

Ashtear, do games w Larian CEO Responds to Divinity Gen AI Backlash: 'We Are Neither Releasing a Game With Any AI Components, Nor Are We Looking at Trimming Down Teams to Replace Them With AI'

Considering we’ve already got the one former Larian employee speaking out against this, it’ll be interesting to see how many more show up off the record (or maybe on the record anonymously). I’m sure there was an internal battle over it.

There aren’t many (possibly none) with more goodwill banked among enthusiast gamers than Vincke, so I feel like we’re about to see just how far a popular figure can step into this particular puddle without coming out soaked.

flamiera, do games w Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations - IGN

They were looking to have another Postal III on their hands anyways. Looking at the profile of the studio on Steam, they haven't really made any solid games. What made RWS think 'yeah we trust these guys' with that kind of portfolio?

squaresinger,

Trust a random studio with some long-dead IP in the hopes of making a little cash? Not so crazy imho. Nothing to lose.

MoreZombies,

Last Postal game was released in 2022. “Long-dead”?

MrScottyTay,

I think because RWS were kind of similar. Before Postal they just made a few educational games like Sesame Street etc. They probably felt they were giving a studio that was in a similar position to them the same kind of chance they got.

GreenKnight23, do games w Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations - IGN

you gotta be fuckin kidding…

_cryptagion, do games w Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations - IGN
@_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus avatar

everything is AI generated these days, especially the artists whose art you don’t like

purple_mimosa,
@purple_mimosa@lemmy.world avatar

AI is baked into every creator software now. All your favorite artists, musicians, writers all use AI more or less. Not using it brings you a disadvantage, whether you like it or not.

IronKrill,
@IronKrill@lemmy.ca avatar

Thank you for so bravely speaking on behalf of all artists.

p03locke, do games w Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations - IGN
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Postal was a 90s edgelord game. It doesn’t really fit in this era. Even if they managed to make it, I doubt it would have sold well.

Harvey656,
@Harvey656@lemmy.world avatar

No way. Postal 4 came out 3 or 4 years ago and was okay, and postal: brain damaged is great, it came out out in 2022. They can still work and be quite fun.

Vupware,

The protagonist gleefully kills MAGA fucks in P:BD

Harvey656,
@Harvey656@lemmy.world avatar

Its a wonderful boomershooter. Not exactly like the other games, but the same heart is there.

AmidFuror, do games w Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations - IGN

I heard many studios also use IDEs, which make programming more efficient, thus cutting jobs.

Jankatarch,

Despite popular belief, “cutting corners machine 3000” provides that “boost in efficiency” by cutting corners. And it cuts them wrong 51% of the time.

very_well_lost,

Using an IDE to write code is like using a pie tin to help you make a pie.

Using generative AI is like going to the local bakery, breaking their window, and stealing the pie.

dukemirage,

Except the cake will be good. It‘s more like making the entire cake out of fondant.

CIA_chatbot,

And the pie is actually the mop, because gen AI hallucinated that it was a pie

seathru, do games w Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations - IGN
@seathru@quokk.au avatar

It’s always drama with these guys (RWS). That’s been their marketing strategy from day 1.

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