I hate using this analogy because it showcases how much of a glutton I am but: a full release game should feel like a full meal. It can leave you wanting more but it should satisfy first. DLC is meant to be dessert. Something nice and extra after the fact. Wilds felt like an appetizer. Like it was prepping you for something more.
My friend who's a big MH fan got us into Rise, which was a lot of fun (and my first MH game), and while the gameplay of Wilds feels nice, it really is apparent they intended to dripfeed content for however long they intended to support it. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction.
Base World and base Rise both had quite weak endgames as well. Rise was literally unfinished at launch. It only really takes off as a complete experience once the paid expansion comes out (not title updates).
Oddly enough world base game felt fairly long. Took me quite a while to get to the high rank and even longer to get to the final boss.
Honestly lack of automatic traversal and bunch of busywork made it a lot more easier to get distracted and explore. Lack of artian weapons made it more rewarding to farm weapons made from different monsters.
Maybe the game just got too streamlined with Rise and wilds. Focus shifted too much towards making fights more of a spectacle and add in bunch of unnecessary narrative.
Hardly surprising that the sales have been soft since launch considering the shocking user reviews. The game is pretty good, but when it barely runs on most users machines people are going to either keep waiting for it to improve or write it off forever. All the die-hard fans who are even interested in the endgame content already have the game.
Even outside of the performance problems, it’s become clear the pattern is to release the base game which is ok, then eventually release an expansion that makes it feel like a complete experience. A lot of people that started with world or rise are just going to hold off for the expansion
Fools stupid people into thinking theyre being generous. Same tactic gas companies keep doing in California to raise gas prices. Price goes up almost $2 per gallon, and then back down only $1.
At least with video games we don’t have to buy them to live.
Love how fast they all dial back after seeing the reaction on nintendo’s 80$ approach. But seriously EA I don’t care for those extra 10 bucks upfronf if your games are still the mtx and gambling infested shit they currently are.
The base price increase would still raise the total with DLC. Not including the DLC is still worth talking about, since there are plenty of ways to enjoy a game without it.
I don’t understand looking at Sims 4 as an example. The game has had progressive additions for a long time; it’s basically a live service game, and now comes free.
It’s rare for anyone to feel they want all the DLC - usually it would just be a few things they want and have fun with.
I actually do want all the DLC in a game like that. The fact it’s prohibitively expensive just means I’ve never actually bought any and stick to the Sims 3, a game where I do have all the expansions.
True, but iirc sims 4 also released in a more cut-down state than sims 3 - in fact it was one of the pioneers of “paradoxification” of games and victim of other bullshit that EA was trying to pull, just like with simcity.
Anyway, my point was that with EA the up-front price they charge is not awfully relevant, because you have lootboxes, p2w, mtx, gambling, dlc of varying dollar value etc. so you might end up paying a crapload, live service or not.
well DLC has always cost money on top of the base game so i’m not sure what your point is.
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you’re ignoring that if you buy all DLCs you get much more content compared to old $60 games. If you want to look at this fairly you need to come up with some way of quantifying the content involved which is not easy to do.
I do agree that some DLCs are clearly designed as money grabs (like most premium/gold launch editions). But i disagree with lumping all DLC into that category, especially bigger expansions that release a year or more later.
The ones by big publishers? No, they’re feature complete at best for the sake of the game loop but sell the rest in overpriced DLCs. The base game is the hook, that’s why Epic keeps giving some away for free or are sold at a heavy discount on Steam. You only need to scroll down to notice.
agree to disagree i guess. i don’t find base games to be any less feature complete than they ever were. they fact that DLCs are sold on top of the base game does not change that.
So… I noticed over the past few weeks that apparently Somebody had been running “guerilla marketing” and Wuchang was apparently the most important game ever released?
And now it apparently became the center of another culture war?
… What the flip? It looked cool but it very much looked likea “good first try” and the Iron Pineapple video mostly aligns with that.
Clair Obscur immediately had rave reviews everywhere, especially with users, and that was also UE5. UE5 isn’t inherently low performance, but inexperienced devs can make any engine run inefficiently.
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